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*Ultimate Survivor 2010* League 2 Thread (1 Viewer)

RenegadeGM

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League 2 - August 9 - 9:00 PM Eastern - League 2 Is Full

League Format - Best-ball / All-play

Selection Format - Draft

Starting Lineup - 1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 flex (QB, RB, WR, TE), 1 PK, 1 TD

QB, RB, WR, TE Scoring

Passing TD - 4 points

Rushing / Receiving TD - 6 points

Passing Yard - 0.05 points

Rushing / Receiving Yard - 0.1 points

Reception - 1 point

Turnover - (-1) point

2-point Conversion (passing / rushing / receiving) - 2 points

PK Scoring

PAT - 1 point

FG (1 to 30 yards) - 3 points

FG (31+ yards) - 0.1 points per yard (example - 45-yard FG would be 4.5 points)

TD Scoring

Sack - 1 point

INT - 2 points

Fumble Recovery - 2 points

TD - 6 points

0 points allowed - 5 points

1 to 5 points allowed - 2 points

6 to 10 points allowed - 1 point

Participants

1. Jene Bramel

2. Jeff Haseley

3. Captain Quinoa

4. RenegadeGM

5. yellowdog

6. buck56

7. Deranged Hermit

8. JaxBill

9. RJS113

10. ConstruxBoy

11. rzrback77

12. Tat

 
League 2 Draft Order (with roll results)

1. Tat - 94, 98

2. yellowdog - 94, 48

3. Deranged Hermit - 81

4. ConstruxBoy - 77

5. rzrback77 - 72

6. Jeff Haseley - 71

7. JaxBill - 67

8. RenegadeGM - 60

9. Jene Bramel - 57

10. RJS113 - 47, 42

11. Captain Quinoa - 47, 29

12. buck56 - 1

 
Go figure...another draft, another 5-6 spot. This is also my first non-IDP draft in awhile. Jene you'd be impressed :-)

 
Looking forward to this on Monday. I was actually hoping for a more middle of the road pick so I can better control any positional runs, but whatever. :confused:

 
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hopefully the link will be posted soon.

Currently entertaining offers for the #1 pick as well

 
ConstruxBoy said:
Hey rzrback77, if you get a gift from me in the first round, I expect a thank you. :mellow:
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ConstruxBoyKate's Daddy*Group: Members.Joined: 14-April 03From: Edwards Rules!Member No.: 512Follows Closely:I do think Trent Edwards might be a bit of a reach at that spot .... but to each their own. And, in all seriousness, without talking to Construx ... I KNOW who he is taking in the 1st .....
 
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Jeff Tefertiller said:
ConstruxBoy said:
Hey rzrback77, if you get a gift from me in the first round, I expect a thank you. :thumbup:
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ConstruxBoyKate's Daddy*Group: Members.Joined: 14-April 03From: Edwards Rules!Member No.: 512Follows Closely:I do think Trent Edwards might be a bit of a reach at that spot .... but to each their own. And, in all seriousness, without talking to Construx ... I KNOW who he is taking in the 1st .....
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LOL, yeah I think Edwards should be there for me in the 24th round. But is it really that crazy in a Superflex league to skip Peterson for a QB?
 
ConstruxBoy said:
Jeff Tefertiller said:
ConstruxBoy said:
Hey rzrback77, if you get a gift from me in the first round, I expect a thank you. :shrug:
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ConstruxBoyKate's Daddy*Group: Members.Joined: 14-April 03From: Edwards Rules!Member No.: 512Follows Closely:I do think Trent Edwards might be a bit of a reach at that spot .... but to each their own. And, in all seriousness, without talking to Construx ... I KNOW who he is taking in the 1st .....
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LOL, yeah I think Edwards should be there for me in the 24th round. But is it really that crazy in a Superflex league to skip Peterson for a QB?
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Brady was the number one pick in the format last year. Of course all TD were 6 pts too, they fixed that this year.
 
Deranged Hermit said:
ConstruxBoy said:
Jeff Tefertiller said:
ConstruxBoy said:
Hey rzrback77, if you get a gift from me in the first round, I expect a thank you. :shrug:
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ConstruxBoyKate's Daddy*Group: Members.Joined: 14-April 03From: Edwards Rules!Member No.: 512Follows Closely:I do think Trent Edwards might be a bit of a reach at that spot .... but to each their own. And, in all seriousness, without talking to Construx ... I KNOW who he is taking in the 1st .....
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LOL, yeah I think Edwards should be there for me in the 24th round. But is it really that crazy in a Superflex league to skip Peterson for a QB?
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Brady was the number one pick in the format last year. Of course all TD were 6 pts too, they fixed that this year.
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Yeah, saw it was 4 pts now
 
Getting excited now, my phone just sent out a reminder about the draft. Really wondering who goes 1 and 2, as that will set the table for which position I look at at number 3.

 
any idea on how long this draft will take tonight?

Can't wait til I see what I have to choose from on my 2nd and 3rd round picks.

 
ConstruxBoy said:
Jeff Tefertiller said:
ConstruxBoy said:
Hey rzrback77, if you get a gift from me in the first round, I expect a thank you. :shrug:
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ConstruxBoyKate's Daddy*Group: Members.Joined: 14-April 03From: Edwards Rules!Member No.: 512Follows Closely:I do think Trent Edwards might be a bit of a reach at that spot .... but to each their own. And, in all seriousness, without talking to Construx ... I KNOW who he is taking in the 1st .....
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LOL, yeah I think Edwards should be there for me in the 24th round. But is it really that crazy in a Superflex league to skip Peterson for a QB?
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I hope that if you in all your wisdom give me a gift that I have sense enough to accept it.
 
Was already looking forward to this, and now even more so after reading the League 1 thread. Breaking things down afterwards and seeing the evaluations tomorrow will be fun.

 
RenegadeGM said:
Was already looking forward to this, and now even more so after reading the League 1 thread. Breaking things down afterwards and seeing the evaluations tomorrow will be fun.
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I really wish I got a mid-round pick in this draft as I think you can really control the runs there. You REALLY don't want to caught behind a run in this kind of draft.
 
Without even looking at the names, I bet at least two of the guys in slots 8-10 advance. When I keep mocking this, they look like excellent slots for this draft.

 
A few thoughts on this.

1. Tons of RB depth in this format. If you draft 7-12 and the folks like the top5 RBs are gone and AJ as well, don't panic. I would clean the top 6-7 WRs out and sharpen yourself a nice blade to slice thru folks at the WR position. Very few WRs are sure things and you will be shocked at the RBs on the board in the 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th rounds, like walking thru the candy store. Plus you don't want to give folks with Chris Johnson already a gift like 2 top6 WRs because you are chasing something that doesn't really exist. Be strong.

2. Try to stay ahead of the runs. Sometimes that is easier said than done but realize most of these folks have read over DD's perfect draft artcile, lapped up the FBG ADP postings, have combed thru Chase, Jason, and Jeff' on player spotlights, debates, and face offs. You might not see things go as they predict so be ready to grab the guys you really want a tad earlier perhaps. I am not a big believer in doing a lot of research, finding what I think are gems, and then allowing them to hit other rosters because I was too stubborn to take them a few picks ahead of where everyone else says or thinks they should go.

3. QBs are about 15-16 deep IMO, don't panic if you cannot secure Brees, Rodgers, and Romo. However don't think that Garrard, Leinart and Moore will lead you to the promised land.

Don't draft Big Ben or VJax for very obvious reasons. Watch your bye weeks, those players that have weeks 4 and 5 byes have to be a little discounted because if you load up on them you could be in big trouble.

I am not a fan of taking a bunch of WRs late and seeing what sticks. If you look up in the 7th round and you have 1 WR, you better have the mother of all RBs, QBs, and TEs otherwise you are gonna be in Barney Rubble Trouble.

QBs: Value in the 6th-10th rounds IMO

RBs: Loads of value in the 3rd-7th rounds

WRs: Best ones are in the 2nd-5th rounds...then I do like some of them in the double digit rounds mostly those that have done it before or are WR3 types on high octane offenses.

TE: Value in the middle rounds...DD hit on a couple in his article and I would agree however I always reach a bit for them.

Def/ST: Take 3 if you are rostering 24 teams IMHO

PK: 2 is OK but if there is nothing of value at any other position why not grab 3 of these too? In this format where you are playing everyone every week you will see the PK as the difference between 148 and posting 145 and going 8-3 vs 7-4 or 6-5 that week.

Good Luck everyone,

MOP

 
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Ministry of Pain said:
A few thoughts on this.

1. Tons of RB depth in this format. If you draft 7-12 and the folks like the top5 RBs are gone and AJ as well, don't panic. I would clean the top 6-7 WRs out and sharpen yourself a nice blade to slice thru folks at the WR position. Very few WRs are sure things and you will be shocked at the RBs on the board in the 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th rounds, like walking thru the candy store. Plus you don't want to give folks with Chris Johnson already a gift like 2 top6 WRs because you are chasing something that doesn't really exist. Be strong.

2. Try to stay ahead of the runs. Sometimes that is easier said than done but realize most of these folks have read over DD's perfect draft artcile, lapped up the FBG ADP postings, have combed thru Chase, Jason, and Jeff' on player spotlights, debates, and face offs. You might not see things go as they predict so be ready to grab the guys you really want a tad earlier perhaps. I am not a big believer in doing a lot of research, finding what I think are gems, and then allowing them to hit other rosters because I was too stubborn to take them a few picks ahead of where everyone else says or thinks they should go.

3. QBs are about 15-16 deep IMO, don't panic if you cannot secure Brees, Rodgers, and Romo. However don't think that Garrard, Leinart and Moore will lead you to the promised land.

Don't draft Big Ben or VJax for very obvious reasons. Watch your bye weeks, those players that have weeks 4 and 5 byes have to be a little discounted because if you load up on them you could be in big trouble.

I am not a fan of taking a bunch of WRs late and seeing what sticks. If you look up in the 7th round and you have 1 WR, you better have the mother of all RBs, QBs, and TEs otherwise you are gonna be in Barney Rubble Trouble.

QBs: Value in the 6th-10th rounds IMO

RBs: Loads of value in the 3rd-7th rounds

WRs: Best ones are in the 2nd-5th rounds...then I do like some of them in the double digit rounds mostly those that have done it before or are WR3 types on high octane offenses.

TE: Value in the middle rounds...DD hit on a couple in his article and I would agree however I always reach a bit for them.

Def/ST: Take 3 if you are rostering 24 teams IMHO

PK: 2 is OK but if there is nothing of value at any other position why not grab 3 of these too? In this format where you are playing everyone every week you will see the PK as the difference between 148 and posting 145 and going 8-3 vs 7-4 or 6-5 that week.

Good Luck everyone,

MOP
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Deranged Hermit said:
These start 2 QB leagues always lead to huge QB runs early. A few got caught behind the 8 ball.
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I see that we can start a QB as a flex, but once the top 12-15 were gone, I'd rathe rplay that flex with a WR or RB, especially since it's a PPR and passing TD's are only 4pts.Guess we'll see
 
Tat said:
Deranged Hermit said:
These start 2 QB leagues always lead to huge QB runs early. A few got caught behind the 8 ball.
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I see that we can start a QB as a flex, but once the top 12-15 were gone, I'd rathe rplay that flex with a WR or RB, especially since it's a PPR and passing TD's are only 4pts.Guess we'll see
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I wasn't talking about you. You at least have Brady. At least 3 teams are forked at QB.
 
Deranged Hermit said:
Tat said:
Deranged Hermit said:
These start 2 QB leagues always lead to huge QB runs early. A few got caught behind the 8 ball.
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I see that we can start a QB as a flex, but once the top 12-15 were gone, I'd rathe rplay that flex with a WR or RB, especially since it's a PPR and passing TD's are only 4pts.Guess we'll see
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I wasn't talking about you. You at least have Brady. At least 3 teams are forked at QB.
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That would be me. Once there was pretty much nobody left, I couldn't pass on value at other positions. Pretty much my only choice at that point.
 
Tony Romo- 2.03

Carson Palmer- 3.10

Matt Moore- 10.03

Sam Bradford- 12.03

Byron Leftwich- 20.03

I was planning on going QB with my 1st two picks, but when Andre Johnson fell to me at 1.10, I couldn't pass him up. I'm high on Palmer this year, and love him as a flex. I hated taking a player with a week 4 bye that early, but Romo was by far my top ranked QB on the board. I like loading up on QBs in best ball, not to mention QB-flex.

Cedric Benson- 6.03

Reggie Bush- 7.10

Michael Bush- 8.03

Darren McFadden- 9.10

Steve Slaton- 13.10

Bernard Scott- 14.03

A solid group here, but nothing special. I was hoping Matthews would fall to me at 3.10, but when he was gone I decided to wait at RB. I took McFadden over some guys I had ranked above him, but I wanted to pair him up with Bush. I think both backs will have some good games and some bad games, and this way I have the whole backfield covered. I'm not big on Slaton, and would of liked to add another decent RB. When I saw Cadillac go 13.05 in league 1, I tried waiting to pick him at 12.03, but just missed out on him. Not a bad group overall.

Andre Johnson- 1.10

Brandon Marshall- 4.03

Steve Smith (NYG)- 5.10

Mike Williams- 14.03

Chaz Schillens- 16.03

Demaryius Thomas- 19.10

Three studs, and three young guys with upside. Obviously I'd like some more depth, but I'm very happy with my WRs overall. I'm very high on Mike Williams. Marshall has a week 5 bye, so I'll need one of my backups to step up that week.

Owen Daniels- 11.10

Kevin Boss- 18.03

Shawn Nelson- 23.10

If Daniels is healthy week 1, I'll have a really solid group here.

Jay Feely- 21.10

Connor Barth- 24.03

Giants- 17.10

Buccaneers- 22.03

I'm never going to overpay for a kicker or defense. Just took the best guys available in the last few rounds.

I haven't really looked at any of the other teams yet, but I have to believe that I'm one of the stronger teams. My biggest weakness is probably at RB, but I think I'm good enough there to compete. With it being a QB flex league, I wanted to make sure I was strong at QB, and I think I accomplished that. I lucked out with my top WRs falling where they did.

I should definately be among the top 4.

 
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My roster:

Brees, Drew NOS QB -10

Manning, Eli NYG QB -8

Obviously I wanted to get two stud QBs and I think I accomplished that. Brees is Brees and Eli has a very nice 5 week passing schedule. We can start 2 QBs and I have no worries that will happen. IMO, that's a big advantage.

Barber, Marion DAL RB -4

Dwyer, Jonathan PIT RB- 5

Mendenhall, Rashard PIT RB-5

Moreno, Knowshon DEN RB (Q)-9

Wells, Chris ARI RB (P)-6

If Moreno is ok, I love this group, especially since I didn't take a RB until rd 4. I'll easily find two starters a week here. Wells, Mendenhall, and Moreno were steals in rounds 4, 5 and 7.

Britt, Kenny TEN WR (P)-9

Bryant, Antonio CIN WR (Q) -6

Houshmandzadeh, T.J. SEA WR (P)-5

Jennings, Greg GBP WR -10

Manningham, Mario NYG WR-8

McCluster, Dexter KCC WR -4

Tate, Golden SEA WR -5

Walter, Kevin HOU WR -7

Ward, Hines PIT WR (P)-5

There are concerns about this group. I think Jennings and Ward will be fine, but finding a 3rd starter will be interesting. I have several decent options, so the only week I'm REALLY sweating about is week 5.

Lewis, Marcedes JAC TE -9

Miller, Heath PIT TE -5

Watson, Ben CLE TE -8

TE was the only position I couldn't control the runs on. I was able to start runs at QB, DEF, K, but constantly got caught behind the 8-ball here. Still, Miller is very solid, but has that dreaded week 5 bye.

Kaeding, Nate SDC PK (P)-10

Reed, Jeff PIT PK-5

Two starters and two very solid kickers. Can't complain here.

Panthers, Carolina CAR Def-6

Steelers, Pittsburgh PIT Def - 5

Vikings, Minnesota MIN Def -4

Love this group. I should get pile up points every week here.

*edit* The only regret I have is not taking Crabtree over Beanie at 4.10. I had three RBs on my short list and one WR. I jumped the gun and took the RB. After that I found myself chasing WR constantly. Happy who I got, but that was the difference between a very good team and a borderline lock to get to round two.

 
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Drafting in the #1 spot had me worried, especially since I was sure that most of the good QB's would be gone when it came time for my #2 and #3 picks.

The more I thought about it, the more I was sure that I was going to be left with Cutler and no one really behind him that would garner my next pick. So, I made up my mind to go ahead and let everyone else grab the 3rd and 4th tier QB's for their flex while I grabbed the best WR, RB or TE available.

QB's:

2.12 Brady, Tom - loved getting him here, as Cutler was taken right before Brady. Hoping to ride him for the first 5 weeks.

12.12 Edwards, Trent - the only true starter left after the QB blitz ended

22.12 Anderson, Derek - wouldn't it be funny if he started of Leinart?

RB's:

1.01 Johnson, Chris - had to take him @ 1.01

4.12 Greene, Shonn - could be a nice pickup in a PPR

10.12 Hardesty, Montario - hoping to see him come back from his camp injury

13.01 Hightower, Tim - could be a TD vulture, also great value if Beanie stays banged up

16.12 Lynch, Marshawn - good talent, bad head. Maybe he'll be traded?

21.01 Norwood, Jerious

23.01 Dixon, Anthony

3.01 Austin, Miles - Happy to have a top 5 WR and RB in this format.

6.12 Floyd, Malcom - will be Rivers' top option outside of Gates.

8.12 Royal, Eddie - Hoping he returns back to his ways from 2 years ago

9.01 Aromashodu, Devin - lots of talk about him already being a very good #2

11.01 Edwards, Braylon - this league has a .5 scoring for dropped passes

14.12 Williams, Roy - he's playing with a chip on his shoulder for sure this year

17.01 Tate, Brandon - good buzz surrounding him

18.12 Shipley, Jordan - slot receiver could be a nice 3rd down guy with the ability to break a long one.

24.12 Ginn Jr., Ted

TE's:

5.01 Davis, Vernon SFO

20.12 Gresham, Jermaine

D:

7.01 Jets, New York NYJ - early pick, but I got the best D in the league

K's:

15.01 Gostkowski, Stephen

19.01 Carpenter, Dan

 
Quarterback

11.06 Hasselbeck, Matt SEA (5)

1.06 Manning, Peyton IND (7)

4.07 Smith, Alex SFO (9)

I like my QBs. Alex Smith is the one to look out for. If he has a big day in any of the first five games, that will give me a big boost. Same goes for Hasselbeck. Smith had six multiple TD games in 12 starts last year. His surrounding talent could really elevate his game. Manning is Manning. If he has a couple 3-TD games, it'll help out a lot.

Running Back

12.07 Brown, Donald IND RB (7)

3.06 Mathews, Ryan SDC RB (10)

9.06 Sproles, Darren SDC RB (10)

14.07 Washington, Leon SEA RB (5)

2.07 Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB (6)

I like San Diego's schedule in the first five games, so I loaded up on their RBs. I think Mathews will be a big story in the first few weeks of the year and Sproles is someone people are forgetting about. He'll get some carries too and be a big part of the receiving game. I would be more excited about Donald Brown if this league lasted all year, but I'll take him in the 12th round. I'm hoping Leon Washington can make a few plays and be someone who can put up decent production. DeAngelo Williams joins Ryan Mathews as the two guys I need to be big producers every week. They both have favorable schedules against the run and are capable of providing big points as the leaders of my running game. In best ball, you want to have quality all around and I think I achieved that with this group.

Wide Receivers

19.06 Benn, Arrelious TBB WR (4)

17.06 Berrian, Bernard MIN WR (4)

7.06 Gaffney, Jabar DEN WR (9)

8.07 Hester, Devin CHI WR (8)

5.06 Moss, Santana WAS WR (9)

24.07 Sanders, Emmanuel PIT WR (5)

10.07 Thomas, Mike JAC WR (9)

15.06 Washington, Nate TEN WR (9)

7 out of 8 WRs on my team are starters. That says a lot in a best ball league. I don't have any elite WRs, but the season hasn't begun yet. I need receptions and I need TDs from my WRs. This may wind up being my Achilles heel, but I like the overall quality of this group. I think people will be pleased with Santana Moss, Devin Hester and Jabar Gaffney this year. Denver has been decimated with injuries early on and the latest injuries to Demaryius Thomas and Eric Decker sealed the deal on my interest in Gaffney. Moss is the unquestionable WR1 in Washington right now, even though I think Devin Thomas will make a run later in the year. He should be able to get good production with McNabb.

Tight End

23.06 Fasano, Anthony MIA TE (5)

6.07 Miller, Zach OAK TE (10)

18.07 Scaife, Bo TEN TE (9)

I'm a big fan of Zach Miller this year, but he needs to catch some TDs in addition to getting receptions. If he can be a big producer in the first five weeks of the year, it will really help my chances. The others are there to possibly score a TD and provide some points. This is all about Zach "Miller" time.

Kicker

16.07 Bironas, Rob TEN PK (9)

20.07 Longwell, Ryan MIN (4)

22.07 Nugent, Mike CIN PK (6)

Went with three kickers, because any given week at least one of them is capable of putting up double-digit points. All three are on good offenses with the possibility of getting good totals from extra points as well. If I can get a 10-spot from my kicker position every week, it will be worth it.

Defense

21.06 Bills, Buffalo BUF Def (6)

13.06 Packers, Green Bay GBP Def (10)

Green Bay is a strong Def, but Buffalo?!?! Two words - CJ Spiller. The Bills may stay in games thanks to their special teams. If Spiller breaks one, this pick will be worth it. I was surprised to see them there in the 21st round.

Overall - I need a lot of things to go as planned and a lot of players to come through like I think they will. I like my overall quality of players and if things go the right way, I can see myself advancing. In best ball, the name of the game is consistency, value and quality. While it's good to take a few risks with players, it's more important to have solid production. I have six players out of 24 that have an early bye, but all six don't need to be the major point producers every week. I have advanced out of the first round of Survivor each time I've played. Last year I wasn't loving my leg 1 squad, but I felt I made good decisions. I feel the same way this year.

 
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I do want to say, I've never been in a draft that I was constantly snaked left and right. After a pick, I like to load up my que and players were literally disappearing as I added them. It was like we were sharing the same brain. The difference here was experience IMO. A few of us drafted teams before in which you could start two QBs, most didn't. You're never prepared to see the QBs fly off the board like they did until you actually see it.

 
Having read these last two draft threads I'm really regretting pulling out of this contest.

I just couldn't make the drafts work because of time difference. Hopefully can get some good experience/advice reading these and get back in next year.

 
Deranged Hermit said:
I do want to say, I've never been in a draft that I was constantly snaked left and right. After a pick, I like to load up my que and players were literally disappearing as I added them. It was like we were sharing the same brain. The difference here was experience IMO. A few of us drafted teams before in which you could start two QBs, most didn't. You're never prepared to see the QBs fly off the board like they did until you actually see it.
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I'm fascinated to see how that works out for people. This was my first Superflex league but I did some research and looked back on the 3 leagues that had it last year (1, 5 and 7). For the most part, the people who got the first couple of QB2 picks were OK, although didn't advance as well as you would think. But the people chasing their QB2 in the 4th round (as someone mentioned Brady Quinn in the 4th last year) didn't fare so well. I was happy to get Rivers but couldn't justify chasing another one for awhile. The theory of having a QB as your flex due to the greater points scored is fine. But the execution didn't always seem that great. Should be a lot of fun to see what happens.
 
ConstruxBoy said:
Deranged Hermit said:
I do want to say, I've never been in a draft that I was constantly snaked left and right. After a pick, I like to load up my que and players were literally disappearing as I added them. It was like we were sharing the same brain. The difference here was experience IMO. A few of us drafted teams before in which you could start two QBs, most didn't. You're never prepared to see the QBs fly off the board like they did until you actually see it.
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I'm fascinated to see how that works out for people. This was my first Superflex league but I did some research and looked back on the 3 leagues that had it last year (1, 5 and 7). For the most part, the people who got the first couple of QB2 picks were OK, although didn't advance as well as you would think. But the people chasing their QB2 in the 4th round (as someone mentioned Brady Quinn in the 4th last year) didn't fare so well. I was happy to get Rivers but couldn't justify chasing another one for awhile. The theory of having a QB as your flex due to the greater points scored is fine. But the execution didn't always seem that great. Should be a lot of fun to see what happens.
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0I agree with a lot you say (especially the 'chasing' part with Quinn. The particular league I was in, you needed two GOOD QBs to advance. I was lucky as I took Garrard in the latter part of the 3rd and was happy I did as he was hot early on in the season.My point is that a few teams didn't do the research you did and got killed at QB as a result. You NEEDED to leave rd 3 with at least one QB or you got screwed.
 
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