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I know Lynch to GB makes too much sense for it to really happen, but a possibility?

Im sure the Bills would still be willing to trade Lynch. The Packers, a SB favorite this year are in dire need of a RB, so they might be willing to pay the 3rd round pick the Bills were looking for. With Buffalo in GB this week, maybe the two teams talk?

 
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I know Lynch to GB makes too much sense for it to really happen, but a possibility?Im sure the Bills would still be willing to trade Lynch. The Packers, a SB favorite this year are in dire need of a RB, so they might be willing to pay the 3rd round pick the Bills were looking for. With Buffalo in GB this week, maybe the two teams talk?
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It's been brought up ... but very good point about Buffalo being in GB ... it makes it a bit more realistic
 
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doubletrouble said:
Lynch will rot on Buffalo's bench so please stop dreaming....
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Lynch has at most 15 games left in his Buffalo career.
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Maybe, maybe not....look at his salary for the next 3 yrs next to nothing...7/27/2007: Signed a six-year, $18.935 million contract. The deal contains $10.285 million guaranteed, including a $3 million signing bonus. 2010: $885,000, 2011: $1.14 million, 2012: $1.14 million (Voidable Year), 2013: Free Agent
 
The simple fact is, whether FANTASY OWNERS are content with Brandon Jackson carrying the rock, Green Bay's top brass is obviously content with Jackson carrying the rock, since they entered the season with only 2 RBs on their roster. I think everyone scrambling to find some way for Green Bay to trade for an RB they might like is missing the fact that Green Bay already has an RB they like.

 
I think it's highly unlikely they try to get Lynch or McGahee. I don't recall any past teams with Superbowl aspirations, going after a new starting RB when their starter goes down. The Packers were fine with going with Grant, so they are fine with passing being their strong point.

some examples of teams with Superbowl expectations where the RB went down:

2005 Packers: A. Green hurt and Gado & Fisher are used.

2004 Panthers: S. Davis hurt and Goings, Hoover and Foster fill in.

2001 Colts: E. James hurt and D. Rhodes takes over.

1999 Broncos: T. Davis hurt and Olandis Gary steps in.

1999 Falcons: Jamal Anderson hurt and Oxendine and Hanspard carry the load.

And these teams above were more dependent of their backs than the current Packer team is on Grant. Superbowl caliber teams trust their backups to carry the load when a starter goes down, even though all these teams didn't do well without their stud RB. But Grant wasn't relied on to be as big a part of the offense as the backs mentioned above.

 
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The simple fact is, whether FANTASY OWNERS are content with Brandon Jackson carrying the rock, Green Bay's top brass is obviously content with Jackson carrying the rock, since they entered the season with only 2 RBs on their roster. I think everyone scrambling to find some way for Green Bay to trade for an RB they might like is missing the fact that Green Bay already has an RB they like.
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People forget that the GB coaching staff was pumping up Jackson's improved work ethic and conditioning this offseason.I agree with you, I don't see any trade unless Jackson proves to be ineffective after a few weeks.
 
Thompson isn't going after any costly rb during the season. No way he goes after any rb who would cost more then a 5th round pick.

As shocked as many might be, gb is fine with jackson and he's had the stranglehold on the backup job for a reason.

Gb went into the season with just grant and jackson because they are confident in both. Now that grant is out it's jacksons job like it or not.

 
SSOG said:
The simple fact is, whether FANTASY OWNERS are content with Brandon Jackson carrying the rock, Green Bay's top brass is obviously content with Jackson carrying the rock, since they entered the season with only 2 RBs on their roster. I think everyone scrambling to find some way for Green Bay to trade for an RB they might like is missing the fact that Green Bay already has an RB they like.
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So GB is not going to replace Grant and hope that Jackson doesn't get hurt? Has any team ever gone with 1 RB on their roster for an entire season?
 
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SSOG said:
The simple fact is, whether FANTASY OWNERS are content with Brandon Jackson carrying the rock, Green Bay's top brass is obviously content with Jackson carrying the rock, since they entered the season with only 2 RBs on their roster. I think everyone scrambling to find some way for Green Bay to trade for an RB they might like is missing the fact that Green Bay already has an RB they like.
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So GB is not going to replace Grant and hope that Jackson doesn't get hurt? Has any team ever gone with 1 RB on their roster for an entire season?
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Green Bay has more than 1 RB.
 
SSOG said:
The simple fact is, whether FANTASY OWNERS are content with Brandon Jackson carrying the rock, Green Bay's top brass is obviously content with Jackson carrying the rock, since they entered the season with only 2 RBs on their roster. I think everyone scrambling to find some way for Green Bay to trade for an RB they might like is missing the fact that Green Bay already has an RB they like.
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Me being a fantasy owner has nothing to do with my thoughts that a SB contender might not want to put all their eggs in the Brandon Jackson basket. Even if they are happy with Jackson as their starter(which im not so sure about), he is all they have left. I have to imagine if they could get a guy like Lynch for a 3rd, they would have to consider it.
 
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SSOG said:
The simple fact is, whether FANTASY OWNERS are content with Brandon Jackson carrying the rock, Green Bay's top brass is obviously content with Jackson carrying the rock, since they entered the season with only 2 RBs on their roster. I think everyone scrambling to find some way for Green Bay to trade for an RB they might like is missing the fact that Green Bay already has an RB they like.
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Me being a fantasy owner has nothing to do with my thoughts that a SB contender might not want to put all their eggs in the Brandon Jackson basket. Even if they are happy with Jackson as their starter(which im not so sure about), he is all they have left. I have to imagine if they could get a guy like Lynch for a 3rd, they would have to consider it.
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You obviously haven't paid attention to how ted thompson runs a team. He isn't giving up a 3rd round pick for a rb.
 
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SSOG said:
The simple fact is, whether FANTASY OWNERS are content with Brandon Jackson carrying the rock, Green Bay's top brass is obviously content with Jackson carrying the rock, since they entered the season with only 2 RBs on their roster. I think everyone scrambling to find some way for Green Bay to trade for an RB they might like is missing the fact that Green Bay already has an RB they like.
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Me being a fantasy owner has nothing to do with my thoughts that a SB contender might not want to put all their eggs in the Brandon Jackson basket. Even if they are happy with Jackson as their starter(which im not so sure about), he is all they have left. I have to imagine if they could get a guy like Lynch for a 3rd, they would have to consider it.
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You obviously haven't paid attention to how ted thompson runs a team. He isn't giving up a 3rd round pick for a rb.
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No offense, but this is the most ridiculous thing people say around here. Every situation is different, and unless you are him, you cant say what he will or wont do.
 
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SSOG said:
The simple fact is, whether FANTASY OWNERS are content with Brandon Jackson carrying the rock, Green Bay's top brass is obviously content with Jackson carrying the rock, since they entered the season with only 2 RBs on their roster. I think everyone scrambling to find some way for Green Bay to trade for an RB they might like is missing the fact that Green Bay already has an RB they like.
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Me being a fantasy owner has nothing to do with my thoughts that a SB contender might not want to put all their eggs in the Brandon Jackson basket. Even if they are happy with Jackson as their starter(which im not so sure about), he is all they have left. I have to imagine if they could get a guy like Lynch for a 3rd, they would have to consider it.
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You obviously haven't paid attention to how ted thompson runs a team. He isn't giving up a 3rd round pick for a rb.
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No offense, but this is the most ridiculous thing people say around here. Every situation is different, and unless you are him, you cant say what he will or wont do.
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Name me the last time thompson traded away a significant draft pick during the season to upgrade any position due to an injury?Since he has been there the packers have had injuries at most positions during the year that hampered them a lot more then grant being out, and yet thompsons strategy isn't to run out and try to trade high draft picks away to fill them in.
 
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SSOG said:
The simple fact is, whether FANTASY OWNERS are content with Brandon Jackson carrying the rock, Green Bay's top brass is obviously content with Jackson carrying the rock, since they entered the season with only 2 RBs on their roster. I think everyone scrambling to find some way for Green Bay to trade for an RB they might like is missing the fact that Green Bay already has an RB they like.
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Me being a fantasy owner has nothing to do with my thoughts that a SB contender might not want to put all their eggs in the Brandon Jackson basket. Even if they are happy with Jackson as their starter(which im not so sure about), he is all they have left. I have to imagine if they could get a guy like Lynch for a 3rd, they would have to consider it.
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They're not putting all their eggs in the Brandon Jackson basket. They already signed a new RB from Atlanta.
 
TT will not part with a 3rd rd pick plain and simple. Green Bay drafts and develops. It is time to see what Brandon Jackson can do.

 
Lynch would be a reasonable option, but his price would eliminate him. Buff has too high regard for his talent for GB to pay their price. GB would rather take a flier RB off a practice squad or a 3rd or 4th guy on depth chart from another team willing to part with them for a reasonable price (5th or 6th round pick).

Some names I would consider a reasonable "reach"

Lance Ball Denver - with Maroney now in town, Ball is expendable

Lex Hilliard Miami - showed skill when Ronnie went down last year

Kregg Lumpkin TB- he knows the GB offense.....

Quinton Gather Sea - cheap option

I believe Lance Ball will be in Green after Saturday!

 
Patoons said:
SSOG said:
The simple fact is, whether FANTASY OWNERS are content with Brandon Jackson carrying the rock, Green Bay's top brass is obviously content with Jackson carrying the rock, since they entered the season with only 2 RBs on their roster. I think everyone scrambling to find some way for Green Bay to trade for an RB they might like is missing the fact that Green Bay already has an RB they like.
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People forget that the GB coaching staff was pumping up Jackson's improved work ethic and conditioning this offseason.I agree with you, I don't see any trade unless Jackson proves to be ineffective after a few weeks.
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This is true if they meant it. But I'm not completely convinced they did. If they didn't I'd think that Lynch or McGahee could be had.
 
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SSOG said:
The simple fact is, whether FANTASY OWNERS are content with Brandon Jackson carrying the rock, Green Bay's top brass is obviously content with Jackson carrying the rock, since they entered the season with only 2 RBs on their roster. I think everyone scrambling to find some way for Green Bay to trade for an RB they might like is missing the fact that Green Bay already has an RB they like.
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Me being a fantasy owner has nothing to do with my thoughts that a SB contender might not want to put all their eggs in the Brandon Jackson basket. Even if they are happy with Jackson as their starter(which im not so sure about), he is all they have left. I have to imagine if they could get a guy like Lynch for a 3rd, they would have to consider it.
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Does Lynch really offer that much more than Fargas (who can be gotten for nothing off waivers) that he is worth a second or third or even fourth round pick?
 
SSOG said:
The simple fact is, whether FANTASY OWNERS are content with Brandon Jackson carrying the rock, Green Bay's top brass is obviously content with Jackson carrying the rock, since they entered the season with only 2 RBs on their roster. I think everyone scrambling to find some way for Green Bay to trade for an RB they might like is missing the fact that Green Bay already has an RB they like.
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Unless you think the others are all fullbacks or hbacks this is in error (I know rare for SSOG)They have Kuhn (who scored last week) as well as Korey Hall and Quinn Johnson on the roster.......and as already posted have added Nance

Count me in the "don't see a trade unless Jackson fails or gets hurt" camp

 
I think the big point being missed is that Jackson has been an injury magnet. There's absolutely no way he's featured and stays healthy IMO. If GB is serious about contending, they better seriously consider bringing someone of note and not some practice squad flyer.

 
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I think the big point being missed is that Jackson has been an injury magnet. There's absolutely no way he's featured and stays healthy IMO. If GB is serious about contending, they better seriously consider bringing someone of note and not some practice squad flyer.
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absolutely no way huh?you also got the lottery numbers for tonight?
 
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Futz said:
I think the big point being missed is that Jackson has been an injury magnet. There's absolutely no way he's featured and stays healthy IMO. If GB is serious about contending, they better seriously consider bringing someone of note and not some practice squad flyer.
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absolutely no way huh?you also got the lottery numbers for tonight?
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The guy has been searing hot glass thrown into cold water the minute he gets any playing time. GB brass knows this even if you don't. It would be foolish to stand pat.
 
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SSOG said:
The simple fact is, whether FANTASY OWNERS are content with Brandon Jackson carrying the rock, Green Bay's top brass is obviously content with Jackson carrying the rock, since they entered the season with only 2 RBs on their roster. I think everyone scrambling to find some way for Green Bay to trade for an RB they might like is missing the fact that Green Bay already has an RB they like.
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Me being a fantasy owner has nothing to do with my thoughts that a SB contender might not want to put all their eggs in the Brandon Jackson basket. Even if they are happy with Jackson as their starter(which im not so sure about), he is all they have left. I have to imagine if they could get a guy like Lynch for a 3rd, they would have to consider it.
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Obviously they did want to put all their eggs in the Brandon Jackson basket. You know how I know? Because they cut Wynn and Lumpkin, effectively putting all their eggs in the Brandon Jackson basket.
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This is true if they meant it. But I'm not completely convinced they did. If they didn't I'd think that Lynch or McGahee could be had.
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Obviously they meant it, because they cut Desean Wynn and Kregg Lumpkin, both of whom were promptly signed to other teams' 53-man rosters.
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Unless you think the others are all fullbacks or hbacks this is in error (I know rare for SSOG)
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GB entered the season with 2 RBs and 3 FBs. I'm sure some of those FBs (such as Kuhn) could get some carries in a pinch, but I'm sure they're in FB shape (which is different than RB shape). Check out the official Green Bay depth chart.
 
SSOG said:
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SSOG said:
The simple fact is, whether FANTASY OWNERS are content with Brandon Jackson carrying the rock, Green Bay's top brass is obviously content with Jackson carrying the rock, since they entered the season with only 2 RBs on their roster. I think everyone scrambling to find some way for Green Bay to trade for an RB they might like is missing the fact that Green Bay already has an RB they like.
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Me being a fantasy owner has nothing to do with my thoughts that a SB contender might not want to put all their eggs in the Brandon Jackson basket. Even if they are happy with Jackson as their starter(which im not so sure about), he is all they have left. I have to imagine if they could get a guy like Lynch for a 3rd, they would have to consider it.
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Obviously they did want to put all their eggs in the Brandon Jackson basket. You know how I know? Because they cut Wynn and Lumpkin, effectively putting all their eggs in the Brandon Jackson basket.

wdcrob said:
This is true if they meant it. But I'm not completely convinced they did. If they didn't I'd think that Lynch or McGahee could be had.
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Obviously they meant it, because they cut Desean Wynn and Kregg Lumpkin, both of whom were promptly signed to other teams' 53-man rosters.
Captain Hook said:
Unless you think the others are all fullbacks or hbacks this is in error (I know rare for SSOG)
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GB entered the season with 2 RBs and 3 FBs. I'm sure some of those FBs (such as Kuhn) could get some carries in a pinch, but I'm sure they're in FB shape (which is different than RB shape). Check out the official Green Bay depth chart.
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No, they put all their eggs in the Grant/Jackson basket.
 
When is Starks expected back? What do they think of him and how will he fit into this tangled web known as the GB running back situation?

 
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No, they put all their eggs in the Grant/Jackson basket.
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Did they do that under the assumption that Ryan Grant was an alien made out of liquid titanium and therefore immune to the threat of injury? Or did they do it knowing full well that there was a very real chance that Grant would get hurt and *gasp* Brandon Jackson would be the guy! (*dun dun DUUUUUNNNNN*)
 
but ssog...he was prematurely pushed into the starting role as a rookie and didn't hold onto it...doesn't that mean he's a terrible player for the rest of his career?

 
Futz said:
I think the big point being missed is that Jackson has been an injury magnet. There's absolutely no way he's featured and stays healthy IMO. If GB is serious about contending, they better seriously consider bringing someone of note and not some practice squad flyer.
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This doesn't make any sense, lol. This is not a matter of opinion. Cherry pie vs Applie pie, Obama vs Mccain, the most beautiful flower, the luckiest number, etc etc etc. These are topics where opinions are relevant. Attempting to tell the future injury record of an NFL player is not a matter of opinion. It is a guess, a prognostication most likely based on nothing.

Now if you have evidence of an injury history out of the norm for NFL running backs and then attempted to make an educated guess on the PROBABILITY of something occuring...well, that still wouldn't be a matter of opinion, it would still be a guess, but at least it would be an educated guess as opposed to just a nonsensicle post :lol:

 
SSOG said:
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No, they put all their eggs in the Grant/Jackson basket.
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Did they do that under the assumption that Ryan Grant was an alien made out of liquid titanium and therefore immune to the threat of injury? Or did they do it knowing full well that there was a very real chance that Grant would get hurt and *gasp* Brandon Jackson would be the guy! (*dun dun DUUUUUNNNNN*)
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Is Jackson made of liquid titanium? So you think the Packers are going to depend on a guy who is not very good to begin with to stay healthy all year and carry the Packers running game? :lol:
 
SSOG said:
The simple fact is, whether FANTASY OWNERS are content with Brandon Jackson carrying the rock, Green Bay's top brass is obviously content with Jackson carrying the rock, since they entered the season with only 2 RBs on their roster. I think everyone scrambling to find some way for Green Bay to trade for an RB they might like is missing the fact that Green Bay already has an RB they like.
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Yeah they are happy with BJAX carrying it, but now they are one twisted ankle from losing him. Considering the Green Bay Cal Bear connection w/ Rodgers, the push m ight be made to go get him. JJ Arrington is also available. (joke)
 
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SSOG said:
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No, they put all their eggs in the Grant/Jackson basket.
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Did they do that under the assumption that Ryan Grant was an alien made out of liquid titanium and therefore immune to the threat of injury? Or did they do it knowing full well that there was a very real chance that Grant would get hurt and *gasp* Brandon Jackson would be the guy! (*dun dun DUUUUUNNNNN*)
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Is Jackson made of liquid titanium? So you think the Packers are going to depend on a guy who is not very good to begin with to stay healthy all year and carry the Packers running game? :thumbup:
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The point is the packers brass doesn't share your opinion that he isn't very good, otherwise they would have kept more depth at the rb position.The fbg's shark pool doesn't think much of brandon jackson, the packers obviously do, which is really all i care about when accessing his future prospects this season.
 
SSOG said:
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No, they put all their eggs in the Grant/Jackson basket.
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Did they do that under the assumption that Ryan Grant was an alien made out of liquid titanium and therefore immune to the threat of injury? Or did they do it knowing full well that there was a very real chance that Grant would get hurt and *gasp* Brandon Jackson would be the guy! (*dun dun DUUUUUNNNNN*)
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+1 :thumbup: :thumbup:
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but ssog...he was prematurely pushed the starting role as a rookie and didn't hold onto it...doesn't that mean he's a terrible player for the rest of his career?
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+2 :thumbup: :thumbup:
 
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i guess they kept the terrible fragile backup on the team as a joke?
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My guess is they figured they would make it to week six without a big issue at RB so then they could add depth with James Starks. #### obviously has changed. BJack/Kuhn is a temporary solution but most likely not a 16 week answer. I don't think they are going to give up the house to bring a guy in but I bet they reopen talks on Marshawn (a guy they targeted in the off season ... but hey they were completely comfortable with their situation right? so why would they try to get a guy like Lynch?)EDIT: also, they kicked around the idea of bringing in BWestbrook
 
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No, they put all their eggs in the Grant/Jackson basket.
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Did they do that under the assumption that Ryan Grant was an alien made out of liquid titanium and therefore immune to the threat of injury? Or did they do it knowing full well that there was a very real chance that Grant would get hurt and *gasp* Brandon Jackson would be the guy! (*dun dun DUUUUUNNNNN*)
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Is Jackson made of liquid titanium? So you think the Packers are going to depend on a guy who is not very good to begin with to stay healthy all year and carry the Packers running game? :thumbup:
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The point is the packers brass doesn't share your opinion that he isn't very good, otherwise they would have kept more depth at the rb position.The fbg's shark pool doesn't think much of brandon jackson, the packers obviously do, which is really all i care about when accessing his future prospects this season.
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The fact if he is good or not is not really the point, lets forget about that for a minute. He is all they have left on the roster, except for some guy they just signed off the Falcons practice squad. I understand you guys who own Jackson on your fantasy teams only care about him, but i cant imagine the Packers want to roll with him and just him for the entire season. You would think they will try to add a guy with some experience in case something happens to Jackson, or is he an alien made of titanium?
 
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The fact if he is good or not is not really the point, lets forget about that for a minute. He is all they have left on the roster, except for some guy they just signed off the Falcons practice squad.

I understand you guys who own Jackson on your fantasy teams only care about him, but i cant imagine the Packers want to roll with him and just him for the entire season. You would think they will try to add a guy with some experience in case something happens to Jackson, or is he an alien made of titanium?
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I'm sure they'll get a guy in case something happens to Jackson. In fact, they already got a guy in case something happens to Jackson. They signed him off of Atlanta's practice squad.Grant got hurt. It's not like this was some unimaginable possibility. Did Packers brass go into the season saying "Hey, we've got two perfectly capable backs on the roster, but let's just cut them both and then if one of our two remaining backs gets hurt, we'll trade a THIRD ROUNDER to acquire Marshawn Lynch"? That's crazy talk. A third rounder is a major, major asset. They wouldn't trade a major asset like that for a backup. Not after already cutting two perfectly good backups.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Packers were flirting with some retreads on the street (Samkon Gado, anyone?). I wouldn't be at all surprised if they were considering the possibility of sending a 7th rounder to Tampa for Lumpkin. I would be shocked if they were considering paying a 3rd rounder for Marshawn Lynch.

 
Who will they cut to get Lynch on the roster if they don't trade a player with a pick?

And now a team who was only wanting to have Grant and Jackson on the roster, would have Lynch, Jackson and Nance on the roster for at least 2 weeks (taking this week off of Nance's required 2 weeks).

 
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