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So Keiland Williams has a monster night last night, both IRL and fantasy. Did he play himself into the starting job? Does Torain get the job when he comes back? Or is it going to be some Shanny-rific three-headed RBBC roulette? Any help is appreciated.

 
DC area homer here (despite being a Cowboys fan, I get inundated with glorious (eyes rolling) DC area sports talk insight). Despite his great performance last night, Williams will be #3 going forward for the Skins. Portis was close to coming back last night, and Torain was thought to be ready to play last night, but was held out in the final hour. I think it's unclear whether the main guy will be Portis or Torain going forward, but barring injury, it won't be Williams. Don't forget that James Davis was recently signed and is only on the practice squad now, but from what I here Shanny is optimistic about his future (whatever that means), but he could muddy the waters further in the coming weeks. All in all, I'd stay away from this situation.

 
Yea, not too sure about the future here. Hard to predict week to week. HOWEVER... :wall: I had to yank Beanie Wells at the last minute, and one of the only guys on the waivers that was worth a shot at was Keiland..so I picked him up, and I went in to last night's game 15 points down in the league where I played him. I didn't think I had a shot at 15 points with Keiland, but he blew up for 30+ points in my league and I won easily. So..I'm happy :D But I doubt I start him again. Might try and find an owner who sees the big game and wants to take the gamble on him.

 
Yea, not too sure about the future here. Hard to predict week to week. HOWEVER... :) I had to yank Beanie Wells at the last minute, and one of the only guys on the waivers that was worth a shot at was Keiland..so I picked him up, and I went in to last night's game 15 points down in the league where I played him. I didn't think I had a shot at 15 points with Keiland, but he blew up for 30+ points in my league and I won easily. So..I'm happy :) But I doubt I start him again. Might try and find an owner who sees the big game and wants to take the gamble on him.
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What are the thoughts here going forward for Dynasty? Are we looking at Portis/Torain/Williams/Davis next year as well? If not, who has the leg up on the competition in 2011?

 
DC area homer here (despite being a Cowboys fan, I get inundated with glorious (eyes rolling) DC area sports talk insight). Despite his great performance last night, Williams will be #3 going forward for the Skins. Portis was close to coming back last night, and Torain was thought to be ready to play last night, but was held out in the final hour. I think it's unclear whether the main guy will be Portis or Torain going forward, but barring injury, it won't be Williams. Don't forget that James Davis was recently signed and is only on the practice squad now, but from what I here Shanny is optimistic about his future (whatever that means), but he could muddy the waters further in the coming weeks. All in all, I'd stay away from this situation.
I believe that this is correct, however an advantage that Williams has over the other RB's is that he's the best receiver out of the backfield. He'll see the field with the offense more than most #3's, though Portis will often be in there (too?) given his blitz pickup abilities - Keiland is weak in that area. Keiland is a competent RB with little upside there. If the line makes holes for him than he'll get 4 yards per carry and be able to move the offense, with little ability to bust 20+ yard carries due to lack of breakaway speed.
 
Keiland is a competent RB with little upside there. If the line makes holes for him than he'll get 4 yards per carry and be able to move the offense, with little ability to bust 20+ yard carries due to lack of breakaway speed.
:) It appeared to me that the Eagles weren't exactly giving maximum effort on Keiland's long TD run. He just isn't that talented. He was ok last night, but I wouldn't use last night's numbers as any prediction for what he would do in a full time starter role.
 
Yea, not too sure about the future here. Hard to predict week to week. HOWEVER... :loco: I had to yank Beanie Wells at the last minute, and one of the only guys on the waivers that was worth a shot at was Keiland..so I picked him up, and I went in to last night's game 15 points down in the league where I played him. I didn't think I had a shot at 15 points with Keiland, but he blew up for 30+ points in my league and I won easily. So..I'm happy :) But I doubt I start him again. Might try and find an owner who sees the big game and wants to take the gamble on him.
Make sure you keep us apprised of this week's waiver wire escapade.
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Keiland reminds of Q. Ganther or Laddell betts and I bring that up just because Shanny and/or the Skins obviously didn't see that as a viable option for where they were headed. Portis has his value because of everything he does well in real life EXCEPT run the ball at this point. Torain took about 4 weeks to show why he can't be depended on. So, at the end of the day, it looks like a true crap shoot for the rest of the year and I am guessing that James Davis will get an opportunity near the year's finale. I would say that there is a good chance that the Redskins will have multiple backs next year and that the best one of the bunch isn't on the team right now. So, looking into my crystal ball:

Week 11: Torain/Williams

Week 12: Torain/Portis

Week 13: Torain/Portis

Week 14: Torain/Portis/Williams

Week 15: Portis/Williams/Davis

Week 16: Portis/Davis *Davis is a fantasy factor

Week 17: Davis/Portis

2011: Pierre Thomas or a rookie is brought in. Davis is the 2nd guy. Torain is rostered.

Portis and Williams gone.

 
DC area homer here (despite being a Cowboys fan, I get inundated with glorious (eyes rolling) DC area sports talk insight). Despite his great performance last night, Williams will be #3 going forward for the Skins. Portis was close to coming back last night, and Torain was thought to be ready to play last night, but was held out in the final hour. I think it's unclear whether the main guy will be Portis or Torain going forward, but barring injury, it won't be Williams. Don't forget that James Davis was recently signed and is only on the practice squad now, but from what I here Shanny is optimistic about his future (whatever that means), but he could muddy the waters further in the coming weeks. All in all, I'd stay away from this situation.
a cowboys fan in dc.are you from texas? or just another one of those sheep
 
The Doctor said:
bigmiiiiike said:
DC area homer here (despite being a Cowboys fan, I get inundated with glorious (eyes rolling) DC area sports talk insight). Despite his great performance last night, Williams will be #3 going forward for the Skins. Portis was close to coming back last night, and Torain was thought to be ready to play last night, but was held out in the final hour. I think it's unclear whether the main guy will be Portis or Torain going forward, but barring injury, it won't be Williams. Don't forget that James Davis was recently signed and is only on the practice squad now, but from what I here Shanny is optimistic about his future (whatever that means), but he could muddy the waters further in the coming weeks. All in all, I'd stay away from this situation.
a cowboys fan in dc.are you from texas? or just another one of those sheep
guess i hit the nail on the head :mellow:
 
Hear we go again :rolleyes:

Ryan Torain indicated after Monday night's game that he will have to see a doctor about his hamstring injury this week.

Clinton Portis says he's "50-50" to play this week, and Torain may be no better. Neither back will be capable of managing a heavy workload while playing at far less than full speed. We're tentatively expecting Keiland Williams to get the call again this week at Tennessee. Pick him up as a potential RB2 option if he's available on waivers in your league.

Source: CBSSports.com

Related: Clinton Portis, Keiland Williams

Given the scarcity of Wash RB's I would not be suprised if J.Davis is activated Wed off practice squad....

By the way who was that Young kid who got carries...he looked pretty stout.

 
Hear we go again :popcorn: Ryan Torain indicated after Monday night's game that he will have to see a doctor about his hamstring injury this week.Clinton Portis says he's "50-50" to play this week, and Torain may be no better. Neither back will be capable of managing a heavy workload while playing at far less than full speed. We're tentatively expecting Keiland Williams to get the call again this week at Tennessee. Pick him up as a potential RB2 option if he's available on waivers in your league. Source: CBSSports.com Related: Clinton Portis, Keiland Williams Given the scarcity of Wash RB's I would not be suprised if J.Davis is activated Wed off practice squad....By the way who was that Young kid who got carries...he looked pretty stout.
what did he do during the bye week?
 
The Doctor said:
bigmiiiiike said:
DC area homer here (despite being a Cowboys fan, I get inundated with glorious (eyes rolling) DC area sports talk insight). Despite his great performance last night, Williams will be #3 going forward for the Skins. Portis was close to coming back last night, and Torain was thought to be ready to play last night, but was held out in the final hour. I think it's unclear whether the main guy will be Portis or Torain going forward, but barring injury, it won't be Williams. Don't forget that James Davis was recently signed and is only on the practice squad now, but from what I here Shanny is optimistic about his future (whatever that means), but he could muddy the waters further in the coming weeks. All in all, I'd stay away from this situation.
a cowboys fan in dc.are you from texas? or just another one of those sheep
Ran into a guy in DC last night right before the game...told him he had the wrong jacket on (he was wearing a skins something or other). He starts to talking about "I'm born and raised here blah blah blah....so I simply told him to open his mind and pick a team that HE likes and not a team that all of his neighbors/uncles great aunt/cousins stepsister have rooted for since 1960. He had nothing else to say after that. If your demographics are the only tangible that factors into you picking a team, be wise and keep that info to yourself.

 
Torain appears to be holding true to his fragile history. Seeing a specialist this week to check out his hammy, good lord. Torain pretty much has no value at this point, still regret not trading him when I could

 
Shutout said:
Keiland reminds of Q. Ganther or Laddell betts and I bring that up just because Shanny and/or the Skins obviously didn't see that as a viable option for where they were headed.
I was thinking the same thing during the game last night. There is nothing special about Williams' RB ability. He is an average talent that works hard and, regarding last night, was simply in the right place at the right time.And for those that may just be looking at the final numbers when saying Williams had a great game, he was 7/21 rushing with a long of 4 in the first half. He was only 6/17 with a long of 4 before the Eagles were already up 35-0. He, and the OL, did nothing when it mattered.

 
zamboni said:
frogpond11 said:
Yea, not too sure about the future here. Hard to predict week to week. HOWEVER... :confused: I had to yank Beanie Wells at the last minute, and one of the only guys on the waivers that was worth a shot at was Keiland..so I picked him up, and I went in to last night's game 15 points down in the league where I played him. I didn't think I had a shot at 15 points with Keiland, but he blew up for 30+ points in my league and I won easily. So..I'm happy :yes: But I doubt I start him again. Might try and find an owner who sees the big game and wants to take the gamble on him.
Make sure you keep us apprised of this week's waiver wire escapade.
me too.actually, i dont care. NOBODY DOES.
 
With Torain gimpy again and reports about Portis suffering a setback last week, it sure looks like Williams is the play for at least Week 11 if not longer.

 
I'm trying to decide if there's any point in holding Torain. He has made me miss out on several quality WW pickups taking up a roster spot. My trade deadline is this week and he now has zero value. Should have sold high as soon as he was named starter.

 
bigmiiiiike said:
DC area homer here (despite being a Cowboys fan, I get inundated with glorious (eyes rolling) DC area sports talk insight). Despite his great performance last night, Williams will be #3 going forward for the Skins. Portis was close to coming back last night, and Torain was thought to be ready to play last night, but was held out in the final hour. I think it's unclear whether the main guy will be Portis or Torain going forward, but barring injury, it won't be Williams. Don't forget that James Davis was recently signed and is only on the practice squad now, but from what I here Shanny is optimistic about his future (whatever that means), but he could muddy the waters further in the coming weeks. All in all, I'd stay away from this situation.
actually, i don't think this is true at all because...
Hear we go again :thumbup: Ryan Torain indicated after Monday night's game that he will have to see a doctor about his hamstring injury this week.Clinton Portis says he's "50-50" to play this week, and Torain may be no better. Neither back will be capable of managing a heavy workload while playing at far less than full speed. We're tentatively expecting Keiland Williams to get the call again this week at Tennessee. Pick him up as a potential RB2 option if he's available on waivers in your league. Source: CBSSports.com Related: Clinton Portis, Keiland Williams Given the scarcity of Wash RB's I would not be suprised if J.Davis is activated Wed off practice squad....By the way who was that Young kid who got carries...he looked pretty stout.
...of this.
 
FWIW, Dodds has Keiland Williams ranked as a RB1 for this week. If Williams does start, I'm seriously considering starting him over Cedric Benson, even with Benson's great matchup.

 
SARCASM, ohhhhh it never gets old.

zamboni said:
frogpond11 said:
Yea, not too sure about the future here. Hard to predict week to week. HOWEVER... :lmao: I had to yank Beanie Wells at the last minute, and one of the only guys on the waivers that was worth a shot at was Keiland..so I picked him up, and I went in to last night's game 15 points down in the league where I played him. I didn't think I had a shot at 15 points with Keiland, but he blew up for 30+ points in my league and I won easily. So..I'm happy :) But I doubt I start him again. Might try and find an owner who sees the big game and wants to take the gamble on him.
Make sure you keep us apprised of this week's waiver wire escapade.
 
FWIW, Dodds has Keiland Williams ranked as a RB1 for this week. If Williams does start, I'm seriously considering starting him over Cedric Benson, even with Benson's great matchup.
yeah, i saw that too and it really raised my eyebrows. i'm curious if he will adjust that at all today or tomorrow, but i suppose in light of torain's injury and portis saying he's 50/50 at best, it does make some sense. he also has williams as a RB32 going forward, well ahead of torain (RB42).
 
The Skins RB situation is that they need one. Not much chance any of these RBs will pull off a 10+ yard run or go 20+ on a screen pass. With Skins RBs, a good day is a couple of short yardage TDs.

 
The Doctor said:
bigmiiiiike said:
DC area homer here (despite being a Cowboys fan, I get inundated with glorious (eyes rolling) DC area sports talk insight). Despite his great performance last night, Williams will be #3 going forward for the Skins. Portis was close to coming back last night, and Torain was thought to be ready to play last night, but was held out in the final hour. I think it's unclear whether the main guy will be Portis or Torain going forward, but barring injury, it won't be Williams. Don't forget that James Davis was recently signed and is only on the practice squad now, but from what I here Shanny is optimistic about his future (whatever that means), but he could muddy the waters further in the coming weeks. All in all, I'd stay away from this situation.
a cowboys fan in dc.are you from texas? or just another one of those sheep
Ran into a guy in DC last night right before the game...told him he had the wrong jacket on (he was wearing a skins something or other). He starts to talking about "I'm born and raised here blah blah blah....so I simply told him to open his mind and pick a team that HE likes and not a team that all of his neighbors/uncles great aunt/cousins stepsister have rooted for since 1960. He had nothing else to say after that. If your demographics are the only tangible that factors into you picking a team, be wise and keep that info to yourself.
I'm quite sure that demographics play a role in whom the majority of fans root for. Unless you are suggesting that the 80,000 that pack the stadium in Arlington moved there simply because they were Cowboy fans. :hifive:
 
They upped Davis' salary just to keep the Panthers from signing him.

If this season keeps spiraling out of control, you are going to see A LOT of Williams and Davis in the coming weeks, and not so much of Torain and Portis...

 
killrobotkill said:
So Keiland Williams has a monster night last night, both IRL and fantasy. Did he play himself into the starting job? Does Torain get the job when he comes back? Or is it going to be some Shanny-rific three-headed RBBC roulette? Any help is appreciated.
The best advice I can offer is that you shouldn't need to bother with any of it now that bye weeks are over. Injuries + Shanahan = avoid if at all possible.As for Williams, I wouldn't read much in to what he did on Monday night. All of his good plays happened once the game was out of reach and the Eagles D was playing soft. When the game was still on the line in the first quarter, he went nowhere.
 
Ok, so any chance Keiland becomes Arian Foster light next year?

Lots of similarities:

Both UFAs

Shanny = Kubiak and all that comes with it -> they both know how to maximize their run attack, neither will use a very high pick (read 1st rounder) on a RB

Keiland wasn't a fumbler as I recall (not sure) as much as Foster was

Also in Keiland's favor, the Skins have traded away a lot of their mid rounders further reinforcing the fact that he won't face any serious rookie competition

On the negative side:

Foster had better production in college and was a featured back at various points

Keiland, like most LSU backs, was an RBBC back right up until the very end when Charles Scott got injured

Keiland doesn't look nearly as good as Foster running the ball, though I don't remeber how Foster ran as a rookie last year

 
KW is a decent RB the way that Chicago's Chester Taylor is a decent RB. He does the fundamentals ok and doesn't have many weak spots however the problem with KW is he doesn't do anything or any one thing great. Portis is the better blocker and receiver and Torain is faster. KW's value forward depends on two things imo:

Injuries

James Davis

If Torain is out for another week then KW's the guy to benifit this week. Portis being out for any length of time also helps KW but Portis coming back really hurts him because even if you think KW is the better receiver which he is not, Portis would be in on passing downs as an extra blocker. Saying Torain is out for some time doesn't mean that the teams going to just hand the ball to KW when you have James Davis on the team as well. If Davis is the faster player and gets the eye of the coach then if Torain is out that could very well open the door for Davis to be promoted and given carries. If everyone was healthy today I still believe the most carries goes to Torain this year.

The wild card in the race is Davis. If he is given a chance and does well with it I don't see there being a need for KW. I think the coaches are evaluating every thing and should we learn that Torain and Portis are out again and they don't bring up Davis then thats a huge bump to KW and he's the RB you want to own this year. If they bring Davis up then the value needs to be reexamined after the games played

 
The Doctor said:
bigmiiiiike said:
DC area homer here (despite being a Cowboys fan, I get inundated with glorious (eyes rolling) DC area sports talk insight). Despite his great performance last night, Williams will be #3 going forward for the Skins. Portis was close to coming back last night, and Torain was thought to be ready to play last night, but was held out in the final hour. I think it's unclear whether the main guy will be Portis or Torain going forward, but barring injury, it won't be Williams. Don't forget that James Davis was recently signed and is only on the practice squad now, but from what I here Shanny is optimistic about his future (whatever that means), but he could muddy the waters further in the coming weeks. All in all, I'd stay away from this situation.
a cowboys fan in dc.are you from texas? or just another one of those sheep
Ran into a guy in DC last night right before the game...told him he had the wrong jacket on (he was wearing a skins something or other). He starts to talking about "I'm born and raised here blah blah blah....so I simply told him to open his mind and pick a team that HE likes and not a team that all of his neighbors/uncles great aunt/cousins stepsister have rooted for since 1960. He had nothing else to say after that. If your demographics are the only tangible that factors into you picking a team, be wise and keep that info to yourself.
I'm quite sure that demographics play a role in whom the majority of fans root for. Unless you are suggesting that the 80,000 that pack the stadium in Arlington moved there simply because they were Cowboy fans. :P
 
FBG has Williams top20 this week and I think I'm on board. In fact I know I am as I grabbd Williams off waivers in one of my short roster leagues. He might only be solid for week 11 but for many that are scraping and clawing to get into the playoffs he will make a decent RB2/flex play this week. What's good is he can catch the ball so you have a 2 way threat. Washington is terrible the last 2-3 weeks so if the game gets out of hand again Williams will remain in the football game. Hard to usually find that on a waiver wire.

He's getting his shot to play for something maybe even next year on a different team so there's real money in this for Williams.

 
I'm mildly surprised by his ranking this week and am now thinking about starting him over Greene/Tolbert.

I really didn't think he looked that good but I'm no scout.

 
He should be a good start this week and possibly going forward. Just hate to trust the RAT.

Ryan Torain, RB, Washington Redskins Wednesday 11/17, 3:30 PM CT

Rich Campbell reports that Ryan Torain (knee) sat out Redskins practice on Wednesday.

Our View: Torain's value continues to plummet, as his injury coupled with the breakout of Keiland Williams makes it highly unlikely that he'll return as the Redskins No. 1 running back any time soon. At this point, he's barely worth holding onto in shallower leagues.

 
SARCASM, ohhhhh it never gets old.

Yea, not too sure about the future here. Hard to predict week to week. HOWEVER... :) I had to yank Beanie Wells at the last minute, and one of the only guys on the waivers that was worth a shot at was Keiland..so I picked him up, and I went in to last night's game 15 points down in the league where I played him. I didn't think I had a shot at 15 points with Keiland, but he blew up for 30+ points in my league and I won easily. So..I'm happy :) But I doubt I start him again. Might try and find an owner who sees the big game and wants to take the gamble on him.
Make sure you keep us apprised of this week's waiver wire escapade.
:thumbup: If someone posts a :blackdot: nobody says anything, even though there's no valuable info with it. But if someone posts something about their team that's relevant to the topic, some people make it their mission to post a snarky reply. So much for being excellent to each other.
 
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SARCASM, ohhhhh it never gets old.

Yea, not too sure about the future here. Hard to predict week to week. HOWEVER... :) I had to yank Beanie Wells at the last minute, and one of the only guys on the waivers that was worth a shot at was Keiland..so I picked him up, and I went in to last night's game 15 points down in the league where I played him. I didn't think I had a shot at 15 points with Keiland, but he blew up for 30+ points in my league and I won easily. So..I'm happy :) But I doubt I start him again. Might try and find an owner who sees the big game and wants to take the gamble on him.
Make sure you keep us apprised of this week's waiver wire escapade.
:thumbup: If someone posts a :blackdot: nobody says anything, even though there's no valuable info with it. But if someone posts something about their team that's relevant to the topic, some people make it their mission to post a snarky reply. So much for being excellent to each other.
I always thought this thing: :) Was the way to bump a thread so more people could speak about the topic if they wanted. To me that symbol does have meaning but then again maybe that thing means something else? I agree with you, people being cool to one another is the better way to go
 
I always thought this thing:

:thumbup:

Was the way to bump a thread so more people could speak about the topic if they wanted. To me that symbol does have meaning but then again maybe that thing means something else? I agree with you, people being cool to one another is the better way to go
Actually it's a marker for people who just want to follow a thread. It used to be that when you posted in a thread, a black dot would show up by the topic when looking over all the board topics. That's why the "blackdot" smilie got created. With these boards now, though, instead of a black dot we get a white corner (That's why some people will post :sehorn: )ETA: It's explained in the FFA FAQ.

 
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I always thought this thing:

:thumbup:

Was the way to bump a thread so more people could speak about the topic if they wanted. To me that symbol does have meaning but then again maybe that thing means something else? I agree with you, people being cool to one another is the better way to go
Actually it's a marker for people who just want to follow a thread. It used to be that when you posted in a thread, a black dot would show up by the topic when looking over all the board topics. That's why the "blackdot" smilie got created. With these boards now, though, instead of a black dot we get a white corner (That's why some people will post :sehorn: )ETA: It's explained in the FFA FAQ.
Heh the black dot would be so much cooler to see that you posted in a thread then the white corner imo, thanks for the information. I don't get why would someone want to "follow" a thread though. What purpose does that do? Is it simply to identify the thread or is it a bookmark to know where they stopped reading?
 
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I always thought this thing:

:towelwave:

Was the way to bump a thread so more people could speak about the topic if they wanted. To me that symbol does have meaning but then again maybe that thing means something else? I agree with you, people being cool to one another is the better way to go
Actually it's a marker for people who just want to follow a thread. It used to be that when you posted in a thread, a black dot would show up by the topic when looking over all the board topics. That's why the "blackdot" smilie got created. With these boards now, though, instead of a black dot we get a white corner (That's why some people will post :sehorn: )ETA: It's explained in the FFA FAQ.
Heh the black dot would be so much cooler to see that you posted in a thread then the white corner imo, thanks for the information. I don't get why would someone want to "follow" a thread though. What purpose does that do? Is it simply to identify the thread or is it a bookmark to know where they stopped reading?
A good example would be a thread discussing the injury status of a player you own. You may not have anything to contribute and just want to be able to scan down through the threads and see that one right away.
 
DC area homer here (despite being a Cowboys fan, I get inundated with glorious (eyes rolling) DC area sports talk insight). Despite his great performance last night, Williams will be #3 going forward for the Skins. Portis was close to coming back last night, and Torain was thought to be ready to play last night, but was held out in the final hour. I think it's unclear whether the main guy will be Portis or Torain going forward, but barring injury, it won't be Williams. Don't forget that James Davis was recently signed and is only on the practice squad now, but from what I here Shanny is optimistic about his future (whatever that means), but he could muddy the waters further in the coming weeks. All in all, I'd stay away from this situation.
a cowboys fan in dc.are you from texas? or just another one of those sheep
Ran into a guy in DC last night right before the game...told him he had the wrong jacket on (he was wearing a skins something or other). He starts to talking about "I'm born and raised here blah blah blah....so I simply told him to open his mind and pick a team that HE likes and not a team that all of his neighbors/uncles great aunt/cousins stepsister have rooted for since 1960. He had nothing else to say after that. If your demographics are the only tangible that factors into you picking a team, be wise and keep that info to yourself.
Are you serious? I always thought that rooting for one's "home team" was part of the essence of being a sports fan. I mean, if you are from Dallas and just moved to D.C. for work or something, then rooting for the Cowboys makes all the sense in the world. But if you grew up in D.C. and root for the Cowboys instead, chances are you are just someone "rooting for a winner" beginning back when the Cowboys were good. I mean, why the Cowboys. Why not the Rams or the Lions? What are you basing your decision on, if not geographic proximity? "I always liked how they played" = "They always won, so I started rooting for them so I can talk smack and look better than others..."
 
DC area homer here (despite being a Cowboys fan, I get inundated with glorious (eyes rolling) DC area sports talk insight). Despite his great performance last night, Williams will be #3 going forward for the Skins. Portis was close to coming back last night, and Torain was thought to be ready to play last night, but was held out in the final hour. I think it's unclear whether the main guy will be Portis or Torain going forward, but barring injury, it won't be Williams. Don't forget that James Davis was recently signed and is only on the practice squad now, but from what I here Shanny is optimistic about his future (whatever that means), but he could muddy the waters further in the coming weeks. All in all, I'd stay away from this situation.
a cowboys fan in dc.are you from texas? or just another one of those sheep
Ran into a guy in DC last night right before the game...told him he had the wrong jacket on (he was wearing a skins something or other). He starts to talking about "I'm born and raised here blah blah blah....so I simply told him to open his mind and pick a team that HE likes and not a team that all of his neighbors/uncles great aunt/cousins stepsister have rooted for since 1960. He had nothing else to say after that. If your demographics are the only tangible that factors into you picking a team, be wise and keep that info to yourself.
Are you serious? I always thought that rooting for one's "home team" was part of the essence of being a sports fan. I mean, if you are from Dallas and just moved to D.C. for work or something, then rooting for the Cowboys makes all the sense in the world. But if you grew up in D.C. and root for the Cowboys instead, chances are you are just someone "rooting for a winner" beginning back when the Cowboys were good. I mean, why the Cowboys. Why not the Rams or the Lions? What are you basing your decision on, if not geographic proximity? "I always liked how they played" = "They always won, so I started rooting for them so I can talk smack and look better than others..."
I just think it's a slap to a fathers face. I'm guessing a lot of us grew up watching the games with our dad's and learned to love them through him.
 
DC area homer here (despite being a Cowboys fan, I get inundated with glorious (eyes rolling) DC area sports talk insight). Despite his great performance last night, Williams will be #3 going forward for the Skins. Portis was close to coming back last night, and Torain was thought to be ready to play last night, but was held out in the final hour. I think it's unclear whether the main guy will be Portis or Torain going forward, but barring injury, it won't be Williams. Don't forget that James Davis was recently signed and is only on the practice squad now, but from what I here Shanny is optimistic about his future (whatever that means), but he could muddy the waters further in the coming weeks. All in all, I'd stay away from this situation.
a cowboys fan in dc.are you from texas? or just another one of those sheep
Ran into a guy in DC last night right before the game...told him he had the wrong jacket on (he was wearing a skins something or other). He starts to talking about "I'm born and raised here blah blah blah....so I simply told him to open his mind and pick a team that HE likes and not a team that all of his neighbors/uncles great aunt/cousins stepsister have rooted for since 1960. He had nothing else to say after that. If your demographics are the only tangible that factors into you picking a team, be wise and keep that info to yourself.
And yet you stayed in the same division and went for "America's Team". Way to boldly forge your own path!
 
Keiland reminds of Q. Ganther or Laddell betts and I bring that up just because Shanny and/or the Skins obviously didn't see that as a viable option for where they were headed.
I was thinking the same thing during the game last night. There is nothing special about Williams' RB ability. He is an average talent that works hard and, regarding last night, was simply in the right place at the right time.And for those that may just be looking at the final numbers when saying Williams had a great game, he was 7/21 rushing with a long of 4 in the first half. He was only 6/17 with a long of 4 before the Eagles were already up 35-0. He, and the OL, did nothing when it mattered.
Up until the last couple of years Betts had higher top end speed. I also think that, while Williams is a good receiver, Betts was better. Betts was deadly on wheel routes.
 
Just my opnion but I think this Washington RB situation can win some teams the championship this year (like Charles and Harrison did last year) provided there is one RB for the playoffs because with Washington playing: TB, @Dallas, @Jax a healthy RB carrying the load would be projected to be top ten in each of those weeks I'd estimate. Not saying that it will be Williams or even that Shanny won't be up to his usual trick, but it's worth taking a shot on one (or more) of these guys cuz it looks like the upside is there.

 
I always thought that rooting for one's "home team" was part of the essence of being a sports fan. I mean, if you are from Dallas and just moved to D.C. for work or something, then rooting for the Cowboys makes all the sense in the world. But if you grew up in D.C. and root for the Cowboys instead, chances are you are just someone "rooting for a winner" beginning back when the Cowboys were good. I mean, why the Cowboys. Why not the Rams or the Lions? What are you basing your decision on, if not geographic proximity? "I always liked how they played" = "They always won, so I started rooting for them so I can talk smack and look better than others..."
A pretty good theory I've heard about the native DC people who like Dallas...The Redskins were the last NFL team to integrate when they traded for Bobby Mitchell in 1962. Redskins owner George Preston Marshall was generally considered to be a racist. Obviously, that wouldn't exactly sit well with the large African American community in Washington, DC. So, through the 60s, which was obviously a big time for race issues, many people started rooting for the Cowboys. They started their rise in the 60s and became the Redskins biggest rival. A large group of people gravitated to the Cowboys during that time and then likely raised their kids as Cowboys fans while still living in the DC area.Based on personal observation, I think this theory works. I work in PG County, a predominantly AA county, and see tons of Cowboys fans. Tons of cars with Cowboys flags and stickers. I work with many Cowboys fans. The majority of them are AA. I live in NoVa. Most of the Cowboys fans I know in VA are white and moved to the area from Texas or some other area of the South.
 
I always thought that rooting for one's "home team" was part of the essence of being a sports fan. I mean, if you are from Dallas and just moved to D.C. for work or something, then rooting for the Cowboys makes all the sense in the world. But if you grew up in D.C. and root for the Cowboys instead, chances are you are just someone "rooting for a winner" beginning back when the Cowboys were good. I mean, why the Cowboys. Why not the Rams or the Lions? What are you basing your decision on, if not geographic proximity? "I always liked how they played" = "They always won, so I started rooting for them so I can talk smack and look better than others..."
A pretty good theory I've heard about the native DC people who like Dallas...The Redskins were the last NFL team to integrate when they traded for Bobby Mitchell in 1962. Redskins owner George Preston Marshall was generally considered to be a racist. Obviously, that wouldn't exactly sit well with the large African American community in Washington, DC. So, through the 60s, which was obviously a big time for race issues, many people started rooting for the Cowboys. They started their rise in the 60s and became the Redskins biggest rival. A large group of people gravitated to the Cowboys during that time and then likely raised their kids as Cowboys fans while still living in the DC area.

Based on personal observation, I think this theory works. I work in PG County, a predominantly AA county, and see tons of Cowboys fans. Tons of cars with Cowboys flags and stickers. I work with many Cowboys fans. The majority of them are AA. I live in NoVa. Most of the Cowboys fans I know in VA are white and moved to the area from Texas or some other area of the South.
That's like saying that the sun is generally considered to be hot. Yes, he was a raging racist, and now that you mention this I do believe that there's some truth to this.
 

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