If you are a season ticket holder and Owners continue on there promise of a 2011 - 12 season with Replacement players. As a season ticket holder will you still be obligated to renew your season tickets for that season. Is there some sort of recourse for refusing to pay for an inferior product. Do you think the organization will take away the season ticket holders rights to those seats if they do not renew there tickets.
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I'm pretty sure the owners can't use replacement players in the event of a lockout. The union isn't going on strike. The owners are refusing to allow the players to play without a new CBA (which favors the owners more) being agreed to.
To answer your question, the owners can ask you to pay whatever they want and if you don't pay it you give up rights to those seats and go to the back of the line.
To answer your question, the owners can ask you to pay whatever they want and if you don't pay it you give up rights to those seats and go to the back of the line.
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Godsbrother
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There won't be replacement players if there is a lockout.My Dad was payiong for our season tickets back in 1982 but my recollection is that he was only refunded/credited the unplayed games. The games with replacement players were not refunded.I am paying for them now and the problem is that the cash for next season are due so far in advance (May) that you won't know if there will be a lockout or strike at the time to pay for them.
Captain Hook
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They WON'T
What did you think of that? I saw it only applying to general admission and letting the teams decide how to handle the rest and wondered why Goodell would do that. Can't he gather the owners together and have them agree on a blanket rule?Those seat licenses seemed like gold to the owners and I wonder what some will have up their sleeve.
All 32 teams have de-certified the union. I assume that means they can't strike. When you say there wont be replacement players if there is a lock-out, does that mean there legally can't be or that the owners just won't do it.There won't be replacement players if there is a lockout.My Dad was payiong for our season tickets back in 1982 but my recollection is that he was only refunded/credited the unplayed games. The games with replacement players were not refunded.I am paying for them now and the problem is that the cash for next season are due so far in advance (May) that you won't know if there will be a lockout or strike at the time to pay for them.
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I know it would never happen, but if America rallied and everyone refused to pay for their tickets up front then there would be a season. Never would happen and it is not realistic, but it would be freaking awesome if somehow in this social network society we lived in that something like that would get started and would spread. Owners rely on that for their investments.
It might help some. But most of the money is coming from TV and corporate sponsors, not tickets and merchandising. Until the networks and corporate sponsors squeeze the owners, they will not budge from their position. I don't see the owners budging.
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Ministry of Pain
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There will never be a lockout. The NFL salary cap in 2009 was $128 million. Most teams could operate at that level and turn a profit based on TV revenue and ticket sales alone.In 2010 there is no salary cap but many of the teams are only spending between $90-$100 million for their team rosters. You have to assume that in 2010 the owners are getting just as much if not more form TV revenue and ticket sales. Follow me here because this is the part a lot of fans seem to overlook or turn a blind eye to.
What owners of these teams are going to lock out the players and cut their nose off despite them pocketing anywhere from $20-$40 million extra this past season? The majority of teams did not spend more with no salary cap, most spent less. 
Dallas($150m), Oakland($145m), Minnesota($140+m), those teams are near the top but many like Philly($89m) and Atlanta($90m) are fielding playoff teams while spending $40-$50 million less than other teams. 
Bottom line the owners will tell the players they can show up to work since most are under contract but they are not going to have a CBA in place and they will play 2011 the same as they played 2010.
This stuff makes great media fodder but the reality of it is the owners are not going to pass up the big bucks they make in the NFL. The whole things is proposterous and a scare tactic form all involved that ultimately hurts the fans. Remember that when you are supporting all this nonsense.
footballnerd
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dusting off the cleats atm.....we got at least 11 here, where do we sign up? Pigscab gridiron here i come.
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