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Boldin vs. Colston (1 Viewer)
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TheLastDispatch
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The popular choice is likely Colston, but I like Boldin more and here's why:
-Colston had 7 games with 3 catches or less last season, including the post season. That kind of inconsistency isn't what I'm looking for in my weekly starting WR.
-Derrick Mason logged 130+ targets, 1000+ yards, and 7 TDs last season as the Ravens WR#1. As much as people will point out that the Ravens are a run first team, they also pass a fair bit. Their WR#1 definitely has value. I'd expect Boldin to at least match these numbers as I believe he's more talented than Mason at this stage in their careers.
-Boldin also has the benefit of having a legitimate WR across from him, something Mason didn't have last year and faced more attention from defenses as a result of.
-Flacco is entering his third year and should continue to improve.
-Lastly and leastly, the Saints seem to have a fairly easy SoS as far as the ground game goes, which leads me to believe we may see more rushes this year.
This is just my .02 though, and I'm sure there are others who can give you better arguments.
-Colston had 7 games with 3 catches or less last season, including the post season. That kind of inconsistency isn't what I'm looking for in my weekly starting WR.
-Derrick Mason logged 130+ targets, 1000+ yards, and 7 TDs last season as the Ravens WR#1. As much as people will point out that the Ravens are a run first team, they also pass a fair bit. Their WR#1 definitely has value. I'd expect Boldin to at least match these numbers as I believe he's more talented than Mason at this stage in their careers.
-Boldin also has the benefit of having a legitimate WR across from him, something Mason didn't have last year and faced more attention from defenses as a result of.
-Flacco is entering his third year and should continue to improve.
-Lastly and leastly, the Saints seem to have a fairly easy SoS as far as the ground game goes, which leads me to believe we may see more rushes this year.
This is just my .02 though, and I'm sure there are others who can give you better arguments.
I picked boldin in my mock.... Saints have too many good wrs, ravens have 2I think i like boldin more as well
frogpond11
Footballguy
These guys are fairly interchangeable for me, but if I had to pick one, it would be Colston.
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SYMPHONY X
Footballguy
Funny that you posted this about the same time that I realized that I would be facing the same decision for my #2WR! Right now, I am leaning towards Boldin. The Ravens secondary is going to be brutally bad this year. Not sure if they are facing many high-powered offenses this year, but there has to be some shootouts looming.
As far as Colston goes, if Meachem continues to improve, and stays on the hot streak he was on at the end of last season, I see no reason why he couldn't put up numbers similar to Colston. This of course makes Meachem a huge value pick.
As far as Colston goes, if Meachem continues to improve, and stays on the hot streak he was on at the end of last season, I see no reason why he couldn't put up numbers similar to Colston. This of course makes Meachem a huge value pick.
frogpond11
Footballguy
I thought I was maybe going to have this decision for my WR2 spot behind Randy...but the guy before me took Boldin, so I was left with Colston. I might would have went with Boldin if he would have been there. There are good arguments for taking him over Colston.
I'd go Colston, though I wouldn't consider it "wrong" to go with Boldin. With Colston, you know what you are getting. There is little risk...he is the #1 receiver on a team that passes a lot, but spreads it around effectively. With Boldin, there is a little more unknown because the situation is all new. It might be a little different catching passes from Flacco compared to Warner. It might be a little different going against the Bengal and Pittsburgh secondaries compared to the Seattle and St. Louis secondaries.
Team ROFLCOPTERS
Footballguy
Assuming Boldin stays healthy he will probably see more targets. Lance Moore will be leaching his 80+ targets this year away from Colston. Something that didn't happen last year.
Colston will drive you mad with his inconsitencies but I think he's the pick despite my initial paragraph. I just never trust Boldin.
Colston will drive you mad with his inconsitencies but I think he's the pick despite my initial paragraph. I just never trust Boldin.
He is below both imo.Boldin and colston have better qbs.
the spanker
Footballguy
Hmmmmm not sure I agree here because Steve Smith is the focal point for the Panthers passing attack. Smith has put up very good stats until Delhomme fell apart last year. If Moore is even half an upgrade Smith should get more overall targets.
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Team ROFLCOPTERS
Footballguy
Smith looked like he lost burst and he simply didn't fight for the ball. I think he hung Delhomme out to dry on a ton of occasions when he was on the field last year. Will he regain his drive? That's to be determined but I stay away from guys once they look like they lost their passion.
gandalas
Footballguy
I disagree...With Smith's last 4 games of his season with Matt Moore, he went3 - 782 - 83, 1 TD9 - 157, 1 TD5 - 60, 1 TDThis was 19 receptions for 378 yards and 3 TD over 4 games. This was also 38% of his yardage totals, and 43% of his TDs in only 27% of his games played. In other words, he seemed to do well with Moore at QB. This makes him a nice value pick in my eyes this season, and I think he will finish ahead of Colston and Boldin easily.
I'm not particullarly high on either Colston or Boldin, especially given their ADPs. This year I think a better draft strategy is to take one elite WR early and then take advantage of the considerable WR depth later with guys like Ocho, Nicks, Ward, Floyd, Maclin, TO, Knox, Meachem, Mason, Hester, Avery, Gaffney, Cotchery, etc.
That said, I'd probably go with Colston over Boldin.
That said, I'd probably go with Colston over Boldin.
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
BAL homers - or anyone. I haven't heard anything about how Flacco and Boldin are getting on. Did either make a point of geting with the other for workouts - timing practice, eating/hanging together, etc. That kind of thing.
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
So 1 more than Calvin Johnson in the regular season.
Colston, it's not even close for me.
Brees is orders of magnitude better than Flacco. People forget that Flacco is mr. checkdown and Cam Cameron's offense is geared toward getting the ball to the RB, either in the air or on the ground. Boldin won't change that. That is still a team geared toward the RB, and Derrick Mason won't make nearly as much of a difference as Robert Meachem will when it comes time to drawing coverage away from the WR1.
Colston has had TD catches in at least 7 games/season since he's been in the league other than last season when he was injured and he's caught TDs in 11 of his last 19 regular season games. Boldin hasn't seen a double-team since Larry Fitzgerald has been in the NFL and still only scored in 3 games last season. Boldin is DEFINITELY capable of handling himself, but I think if you factor in the enormous difference in QB quality, the difference in offensive scheme, and Boldin's tendency to miss games each season, I gotta go with Colston
I don't trust Flacco, I don't trust Cameron and Rice is simply too good.
Red Zone targets last season for the Ravens:
Ray Rice - 53
Willis McGahee - 33
all Ravens WRs combined - 28
Receptions last season for the Ravens:
Rice - 78
Mason - 73
Red Zone targets for the Saints:
PT - 33
Colston - 25
all other Saints WRs combined - 21
Remember, Colston is a 6'4, 225 lb former TE. He is a red zone target. Boldin is 6'1 with average jumping ability playing on a team that has been top 5 in rushing TDs in each of the last 2 seasons but ranked 16th in passing TDs each of the past 2 seasons.
and for the final nail in the coffin, remember the weather. 4 of Baltimore's last 5 games in the regular season will be in the abject cold of the AFC North. 3 of NO's last 5 games will be in warmth and beauty of the NFC South
I may eat my words, but this one is an easy one for me.
Brees is orders of magnitude better than Flacco. People forget that Flacco is mr. checkdown and Cam Cameron's offense is geared toward getting the ball to the RB, either in the air or on the ground. Boldin won't change that. That is still a team geared toward the RB, and Derrick Mason won't make nearly as much of a difference as Robert Meachem will when it comes time to drawing coverage away from the WR1.
Colston has had TD catches in at least 7 games/season since he's been in the league other than last season when he was injured and he's caught TDs in 11 of his last 19 regular season games. Boldin hasn't seen a double-team since Larry Fitzgerald has been in the NFL and still only scored in 3 games last season. Boldin is DEFINITELY capable of handling himself, but I think if you factor in the enormous difference in QB quality, the difference in offensive scheme, and Boldin's tendency to miss games each season, I gotta go with Colston
I don't trust Flacco, I don't trust Cameron and Rice is simply too good.
Red Zone targets last season for the Ravens:
Ray Rice - 53
Willis McGahee - 33
all Ravens WRs combined - 28
Receptions last season for the Ravens:
Rice - 78
Mason - 73
Red Zone targets for the Saints:
PT - 33
Colston - 25
all other Saints WRs combined - 21
Remember, Colston is a 6'4, 225 lb former TE. He is a red zone target. Boldin is 6'1 with average jumping ability playing on a team that has been top 5 in rushing TDs in each of the last 2 seasons but ranked 16th in passing TDs each of the past 2 seasons.
and for the final nail in the coffin, remember the weather. 4 of Baltimore's last 5 games in the regular season will be in the abject cold of the AFC North. 3 of NO's last 5 games will be in warmth and beauty of the NFC South
I may eat my words, but this one is an easy one for me.
nysportsfan
Footballguy
I am thinking this may be the answer. This also leads me to think Rice isn't a top 4 pick, and Gore is.
I'd take gore over rice at 4.
baconisgood
Footballguy
1. Colston had 6 games with 3 receptions or less in the regular season- Boldin had 4- but Colston out scoured Boldin last season- 9-5 in TDs will do that for you2. The Ravens threw a ton to MASON-Mason got lots of targets but their #2 WR didn't get many- 82 and 74 targets the past 2 years- there is very little chance that a helthy Mason is under 90 targets for this team. How much they rework their offense to include Boldin is anyone's guess. 3. Mason had 101 target RB and an overall terrific ground game. 4. QBs usually improve by spreading the ball around more- not over targeting 1 receiver. With Boldin, Mason, Rice, Heap?, and a decent #3 this team does have to options to spread it around.5. Since Joining the Saints last year was Brees' fewest passing attempts- 514 in 15 games and he was the #2 fantasy QB because that is still a high # of attempts and he averages almost 8 yards an attempt in his time with the saints. Colston has averaged 0.57 TDs a game with the Saints and Boldin 0.46 TD/game with the Cardinals. Boldin averages more yards and receptions per game, Colston outscores him in standard leagues- Boldin in PPR.Both have injury risk- Colston's chronic, Boldin's maybe he breaks his face going over the middle.Boldin is more consistent within a season- but Colston is more consistent ACROSS his seasons- with Boldin's Y/g ranging from 62-100 and Colston's ranging from 67-74 and colston has a much tighter grouping for TD receptions.
