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Game Thread W4 - Denver V Tennessee (1 Viewer)

I am so glad we have Maroney.... :confused:

Runs the wrong play on 1st down and loses 4 yards and then drops the pass on the 3rd down play. :goodposting:

 
Courtjester said:
I am so glad we have Maroney.... :( Runs the wrong play on 1st down and loses 4 yards and then drops the pass on the 3rd down play. :thumbdown:
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2nd series--2nd carry of the game and he loses 2 yards and fumbles the ball (the refs called him down however). McDaniels pulled him out and put C.Buck in and he promptly loses a yards on his 1st carry.Broncos rushing 3 carries -5 yards.Orton may have 60 attempts on this day---assuming they don't keep going 3 and out....
 
Orton may not survive this game--sacked already 3 times in the 1st quarter.

37 total yards for Denver in the 1st and Tenn should be winning running away, but between the fumbles and missed FG the score somehow 0-0.

 
Chris Johnson doesn't look like he has that extra gear early on, or maybe he is just dancing to much at line

 
TD-Royal!!

Boy is Chuck Cecil Tenn D--Coach, going to get a HUGE fine from the NFL. He just flipped the bird at the refs right on national tv right as the cameras are on him.

Vern Lundquist, "And Chuck Cecil is upset at that call....."WOOOOAAAHH, Cecil gives the Hawaiian peace sign to the refs." :lmao:

 
Ringer with a 54 yard run for Tenn,

CJ is just fine, just resting that play

TD Britt for Tenn.

 
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For those that care. Denver had Demaryius Thomas back on that Kickoff return--he took it for 37 yards.

This just in Maroney really really sucks. He just dropped another pass after getting stopped for negative yards on the previous attempt. Even the announces are commenting how disinterested he seems to be in this game--zero effort.

 
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Denver's making a much bigger effort to get Lloyd involved all over the field. He's been spending most of the game going over the middle, and Denver just threw their 3rd screen pass to him of the first half. Lloyd owners should be very excited.

 
Does this game remind Denver fans at all of the Jacksonville game? Doing just enough to let Tennessee tie the game up at half. Why can't the defense or special teams get a stop when it needs to?

 
Nice 41 yard play to Royal after another 4 yard loss by Maroney..

Ooohhh and as I am typing this he just lost another 4 yards.

7 rushes -4 yards on the day and 2 dropped passes.

 
I don't get how a team could consistently have such bad special teams for an entire decade.

 
Looks like Den is missing Moreno. Maroney & C-Buck are surely not the answer.

Maroney has neg. rushing yds.

 
I has no idea Thomas was going to return kicks. He already has 124 return yards. I wonder if this is a permanent move?

 
Going for it on 4th down was absolutely the right call. If you kick the field goal, you still have to get a stop and score again. If you go for it and miss, you still have to get a stop and score again. Either way, you've gotta score again. You're going to find few better situations than 4th and inches in the red zone, so go for it.

 
SSOG said:
Going for it on 4th down was absolutely the right call. If you kick the field goal, you still have to get a stop and score again. If you go for it and miss, you still have to get a stop and score again. Either way, you've gotta score again. You're going to find few better situations than 4th and inches in the red zone, so go for it.
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I disagree. You take the points. Your defense is playing well. Your offense is moving the ball. You have ZERO ZERO ZERO success in the red zone this year. You take the points and kickoff. Stop them and then you just have to drive 30-40 yards to kick a game winning FG.Total ego, BS move.
 
I give McDaniels a ton of flak, and he deserves a lot of it, but that Ayers pick is looking really strong right now. I hated it at the time, but Ayers has been a monster against the run and has been generating solid pressure, to boot. If he can keep it up, he's going to make a strong OLB tandem with Dumervil next season.

Courtjester said:
SSOG said:
Going for it on 4th down was absolutely the right call. If you kick the field goal, you still have to get a stop and score again. If you go for it and miss, you still have to get a stop and score again. Either way, you've gotta score again. You're going to find few better situations than 4th and inches in the red zone, so go for it.
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I disagree. You take the points. Your defense is playing well. Your offense is moving the ball. You have ZERO ZERO ZERO success in the red zone this year. You take the points and kickoff. Stop them and then you just have to drive 30-40 yards to kick a game winning FG.Total ego, BS move.
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I really couldn't disagree more. QB sneaks have an 80+% success rate. If the FG doesn't tie it or take the lead, you go for it instead of kicking in that situation. Even if it was the wrong decision (and I obviously don't think it was), it wasn't an "ego move", it was a "score the game-winning TD move".
 
No problem. Vince Young can drive them down the field.

Way to screw it up Vince Young. :football:

 
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Jabar Gaffney owners have to at least enjoy the fact that Gaffney was targeted twice in the endzone within the last couple of plays. One of them would have been a long bomb if not for PI.

 
SSOG said:
I give McDaniels a ton of flak, and he deserves a lot of it, but that Ayers pick is looking really strong right now. I hated it at the time, but Ayers has been a monster against the run and has been generating solid pressure, to boot. If he can keep it up, he's going to make a strong OLB tandem with Dumervil next season.

Courtjester said:
SSOG said:
Going for it on 4th down was absolutely the right call. If you kick the field goal, you still have to get a stop and score again. If you go for it and miss, you still have to get a stop and score again. Either way, you've gotta score again. You're going to find few better situations than 4th and inches in the red zone, so go for it.
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I disagree. You take the points. Your defense is playing well. Your offense is moving the ball. You have ZERO ZERO ZERO success in the red zone this year. You take the points and kickoff. Stop them and then you just have to drive 30-40 yards to kick a game winning FG.Total ego, BS move.
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I really couldn't disagree more. QB sneaks have an 80+% success rate. If the FG doesn't tie it or take the lead, you go for it instead of kicking in that situation. Even if it was the wrong decision (and I obviously don't think it was), it wasn't an "ego move", it was a "score the game-winning TD move".
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Well you are completely wrong, but we won't have to debate that because of the Buck TD. Now Denver needs to just hold....
 
Courtjester said:
SSOG said:
Going for it on 4th down was absolutely the right call. If you kick the field goal, you still have to get a stop and score again. If you go for it and miss, you still have to get a stop and score again. Either way, you've gotta score again. You're going to find few better situations than 4th and inches in the red zone, so go for it.
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I disagree. You take the points. Your defense is playing well. Your offense is moving the ball. You have ZERO ZERO ZERO success in the red zone this year. You take the points and kickoff. Stop them and then you just have to drive 30-40 yards to kick a game winning FG.Total ego, BS move.
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coaches go for it WAY less than they should mcdaniels is one of the few guys that has it right
 
Courtjester said:
Well you are completely wrong, but we won't have to debate that because of the Buck TD. Now Denver needs to just hold....
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You seem awfully certain of that. You got any support for that position outside of your gut?I see four possible outcomes of that situation.#1- Kick the field goal and make it#2- Kick the field goal and miss it#3- go for it and make it#4- go for it and miss it.Situation #2 and #4 are essentially identical (actually, situation #4 is ever so slightly better because Tennessee has worse starting field position), so it then becomes a question of how likely is situation #1 and how likely is situation #3.Matt Prater has an 85% career conversion percentage from that distance (it would have been a 30 yarder, and Prater has hit 80% from 29-30 and 90% from 30-40). Meanwhile, as I said, I'd suspect that QB sneaks have at least 85% success rate on 4th and inches (I'd love to see data on this if anyone has it, but from what I've seen the play is essentially unstoppable). So, both situation #1 and situation #3 would be pretty equally likely. Maybe situation #1 is slightly more likely, but either way it's pretty close, and the outcome of situation #3 is SUBSTANTIALLY more valuable. Hugely so."Taking the points" is all well and good, but I really and truly believe that a statistical look at the decision would show that Josh McDaniels easily made the right call. McDaniels takes a lot of crap (and I sling my fair share of it), but any criticism of that decision is, in my opinion, wholly undeserved.
 
Great game. Orton is just playing out of his mind. The next 2 games are really, really tough. Hopefully Moreno is back because 17 yards rushing is not going to get it done.

 
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