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Guy has done this before - had a big game. He never seems to do much of anything consistently, though. Andre Johnson is clearly No. 1. I think jacoby Jones has more talent than Walter.

Why the rush to add this guy? I mean, he'll probably go 3-28, 0 TDs this week and for the next 3 weeks. It will probably take him that long to match those numbers from this past Sunday.

 
Walter does seem to be one of the many WRs in the league who is just a tease. You don't start him, he goes for 132 and a TD. You start him and he doesn't even get targeted. I believe this is known as Lee Evans-itis.

He did have most of his production when AJ was out of the game for a spell, IIRC.

 
bweiser said:
Guy has done this before - had a big game. He never seems to do much of anything consistently, though. Andre Johnson is clearly No. 1. I think jacoby Jones has more talent than Walter. Why the rush to add this guy? I mean, he'll probably go 3-28, 0 TDs this week and for the next 3 weeks. It will probably take him that long to match those numbers from this past Sunday.
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If you have D.A. from CHI as one of your bench WR's... or bought into the Jabbar Gaffney hype and have him (or Danny Amendola from STL)... who else is 'hot' WR to take a flier on? WW is pretty thin in week 2... Add to this his QB just put up ~500 yards in one game and prior to that the O lit up IND... they're looking like a pretty powerhouse O... that's usually who I like to target w/guys I pick up. I think taking a flier on him can't hurt if you're not giving up anything to do it.
 
bweiser said:
montana_grizzly_bears said:
Most likely because Johnson came up limping during the game And Walter is the one to replace him.
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Is he? How has he done in the past if Johnson was out? Has it even happened? I actually think Jones would be the one to get. But that's just me.
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Walter has performed well when Andre has missed time. The most consistent streak of his career was when Johnson missed time in with a knee injury a couple years back. If Johnson is out for any extended period of time both Walter and Jones will share the niumber 1 position like they share the number 2. Neither will be consistent and a comfortable start (assuming AJ health), but as bye week fliers or 4th starters in large leagues both of their risk reward is good. BTW, Jones is not a more talented WR, better pure speed/quickness yes. Everything else Walter is clearly more skilled.
 
bweiser said:
Guy has done this before - had a big game. He never seems to do much of anything consistently, though. Andre Johnson is clearly No. 1. I think jacoby Jones has more talent than Walter. Why the rush to add this guy?I mean, he'll probably go 3-28, 0 TDs this week and for the next 3 weeks. It will probably take him that long to match those numbers from this past Sunday.
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You are correct in your assessment. Those rushing to add him have likely never owned him.
 
Austin Collie goes off ->>> mad rush.

Kevin Walter goes off --->>> nada?

I don't know.

I have picked up Walter before and he has been a great spot starter and WR3. He won't solve your WR problems but he can help with byes. I like him more when Daniels is down or limited as he is now, too.

And yes, I remember him filling in extremely well when AJ was out a couple years ago.

 
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The love-child of Kevin Walter and Kevin Curtis could have one 23/493/5 game per season and still finish under 1000k.

 
Brant said:
bweiser said:
Raider Nation said:
floods said:
The love-child of Kevin Walter and Kevin Curtis could have one 23/493/5 game per season and still finish under 1000k.
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One of these guys will be Patrick Jeffers sooner or later. One 1,000 yard season. Useless before and after.
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Jeffers or Drew Bennett. No Ed McCaffery.
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Don Beebe. For you young 'uns, look him up.
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:blackdot:I also love how various announcers and analysts always describe white defensive players (normally LBs) as throwback players.
 
If Jones is so much more talented, why does Walter keep him on the bench every year?

Walter is a solid player. I have no idea what his ceiling is, but his situation is pretty favorable. I guess there's an outside chance that this could be his Steve Breaston/Brandon Stokley/TJ Houshmandzadeh year where the stars align and he tops 1000+ yards as a secondary target in a dynamic passing offense.

 
EBF said:
If Jones is so much more talented, why does Walter keep him on the bench every year?Walter is a solid player. I have no idea what his ceiling is, but his situation is pretty favorable. I guess there's an outside chance that this could be his Steve Breaston/Brandon Stokley/TJ Houshmandzadeh year where the stars align and he tops 1000+ yards as a secondary target in a dynamic passing offense.
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I guess its because its been a dynamic pass offense for a couple of years now and he hasn't done much of anything on a consistent basis. Maybe this is his year. If it is, it will probably be on someone else's fantasy team.
 
I dropped Jacoby Jones last night to pick up Kevin Walter. I drafted Jones to try and compete as a WR3 on my team, thinking he would be the Texans WR2. It looks to me like the WR2 is still Walter. For whatever reason, Shaub looks to him more over Jones. FWIW, I put in a claim for Demaryius Thomas and lost, so Walter was my 2nd choice of who could replace Jones on my roster.

 
pghrob said:
I dropped Jacoby Jones last night to pick up Kevin Walter. I drafted Jones to try and compete as a WR3 on my team, thinking he would be the Texans WR2. It looks to me like the WR2 is still Walter. For whatever reason, Shaub looks to him more over Jones. FWIW, I put in a claim for Demaryius Thomas and lost, so Walter was my 2nd choice of who could replace Jones on my roster.
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Jones will make you sorry you did this. This guy is explosive and will end the season far better than Walter. I'll refresh this thread at season's end. :houstonhomer:
 
I usually don't get too excited when a guy like Walter puts up huge numbers in a game when 2 QB's throw for almost 1,000 yards. He's a good WR, who is very inconsistent and will never be anything more than a decent bye week fill in.

 
pghrob said:
I dropped Jacoby Jones last night to pick up Kevin Walter. I drafted Jones to try and compete as a WR3 on my team, thinking he would be the Texans WR2. It looks to me like the WR2 is still Walter. For whatever reason, Shaub looks to him more over Jones. FWIW, I put in a claim for Demaryius Thomas and lost, so Walter was my 2nd choice of who could replace Jones on my roster.
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Jones has 15 targets and 8 catchesWalter has 13 targets and 13 catches

 
floods said:
The love-child of Kevin Walter and Kevin Curtis could have one 23/493/5 game per season and still finish under 1000k.
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Don Beebe and Patrick Jeffers would be jealousETA: Damn, you guys crushed me to the punch
 
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Walter does this every year and the discussion of he and Jones comes up each time as well. As mentioned already, Walter is extremely inconsistent. He will have games where he goes off and then has dry spells for the next few weeks until you bench him and that week he'll go off again.

With a healthy Daniels, the Houston WR2 is at best the third option in the passing game and possibly the fourth option depending upon the RB. That plus the two of them sharing snaps does not bode well for a startable wide receiver in your lineup.

FWIW Walter is the far superior run blocker as well, so that's one big reason he's out there on top of other elements already mentioned.

 
Darryl Talley said:
I dropped Jacoby Jones this week. Same ol' story in Houston.He was my WR5 anyway.
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Seems like an odd decision after a 6 catch with a TD performance.I didn't see the whole game but didn't Walter make most of his hay after AJ went out of the game?
 
they've only played 2 games people.

Game 1 - Jones was targeted more

Game 2 - Walter was targeted more

I think it may take a little time to see how this shakes out.

Does anybody know a site that tracks the number of snaps each player is getting?

 
Once Owen Daniels is completely back (played ~60 snaps last week), what is the normal pecking order then after AJ? Will Daniels be the clear #2 and then Walter/Jones/Foster?

 
Kevin Walter belongs on a roster.

In 2007 he was the 36th overall wr in non-PPR. In most leagues, he would be on a roster.

In 2008, he was wr 19. That is an excellent wr 3- despite his inconsistency.

Last year he was brutal wr-64.

THis year, he is doing well, and Schaub looks better than ever while the D looks suspect. He will be greatly aided by a legit running game and play action (Andre Johnson needs no such help.)

If he is available, and you aren't trying to pick him up- you are nuts.

 
Another good but not great game for Walter. Johnson is hurt again, so more of the offense will fall on him next week if AJ can't go.

3 for 34 and 1 TD. meh. Very mediocre in my league (3 points per TD). 12 points in a ppr ... nothing to get excited about, but solid WR3 performance.

 
MrTwo94 said:
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pghrob said:
I dropped Jacoby Jones last night to pick up Kevin Walter. I drafted Jones to try and compete as a WR3 on my team, thinking he would be the Texans WR2. It looks to me like the WR2 is still Walter. For whatever reason, Shaub looks to him more over Jones. FWIW, I put in a claim for Demaryius Thomas and lost, so Walter was my 2nd choice of who could replace Jones on my roster.
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Jones will make you sorry you did this. This guy is explosive and will end the season far better than Walter. I'll refresh this thread at season's end. :houstonhomer:
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If you are a Houston homer then you should know that Jones is an inferior WR to Walter. Sure, he is a little quicker with some fun moves, but Walter is just solid all around. He's a great blocker, runs good routes, and has consistent hands. You can't say any of those things about Jacoby. Jacoby just looks more appealing to fantasy players. When you are trying to win football games, you play Kevin Walter. He's a hard worker with a team first attitude. I don't think Jones is a lazy, selfish guy but Walter just stands out in those areas.
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:confused: Love the This guy is explosive schtick, like he's just discovered hydrogen. Pretty sure most folks realized he was explosive when he ran back multiple kicks for TDs in the 2007 preseason.

Jones possesses blazing speed and certainly showed substantial improvement in 2009, but his upside seems to be that of a deep threat, given the other options on short and intermediate routes (a healthy Daniels and Walter). Jones is a talented young wide receiver, but I've never bought the hype he was a 2010 breakout candidate at the position.

 
Pretty sure he didnt have a catch til the 4th qtr and ended up with what he had. If AJ remains hurt he could become a nice plug and play or bye week filler but I wouldnt go as far as playing him every week.

 
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Raider Nation said:
floods said:
The love-child of Kevin Walter and Kevin Curtis could have one 23/493/5 game per season and still finish under 1000k.
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One of these guys will be Patrick Jeffers sooner or later. One 1,000 yard season. Useless before and after.
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:confused:Other than the fact they're both white, there's very little in common between Kevin Walter and Kevin Curtis. Walter is a BIG receiver whereas Curtis is a water bug. Curtis isn't in the league. And oh by the way, Curtis already had "one 1,000-yard season" in 2007.
 
Would anyone drop MSW for him? Seriously. I don't see any way I can play a guy like that. Big bye week coming, maybe Walter has at least a chance to do something every week with that offense. You could do worse...

 
BoerumHill said:
MrTwo94 said:
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pghrob said:
I dropped Jacoby Jones last night to pick up Kevin Walter. I drafted Jones to try and compete as a WR3 on my team, thinking he would be the Texans WR2. It looks to me like the WR2 is still Walter. For whatever reason, Shaub looks to him more over Jones. FWIW, I put in a claim for Demaryius Thomas and lost, so Walter was my 2nd choice of who could replace Jones on my roster.
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Jones will make you sorry you did this. This guy is explosive and will end the season far better than Walter. I'll refresh this thread at season's end. :houstonhomer:
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If you are a Houston homer then you should know that Jones is an inferior WR to Walter. Sure, he is a little quicker with some fun moves, but Walter is just solid all around. He's a great blocker, runs good routes, and has consistent hands. You can't say any of those things about Jacoby. Jacoby just looks more appealing to fantasy players. When you are trying to win football games, you play Kevin Walter. He's a hard worker with a team first attitude. I don't think Jones is a lazy, selfish guy but Walter just stands out in those areas.
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:popcorn: Love the This guy is explosive schtick, like he's just discovered hydrogen. Pretty sure most folks realized he was explosive when he ran back multiple kicks for TDs in the 2007 preseason.

Jones possesses blazing speed and certainly showed substantial improvement in 2009, but his upside seems to be that of a deep threat, given the other options on short and intermediate routes (a healthy Daniels and Walter). Jones is a talented young wide receiver, but I've never bought the hype he was a 2010 breakout candidate at the position.
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Jones had 5 for 51 yesterday and has 20 targets on the season (13 catches).Walter had 3 for 34 and a score yesterday and has 17 targets on the season (16 catches).

It would be surprising if they didn't finish the year with very similar numbers.

 
One advantage about Walter (or at least I think this is how it would break) is it seems that when AJ goes down Schaub begins to key in on Walter more. So if AJ goes down for an extended period of time I think it's possible (possible) that Walter outproduces Jones and puts up WR#1 numbers or close to it.

 
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