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Why do we have team defenses in Fantasy Football? (1 Viewer)

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Seems to only add to the randomness of the game. I'm just sayin.The top 10 defenses in my league:

1.Packers...842.Cardinals...73 F/A3.Raiders...73 F/A4.Titans...705.Lions...65 F/A6.Bears...627.Giants...618.Chargers...59 F/A9.Redskins...58 F/A10.Steelers...58
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While I understand that the Top 200 is a "here on out" projection, it's damn near impossible to gauge defenses with a reasonable degree of certainty. Do we expect the Steelers and Giants to move WAY up and for the Cards and Raiders to fall off the charts that by the end of the season? :moneybag:
 
wide left said:
Seems to only add to the randomness of the game. I'm just sayin.The top 10 defenses in my league:

1.Packers...842.Cardinals...73 F/A3.Raiders...73 F/A4.Titans...705.Lions...65 F/A6.Bears...627.Giants...618.Chargers...59 F/A9.Redskins...58 F/A10.Steelers...58
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While I understand that the Top 200 is a "here on out" projection, it's damn near impossible to gauge defenses with a reasonable degree of certainty. Do we expect the Steelers and Giants to move WAY up and for the Cards and Raiders to fall off the charts that by the end of the season? :goodposting:
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This is why IDP is the only way to go for fantasy football.
 
Jedi Knight said:
wide left said:
Seems to only add to the randomness of the game. I'm just sayin.The top 10 defenses in my league:

1.Packers...842.Cardinals...73 F/A3.Raiders...73 F/A4.Titans...705.Lions...65 F/A6.Bears...627.Giants...618.Chargers...59 F/A9.Redskins...58 F/A10.Steelers...58
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While I understand that the Top 200 is a "here on out" projection, it's damn near impossible to gauge defenses with a reasonable degree of certainty. Do we expect the Steelers and Giants to move WAY up and for the Cards and Raiders to fall off the charts that by the end of the season? :thumbdown:
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This is why IDP is the only way to go for fantasy football.
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how so? my experience with IDP is that on any given week you can find a 20 FAs off the waiver wire that will put up as much or more than your starter - it's a crap shoot from week to week.
 
MarcO said:
Jedi Knight said:
This is why IDP is the only way to go for fantasy football.
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how so? my experience with IDP is that on any given week you can find a 20 FAs off the waiver wire that will put up as much or more than your starter - it's a crap shoot from week to week.
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That's only true if most of the owners in a league are half-a##ing their IDP management, or if you only start a couple of players. In a 12 team league, 6 IDP is a good start, maybe 8 if you want to thin the waiver wire even more.IDP production is more volatile over the course of a season, but it isn't a "crap shoot" as you say. Owners who do the most research can be rewarded with an IDP core that potentially doubles the weekly points total of another owner who is just grabbing at straws and starting the Safety who got lucky last week with a Pick 6.But I really don't know why I'm bothering to type this since the OP is just making fun of the Kicker thread.
 
I agree with both these points and would love to find a league with no K/def. I've been thinking that for years, but have never found one. Kickers and defenses add to chance part of fantasy football and diminish the skill involved. I would like to see a league with a lineup of QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 flex, TE.

 
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LittlePhatty said:
MarcO said:
Jedi Knight said:
This is why IDP is the only way to go for fantasy football.
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how so? my experience with IDP is that on any given week you can find a 20 FAs off the waiver wire that will put up as much or more than your starter - it's a crap shoot from week to week.
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That's only true if most of the owners in a league are half-a##ing their IDP management, or if you only start a couple of players. In a 12 team league, 6 IDP is a good start, maybe 8 if you want to thin the waiver wire even more.IDP production is more volatile over the course of a season, but it isn't a "crap shoot" as you say. Owners who do the most research can be rewarded with an IDP core that potentially doubles the weekly points total of another owner who is just grabbing at straws and starting the Safety who got lucky last week with a Pick 6.But I really don't know why I'm bothering to type this since the OP is just making fun of the Kicker thread.
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I am in a 12 team 8 IDP starters league and it is very challenging on the WW.
 
I get huge points/year every year on my defense picks. I don't think they're random at all. They have some of the most predictable matchups in the game imo.

 
johnnyboy8102 said:
LittlePhatty said:
MarcO said:
Jedi Knight said:
This is why IDP is the only way to go for fantasy football.
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how so? my experience with IDP is that on any given week you can find a 20 FAs off the waiver wire that will put up as much or more than your starter - it's a crap shoot from week to week.
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That's only true if most of the owners in a league are half-a##ing their IDP management, or if you only start a couple of players. In a 12 team league, 6 IDP is a good start, maybe 8 if you want to thin the waiver wire even more.IDP production is more volatile over the course of a season, but it isn't a "crap shoot" as you say. Owners who do the most research can be rewarded with an IDP core that potentially doubles the weekly points total of another owner who is just grabbing at straws and starting the Safety who got lucky last week with a Pick 6.But I really don't know why I'm bothering to type this since the OP is just making fun of the Kicker thread.
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I am in a 12 team 8 IDP starters league and it is very challenging on the WW.
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Because there are more IDP starters than offensive starters, the trick is to have more IDP starters. In our league, we have 10 IDP starters vs. 7 offensive starters. The other trick is to make IDP scoring equivalent to offensive scoring so that a top LB or DB is equal to a top WR or RB. We also have a special teams positions that combines Kickers, return yardage and punting and scores roughly equivalent to the other starters.
 
RushHour said:
Once you play IDP, it's very hard to go back to a league with team defenses.
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I played in IDP and I hate it. The scoring usually doesn't justify having them and I prefer only having to research the skill players on offense. Pretty soon you become inundated with data and it reduces your effectiveness as a ff owner. Plus, you have to make time for family sometime.
 
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