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Foster or Best (1 Viewer)
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The Dynasty
Footballguy
I don't have to. Drafted in early August. Snagged Best in the 6th and Foster off FA after the draft.
spaml0af
Footballguy
Neither yet, and I wonder if I'll be able to get any of them after today's games.I like Best as the higher upside player -- he's like Chris Johnson Jr -- but I hate his schedule. Foster is a great fit for the system he's in and I like his situation much better.
I have both on my dynasty team
...both key parts of my rebuild along with Moreno, Nicks and Bryant.If I had to chose one it would be Best, but it wouldn't be by much. Receptions and receiving yards (Best) make the difference over better rushing yards and TD's (Foster), due to ppr.
money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
Foster. Reasoning would be that Foster is on a much better offense with a better offensive line. Foster's body is more equipped to take on a full load. Best has an injury history that makes me bit nervous. I believe Slaton only gets touches as a spell back or if Foster is tired. Best does have the upper hand on big play ability but I'm not sure Detroit has the scoring chances otherwise. I like both RB's but if I had to grab one at value it (would've been) Foster but it seems both are being taken now around the same ADP. Either way at this point Im going Foster but I wouldnt mind Best
Dynasty or Keeper I'd be more inclined to take Best. This season Foster.
Dynasty or Keeper I'd be more inclined to take Best. This season Foster.
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bulger2holt
Footballguy
I am taking both at the 3/4 turn from the 11th spot and not embarrassed to admit ( 3-11 and 4-2 ). Heck, they might not even be there by next weekend when we draft at this rate. Spiller at 5-11 too. That's how i'm rolling, swinging for the fences.
The Dynasty
Footballguy
I've got both behind Turner and Mendenhall. Have enough confidence in these two guys that I plan to ship Mendenhall out for an elite WR
timschochet
Footballguy
In PPR I would not be surprised to see either one or both of these guys outperform Turner this year.
Agree Foster has the better situation but there is a talent gap here.....Best is absolutely electric. I view them virtually even....Foster is a little safer and Best has more upside.
I would have said Best until I just read Slaton has turf toe so its Foster for me BUT since there both my starters I am happy to have both.
Steve Slaton - RB - Texans
Steve Slaton left Saturday's game against the Cowboys with a foot injury.
Slaton returned from the locker room in shorts and said he'd be fine. NFL Network is calling it a turf toe injury, though, and he's not expected to play in the preseason finale. Turf toe injuries are known to linger depending on the severity, so Slaton is no sure bet to be ready for the opener. He's only draftable as a "handcuff" to Arian Foster at this point.
Aug. 29 - 12:13 a.m. ET
Steve Slaton - RB - Texans
Steve Slaton left Saturday's game against the Cowboys with a foot injury.
Slaton returned from the locker room in shorts and said he'd be fine. NFL Network is calling it a turf toe injury, though, and he's not expected to play in the preseason finale. Turf toe injuries are known to linger depending on the severity, so Slaton is no sure bet to be ready for the opener. He's only draftable as a "handcuff" to Arian Foster at this point.
Aug. 29 - 12:13 a.m. ET
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
I think Best will get more touches and big plays. But TDs can be fluke-y so who knows. I did draft both of these guys in 2 leagues already so now I have the "problem" of deciding which to start.
People are going to be surprised how good the Lions offense is this year. The offensive line is still a concern, but it has been upgraded. Stafford '10 >>> Stafford '09. Best is going to get plenty of scoring opportunities. My only concern is they may give Smith some of the short yardage duties, but I don't think that is a wise move. Best is quicker, better at finding the holes, and is strong for his size.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
I think the chances of Best being there at the 3/4 turn are remote now.bulger2holt said:
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
Picking from the 12 spot, got Best at 5.12 and Foster at 7.12 on Friday night. My local league is not always up to date 
theplayer11
Footballguy
where are you guys ranking Foster and Best?...Ahead of guys like Grant, Benson, Moreno.....Mendy?
Balance
Footballguy
I'd take both over all of those myself. I expect equivalent or better performance for half the price.
theplayer11
Footballguy
that's the problem, when to take. It just takes 2 other owners in a 12 teamer to feel the same way and both go in the 2nd round.
Statler & Waldorf
Footballguy
Wow, the only person I'd take those guys over would be Moreno. Grant's on one of the best offenses in football.
Balance
Footballguy
if you are dead set on those players then perhaps you wont get them at value.. if people take them in the second that should then drop the other grp and increase their value.i do auctions exclusively now so i will set a value to get these guys at (mid $20's), run em all up to that point, see what happens.
frae
Footballguy
What have you seen them going for in auctions? I have never done one and have my first one tonight and am curious if mid 20's or teens is where these guys will go.
Balance
Footballguy
$200 ESPN mock fridayRB/WR Arian Foster 11RB/WR Jahvid Best 14This is cheaper than I expect to be paying mid-week. I will go nearly double personally.
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mike303
Footballguy
I got 'em both. I picked 12 in a 12 team re-draft 0.5 PPR league at work. Very competitive for a work league, 11 of 12 know their business.
I went Andre & Calvin at the 1.12/2.01.
Then: Best/Jennings Foster/Bradshaw at the next two turns. I'm concerned about having two Texans and two Lions but I think they will each be stronger than expected a few months ago.
This was a week ago and prior to Best and Foster looking like beasts this weekend. I never say this but this year drafting early worked out for me!
I went Andre & Calvin at the 1.12/2.01.
Then: Best/Jennings Foster/Bradshaw at the next two turns. I'm concerned about having two Texans and two Lions but I think they will each be stronger than expected a few months ago.
This was a week ago and prior to Best and Foster looking like beasts this weekend. I never say this but this year drafting early worked out for me!
TheAssassin
Footballguy
Local league $200 auction last Friday - I got Best at $15, Foster for $7
Kuz
Footballguy
That worked out sweet for you. Is it a 6 point TD pass league. I doubt many leagues will get AJ at #12 & also getting Jennings in the late 3rd/early 4th is a surprise too. As for Best & Foster. both have really looked good. I know there's no way that Foster will last until the end of the 5th or early 6th in either of my leagues coming up. You should have a really good looking team if these guys work out. Nice job.Who is your QB?
mike303
Footballguy
Kolb. I'm a huge Eagles fan, but never let that enter my picks. I'm thinking he could be a mild surprise and finish top 10-12. I'm not sold on him but preferred to wait on a QB. Jennings should never have been on the board at the 36/37 turn. That is outrageous. If he was drafted when he should have been, I would have went QB at the 3/4 turn. Manning, Brees, Rodgers all went between 1.07 and 1.11 so that paved the way for A.Johnson to fall to 1.12...
Not sure how people can say Foster has the better situation.
the Detroit Lions were 2nd in the NFL in runs of 4+ yds last year. That offensive line can run-block, and Best will have lots of opportunities to break big runs. Not to mention that he really has nobody lurking to take carries away either.
the Detroit Lions were 2nd in the NFL in runs of 4+ yds last year. That offensive line can run-block, and Best will have lots of opportunities to break big runs. Not to mention that he really has nobody lurking to take carries away either.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
That stat is a bit distorted because the Lions were down so much that defenses were geared to take away the pass. The Lions were not a good rushing team last year. However, I think Best is in a good situation and is going to be great. I expect the Lions to put up a lot of points this year. However, I don't think Best gets the GL carries, where Foster will. That IMO is the big difference.
VaTerp
Footballguy
This stat doesnt really mean anything to me. A lot of that could have been due to the fact that they were in a lot of 2nd or 3rd and long situations where they picked up more than 4 yards on draw plays and delays.I think Foster is in the better situation for the reasons I stated before. Better offense, better overall team, which should lead to more scoring opportunities. Also, I think that K Smith could be a short yardage/goaline vulture.
But overall, I think it's very close and see no problems with taking Best over Foster. Foster is still slightly higher on my board though.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I think FB Jerome Felton will be the GL guy. I also don't think Kevin Smith makes the team.
Domination
Footballguy
I guess that I will disagree with most people, especially in a PPR league.
I think that Best is a much more talented RB, and a good reciever out of the backfield. Foster will see his share of carries, but I think that Slaton will be their 3rd down/recieving back. In a PPR or dynasty is would not be that close, as I would take Best. A non-PPR redraft, and I might think its a little closer. But in the end, I always default to talent, and Best is far and away more talented than Foster.
I think that Best is a much more talented RB, and a good reciever out of the backfield. Foster will see his share of carries, but I think that Slaton will be their 3rd down/recieving back. In a PPR or dynasty is would not be that close, as I would take Best. A non-PPR redraft, and I might think its a little closer. But in the end, I always default to talent, and Best is far and away more talented than Foster.
JB Breakfast Club
Footballguy
Both of them are losing value fast. Foster went #19 overall last night and Best was #29 (to the same team). The hype trains are out of control!
It means that there will be a lot of opportunities for Best to make big gains. Whether or not those are on 2nd or 3rd and long are irrelevant. Fantasy points aren't put into any type of context. If he gets 100+ yds per week, and the Lions go 5-11, it won't make a difference.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
Best, it's all in the name
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Lions were also 24th in yards per game, 25th in ypc, 22nd in rushing TDs, 31st in rushes over 20 yards (just 5) and only had 1 run over 40 yards. I don't think using Detroit's 2009 rushing stats help you make any kind of case for Best.
VaTerp
Footballguy
I see your point but I still don't put anything into that stat. Best will have long runs this year because he he has big play ability, not because of a circumstantial stat from the year before. I simply think Foster will have the opportunity to be on the field more and have more touches in the red zone because again, Houston is a better team and offense. Plus he is more likely to get GL carries (IMO).
OK, so they were 2nd in the NFL in carries of 4+ yds, yet they were 25th in ypc. What does that tell you
Ilov80s
Footballguy
It tells me they were a bad rushing team who led the league in some random stat because they ran a lot of draws on 2nd/3rd and long. Which is precisely what I saw with my own eyes as a Detroit homer. Regardless, I am very bullish on Best this year, just not for the same reasons as you.OK, so they were 2nd in the NFL in carries of 4+ yds, yet they were 25th in ypc. What does that tell you
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Or they could have had an offensive line that could consistently open holes, but RBs that couldn't break anything big?It tells me they were a bad rushing team who led the league in some random stat because they ran a lot of draws on 2nd/3rd and long. Which is precisely what I saw with my own eyes as a Detroit homer. Regardless, I am very bullish on Best this year, just not for the same reasons as you.OK, so they were 2nd in the NFL in carries of 4+ yds, yet they were 25th in ypc. What does that tell you
Doug B
Footballguy
Best lasted all the way until my 4.04 pick (#40 overall). So I ended up with both guys (Foster at 2.04, 16th).
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1st and 10 could be a great down to run on for a RB if your team is trailing like Detroit usually was. Teams will let you have those 4 yd. clips all day long when they're ahead late in the game.Regardless, that stat doesn't prove anything. Unless you get bonus points for rushes over 4 yards (but not over 20 because Detroit only had 5 of those), it really shouldn't factor in much at all.
Doug B
Footballguy
I think the Lions' O-line is decent, as well. One thing I would point out about these stats is that it's a lot easier to run on 1sr/2nd down when your team is behind 2+ scores. The defense will be playing back more often to guard against the pass.Are you able to pull the 2009 Lions' YPC per quarter or per half? If their 1st qtr/1st half rushing stats are solid, that makes the stats you posted look a lot stronger.
