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Posted 06 May 2011 - 05:46 PM

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Posted 06 May 2011 - 08:34 PM

Tier 1 1.Adrian Peterson RB MIN AGE:26 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=PET260705 This wasn't a very difficult choice in my opinion,Peterson has been a stud ever since he put on a vikings uniform and barring some horrible injury, I dont see anything changing. One thing to beware of though is last year when the Viking saw they were out of the hunt,Peterson saw a huge drop in touches toward the end of the year : weeks 1-8 = 165 carries(20.65per) weeks 9-17 = 118 carries(13.11per). Not something you like to see if your contending for a championship.So, my only suggestion is if you think the Vikings are an imploding franchise(which im sure a lot of you do), sell high. 2.Chris Johnson RB TENN AGE:25 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=JOH127799 Johnson has an amazing patience/speed combo that really cant be matched by anyone in the league. people considered him a bust last year but im not really sure that is warranted. his YPC took a big drop(5.6 to 4.3) but it seemed that had to do with the fact that the titans (other than britt for a few weeks) didn't really have much around him. The titans were not very subtle about the fact that they were trying to get johnson the ball and it showed in how the defenses schemed against the titans.I do like a bounce back season for johnson this year though. I really like the pick of Jamie harper for depth behind him. Hopefully harper can emerge as a grinder type that can take a few inside carries a game. As much as getting carries taken away is a sensitive subject nowadays, i dont think there is any type of RBBC coming to Tennessee anytime soon. I like Johnson to be a little fresher and bust a few more big runs if everything goes as planned. Johnson is still young and is one of the few studs that can make his situation rather than vise versa. This would definitely be a hold for me in all formats. 3.Jamaal Charles RB KC AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=CHA561428 I dont think there was any guy last year that did more with the touches they got. His amazing vision seems to guide him quickly through holes in the line , even if the play wasn't meant to go in that direction. If their were any questions about Charles coming into last season, they were answered emphatically. I still think Johnson is a little more talented but with a little luck charles could definitely give johnson a run for his money at any point. I realize most people hate the way todd haley uses Charles, but I really dont see it as that much of a negative. sure, he only got 275 touches,but do you really want a guy with charles build getting 350 touches a year? I would say 300 touches is more than enough for charles to put up fantastic numbers and stay fresh the entire year. Moral of the story is, hes 24, has an up and coming situation and ran for 6.4 freaking YPC last year...Hes one of the few studs thats still being undervalued(rather than overvalued) and can be had in most leagues for a reasonable price. Hes a Buy or a hold for me in any format. Tier 2: 4.Darren McFadden RB OAK AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=MCF084974 This guy is a MONSTER. The only guy with a better size/speed combo is Peterson. He can take it to the house at any point and can out run most corners. If he gets by the line hes just about unstoppable. The one concern for me is that the raiders fired tom cable at the end of last year and I know he was a big offensive line guru. They seemed to get a solid push for the most part but I have a feeling there might not be as many wide open holes as there were last year. The other concern is that he has proven to be a bit injury prone. The conclusion I came to with that info is that Mcfadden is setting up for a frank gore type of career path. He will miss a few games each year, but, while hes in there you know your going to get consistent, elite production, which is rare these days. Most people are still wary of buying into McFadden because of his first two years,so he can be had for more than a reasonable price in most leagues. Hes another buy/hold for the fact that he hasn't come close to his ceiling (production-wise). 5.Jonathan Stewart RB CAR AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=STE770966 I see Michael Turner Circa 2008 in Stewart. He has already had two impressive seasons, posting RB2 numbers as the second back in the offense.I think with Deangelo leaving, Stewart has a shot to take stud status and run with it, starting this year. Tier 3 6.Arian Foster RB HOU AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=FOS107404 The biggest surprise from last year for sure. Foster shocked just about all of us with his stellar fantasy numbers and surprising amount of talent. I realize some people look at this ranking and think im crazy(Stewart and McFadden over him), I would just like you to hear me out. First, I do think Foster is a solid talent, Just not an elite one. This being the case and the way the NFL is going nowadays(committee),plus the fact they have something invested in Ben Tate,I think he has a much higher bust chance than the guys listed above. The flip side of this is, if he stays injury free and keeps away from any type of trouble , he has a wonderful situation and could be an elite fantasy back for the next few years. I love him in redraft leagues, I would probably have him ranked second behind Peterson. The moral of the story is that I like him and his situation(hence why i have him ranked six), but, the way I look at dynasties is that being an elite talent is just about the only way you have a chance to keep your workhorse job even after an injury or a slow start. Steve Slaton had an excellent Rookie year and was kicked to the curb after one year , So Houston already has a track record. Ride him as long as hes in charge in Houston, But, IMO you should temper your enthusiasm on his dynasty prospects. 7.Ray Rice RB BAL AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=RIC154451 Ray Rice and Arian Foster go hand in hand to me. They both seemingly (barring injury) have a solid hold on the feature back role for there respective teams. I do like Rice a bit better from a talent stand point and I think he is a better overall player (running between tackles, catching out of the backfield blocking, etc). but, I think fosters situations is better from a fantasy perspective. It just seemed like the texans have so effectively ran the ball the past few years, that no matter who is out there he is going to put up solid numbers. Foster being a solid talent makes that a match made in heaven. The Ravens have a better overall team but it seems the run blocking is lacking a bit compared to the texans. I do like Rice more in PPR and would probably swap him and Stewart if this were based purely on that scoring system. Some people may say this is a little low of a ranking for him but this seems to be right where he belongs IMO. Although Rice ended the year with solid stats, he was very inconsistent from week to week , especially with the amount of carries and touches he was getting. I wouldn't put this on all on Rice, I think it mostly has to do with the Ravens run blocking and the fact that Joe Flacco has yet to put fear in opposing defenses eyes. There is good news for this year , which is that the ravens play the NFC west, This might even out some of the tough match ups like the steelers( lowers his value on these weeks quite a bit). I think Rice is a solid RB1 and is in no danger of losing his job. Knowing that also realize Rice may be a little inconsistent for where you have to draft him in a start up dynasty . Dont avoid him , but dont overpay either 8.Lesean Mccoy RB PHI AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=MCC620232 http://forums.footba...howtopic=550877 9.Maurice Jones Drew RB JAC AGE:26 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=DRE527472 tier 4 10.C.J. Spiller RB BUFF AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=SPI347627 http://forums.footba...howtopic=592915 I think spiller is an elite talent. Elite talents do not come along every year and im very hesitant to take an elite talent( that hasn't gotten a real shot yet) out of my top ten. His situation does look dim right now, but, I have faith that Spillers talent will overcome his situation eventually. It may not even be this year. But thats why these are dynasty rankings. In redraft he would probably be in the 20s somewhere because I think hes a big risk/reward guy. I think his ceiling is so sky high still that im willing to look past last year. Tough to keep him that high but tougher for me to drop him a significant amount on a 74 carry season against one of the toughest schedules in the league. My opinion is that this is a similar situation to Darren McFadden early on. People tossed him to the graveyard after one or two years because his numbers were horrible, completely ignoring that the guy was an elite prospect and a top five pick in the draft. Its not like the Bills are going give up on a top ten pick after one year. I have faith when he gets his opportunity he will flourish. 11.Steven Jackson RB STL AGE:27 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=JAC560875 First things first, Steven jackson is an elite player and the team leader of the St Louis Rams. He is the only guy to run for over a thousand yards in each of the last six years and in those six years he has had over thirty eight catches in all of them(38 catches in 12 games in 2007 and 40 catches in 12 games in 2008). The guy flat out produces no matter the situation and sometimes when he was the only talent on the offense. He has been through the rough times with the Rams and it seems Billy Devaney has finally gotten a solid offense around him. With emerging stud QB Sam Bradford and a much improved offensive line, I see potentially SJax's best season this year, even though he may be declining a bit in talent. He has a lot of miles on his legs, but I think with Spags at the helm and Bradford slinging passes there you can expect a few more solid Rb1 seasons from Jackson. Also, dont be surprised if he gets over 10 TDs this year, I have a feeling hes due. He's a very good goal line runner and hes had an unbelievable TD drought over the past few years. Nice, reliable guy to have on your roster if your competing for a championship this year in all formats. 12.Rashard Mendenhall RB PITT AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=MEN393702 13..Mark Ingram RB NO AGE:21 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=ING656964 14.Matt Forte RB CHI AGE:25 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=FOR645404 Tier 5 15.Ryan Mathews RB SD AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=MAT190010 16.Jahvid Best RB DET AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=BES682260 17.Frank Gore RB SF AGE:27 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=GOR411171 18.Knowshon Moreno RB DEN AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=MOR120768 19.Deangelo Williams RB F/A AGE:28 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=WIL221323 Tier 6 20.Felix Jones RB DAL AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=JON313929 21.Mikel Leshoure RB DET AGE:21 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=LES202930 22.Ryan Williams RB ARZ AGE:21 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=WIL000004 23.Michael Turner RB ATL AGE:29 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=TUR608668 24.Peyton Hillis RB CLE AGE:25 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=HIL734134 25.Ahmad Bradshaw RB NYG:25 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=BRA254359 26.Chris Wells RB ARZ AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=WEL350689 I will admit, I have liked Beanie's talent ever since college(potentially a little biased) and im not quite sure what about him and his style has kept him from being effective thus far. His career is looking dim right now for Arizona, but, I still hold out complete faith that if this guy 'gets it' he has top 10 Dynasty Rb value. I first became enamored with him in his sophomore year at OSU. http://espn.go.com/n...ameId=280070194 The dude went off on a very talented LSU defense as a true sophomore. I'm also a huge Big Ten guy(being a wisconsin fan) and the guy just ran people over when he was in there. I was happy to see him leave, But I was also very excited to see what he could do in the Pros. I realize a lot of people consider him soft and injury prone, but, I love his talent and think he is still young enough and has enough miles left on his legs to have a strong career. This has reminded of a Thomas Jones type of situation to me since the middle of last year. Just looks like this situation isn't going to work out for Wells. I've been wrong before and I'm sure I will be again, but I think Wells is going to have to find a new team and a fresh start before he emerges. Not saying its out of the question that he lays the hammer down this year, but seems unlikely from what has happend so far. The guy can be had right now (Darren Mcfadden style) for a more than reasonable price and if you are willing to wait a year or two (which most of us are not) hes a great guy to have as your RB3 or RB4. Tier 7 27.Alex Green RB GB AGE:21 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=GRE037487 28.Daniel Thomas RB MIA AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=THO092066 29Shonn Greene RB NYJ AGE:25 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=GRE510029 30.LaGarrette Blount RB TB AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=BLO626278 31.Shane Vereen RB NE AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=VER287449 32.Marshawn Lynch RB SEA AGE:25 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=LYN442976 33.James Starks RB GB AGE: http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=STA583786 Tier 8 34.Bilal Powell RB NYJ AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=POW162772 35.Roy Helu RB WAS AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=HEL697773 36.Joseph Addai IND AGE:28 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=ADD152616 I think that Addai has a solid shot to have some redraft value this upcoming season and would definitely be moving up my board depending on how training camp works out. Addai is a very reliable blocker and has solid hands, which is always something teams look for in a running back. He also has the advantage of being in Peyton Manning's offense. I dont think he turned out to be as effective of a runner between the tackles as the colts envisioned selecting him in the first round, But, if he can emerge out of training camp and manage to fight off Donald Brown and Delone Carter i see him putting up solid stats. Being a RB in that offense almost promises a top 20 season for Addai if he stays healthy and I think he is being slightly undervalued right now because hes not flashy. If your looking for a guy thats Inexpensive and has the potential to be a solid RB2 the upcoming year, Addai would be a guy to take a look at. 37.Kendall Hunter RB SF AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=HUN719158 38.Montario Hardesty RB CLE AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=HAR051743 39.Demarco Murray RB DAL AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=MUR580353 40.Bernard Scott RB DAL AGE: http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=SCO000000 http://forums.footba...howtopic=592275 40.Jacquizz Rodgers RB ATL AGE:21 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=ROD369979 41.Delone Carter RB IND AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=CAR642622 42.Cedric Benson RB CIN AGE:28 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=BEN508718 Tier 9 43.Mike Goodson RB CAL AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=GOO579925 44.Ben Tate RB HOU AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=TAT137889 45.Jamie Harper RB AGE:21 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=HAR263558 46.Stevan Ridley RB NE AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=RID658759 47.Taiwan Jones RB OAK AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=JON731670 48.Allen Bradford RB TB AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=BRA094086 The guy to get right now as a sneaky buy low. I realize Blount emerged last year,but, considering he was an undrafted pick up , I'm not sure they have a large amount of loyalty to keep him as a workhorse type of guy. Dont get me wrong either, I dont think Blount is Chopped liver. I fully expect him to take some of the load within the next few years. Just from seeing what Bradford could do in college, It seems like to me he could potentially be an all purpose back at the next level. AT 5'11" 240 pounds, he seems to run faster than what would seem usual for the type of frame he has. Clocking a 4.59 40 is pretty solid for his playing style and it also seems like he may play a bit faster than that time tells. He was not asked to catch the ball at USC(15,00 other backs in the backfield), but , nothing I've seen from him tells me it isn't possible he could develop into a solid dump off guy. I'm not saying That hes going to emerge this year into a top 20 back, I just think Bradford has a shot to develop into a very solid NFL player and with given a good shot with the Bucs and that emerging offense, It could be a very solid combination for years to come. IMO a nice guy to monitor during training camp and have at the end of your bench just in case things fall his way. Who knows He could be one Blount injury and good preseason away from being the starting guy for TB this year. 49.Michael Bush RB OAK AGE:26 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=BUS277873 50.Donald Brown RB IND AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=BRO398445 51.Johnny White RB BUF AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=WHI311455 52.Ryan Torain RB WAS AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=TOR105154 Tier 10 52.Rashad Jennings RB JAC AGE:26 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=JEN587965 53.Ronnie Brown RB MIA AGE:29 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=BRO662745 54.Fred Jackson RB BUF AGE:30 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=JAC173789 55.Tashard Choice RB DAL AGE:26 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=CHO431469 56. Jalene Parmele RB BAL AGE:25 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=PAR593998 57.Jordan Todman RB SD AGE:21 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=TOD628353 58.Mike Tolbert RB SD AGE:25 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=TOL160452 59.Reggie Bush RB NO AGE:26 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=BUS294963 60.Tim Hightower RB ARZ AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=HIG784208 Like thomas, The drafting of a running back early in the draft seems to kill all but any value Hightower had left. He can definitely find a spot on a NFL roster even if the Cardinals let him go, But , the chances hes ever fantasy relevant again seems slim to none. 61.Pierre Thomas RB NO AGE:26 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=THO085535 The drafting of Mark Ingram seems to just about seal Pierre's fate in New Orleans. He is a solid talent and if he lands somewhere nice he could be solid. Unfortunately, guys like this seem to be dime a dozen and most teams are not willing to pay much for them. HIs career seems to be going down a Back up RBBC type of route and I tend to stay away from guys that have limited future upside and limited redraft upside. 62.Ryan Grant RB GB AGE:28 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=GRA497823 I've never really been a big grant fan and now that there are two other RBs competing for carries in GB , The future looks even more dim. I love the situation still and if injuries hit the corps he could still have value for redraft, but, he still has no long term value with the Packers and most likely will be nothing more than a desperate bye week filler this year.

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Posted 06 May 2011 - 09:09 PM

Sell me on Spiller at 10.

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Posted 06 May 2011 - 09:13 PM

Ryan Mathews not in the top 60?
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Posted 06 May 2011 - 09:14 PM

A few points. 1. Peterson's touches dipped because he was injured - even missing a game during that stretch. They are going to feed him the ball. He is as sure a bet for touches as there is. 2. If you are ranking Spiller #10, you must have watched a lot of Clemson football. 3. Stewart is simply too high. The love for this guy is strong. 4. Bradshaw and Hillis are low. What about watching their games prompted their rankings? That said, thanks for the rankings. :thumbup:

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Posted 06 May 2011 - 09:32 PM

Now I've got two threads to discuss Dynasty Rankings in general that's a definite good thing since I don't have the time to do my own. I'll get into them later, but I really like how you've decided to go about it

It's like meeting a beautiful, intelligent, hilarious woman who's not up for oral sex. You've got two choices- give up and leave her, or stay with her and try like hell to talk her into coming to her senses. I've chosen the latter.

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Posted 06 May 2011 - 10:02 PM

Ryan Mathews not in the top 60?

woops! thats what happens when you dont doublecheck your work...ill fix it...i would be putting him in at 15 right in front of best

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Posted 06 May 2011 - 10:31 PM

Sell me on Spiller at 10.

The simple answer is I still think he is an elite talent. Elite talents do not come along every year and im very hesitant to take an elite talent out of my top ten. His situation does look dim right now, but, I have faith that Spillers talent will overcome his situation eventually. It may not even be this year. But thats why these are dynasty rankings. In redraft he would probably be in the 20s somewhere because i think hes a big risk/reward guy. But, I think his ceiling is so sky high still that im willing to look past last year. Tough to keep him that high but tougher for me to drop him a significant amount on a 74 carry season against one of the toughest schedules in the league. My opinion is that this is a similar situation to darren Mcfadden early on. People tossed him to the graveyard after one or two years because his numbers were horrible, completely ignoring that the guy was an elite prospect and a top 5 pick in the draft. Its not like the bills are going give up on a top ten pick after one year. I have faith when he gets his opportunity he will flourish.

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Posted 06 May 2011 - 11:41 PM

Amazing how Stewart still is considered a Tier above Foster and McCoy by many but I love it as people always overdraft him. Good work and I always enjoy how people rank.

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Posted 07 May 2011 - 09:53 AM

McFadden at #4 is gutsy. Last year was very impressive, and his upside is huge, but he has a lot of downside as well.

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Posted 07 May 2011 - 12:20 PM

Baffaling how high you have the rookies.

i dont think its crazy to have one rookie(with a solid situation) to be in the top 19

Ingram, Williams, and Thomas are fine. But Leshoure, Green, Powell, Helu, Hunter, Carter, White, Todman, Jones, Ridley, and Harper aren't.

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Posted 07 May 2011 - 02:18 PM

Baffaling how high you have the rookies.

i dont think its crazy to have one rookie(with a solid situation) to be in the top 19

Ingram, Williams, and Thomas are fine. But Leshoure, Green, Powell, Helu, Hunter, Carter, White, Todman, Jones, Ridley, and Harper aren't.

LOL...your throwing subjective opinions around like they are facts...how in the world do you know yet if they are worthy or not of the spots I put them in? I think your still angry about greg little :excited:

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 03:37 PM

A few points. 1. Peterson's touches dipped because he was injured - even missing a game during that stretch. They are going to feed him the ball. He is as sure a bet for touches as there is. 2. If you are ranking Spiller #10, you must have watched a lot of Clemson football. 3. Stewart is simply too high. The love for this guy is strong. 4. Bradshaw and Hillis are low. What about watching their games prompted their rankings? That said, thanks for the rankings. :thumbup:

1.If thats the reason for peterson's drop in touches then thats a solid bit of info, thanks 3.I may be wrong, But I see Michael Turner Circa 2008 in Stewart.He has already had two impressive seasons, posting RB2 numbers as the second back in the offense.I think with Deangelo leaving ,Stewart has a shot to take stud status and run with it, starting this year. 4. Your right, nothing I've watched has made me move these guys down to the spots they are. Its more the rumblings that the giants are not going to resign Bradshaw and that the Browns are looking to make their RB situation into a committee(with Hardesty). If these guys become feature backs somehow, then I am more than willing to move them up.

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 06:40 PM

What is your reason behind the Spiller and Stewart rankings?

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 06:47 PM

What is your reason behind the Spiller and Stewart rankings?

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 05:02 AM


A few points.

1. Peterson's touches dipped because he was injured - even missing a game during that stretch. They are going to feed him the ball. He is as sure a bet for touches as there is.

2. If you are ranking Spiller #10, you must have watched a lot of Clemson football.

3. Stewart is simply too high. The love for this guy is strong.

4. Bradshaw and Hillis are low. What about watching their games prompted their rankings?

That said, thanks for the rankings. :thumbup:

1.If thats the reason for peterson's drop in touches then thats a solid bit of info, thanks

3.I may be wrong, But I see Michael Turner Circa 2008 in Stewart.He has already had two impressive seasons, posting RB2 numbers as the second back in the offense.I think with Deangelo leaving ,Stewart has a shot to take stud status and run with it, starting this year.

4. Your right, nothing I've watched has made me move these guys down to the spots they are. Its more the rumblings that the giants are not going to resign Bradshaw and that the Browns are looking to make their RB situation into a committee(with Hardesty). If these guys become feature backs somehow, then I am more than willing to move them up.

What rumblings. I live in the area and the rumblings are the complete opposite. Every indication is that the Giantas want Bradshaw back and he wants to come back. I'd say there's little chance that it doesn't work out - the team waited until Round 7 to draft a practice squad type back, further indicating that they plan to resign Bradshaw.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 12:47 PM



A few points.

1. Peterson's touches dipped because he was injured - even missing a game during that stretch. They are going to feed him the ball. He is as sure a bet for touches as there is.

2. If you are ranking Spiller #10, you must have watched a lot of Clemson football.

3. Stewart is simply too high. The love for this guy is strong.

4. Bradshaw and Hillis are low. What about watching their games prompted their rankings?

That said, thanks for the rankings. :thumbup:

1.If thats the reason for peterson's drop in touches then thats a solid bit of info, thanks

3.I may be wrong, But I see Michael Turner Circa 2008 in Stewart.He has already had two impressive seasons, posting RB2 numbers as the second back in the offense.I think with Deangelo leaving ,Stewart has a shot to take stud status and run with it, starting this year.

4. Your right, nothing I've watched has made me move these guys down to the spots they are. Its more the rumblings that the giants are not going to resign Bradshaw and that the Browns are looking to make their RB situation into a committee(with Hardesty). If these guys become feature backs somehow, then I am more than willing to move them up.

What rumblings. I live in the area and the rumblings are the complete opposite. Every indication is that the Giantas want Bradshaw back and he wants to come back. I'd say there's little chance that it doesn't work out - the team waited until Round 7 to draft a practice squad type back, further indicating that they plan to resign Bradshaw.

I've read on a few threads in here that his status in new york was uncertain...if thats not the case then thats a good thing to know. Do you have any links or articles proving this?

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 03:27 PM




A few points.

1. Peterson's touches dipped because he was injured - even missing a game during that stretch. They are going to feed him the ball. He is as sure a bet for touches as there is.

2. If you are ranking Spiller #10, you must have watched a lot of Clemson football.

3. Stewart is simply too high. The love for this guy is strong.

4. Bradshaw and Hillis are low. What about watching their games prompted their rankings?

That said, thanks for the rankings. :thumbup:

1.If thats the reason for peterson's drop in touches then thats a solid bit of info, thanks

3.I may be wrong, But I see Michael Turner Circa 2008 in Stewart.He has already had two impressive seasons, posting RB2 numbers as the second back in the offense.I think with Deangelo leaving ,Stewart has a shot to take stud status and run with it, starting this year.

4. Your right, nothing I've watched has made me move these guys down to the spots they are. Its more the rumblings that the giants are not going to resign Bradshaw and that the Browns are looking to make their RB situation into a committee(with Hardesty). If these guys become feature backs somehow, then I am more than willing to move them up.

What rumblings. I live in the area and the rumblings are the complete opposite. Every indication is that the Giantas want Bradshaw back and he wants to come back. I'd say there's little chance that it doesn't work out - the team waited until Round 7 to draft a practice squad type back, further indicating that they plan to resign Bradshaw.

I've read on a few threads in here that his status in new york was uncertain...if thats not the case then thats a good thing to know. Do you have any links or articles proving this?

It's uncertain because there's no CBA- we don't know if he's going to be restricted or unrestricted, they can't negotiate with him now, etc. The prevailing thought is that he'll be back however, and the fact that the Giants didn't select a RB until the 7th round tells me that they fully plan on re-signing him.

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Posted 11 May 2011 - 06:26 AM




A few points.

1. Peterson's touches dipped because he was injured - even missing a game during that stretch. They are going to feed him the ball. He is as sure a bet for touches as there is.

2. If you are ranking Spiller #10, you must have watched a lot of Clemson football.

3. Stewart is simply too high. The love for this guy is strong.

4. Bradshaw and Hillis are low. What about watching their games prompted their rankings?

That said, thanks for the rankings. :thumbup:

1.If thats the reason for peterson's drop in touches then thats a solid bit of info, thanks

3.I may be wrong, But I see Michael Turner Circa 2008 in Stewart.He has already had two impressive seasons, posting RB2 numbers as the second back in the offense.I think with Deangelo leaving ,Stewart has a shot to take stud status and run with it, starting this year.

4. Your right, nothing I've watched has made me move these guys down to the spots they are. Its more the rumblings that the giants are not going to resign Bradshaw and that the Browns are looking to make their RB situation into a committee(with Hardesty). If these guys become feature backs somehow, then I am more than willing to move them up.

What rumblings. I live in the area and the rumblings are the complete opposite. Every indication is that the Giantas want Bradshaw back and he wants to come back. I'd say there's little chance that it doesn't work out - the team waited until Round 7 to draft a practice squad type back, further indicating that they plan to resign Bradshaw.

I've read on a few threads in here that his status in new york was uncertain...if thats not the case then thats a good thing to know. Do you have any links or articles proving this?

Alot of crazy stuff is said on these boards.

I'm not going to go back and provide links (some stuff was in the local papers), you can do that yourself if interested. Not trying to be a jerk about it, but you could just as easily do an internet search as I can and we both made "unsupported" statements, but I know mine is true.

I'm was just letting you know that those "rumblings" are not what the local buzz is. Take it for what its worth.

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Posted 11 May 2011 - 02:52 PM

Tier 1 1. Calvin Johnson WR DET AGE:25 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=JOH088640 Tier 2 2.Larry Fitzgerald WR ARI AGE:27 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=FIT437493 3.Andre Johnson WR HOU AGE:29 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=JOH056462 Tier 3 4. Greg Jennings WR GB AGE:27 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=JEN480468 5. Roddy White WR ATL AGE:29 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=WHI472686 6. Hakeem Nicks WR NYG AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=NIC726593 7. Mike Wallace WR PITT AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=WAL468678 Tier 4 8. Dez Bryant WR DAL AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=BRY336027 9. AJ Green WR CIN AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=GRE034604 http://forums.footba...pic=570258&st=0 10. Desean Jackson WR PHI AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=JAC127681 11. Julio Jones WR ATL AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=JON640315 12. Dwayne Bowe WR KC AGE:26 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=BOW091822 Tier 5 13. Brandon Marshall WR MIA AGE:27 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=MAR370922 14. Kenny Britt WR TEN AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=BRI708216 15. Miles Austin WR DAL AGE:26 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=AUS467198 Tier 6 16. Jeremy Maclin WR PHI AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=MAC710352 17. Reggie Wayne WR IND AGE:32 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=WAY456953 18. Sidney Rice WR MIN AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=RIC161100 19. Vincent Jackson WR SD AGE:28 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=JAC627460 20. Greg Little WR CLE AGE:21 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=LIT425789 http://forums.footba...cstlatlmia&st=0 21. Santonio Holmes NYJ AGE:27 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=HOL657297 22. Michael Crabtree WR SF AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=CRA111040 23. Percy Harvin WR MIN AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=HAR829482 Tier 7 24. Marques Colston WR NO AGE:27 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=COL777594 25. Mike Williams WR TB AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=WIL446858 http://forums.footba...pic=591869&st=0 26. Brandon Lloyd WR DEN AGE:29 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=LLO154116 http://forums.footba...don lloyd&st=0 27. Steve Johnson WR BUFF AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=JOH673533 28. Arrelious Benn WR TB AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=BEN192067 Tier 8 29. Steve Smith WR CAR AGE:31 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=SMI733120 30. Demaryius Thomas WR DEN AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=THO095855 31. Jonathan Baldwin WR KC AGE:21 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=BAL366946 32. Austin Collie WR IND AGE:25 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=COL397342 33. Wes Welker WR NE AGE:30 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=WEL219433 34. Steve Smith WR NYG AGE:26 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=SMI725035 Tier 9 35. Braylon Edwards WR NYJ AGE:28 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=EDW127548 36. Mike Thomas WR JAC AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=THO309019 37. Johnny Knox WR CHI AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=KNO571695 38. Anquan Boldin WR BAL AGE:30 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=BOL283010 39. Donnie Avery WR STL AGE:26 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=AVE422211 40. Greg Salas WR STL AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=SAL108421 41. Randall Cobb WR GB AGE:20 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=COB365535 42. Torrey Smith WR BAL AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=SMI344958 Tier 10 43. Pierre Garcon WR IND AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=GAR115573 44. Leonard Hankerson WR WAS AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=HAN169573 45. Denario Alexander WR STL AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=ALE168856 46. Titus Young WR DET AGE:21 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=YOU597839 47. Vincent Brown WR SD AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=BRO744480 Tier 11 48. Mario Manningham WR NYG AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=MAN547041 49. Malcom Floyd WR SD AGE:29 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=FLO762180 50. Edmund Gates WR MIA AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=GAT196555 51. Josh Cribbs WR CLE AGE:27 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=CRI120494 52. Brandon Lafell WR CAR AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=LAF184731 53. Emmanuel Sanders WR PITT AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=SAN295989 54. Steve Breaston WR ARI AGE:27 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=BRE019124 55. Jacoby Ford WR OAK AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=FOR220896 56. Jerome simpson WR CIN AGE:25 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=SIM531556 Tier 12 57. Dexter McCluster WR KC AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=MCC467156 58. Mike Williams WR SEA AGE:27 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=WIL447983 59. MIke Sims-Walker WR JAX AGE:26 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=WAL281506 60. Darius Heyward-Bey OAK AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=HEY279111

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Posted 11 May 2011 - 05:07 PM

Stuck to your guns with your hate for Tampa Mike, I will give you credit for that. What did you see from his film that you disliked? Maybe it's the name you dislike because Big Mike Williams is pretty low too.

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Posted 11 May 2011 - 06:26 PM

Really excellent, excellent work. I disagree with much of it, but you are thinking for yourself. Something that's still surprisingly lacking given how saturated the FF analysis game is these days.

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Posted 11 May 2011 - 09:10 PM

Stuck to your guns with your hate for Tampa Mike, I will give you credit for that. What did you see from his film that you disliked? Maybe it's the name you dislike because Big Mike Williams is pretty low too.

I dont hate him. It's just that I think Benn is better talent, So my dynasty rankings Reflect the fact that I like Benn more than Williams. If I'm wrong,I'm wrong, but, from watching what I saw, its at least worth a shot to go with my own opinion.

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Posted 11 May 2011 - 11:27 PM

Stuck to your guns with your hate for Tampa Mike, I will give you credit for that. What did you see from his film that you disliked? Maybe it's the name you dislike because Big Mike Williams is pretty low too.

I dont hate him lol....its just that I think Benn is better talent... So my dynasty rankings show the fact that I like Benn more than Williams. If im wrong,im wrong...but from watching what i saw...its at least worth a shot

What came first, the chicken or the egg? I bet if someone offered you Tampa Mike for Benn straight up you'd insta-accept with glee.

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 05:00 AM

Stuck to your guns with your hate for Tampa Mike, I will give you credit for that. What did you see from his film that you disliked? Maybe it's the name you dislike because Big Mike Williams is pretty low too.

I dont hate him lol....its just that I think Benn is better talent... So my dynasty rankings show the fact that I like Benn more than Williams. If im wrong,im wrong...but from watching what i saw...its at least worth a shot

What came first, the chicken or the egg? I bet if someone offered you Tampa Mike for Benn straight up you'd insta-accept with glee.

That wouldn't necessarily mean that he doesn't like Benn better personally though. TB Mike has much more trade value and he could always flip him for much better value and then get Benn back cheaply. I actually agree with wisc to some extent. While it's hard to argue that Benn will be the better player right now, I do think they are a lot closer in talent than most think after their respective rookie seasons. If Benn recovers in time for the season I think their numbers will end up being fairly close by season's end.

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 07:49 AM

You only rank Jennings and Cobb from GB?

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 10:18 AM

Stuck to your guns with your hate for Tampa Mike, I will give you credit for that. What did you see from his film that you disliked? Maybe it's the name you dislike because Big Mike Williams is pretty low too.

I dont hate him lol....its just that I think Benn is better talent... So my dynasty rankings show the fact that I like Benn more than Williams. If im wrong,im wrong...but from watching what i saw...its at least worth a shot

What came first, the chicken or the egg? I bet if someone offered you Tampa Mike for Benn straight up you'd insta-accept with glee.

That wouldn't necessarily mean that he doesn't like Benn better personally though. TB Mike has much more trade value and he could always flip him for much better value and then get Benn back cheaply. I actually agree with wisc to some extent. While it's hard to argue that Benn will be the better player right now, I do think they are a lot closer in talent than most think after their respective rookie seasons. If Benn recovers in time for the season I think their numbers will end up being fairly close by season's end.

Bingo

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 10:31 AM





Stuck to your guns with your hate for Tampa Mike, I will give you credit for that. What did you see from his film that you disliked? Maybe it's the name you dislike because Big Mike Williams is pretty low too.

I dont hate him lol....its just that I think Benn is better talent... So my dynasty rankings show the fact that I like Benn more than Williams. If im wrong,im wrong...but from watching what i saw...its at least worth a shot

What came first, the chicken or the egg?

I bet if someone offered you Tampa Mike for Benn straight up you'd insta-accept with glee.

That wouldn't necessarily mean that he doesn't like Benn better personally though. TB Mike has much more trade value and he could always flip him for much better value and then get Benn back cheaply.

I actually agree with wisc to some extent. While it's hard to argue that Benn will be the better player right now, I do think they are a lot closer in talent than most think after their respective rookie seasons. If Benn recovers in time for the season I think their numbers will end up being fairly close by season's end.

Bingo

Kind of flawed logic though. If Team A is paying good Mike Williams for Benn then they either are really down on Williams or really high on Benn or both. Mostly likely value Benn higher than his market value. It's all hypothetical, but it seems relatively very low chance you buy Benn back, unless you mean in a separate league. If you think Benn's upside is top 20 instead of top 10, it doesn't matter. But if you think Benn's upside is top 10, it makes it cloudier.

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 10:46 AM

Really excellent, excellent work. I disagree with much of it, but you are thinking for yourself. Something that's still surprisingly lacking given how saturated the FF analysis game is these days.

This!!! This is exactly my point and thank you. :thumbup: You can disagree with every ranking and I'm totally ok with that. If anyone gives a good enough reason as to why a guy should be moved up or down then I would be fine with moving them accordingly. I dont claim to know everything and I'm sure I probably have some false reasoning in there somewhere. If any of you catch something like that then dont hold back. Perfect example is the Ahmad Bradshaw post, That is great stuff to know.

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 11:33 AM

Nice work. It's always interesting to see people's dynasty rankings. :thumbup:
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Posted 12 May 2011 - 12:00 PM

Stuck to your guns with your hate for Tampa Mike, I will give you credit for that. What did you see from his film that you disliked? Maybe it's the name you dislike because Big Mike Williams is pretty low too.

I dont hate him lol....its just that I think Benn is better talent... So my dynasty rankings show the fact that I like Benn more than Williams. If im wrong,im wrong...but from watching what i saw...its at least worth a shot

What came first, the chicken or the egg? I bet if someone offered you Tampa Mike for Benn straight up you'd insta-accept with glee.

That wouldn't necessarily mean that he doesn't like Benn better personally though. TB Mike has much more trade value and he could always flip him for much better value and then get Benn back cheaply. I actually agree with wisc to some extent. While it's hard to argue that Benn will be the better player right now, I do think they are a lot closer in talent than most think after their respective rookie seasons. If Benn recovers in time for the season I think their numbers will end up being fairly close by season's end.

Bingo

So you admit that that you'd instaclick accept on that trade?

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 06:53 AM

Nice work man! I would probably swap most players in tier 6 with tier 4 in the wr rankings.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 12:22 PM

Stuck to your guns with your hate for Tampa Mike, I will give you credit for that. What did you see from his film that you disliked? Maybe it's the name you dislike because Big Mike Williams is pretty low too.

I dont hate him lol....its just that I think Benn is better talent... So my dynasty rankings show the fact that I like Benn more than Williams. If im wrong,im wrong...but from watching what i saw...its at least worth a shot

What came first, the chicken or the egg? I bet if someone offered you Tampa Mike for Benn straight up you'd insta-accept with glee.

That wouldn't necessarily mean that he doesn't like Benn better personally though. TB Mike has much more trade value and he could always flip him for much better value and then get Benn back cheaply. I actually agree with wisc to some extent. While it's hard to argue that Benn will be the better player right now, I do think they are a lot closer in talent than most think after their respective rookie seasons. If Benn recovers in time for the season I think their numbers will end up being fairly close by season's end.

Bingo

So you admit that that you'd instaclick accept on that trade?

I do admit that...but, the point is I would go after Benn this offseason and get him for less than half the price. For redraft I definitely agree that williams is the better selection, But, long term I gotta go with Benn. I still have Williams Ranked ahead of him based on his value to a team for the upcoming year. Also, if Benn doesn't emerge or he busts in general, then Williams value will go up quite a bit. WIth Freeman and nobody to compete with for targets he could be a low end WR1 for years to come.

Edited by wiscstlatlmia, 13 May 2011 - 12:30 PM.


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Posted 30 May 2011 - 05:32 AM

Tier 1: 1. Jermichael Finley TE GB AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=FIN403212 http://forums.footba...pic=532464&st=0 2.Vernon Davis TE SF AGE:27 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=DAV785142 3.Antonio Gates TE SD AGE:30 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=GAT194627 4.Dallas Clark TE IND AGE:31 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=CLA236596 5. Jason Witten TE DAL AGE:29 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=WIT559021 Tier 2: 6. Jimmy Graham TE NO AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=GRA207087 7.Jermaine Gresham TE CIN AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=GRE819895 8.Marcedes Lewis TE JAX AGE:27 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=LEW492053 Tier 3: 9.Zach Miller TE OAK AGE:25 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=MIL625718 10. Rob Gronkowsk TE NE AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=GRO135948 11.Owen Daniels TE HOU AGE:28 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=DAN576298 12.Chris Cooley TE WSH AGE:28 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=DAN576298 13.Brandon Pettigrew TE DET AGE:26 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=PET710823 Tier 4: 14.Lance Kendricks TE STL AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=KEN102780 15. Kellen Winslow TE TB AGE:27 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=WIN521880 16. Aaron Hernandez TE NE AGE:21 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=HER281088 17. Dustin Keller TE NYJ AGE:26 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=KEL091879 18. Greg Olsen TE CHI AGE:26 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=OLS094822 19.Brent Celek TE PHI AGE:26 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=CEL251361 20. Tony Gonzalez TE ATL AGE:35 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=GON587645 Tier 5: 21. Jared Cook TE TEN AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=COO152641 22.Jordan Cameron TE CLE AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=CAM107841 23.Kyle Rudolph TE MIN AGE:21 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=RUD559717 24.John Carlson TE SEA AGE:27 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=CAR142530 25.Tont Moeaki TE KC AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=MOE265365 26.Heath Miller TE PIT AGE:28 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=MIL243606 Tier 6: 27. Visante Shiancoe TE MIN AGE:30 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=SHI025168 28. Jeremy Shockey TE NO AGE:30 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=SHO162072 29.Travis Beckum TE NYG AGE: 24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=BEC798709 30.DJ Williams TE GB AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=WIL210447 31.Fred Davis TE WSH AGE:25 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=DAV318170 32.Todd Heap TE BAL AGE:31 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=HEA302949 33 Anthony Fasano TE MIA AGE:27 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=FAS072076 34.Robert Housler TE ARI AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=HOU358294 35.Ben Watson TE CLE AGE:30 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=WAT311042 Tier 7: 36.Ed Dickson TE BAL AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=DIC709336 37.Virgil Green TE DEN AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=GRE378950 38.Julius Thomas TE DEN AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=THO265401 39.James Casey TE HOU AGE:26 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=CAS214381 40.Kevin Boss TE NYG AGE:27 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=BOS364606 41.Tony Scheffler TE DET AGE:28 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=SCH095691 42.Delanie Walker TE SF AGE:26 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=WAL115671

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 06:32 AM

Nice job on the rankings OP. A couple thoughts.... 1. I would probably sacrifice one of the DAL/GB/NO/BUF or SD running backs to get Turner's back up and/or third down back on the list. 2. If Danario Alexander is healthy at camp time? he needs to be on the list of WRs, maybe as high if not higher than Avery/Salas. 3. A year removed from his injury, Owen Daniels could probably flip spots with M.Lewis; and I'd put Jared Cook somewhere near the top of tier 4. Keep up the good work.

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 07:02 AM

Nice job on the rankings OP. A couple thoughts.... 1. I would probably sacrifice one of the DAL/GB/NO/BUF or SD running backs to get Turner's back up and/or third down back on the list. 2. If Danario Alexander is healthy at camp time? he needs to be on the list of WRs, maybe as high if not higher than Avery/Salas. 3. A year removed from his injury, Owen Daniels could probably flip spots with M.Lewis; and I'd put Jared Cook somewhere near the top of tier 4. Keep up the good work.

1.Good call on cook, I knew I forgot somebody in that range. I remember being impressed when I caught a live Titans game last year. But, I'm a little skeptical of the situation hes in. Definitely has the talent to make noise this year, does he get the opportunity? 21 seems like the right spot for him in my mind , right in front of Jodan Cameron and Kyle Rudolph(who I consider to have similar situations and skill level) 2. As a Rams fan I'm embarrassed I missed this one. He seemed to work well with Bradford when he was in there, playing very well as the role of big target/deep threat. When the Rams went Kendricks over Greg Little in the second round I was extremely shocked at first and a little upset. But, when I really thought about it, its more encouraging than discouraging. This could mean a couple different things to me, all of them pointing to The Rams organization perceiving there passing game as a non weakness in general. Potential senarios: 1. They are happy with what they have at WR. The drafting of Salas and Pettis tells me they are looking for a solid NO.2 WR to go alongside Avery or Alexander. Which guy is it? I'm not completely sure. It could go either way but im leaning towards avery as having a higher probability at this point. 2. They are so high on bradford they think he can do well regardless of who they throw out there. If this is the case, I would be a bit higher on Salas and Amendola to have some solid PPR games. This could end up like the New orleans situation real quick if no guy emerges. All things seem positive offensively as a whole for the Rams , But WR as a fantasy whole, is a very cloudy situation. Training camp would be extremely interesting and helpful to figure this group out, unfortunately that may not even happen :angry: 3. Yea, Rodgers needs to be on the list as well. I'll put him in there in the 30s-40s range when I get a chance.

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 03:29 PM

Tier 1 1. Aaron Rodgers QB GB AGE:27 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=ROD339293 Tier 2 2. Phillip Rivers QB SD AGE:29 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=RIV651634 Tier 3 3. Tom Brady QB NE AGE:33 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=BRA371156 4. Peyton Manning QB IND AGE: 35 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=MAN515097 5. Michael Vick QB PHI AGE:30 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=VIC311467 6. Drew Brees QB NO AGE:32 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=BRE229498 Tier 4 7. Sam Bradford QB STL AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=BRA101548 8. Matt Ryan QB ATL AGE:26 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=RYA238179 9. Ben Roethlisberger QB PIT AGE:29 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=ROE750381 10. Tony Romo QB DAL AGE:31 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=ROM787981 11. Josh Freeman QB TB AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=FRE183259 Tier 5 12. Joe Flacco QB BAL AGE:26 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=FLA009602 13. Eli Manning QB NYG AGE:30 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=MAN473170 14. Matt Schaub QB HOU AGE:29 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=SCH085186 15. Jay Cutler QB CHI AGE:28 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=CUT288111 16. Matthew Stafford QB DET AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=STA134157 Tier 6 17. Cam Newton QB CAR AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=NEW693984 18. Blaine Gabbert QB JAX AGE:21 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=GAB221145 19. Mark Sanchez QB NYJ AGE:24 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=SAN091667 20.Kevin Kolb QB PHI AGE:26 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=KOL105037 21. Matt Cassel QB KC AGE:29 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=CAS541133 22. Tim Tebow QB DEN AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=TEB603856 23. Kyle Orton QB DEN AGE:28 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=ORT716150 Tier 7 24.Colt McCoy QB CLE AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=MCC603149 25. Colin Kaepernick QB SF AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=KAE371576 26. Jake Locker QB TEN AGE:22 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=LOC066933 27. Andy Dalton QB CIN AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=DAL659900 28. Christian Ponder QB MIN AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=PON404041 29. Ryan Fitzpatrick QB BUFF AGE:28 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=FIT792915 Tier 8 30. Carson Palmer QB CIN AGE:31 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=PAL249055 31. Chad Henne QB MIA AGE:25 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=HEN507580 32. Alex Smith QB SF AGE:27 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=SMI031126 33. Jason Campbell QB OAK AGE:29 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=CAM375235 34. Matt Hasselbeck QB SEA AGE:35 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=HAS536799 35. David Garrard QB JAX AGE:33 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=GAR371604 36. Donvovan McNabb QB WASH AGE:34 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=MCN017517 Tier 9 37. Jimmy Clausen QB CAR AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=CLA709185 38. Charlie Whitehurst QB SEA AGE:28 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=WHI646241 39. Bruce Gradkowski QB OAK AGE:28 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=GRA068015 40. Shaun Hill QB DET AGE:31 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=HIL586565 41. John Beck QB WASH AGE:29 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=BEC177695 42. Greg McElroy QB NYJ AGE:23 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=MCE147449 43. John Kitna QB DAL AGE:38 http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=KIT155733

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 03:35 PM

Nice job with the Qb rankings. :thumbup: Romo and Fitzpatrick are low and Vick, Freeman are too high, but thats all i really see.

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 03:38 PM

Nice job with the Qb rankings. :thumbup: Romo and Fitzpatrick are low and Vick, Freeman are too high, but thats all i really see.

Thanks man, all I gotta say is, we shall see sir :football: ...lol

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 11:44 AM

Guys on the rise since the last RB rankings: Felix Jones- All reports have been that Felix is back to his old, quicker self. All the talent and the essentially a feature role to himself. If he can stay healthy I like him this year and in the future. Beanie Wells- The reason for the bump dynasty-wise is that now he has a shot to prove himself this year. With Ryan Williams out of the way, There is no more excuses for Mr. Wells Reggie Bush- Love the way Miami has been using him so far in the preseason. Could be a great buy low in PPR leagues. Downward spiral: Jonathan Stewart- Well this is frustrating. Cant Be an elite fantasy RB without the touches. Stewart owners are going to have to bank on Deangelo Williams injuries until he becomes a free agent. Mikel Leshoure/ Ryan Williams - talk about unfortunate. Not sure how these injuries will affect them in the future and with no value in redraft this year...had to drop them Tier 1 1.Adrian Peterson RB MIN AGE:26 2.Chris Johnson RB TENN AGE:25 3. Jamaal Charles RB KC AGE:24 Tier 2 4.Darren McFadden RB OAK AGE:23 5.Arian Foster RB HOU AGE:24 6.Ray Rice RB BAL AGE:24 Tier 3 7. Lesean Mccoy RB PHI AGE:22 8.Maurice Jones Drew RB JAC AGE:26 9. Rashard Mendenhall RB PITT AGE:23 Tier 4 10.C.J. Spiller RB BUFF AGE:23 11.Steven Jackson RB STL AGE:27 12..Mark Ingram RB NO AGE:21 13.Matt Forte RB CHI AGE:25 Tier 5 14.Felix Jones RB DAL AGE:24 15.Ryan Mathews RB SD AGE:23 16. Jahvid Best RB DET AGE:22 17.Frank Gore RB SF AGE:27 Tier 6 18. Knowshon Moreno RB DEN AGE:23 19. Deangelo Williams RB F/A AGE:28 20.Chris Wells RB ARZ AGE:22 21.Jonathan Stewart RB CAR AGE:24 22.Michael Turner RB ATL AGE:29 23.Peyton Hillis RB CLE AGE:25 24.Ahmad Bradshaw RB NYG:25 25. Shonn Greene RB NYJ AGE:25 26. LaGarrette Blount RB TB AGE:24 Tier 7 27.Daniel Thomas RB MIA AGE:23 28. Marshawn Lynch RB SEA AGE:25 29.Reggie Bush RB MIA AGE:26 30.Alex Green RB GB AGE:21 31.Shane Vereen RB NE AGE:22 32.Mikel Leshoure RB DET AGE:21 33.Ryan Williams RB ARZ AGE:21 Tier 8 34.James Starks RB GB AGE: 35.Roy Helu RB WAS AGE:22 36.Joseph Addai IND AGE:28 37.Tim Hightower RB WAS AGE:24 38.Ben Tate RB HOU AGE:22 39.Kendall Hunter RB SF AGE:22 40. Montario Hardesty RB CLE AGE:24 41.Demarco Murray RB DAL AGE:23 42.Bernard Scott RB DAL AGE: Tier 9 43.Jacquizz Rodgers RB ATL AGE:21 44.Jamie Harper RB TEN AGE:21 45.Delone Carter RB IND AGE:23 46.Cedric Benson RB CIN AGE:28 47.Pierre Thomas RB NO AGE:26 48.Mike Goodson RB CAL AGE:23 49.Fred Jackson RB BUF AGE:30 50.Stevan Ridley RB NE AGE:22 51.Mike Tolbert RB SD AGE:25 52.Ryan Grant RB GB AGE:28 Tier 10 53.Bilal Powell RB NYJ AGE:22 54.Taiwan Jones RB OAK AGE:22 55.Allen Bradford RB TB AGE:22 56.Michael Bush RB OAK AGE:26 57.Donald Brown RB IND AGE:24 58.Johnny White RB BUF AGE:23 59.Ryan Torain RB WAS AGE:24 60.Rashad Jennings RB JAC AGE:26 61.Ronnie Brown RB MIA AGE:29 62.Tashard Choice RB DAL AGE:26 63. Jalene Parmele RB BAL AGE:25 64.Jordan Todman RB SD AGE:21 65. Jerimiah Johnson RB DEN AGE:24

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 12:39 PM

Rising: Braylon Edwards- Looks motivated so far in camp. Mike Sims-Walker- Still very cloudy at WR for the rams. It's going to be who can stay healthy. If Walker and Avery can stay healthy, they will both be productive. If they dont , The guy might be Brandon Gibson. Oakland receivers- there are 3 wrs ready to break out for the raiders this year(Denarius Moore,Darius Heyward-Bey, Jacoby Ford). I'm not sure which one yet, but they all have the talent. Falling: Johnny Knox- Martz made his point clear. Roy williams took his spot, The End... Michael Crabtree- Injured and missing preseason again. Plus now he might not even be the NO.1 WR in the offense. Jon Baldwin- Who gets in a fight with Thomas Jones? really? are you new Jon Baldwin? But more seriously, This is another sign of immaturity that people were talking about before the draft. 1. Calvin Johnson WR DET AGE:25 2.Larry Fitzgrald WR ARI AGE:27 3.Andre Johnson WR HOU AGE:29 4. Greg Jennings WR GB AGE:27 5. Hakeem Nicks WR NYG AGE:23 6. Roddy White WR ATL AGE:29 7. Mike Wallace WR PITT AGE:25 8. Dez Bryant WR DAL AGE:22 9. AJ Green WR CIN AGE:22 10. Desean Jackson WR PHI AGE:24 11. Julio Jones WR ATL AGE:22 12. Dwayne Bowe WR KC AGE:26 13. Brandon Marshall WR MIA AGE:27 14. Kenny Britt WR TEN AGE:22 15.Brandon Lloyd WR DEN AGE:29 16. Miles Austin WR DAL AGE:26 17. Jeremy Maclin WR PHI AGE:23 18. Vincent Jackson WR SD AGE:28 19. Greg Little WR CLE AGE:21 20. Reggie Wayne WR IND AGE:32 21. Santonio Holmes NYJ AGE:27 22. Percy Harvin WR MIN AGE:22 23. Mike Williams WR TB AGE:23 24. Sidney Rice WR MIN AGE:24 25. Marques Colston WR NO AGE:27 26. Austin Collie WR IND AGE:25 27. Wes Welker WR NE AGE:30 28. Michael Crabtree WR SF AGE:23 29. Steve Johnson WR BUFF AGE:24 30. Arrelious Benn WR TB AGE:22 31. Steve Smith WR CAR AGE:31 34. Braylon Edwards WR NYJ AGE:28 35. MIke Sims-Walker WR JAX AGE:26 36. Mike Thomas WR JAC AGE:23 37. Mario Manningham WR NYG AGE:24 38. Anquan Boldin WR BAL AGE:30 39. Randall Cobb WR GB AGE:20 40. Demaryius Thomas WR DEN AGE:23 41. Steve Smith WR NYG AGE:26 42. Torrey Smith WR BAL AGE:22 43. Pierre Garcon WR IND AGE:24 44. Jacoby Ford WR OAK AGE:24 45. Leonard Hankerson WR WAS AGE:23 46.Denarius Moore WR OAK AGE:22 57. Donnie Avery WR STL AGE:26 48.Mike Williams WR SEA AGE:27 49. Darius Heyward-Bey OAK AGE:24 50. Brandon Gibson WR STL AGE:24 51 Jonathan Baldwin WR KC AGE:21 52. Titus Young WR DET AGE:21 53. Vincent Brown WR SD AGE:22 54. Malcom Floyd WR SD AGE:29 55. Edmund Gates WR MIA AGE:24 55. Josh Cribbs WR CLE AGE:27 56. Johnny Knox WR CHI AGE:24 57. Greg Salas WR STL AGE:22 58. Brandon Lafell WR CAR AGE:24 59. Emmanuel Sanders WR PITT AGE:24 60. Steve Breaston WR ARI AGE:27 61. Jerome simpson WR CIN AGE:25 62. Dexter McCluster WR KC AGE:22

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 01:16 PM

-Love where I had Bradford and think that hes finally hes getting the credit hes deserving of -Moved Peyton down two spots because of the neck -Tebow obviously had to be dropped considering hes 3rd on the depth chart right now lol -Moved Newton and Gabbert down because quite frankly, ranked them to high to begin with -Added Rex Grossman...because he could be starting this year :shrug: Tier 1 1. Aaron Rodgers QB GB AGE:27 Tier 2 2. Phillip Rivers QB SD AGE:29 Tier 3 3. Tom Brady QB NE AGE:33 4. Michael Vick QB PHI AGE:30 5. Drew Brees QB NO AGE:32 6. Peyton Manning QB IND AGE: 35 Tier 4 7. Sam Bradford QB STL AGE:23 8. Matt Ryan QB ATL AGE:26 9. Tony Romo QB DAL AGE:31 10. Ben Roethlisberger QB PIT AGE:29 11. Josh Freeman QB TB AGE:23 Tier 5 12. Matt Schaub QB HOU AGE:29 13. Joe Flacco QB BAL AGE:26 14. Eli Manning QB NYG AGE:30 15. Matthew Stafford QB DET AGE:23 16. Jay Cutler QB CHI AGE:28 Tier 6 17. Mark Sanchez QB NYJ AGE:24 18.Kevin Kolb QB PHI AGE:26 19. Cam Newton QB CAR AGE:22 20. Blaine Gabbert QB JAX AGE:21 21. Matt Cassel QB KC AGE:29 22. Kyle Orton QB DEN AGE:28 Tier 7 23.Colt McCoy QB CLE AGE:23 24. Colin Kaepernick QB SF AGE:23 25. Jake Locker QB TEN AGE:22 26. Andy Dalton QB CIN AGE:23 27. Christian Ponder QB MIN AGE:23 28. Ryan Fitzpatrick QB BUFF AGE:28 Tier 8 29. Tim Tebow QB DEN AGE:23 30. Chad Henne QB MIA AGE:25 31. Alex Smith QB SF AGE:27 32. Jason Campbell QB OAK AGE:29 33. Matt Hasselbeck QB SEA AGE:35 34. David Garrard QB JAX AGE:33 35. Donvovan McNabb QB WASH AGE:34 Tier 9 38. Jimmy Clausen QB CAR AGE:23 39. Charlie Whitehurst QB SEA AGE:28 40. Bruce Gradkowski QB OAK AGE:28 41. Shaun Hill QB DET AGE:31 42. John Beck QB WAS AGE:29 43. Rex Grossman QB WAS AGE: 31 43. Greg McElroy QB NYJ AGE:23 44. John Kitna QB DAL AGE:38

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 01:43 PM

-Not much of a change here other than moving Ben Watson up from 34 to 27. -People are finally coming around to Lance Kendicks , for obvious reasons. I'm just gonna go ahead and pat myself on the back for that Tier 1: 1. Jermichael Finley TE GB AGE:24 2.Vernon Davis TE SF AGE:27 3.Antonio Gates TE SD AGE:30 4.Dallas Clark TE IND AGE:31 5. Jason Witten TE DAL AGE:29 Tier 2: 6. Jimmy Graham TE NO AGE:24 7.Jermaine Gresham TE CIN AGE:22 8.Marcedes Lewis TE JAX AGE:27 Tier 3: 9.Zach Miller TE SEA AGE:25 10. Rob Gronkowsk TE NE AGE:22 11.Owen Daniels TE HOU AGE:28 12.Chris Cooley TE WSH AGE:28 13.Brandon Pettigrew TE DET AGE:26 Tier 4: 14.Lance Kendricks TE STL AGE:23 15. Kellen Winslow TE TB AGE:27 16. Aaron Hernandez TE NE AGE:21 17. Dustin Keller TE NYJ AGE:26 18. Greg Olsen TE CAR AGE:26 19. Jared Cook TE TEN AGE:24 20.Brent Celek TE PHI AGE:26 21. Tony Gonzalez TE ATL AGE:35 Tier 5: 22.Jordan Cameron TE CLE AGE:22 23.Kyle Rudolph TE MIN AGE:21 24.John Carlson TE SEA AGE:27 25.Tony Moeaki TE KC AGE:23 26.Ed Dickson TE BAL AGE:23 27.Heath Miller TE PIT AGE:28 Tier 6: 28. Visante Shiancoe TE MIN AGE:30 29.Ben Watson TE CLE AGE:39 30. Jeremy Shockey TE NO AGE:30 31.Travis Beckum TE NYG AGE: 24 32. Julius Thomas TE DEN AGE:23 33.DJ Williams TE GB AGE:22 34.Fred Davis TE WSH AGE:25 35.Todd Heap TE BAL AGE:31 36 Anthony Fasano TE MIA AGE:27 37.Robert Housler TE ARI AGE:23 Tier 7: 38.Virgil Green TE DEN AGE:22 39.Julius Thomas TE DEN AGE:22 40.James Casey TE HOU AGE:26 41.Kevin Boss TE NYG AGE:27 42.Tony Scheffler TE DET AGE:28 43.Delanie Walker TE SF AGE:26

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 01:51 PM

12.Chris Cooley TE WSH AGE:28

Given the knee injury issues there, I'm VERY surprised to see Cooley still in the top 15.

35.Ed Dickson TE BAL AGE:23

Starting TE with pass catching ability ranked this low is surprising. He has significant upside given the attention that Boldin and Evans will command on the outside coupled with T.Smith/T.Doss.

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 02:03 PM

12.Chris Cooley TE WSH AGE:28

Given the knee injury issues there, I'm VERY surprised to see Cooley still in the top 15.

35.Ed Dickson TE BAL AGE:23

Starting TE with pass catching ability ranked this low is surprising. He has significant upside given the attention that Boldin and Evans will command on the outside coupled with T.Smith/T.Doss.

I just cant take Cooley down yet because regardless of what I hear, if he plays all year he'll be a top 10 guy.He played hurt most of last year and im not selling just yet. your right on Dickson though . I moved him up to 25. I missed him when I was switching the guys up and down. Thanks for the input. :thumbup:

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 04:15 PM

Looks like Jared Cook has been omitted from the most recent TE rankings.

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 04:44 PM

Looks like Jared Cook has been omitted from the most recent TE rankings.

ugh...Put him in at 19 cant believe I missed him again...to be fair I put him in at 21 in the last rankings... :wall:

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 08:11 PM

Looks like Jared Cook has been omitted from the most recent TE rankings.

ugh...Put him in at 19 cant believe I missed him again...to be fair I put him in at 21 in the last rankings... :wall:

Just wanted to say great job on all the work!
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How much is the QB worth? My breakdown of team success is the following:
Defense = 40%
Special Teams = 20%
Offense = 40%

Therefore, IF QB's are worth 40% of the offense they are worth 16% of the outcome of the game

The masses overrate players on good teams and underrate players on bad teams (especially QB's)

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 06:21 PM

The updates for my dynasty rankings are not coming out till week 8 because I wanted to give everyone a fair shot. But, I figured I would come out and talk about what I've seen so far this season. Some of my predictions have been right, some have been wrong, but I'm just so happy to have fantasy football back I dont even care. The following thoughts are about what I've seen so far and how I think they have affected the Dynasty world. QBs: Movin' on up Cam Newton- WOW! what a huge surprise this was. I was definitely rooting for Cam coming into the season, but I can't say I was buying into him as a future top dynasty guy. Anyone who says they aren't totally impressed and that he has completely blown every expectation out of the water...they are lying to you... If he can keep this up he has the potential to be the most dominant fantasy force of all-time. I initially had him at 17 in my first rankings but that was even high for me (moving him down a few spots in the most recent one). I dont see how I could keep him out of the top ten with the type of potential he has. I'm all aboard the Cam Newton train. WOO WOOO... On a more serious note I will not be placing him in my top five just yet. I have been seeing talks of him be ranked as high as #2. That's people getting a bit ahead of themselves IMO. I cant put him in front of any of the following yet: Aaron Rodgers Tom Brady Drew Brees Michael Vick Phillip rivers ...sorry folks, just cant put him in that category...yet. Mathew Stafford- I would still like to see him stay healthy the whole season, but he has shown he is everything you saw in the few games he played last season. HIm and Calvin are poetry in motion at this point. Aaron Rodgers- He went from consensus #1 in my book , to utterly untradable, in any situation. The player he is + Jennings, Jermichael and apparently Jordy Nelson = Championship. If he repeats again this year I will start the "Aaron Rodgers is the best QB of all-time' thread. Shakin' on down: Peyton Manning- O, Peyton, How I miss you. The best Qb of the last generation is finally breaking down. It's a sad site and I hope he can come back. There's no way he can be ranked in the top 6 ...or even the top 10 when you take into account his age and his neck injury. Sam Bradford - As a Ram's fan, this pains me. His value is completely tapped this year and potentially next year considering what he has to work with. I have no doubts about his talent or the fantasy numbers he can put up in a legitimate offense. I just cant keep him as high as I have(at least with honesty) knowing what he has to work with. He WILL have Lance Kendricks , but only after he is comfortable with the offense(which may take until the end of this year or even the beginning of next year). They need a top pick to go to a skill position player, I'm hoping for either Trent Richardson or Justin Blackmon. If they do not get an impact skill position players this offseason I would continue selling him... until they do. Matt Ryan - He has the ultimate weapons and he is doing less than he has ever done before. I understand he is the goldne boy in most peoples eyes, but he needs to start producing better numbers considering hes heading into the prime of his career. With Julio Jones, Roddy White and even an older tony Gonzalez...any QB thats capable of putting up elite numbers would be doing so by now. RBs: Movin' on up: Darren McFadden: Just kidding, I already had him at 4 :). Lesean McCoy- I stand corrected. Before the season I was in the ' McCoy's production will be elite based on situation rather than talent' boat, I was wrong. Talk about quick out of his breaks, McCoy will continue putting up these numbers barring injury or complete let down from the eagles offense. Undoubtedly one of the quickest and shiftiest backs in the league. Matt Forte- Another guy I was dead wrong on. I remember literally hating Matt forte when he was ranked as high as 4th in dynasty drafts after his rookie year. I looked at his measly 3.9 YPC and instantly cast him off as a scrub that just got a lot of touches... wrong, wrong and wrong. Once i started watching the games I finally realized the Bears have no offensive line whatsoever. I believe this is the main reason he has struggled so much on the goal line and also why they throw to him so much. I softened up on him a little bit last year, but I did not give him the credit as a pure runner than he actually is. I believe if you put him in Houston, he would be putting up Arian Foster type numbers right now. Beanie Wells- I've always loved the guy, but I never knew if he was going to be able to put it together, it looks like he has thus far. a bruising back that is great on the goal line and seemingly has finally learned how to pass block, wells is the new feature back in Arizona. While I dont believe thats a great situation, I still think barring an injury he will put up top 15 and possibly even top 10 numbers from here on out. Pretty much and every week starter unless you are loaded at RB. Fred Jackson- Well look who we got here... Biggest jerk in football right here. Keeping Spiller on the bench is a sin, but can you really blame Chan Gailey? no way, Fred Jackson is playing fantastic right now and is everything all the Fred Jackson hype trainers said he was. I am thoroughly impressed with the way he plays the game. Was easily the most underrated back coming into the season. Shakin' on down: CJ Spiller- I cant help but drop him at this point. Love the guy, love the talent, but as long as Fred Jackson is doing his best superman interpretation ... touches will be far and few between for Spiller. Jamaal Charles- What a sad site to see. I did not, in fact own him in a leagues at the time of the injury, but you never like seeing a guy of his caliber go down and out for the season. We have to wait and see on how he returns next year from the injury. A nice stash play in dynasty if you can grab him for a good enough price. I have to drop him out of the top 10 at least for now based on the injury and the fact that he wont be giving you any production for the remainder of the season. Deangelo Williams- I think its pretty clear at this point who the best RB is in Carolina(other than Cam Newton). Its Jonathan Stewart, plain and simple. My mind was blown(my rankings were also) when the panthers decided to pay Williams all that money to comeback when they already have an elite horse in the stable. Mind. Blown http://www.youtube.c...feature=related ...anyway. Deangelo is dropping in my rankings for the fact that I have faith the Panthers they will give Stewart the lion share of the carries by the end of the year. Also, it seems the Panthers have gone away from the ground and pound approach, actually completely abandoning it at some points. So the less carries to go around, the less I like Williams. Steven Jackson- Ugh, I love you Steven, but the run may be over. I kinda just ignored the hints from last year that jackson might be losing a step, but I cant anymore. It's pretty clear the Bruiser's running style has finally caught up to him, not to say he cant be affective still, but he is definitely on the slippery slop from a dynasty standpoint. Another factor going against jackson is the fact that he is on one of the youngest and worst offenses in the NFL and it doesn't look to be getting better to quickly. Father time called and told me that if Jackson puts together a few solid fantasy weeks in a row, sell high WRs: Movin' on up: Wes Welker- I mean, WOW. Welker and Cam Newton are the only two to get the WOW nomination. I didn't think it was possible for a slot WR to dominate the game like this, but he certainly is. It seems early on he is unguardable and definitely deserving much higher of the 27 ranking I gave him in August. I wouldn't put him in elite status quite yet because of age, but if he keeps this production up I have no choice. Steve Smith(Car)- Can't say I didn't get lucky on this guy in one of my leagues. I heard rumors of him possibly getting traded over the summer so I bought low on him. Once i realized thats all they were I was upset and just kinda depressingly let him sit on my roster and hoped for the best. I figured he had something left in the tank , but I didn't expect this, nor did I expect Newton to be the second coming. Can't deny that the talent Smith possess is tops in the league. I dont know that i expect him to keep up this torrid pace, but as long as the panthers keep there offense moving the ball like this, he will be a very solid WR1 for the next year and possibly more. Denarius Moore- Just like everyone else who's seen the guy play. I'm blown away how he slipped through the cracks. Raiders homers were raving about him before the regular season and hes now proving them all right. I'm not sure how many targets he will see this year considering the logjam at WR for the raiders. But even as a guy who is Optimistic on DHB, Denarius Moore is the best WR on that team, only a matter of time. Jordy Nelson- Still not the biggest fan, but hes shown he is a reliable target for Rodgers and it seems that offense can support him as a solid WR 3 even low end WR2. Steve Johnson- Another guy who I underrated. Johnson has much better ball skills than I thought and is also a much better athlete than I thought. My theory on him falling off last year because teams actually started game planning for him...Wrong. O well, hes still sort of a buy low, try to grab him if you can. Antonio Brown- Seems hes won the battle over Emmanuel sanders for now. I wont lie, haven't seen much of him this year, but from what im hearing hes playing fantastic so far and is definitely worth grabbing for the potential future WR2 role in Pittsburgh. Victor Cruz- Finally getting the opportunity he deserves, Manningham proving to be his own worst enemy is a big ??? and Cruz is jumping at the opportunity. A Couple more big plays and Cruz could be licking his chops as the second Receiver opposite Nicks . Shakin' on down: Roddy White-I will start by saying that my prediction of Roddy White's targets going down was wrong. But the other factor is that he is not the best WR on his team anymore. Julio Jones is the potential elite talent that White quite frankly is not. I still think hes a very good NFL receiver, but I also think by as early as next year, Julio will be the #1 WR in that offense. Kenny Britt- This has NOTHING to do with the talent Britt has. I have no doubt if he could put it together for an entire year he would be an elite guy. I'm starting to lose faith that it will ever happen though. Britt is a very Physical player and that style of play has seemed to get him banged up a lot. I'm also worried about what trouble hes going to get himself into with being out the rest of this year . top 10 talent, will probably end up in the late 20s in my rankings Reggie Wayne- With no Peyton Manning this year and Wayne being 32, not sure how many years he has left in him. I wont say hes breaking down yet because that offense is a shadow of itself without its leader, but the future is to cloudy in Indy for me to buy into him anymore. Mike Williams(TB)- Just kidding, I already had him right where I wanted him :) Mario Manningham- Seems inconsistency is the name of the game with Manningham. He will make some great plays some weeks, then the next week drop a few costly balls or make a key mistake. Unfortunately lack of Consistency is what does most NFL players in. I think the #2 spot for the giants is a very valuable fantasy position if one guy is in it. If Cruz and Manningham split time that taps both there value. if one emerges I like either who does. Manningham is not worth trading right now because he could still take his spot back. I consider him a hold, but a pessimistic one. TEs: Movin' on up: Jimmy Graham- Welp, gotta thank the shark pool for this one, great work guys. graham has emerged as the next Marques Colston like target in New Orleans. If hes like Colston though, once teams start game planning for him he might be a bit more inconsistent. Brees loves to spread it out and if teams start bracketing or doubling Graham, he will have no problem spreading the ball around. Overall though I think hes dialed in as a top 5 dynasty option at this point. Rob Gronkowski- Gronk is everything Tom Brady has Dreamed of ever since he lost Moss. Hes a great blocker and also great catching the ball. He will consistently be on the field and put up TE1 numbers as long as nothing terrible happens. It seems pretty clear Brady to Gronk is good for 10TDs at least per year. Shaking on down: Dallas Clark- Its literally the same situation as Reggie Wayne. Love the guy, but he's pretty much obsolete without manning Running the show. A low end TE1 at this point. obviously still worth starting but not anything like what hes been the past few years with Manning Zach Miller- Woof... he just leaps from bad situation to bad situation. It's to bad he left Oakland right before they became relevant. They are keeping him in as a blocker and giving him the same treatment they have been giving John Carlson. Hardly worth rostering at this point. Marcedes Lewis- Jacksonville's offense is miserable and until Gabbert develops more, Lewis Is not even startable regardless of your league. Chris Cooley- Hes playing hurt right now and a byproduct of that is Fred Davis is getting more targets. Davis is making the most of them and I love Davis to take the majority of the targets in the future, even when Cooley is fully healthy

Edited by wiscstlatlmia, 07 October 2011 - 04:30 PM.


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Posted 18 October 2011 - 02:11 PM

A changing of the guard this year for tight ends. Lots of new faces at the top of the heap and even #1. Ill start with the most obvious: Jimmy Graham- Whoa...Four one hundred yard games in a row, this guy isn't joking around Folks. Its pretty clear to me that (barring injury) Graham will consistently get 10 targets a game and is an elite talent. Kid has the mentality , the talent and the QB to dominate fantasy for the next 5 or so years. Essentially everything Jermichael was suppose to do. Jermichael finley- Man, hes really letting me down, had to drop him a few spots do to his performance and other performance that couldn't be ignored(Jimmy graham). When you look at Finley as a whole, it is absolutely shocking that hes not putting up better numbers with the talent and situation. This is the first time I'm officially worried that he will never be able to put together his immense talent with his unbelievable situation...Upsetting to say the least. Rob Gronkowski / Aaron Hernandez: I like Gronk More from a talent standpoint. But the problem is, hes too talented. Gronk is a great blocker so they tend to keep him in more than Hernandez. In base scoring I would put Gronk in considering the red zone targets, but Hernandez is the one to own for ppr of any sort. Brandon Pettigrew/ Jermaine Gresham: I went back and forth on this one quite a bit. I finally decided that my biased man love for Gresham (steaming from his Oklahoma days) was not enough to overcome the situation that Pettigrew is in. I like Gresham more based on talent, but I doubt he will be getting a QB like stafford anytime soon. Fred Davis/ Chris Cooley: Its over...Fred Davis came out the winner in this one. Cooley just can't seem to stay healthy and Fred Davis is Seizing the opportunity. Washington in the past has used there TE's quite a bit, could be a solid situation for Davis in the future and I see him as borderline top 10 for the rest of the year. Tony Gonzalez- Officially on 'ride him till the wheels come off' status. We should all stop trying to guess when hes going to break down and simply be happy we are getting to watch the greatest TE of all-time. Keep an eye out for: Jake Ballard Evan Moore Lance Kendricks- I know, hes sucked so far this year. But if you still have him on your roster, keep the faith. Once he learns the system, he will have a very high ceiling. Jared Cook- Conspicuously missing from my initial posts from the first two sessions...wont happen again. :thumbup: Julius Thomas Fall From Grace: Chris Cooley Zach Miller- Upsetting, has the talent, looking like he may never get the opportunity. Brenk Celek Jermichael Finley- I realize he is still #3 but he was light years ahead of everyone in my mind when I updated last. From where I thought he was to where hes looking now, biggest fall of anyone. Tier 1: 1. Jimmy Graham TE NO AGE:24 2. Jason Witten TE DAL AGE:29 3. Jermichael Finley TE GB AGE:24 Tier 2: 4.Vernon Davis TE SF AGE:27 5. Aaron Hernandez TE NE AGE:21 6. Rob Gronkowski TE NE AGE:22 Tier 3: 7.Brandon Pettigrew TE DET AGE:26 8.Jermaine Gresham TE CIN AGE:22 tier 4: 9.Owen Daniels TE HOU AGE:28 10.Fred Davis TE WSH AGE:25 11.Antonio Gates TE SD AGE:30 12.Dallas Clark TE IND AGE:31 Tier 5: 13. Tony Gonzalez TE ATL AGE:35 14.Lance Kendricks TE STL AGE:23 15. Jared Cook TE TEN AGE:23 16. Dustin Keller TE NYJ AGE:26 17. Greg Olsen TE CAR AGE:26 Tier 6 18.Marcedes Lewis TE JAX AGE:27 19. Kellen Winslow TE TB AGE:27 20. Julius Thomas TE DEN AGE:23 Tier 7: 21.Jordan Cameron TE CLE AGE:22 22.Kyle Rudolph TE MIN AGE:21 23.Evan Moore TE CLE AGE:26 24.Ed Dickson TE BAL AGE:23 25.Jake Ballard TE NYG AGE:23 Tier 8: 26.DJ Williams TE GB AGE:22 27.Virgil Green TE DEN AGE:22 28.James Casey TE HOU AGE:26 29. Visante Shiancoe TE MIN AGE:30 30.Tony Moeaki TE KC AGE:23 Tier 9: 31.Zach Miller TE SEA AGE:25 32.Brent Celek TE PHI AGE:26 33.Chris Cooley TE WSH AGE:28 34.Heath Miller TE PIT AGE:28 35.Anthony Fasano TE MIA AGE:27 36.John Carlson TE SEA AGE:27 37.Ben Watson TE CLE AGE:30 38. Jeremy Shockey TE NO AGE:30 39.Kevin Boss TE OAK AGE:27 Tier 11: 40.Travis Beckum TE NYG AGE: 24 41.Todd Heap TE ARI AGE:31 42.Robert Housler TE ARI AGE:23 43.Delanie Walker TE SF AGE:26 44.Joel Dreessen TE HOU AGE:29 45.Tony Scheffler TE DET AGE:28

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