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Lance Moore could benefit from Bush's absence (1 Viewer)

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The one person on the Saints roster who may benefit from Reggie Bush's absence could be Lance Moore.

Moore has been very productive in the Saints offense in the past, but had lost many of his looks/targets to Bush. I think it's possible that Moore recieves many of the short to intermediate passes that Bush has been getting the last couple of years.

 
Louisville Slugger said:
The one person on the Saints roster who may benefit from Reggie Bush's absence could be Lance Moore. Moore has been very productive in the Saints offense in the past, but had lost many of his looks/targets to Bush. I think it's possible that Moore recieves many of the short to intermediate passes that Bush has been getting the last couple of years.
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Still, Reggie wasn't exactly a consistent performer either. Outside of Brees, there's just too much variance from week-to-week in the Saints' passing game. Usually high performing, but who performs is a crapshoot.
 
Brant said:
Still, Reggie wasn't exactly a consistent performer either. Outside of Brees, there's just too much variance from week-to-week in the Saints' passing game. Usually high performing, but who performs is a crapshoot.
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There's two guys now who will get more looks with Bush out. Everyone knows about Lance Moore, but another one to keep an eye on is second TE Dave Thomas. That makes it a little harder for Moore ... because Bush's looks won't all get force-fed to him.
 
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Doug B said:
Brant said:
Still, Reggie wasn't exactly a consistent performer either. Outside of Brees, there's just too much variance from week-to-week in the Saints' passing game. Usually high performing, but who performs is a crapshoot.
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There's two guys now who will get more looks with Bush out. Everyone knows about Lance Moore, but another one to keep an eye on is second TE Dave Thomas. That makes it a little harder for Moore ... because Bush's looks won't all get force-fed to him.
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I would add Pierre Thomas receptions (PPR) to that list.
 
Help me out here, why Lance Moore? Becuase of more WR looks or is he going to line up in the backfield on 3'd down?

 
I think coach Payton will involve Lance Moore and PT for the short stuff that Reggie got. PT is the obvious bump here though. Dont sleep on back up Chris Ivory either, PT is a beast but you know from last season how coach Sean Payton feels about distributing the load between running backs. He cant afford to lose both Bush and PT for extended time and Ivory was every bit the talk of the RB's in the preseason. Just keep him on your radar for now Bush and PT owners.

 
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The Ref said:
Help me out here, why Lance Moore? Becuase of more WR looks or is he going to line up in the backfield on 3'd down?
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History, Bush has been out before and Moores numbers have always been high as a result. He is a very good route runner and a sure handed WR. He doesnt miss many catches.
 
Just posted this elsewhere, good info:

In 2008, Reggie Bush missed weeks 8-12.

Here is Lance Moore's stat lines for those games (and the games before + after these are mediocre at best when Bush was IN lineup)

wk8 6-90-1

wk10 6-76-1

wk 11 8-102-1

wk 12 5-115-2

 
The Ref said:
Help me out here, why Lance Moore? Becuase of more WR looks or is he going to line up in the backfield on 3'd down?
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Lance Moore and Reggie Bush generally work the same area of the field in the passing game.
 
bushisdaman said:
I think coach Payton will involve Lance Moore and PT for the short stuff that Reggie got. PT is the obvious bump here though. Dont sleep on back up Chris Ivory either, PT is a beast but you know from last season how coach Sean Payton feels about distributing the load between running backs. He cant afford to lose both Bush and PT for extended time and Ivory was every bit the talk of the RB's in the preseason. Just keep him on your radar for now Bush and PT owners.
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I thought Ivory was hurt?I just grabbed Moore in one league.
 
The Ref said:
Help me out here, why Lance Moore? Becuase of more WR looks or is he going to line up in the backfield on 3'd down?
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He won't be in the backfield, he just gets on the field a lot more now. The Saints will use more singleback 3 WR or 2 TE sets now. So if he is open Drew will get him the ball.
 
PitBoss55 said:
Just posted this elsewhere, good info:In 2008, Reggie Bush missed weeks 8-12.Here is Lance Moore's stat lines for those games (and the games before + after these are mediocre at best when Bush was IN lineup)wk8 6-90-1wk10 6-76-1wk 11 8-102-1wk 12 5-115-2
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These were the numbers I was looking for when I traded a back up te for Lance Moore last night. There is some real potential here.None of the other wr's work in the same part of the field that Moore does.
 
I get it, agree with it but I have one problem. Yesterday Mooore went zero catches for zero yards with zero targets. Even with Bush's absense can it really be that much of a bump?

 
HULLOBUDMAN said:
I get it, agree with it but I have one problem. Yesterday Mooore went zero catches for zero yards with zero targets. Even with Bush's absense can it really be that much of a bump?
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When you have a wr getting regular pt with a qb who throws for about 300 yards a game I'd say yes, it can be a pretty hefty bump.
 
Moore helped me win a lot of games last time Reggie went down. I'm fairly confident he can be a consistent 5 catch receiver for the next few games.

 
Nero said:
He won't be in the backfield, he just gets on the field a lot more now. The Saints will use more singleback 3 WR or 2 TE sets now.
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The latter could impact Moore because when Moore did well in 2008 David Thomas wasn't on the team. Thomas has been a solid option in the passing game for the Saints so it's possible he becomes a factor now with Bush out. Instead of Moore gobbling up the Bush receptions like he did in 2008, perhaps Thomas gets a piece of the pie too, reducing Moore's potential.
 
I thought the same thing about moore being the major beneficiary with Bush down. I'd pick him up if I had the room. We have small benches.

 
I sincerely hope Moore can step up in RB's absence, I need an explosive #4 WR. I bought into the Gaffney hype and I dropped Gaffney for Moore this week. I'm gonna keep Moore on my bench this week and see what happens.

 
packersfan said:
Nero said:
He won't be in the backfield, he just gets on the field a lot more now. The Saints will use more singleback 3 WR or 2 TE sets now.
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The latter could impact Moore because when Moore did well in 2008 David Thomas wasn't on the team. Thomas has been a solid option in the passing game for the Saints so it's possible he becomes a factor now with Bush out. Instead of Moore gobbling up the Bush receptions like he did in 2008, perhaps Thomas gets a piece of the pie too, reducing Moore's potential.
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I'm glad you finally said it, packersfan. PLUS, Meachem was not nearly as good or experienced back then. The options in personnel and more and diverse now compared to 2 years ago.
 
I would temper my excitement for Moore here. Big difference between what he did in 2008 and now is he was pretty heavily involved in the offense before, during and after Reggie's injury most of which was a reslut of Colton's injury opening up a chance for him. Contrast that to now when he's getting minimal involvement. I think he may see an extra target or two on average but remain skeptical he'll be worth starter consideration.

 
menobrown said:
I would temper my excitement for Moore here. Big difference between what he did in 2008 and now is he was pretty heavily involved in the offense before, during and after Reggie's injury most of which was a reslut of Colton's injury opening up a chance for him. Contrast that to now when he's getting minimal involvement. I think he may see an extra target or two on average but remain skeptical he'll be worth starter consideration.
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This is the right perspective. And I'm a fan of Moore, think he has had bad luck with his injury last year allowing guys like Meachem and Henderson to step up. Back in 2008, he WAS the offense. He has spikes in games every now and then, and maybe he has one soon...but I think that would be coincidental compared to "no Bush = more Moore".
 
Louisville Slugger said:
The one person on the Saints roster who may benefit from Reggie Bush's absence could be Lance Moore. Moore has been very productive in the Saints offense in the past, but had lost many of his looks/targets to Bush. I think it's possible that Moore recieves many of the short to intermediate passes that Bush has been getting the last couple of years.
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Why him more than Henderson, Meachem, or Pierre Thomas?
 
menobrown said:
I would temper my excitement for Moore here. Big difference between what he did in 2008 and now is he was pretty heavily involved in the offense before, during and after Reggie's injury most of which was a reslut of Colton's injury opening up a chance for him. Contrast that to now when he's getting minimal involvement. I think he may see an extra target or two on average but remain skeptical he'll be worth starter consideration.
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:goodposting:
 
Look, nobody is saying to do anything more than potentially snag him for the end of your roster. I think he's got just as much upside as anyone else floating around on most waiver wires like James Jones, Greg Camarillo, Josh Morgan, DHB, and Jordan Shipley.

Those are the guys he is right around as far as owned percentage on CBS.

 
Louisville Slugger said:
The one person on the Saints roster who may benefit from Reggie Bush's absence could be Lance Moore. Moore has been very productive in the Saints offense in the past, but had lost many of his looks/targets to Bush. I think it's possible that Moore recieves many of the short to intermediate passes that Bush has been getting the last couple of years.
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:thumbup: Many thanks to this post -- would'nt have thought to put Moore in my lineup this week without it. It's times like these that I love these boards.
 
Wow. He's on fire. Glad I scooped and started him. I bet this is his best game of the season though and people will be chasing this kind of success until Bush gets back.

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
added him but didnt start him :hot:
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me too. but it would have been a bad idea to start him this week unless your other options are bad. Im just happy to have him on the bench as he looks to be great value going forward.
 
Moore and Shockey look like the early beneficiaries of Bush's injury. Moore was insane today but Shockey had one of his best games since joining the Saints.

 
PinkydaPimp said:
Leeroy Jenkins said:
added him but didnt start him :hot:
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me too. but it would have been a bad idea to start him this week unless your other options are bad. Im just happy to have him on the bench as he looks to be great value going forward.
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Added him and started him over Mike Thomas. Both FBG projection sets, as well as CBS, had him as the better play and his numbers without Bush had been great so I went with it. Dont see why it 'would have been a bad idea to start him'... not everyone is stacked at WR (and we have to start 3).
 
TWP said:
PinkydaPimp said:
Leeroy Jenkins said:
added him but didnt start him :wall:
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me too. but it would have been a bad idea to start him this week unless your other options are bad. Im just happy to have him on the bench as he looks to be great value going forward.
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Added him and started him over Mike Thomas. Both FBG projection sets, as well as CBS, had him as the better play and his numbers without Bush had been great so I went with it. Dont see why it 'would have been a bad idea to start him'... not everyone is stacked at WR (and we have to start 3).
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i said it would be a bad idea if your other options were bad. i think we agree. nicks is my wr3 and for me i couldn't justify starting him. benching someone productive would have been quite risky.
 
norgay said:
Louisville Slugger said:
The one person on the Saints roster who may benefit from Reggie Bush's absence could be Lance Moore. Moore has been very productive in the Saints offense in the past, but had lost many of his looks/targets to Bush. I think it's possible that Moore recieves many of the short to intermediate passes that Bush has been getting the last couple of years.
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:wall: Many thanks to this post -- would'nt have thought to put Moore in my lineup this week without it. It's times like these that I love these boards.
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Unbelievable prognostication. Well done!
 
Abstract said:
I sincerely hope Moore can step up in RB's absence, I need an explosive #4 WR. I bought into the Gaffney hype and I dropped Gaffney for Moore this week. I'm gonna keep Moore on my bench this week and see what happens.
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I bet you are feeling the same pain as I am... I dropped Maclin to pick up Moore who sat on my bench. Though perhaps I am feeling a bit more. I lost by 4 points while watching AJ and J Best leave the field early.
 
Native said:
norgay said:
Louisville Slugger said:
The one person on the Saints roster who may benefit from Reggie Bush's absence could be Lance Moore. Moore has been very productive in the Saints offense in the past, but had lost many of his looks/targets to Bush. I think it's possible that Moore recieves many of the short to intermediate passes that Bush has been getting the last couple of years.
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:confused: Many thanks to this post -- would'nt have thought to put Moore in my lineup this week without it. It's times like these that I love these boards.
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Unbelievable prognostication. Well done!
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Yeah Louisville Slugger really hit the ball out of the park with that one! :thanks:
 
The Audible (Sigmund Bloom) put out the word of Lance Moore's bigger role in the offense a week ago. I started him thanks to Mr. Bloom.

 
He did nothing in week 2. Was he even on the field?

It's tough to gauge a Saint's WR potential. One week he's non-existent, the next he's #1.

Is he worth the gamble as a WR3 or Flex?

 
skillz said:
Native said:
norgay said:
Louisville Slugger said:
The one person on the Saints roster who may benefit from Reggie Bush's absence could be Lance Moore. Moore has been very productive in the Saints offense in the past, but had lost many of his looks/targets to Bush. I think it's possible that Moore recieves many of the short to intermediate passes that Bush has been getting the last couple of years.
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:pickle: Many thanks to this post -- would'nt have thought to put Moore in my lineup this week without it. It's times like these that I love these boards.
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Unbelievable prognostication. Well done!
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Yeah Louisville Slugger really hit the ball out of the park with that one! :lmao:
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Your welcome :pickle:
 
Thumper said:
PitBoss55 said:
Just posted this elsewhere, good info:In 2008, Reggie Bush missed weeks 8-12.Here is Lance Moore's stat lines for those games (and the games before + after these are mediocre at best when Bush was IN lineup)wk8 6-90-1wk10 6-76-1wk 11 8-102-1wk 12 5-115-2
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These were the numbers I was looking for when I traded a back up te for Lance Moore last night. There is some real potential here.None of the other wr's work in the same part of the field that Moore does.
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Heard something along these lines on XM 147 radio. I remember driving and really paying attention after hearing the #s Moore puts up in Bush's absence, and I could have sworn they sounded better when spoken as opposed to on paper/forum!I'm monitoring Aromashodu's performance tonight, and depending on his targets/performance I may sub him out for Moore at my WR5 spot.
 
Moore will be beastly in the right matchup. Look for an opponent that can stay with New Orleans on the score board aka Atlanta.Also the Atlanta run defense was fairly good while they have a weaker secondary. I am not so sure Moore will be used to this extent against the Panthers but if you don't have other good options how can you bench him? I hope to grab him off of waivers but I am still debating whether or not to drop Tolbert in order to do it.

 
I still think this guy will be hit and miss now that everyone has seen what happened yesterday. He will have a big game here and there but can you count on this every single week with the way Brees usually spreads the ball around? Next week it will be Henderson, then it will be Colston, then Meachem, you just never really know.

 
bushisdaman said:
Moore will be beastly in the right matchup. Look for an opponent that can stay with New Orleans on the score board aka Atlanta.Also the Atlanta run defense was fairly good while they have a weaker secondary. I am not so sure Moore will be used to this extent against the Panthers but if you don't have other good options how can you bench him? I hope to grab him off of waivers but I am still debating whether or not to drop Tolbert in order to do it.
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Chargers fan says ditch the FB and go with moore. Either way, they are both temporary fixes - Mathews comes back and tolbert gets 5 carries a game... MAYBE. Seems like moore will have a good month to 2 months of relevance while reggie's bone unbreaks itself.
 
munygon2 said:
I still think this guy will be hit and miss now that everyone has seen what happened yesterday. He will have a big game here and there but can you count on this every single week with the way Brees usually spreads the ball around? Next week it will be Henderson, then it will be Colston, then Meachem, you just never really know.
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Its about your role in the offense, Moores role has increased...I scooped him, because he is on a high powered offense and is getting opportunities....and I don't know if its just me, but Colston just don't look right. No explosion of the line and not running good routes, I hope his knee is not a problem, because he is underperforming big time.oh, btw, Meachem has not been seeing the field much and Henderson can not catch. Moore for the time being is the guy.
 
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