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Predict Free Agent Destinations (1 Viewer)

jeter23

jeter23

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It has certainly been an unusual offseason, but the two sides seem to be getting closer and it looks like there will be many free agents this offseason. I will list the big name free agents, along with some that are rumored to be cut/traded and likely finding a new team. Make your predictions for all, or just a select few.

Peyton Manning

Michael Vick

Kevin Kolb

Matt Flynn

Marc Bulger

Donovan McNabb

Carson Palmer

Matt Hasselbeck

DeAngelo Williams

Ahmad Bradshaw

Joseph Addai

Cedric Benson

Michael Bush

Jason Snelling

Darren Sproles

Ronnie Brown

Santonio Holmes

Braylon Edwards

Sidney Rice

Lance Moore

Steve Breaston

James Jones

Chad Ochocinco

Steve Smith (NYG)

Santana Moss

Steve Smith (CAR)

Malcolm Floyd

Plaxico Burress

Randy Moss

Mike Sims-Walker

Jacoby Jones

Mark Clayton

Zach Miller

 
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Less of a prediction and more of a wish and hope with all my heart...

Sindey Rice to San Diego or Indianapolis.

VJax probably gone, only Gates to contend with, Rivers is awesome.

Peyton is GQBOAT, he isn't gonna leave Indy, Garcon has stone hands sometimes, Wayne aging...

And I own Rice quite a few places.

San Diego is actually completely realistic if you thin about it. I don't know how much Rice can get anywhere else, but the injury last season should have him discounted enough for the Lord of No Rings to sign him, right?

 
Peyton Manning - Indy - will be franchised

Michael Vick - He's a UFA? franchised

Kevin Kolb - traded to Arizona

Matt Flynn - re-signs in GB

Marc Bulger - re-sgins in Balt

Donovan McNabb - Minnesota

Carson Palmer - Retires

Matt Hasselbeck - Retires

DeAngelo Williams - Denver

Ahmad Bradshaw - NYG

Joseph Addai - Indy

Cedric Benson - Cincy

Michael Bush - SD - AJ has had his eye on him for a long time

Jason Snelling - Atl

Darren Sproles - Miami

Ronnie Brown - this is a head scratcher, I think he might be done? Washington?

Santonio Holmes - NYJ

Braylon Edwards - Chicago

Sidney Rice - Minnesota

Lance Moore - NO

Steve Breaston - Arz

James Jones - Chicago

Chad Ochocinco - NE

Steve Smith (NYG) - NYG

Santana Moss - Wash

Steve Smith (CAR) - SD (isnt he under contract??)

Malcolm Floyd - SD

Plaxico Burress - Oak

Randy Moss - NYJ

Mike Sims-Walker - Seattle I herd he knows some girl up there

Jacoby Jones - Hou

Mark Clayton - STL

Zach Miller - Oak

 
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Peyton Manning - Indy - will be franchisedMichael Vick - He's a UFA? franchised Steve Smith (CAR) - SD (isnt he under contract??)
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I am pretty sure that the franchise tag period has already passed. Also, Smith is under contract, but I included some guys that are rumored to be cut/traded.
 
Peyton Manning-Indy

Michael Vick-Philly

Kevin Kolb-Seattle

Matt Flynn-Green Bay

Marc Bulger-Washington

Donovan McNabb-Arizona

Carson Palmer-Miami

Matt Hasselbeck-Cincy

DeAngelo Williams-Denver

Ahmad Bradshaw-Giants

Joseph Addai-Indy

Cedric Benson-Cincy

Michael Bush-Oakland

Jason Snelling-Indy

Darren Sproles-Washington

Ronnie Brown-Miami

Santonio Holmes-Jets

Braylon Edwards-San Diego

Sidney Rice-Vikings

Lance Moore-Chicago

Steve Breaston-Rams

James Jones-Seattle

Chad Ochocinco-Washington

Steve Smith (NYG)-Giants

Santana Moss-Cleveland

Steve Smith (CAR)-Jacksonville

Malcolm Floyd-Cincy

Plaxico Burress-Oakland

Randy Moss-Jacksonville

Mike Sims-Walker-Tennessee

Jacoby Jones-Houston

Mark Clayton-Rams

Zach Miller-Oakland

 
Peyton Manning- Indy

Michael Vick- Philly

Kevin Kolb- Arizona

Matt Flynn- GB

Marc Bulger- Tennessee

Donovan McNabb- Minnesota

Carson Palmer- Miami

Matt Hasselbeck- Seattle

DeAngelo Williams- DEN

Ahmad Bradshaw- NYG

Joseph Addai- Indy

Cedric Benson- Buffalo

Michael Bush- Cincy

Jason Snelling- Philly

Darren Sproles- Atlanta

Ronnie Brown- New Enlgand

Santonio Holmes- NYJ

Braylon Edwards- CHIC

Sidney Rice- MIN

Lance Moore- CAR

Steve Breaston-SEA

James Jones-OAK

Chad Ochocinco-WAS

Steve Smith (NYG)-NYG

Santana Moss-NE

Steve Smith (CAR)-SD

Malcolm Floyd-SD

Plaxico Burress-PIT

Randy Moss-NYJ

Mike Sims-Walker-CIN

Jacoby Jones-HOU

Mark Clayton-STL

Zach Miller - OAK

other--

Jerome Harrison-MIA

Willis McGahee-SD

 
'jeter23 said:
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Peyton Manning - Indy - will be franchisedMichael Vick - He's a UFA? franchised Steve Smith (CAR) - SD (isnt he under contract??)
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I am pretty sure that the franchise tag period has already passed. Also, Smith is under contract, but I included some guys that are rumored to be cut/traded.
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Both were franchised before the lockout though.Also I don't think Matt Flynn is a FA until next year and Thompson has stated that he will not be traded.
 
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Peyton Manning - Indy - will be franchisedMichael Vick - He's a UFA? franchised Kevin Kolb - traded to ArizonaMatt Flynn - re-signs in GBMarc Bulger - re-sgins in BaltDonovan McNabb - MinnesotaCarson Palmer - Retires Matt Hasselbeck - RetiresDeAngelo Williams - DenverAhmad Bradshaw - NYGJoseph Addai - IndyCedric Benson - CincyMichael Bush - SD - AJ has had his eye on him for a long time Jason Snelling - AtlDarren Sproles - MiamiRonnie Brown - this is a head scratcher, I think he might be done? Washington?Santonio Holmes - NYJBraylon Edwards - ChicagoSidney Rice - MinnesotaLance Moore - NOSteve Breaston - ArzJames Jones - Chicago Chad Ochocinco - NESteve Smith (NYG) - NYGSantana Moss - WashSteve Smith (CAR) - SD (isnt he under contract??) Malcolm Floyd - SD Plaxico Burress - OakRandy Moss - NYJMike Sims-Walker - Seattle I herd he knows some girl up thereJacoby Jones - HouMark Clayton - STLZach Miller - Oak
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Like this one the best
 
'Dr. Octopus said:
'jeter23 said:
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Peyton Manning - Indy - will be franchisedMichael Vick - He's a UFA? franchised Steve Smith (CAR) - SD (isnt he under contract??)
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I am pretty sure that the franchise tag period has already passed. Also, Smith is under contract, but I included some guys that are rumored to be cut/traded.
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Both were franchised before the lockout though.Also I don't think Matt Flynn is a FA until next year and Thompson has stated that he will not be traded.
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Thanks for the first, no one thought they were going elsewhere anyway. I am not sure I believe Thompson though. Very doubtful any GM would come out and say he is looking to move a player.
 
'jeter23 said:
'Dr. Octopus said:
'jeter23 said:
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Peyton Manning - Indy - will be franchisedMichael Vick - He's a UFA? franchised Steve Smith (CAR) - SD (isnt he under contract??)
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I am pretty sure that the franchise tag period has already passed. Also, Smith is under contract, but I included some guys that are rumored to be cut/traded.
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Both were franchised before the lockout though.Also I don't think Matt Flynn is a FA until next year and Thompson has stated that he will not be traded.
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Thanks for the first, no one thought they were going elsewhere anyway. I am not sure I believe Thompson though. Very doubtful any GM would come out and say he is looking to move a player.
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I think Thompson is generally a straight shooter and it makes sense that a team looking for a Super Bowl repeat isn't going to trade their backup QB that knows the system. Flynn is good enough to keep the Pack afloat should Rodgers miss a game or three (and he did have two concussions last season).
 
My guesses:

Peyton Manning - Franchise Tag (staying in Indy)

Michael Vick - Franchise Tag (staying in Philly)

Kevin Kolb - traded to Arizona

Matt Flynn - staying in GB

Marc Bulger - Miami (will compete with Henne)

Donovan McNabb - Minnesota

Carson Palmer - retires for the season, then Seattle

Matt Hasselbeck - Tennessee

DeAngelo Williams - Tampa Bay ( :mellow: )

Ahmad Bradshaw - NYG

Joseph Addai - Indy

Cedric Benson - Cinncy

Michael Bush - Oakland

Jason Snelling - Denver

Darren Sproles - Miami

Ronnie Brown - unsigned until season starts and a RB goes down

Santonio Holmes - NYJ

Braylon Edwards - Chicago

Sidney Rice - Seattle

Lance Moore - NO

Steve Breaston - Minnesota

James Jones - Miami

Chad Ochocinco - New England

Steve Smith (NYG) - NYG (PUP list)

Santana Moss - Washington

Steve Smith (CAR) - San Diego

Malcolm Floyd - New Orleans

Plaxico Burress - Washington

Randy Moss - NYJ

Mike Sims-Walker - KC

Jacoby Jones - Houston

Mark Clayton - St. Louis

Zach Miller - Oakland

 
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Bringing back DeAngelo Williams on to-do list Tue Jun 28, 02:39 AM Signing impending free-agent Carolina Panthers RB DeAngelo Williams is a top priority for the team once the lockout is lifted, although the team still has a younger RB Jonathan Stewart under contract through 2012. Still, after a salary dump in 2010, the team has enough money to sign Williams if they decide that's best.
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Got a feeling that if Denver wants DeAngelo they will probably have to trade for him.
 
'Dr. Octopus said:
My guesses:Peyton Manning - Franchise Tag (staying in Indy)Michael Vick - Franchise Tag (staying in Philly)Kevin Kolb - traded to ArizonaMatt Flynn - staying in GBMarc Bulger - Miami (will compete with Henne)Donovan McNabb - MinnesotaCarson Palmer - retires for the season, then SeattleMatt Hasselbeck - TennesseeDeAngelo Williams - Tampa Bay ( :mellow: )Ahmad Bradshaw - NYGJoseph Addai - IndyCedric Benson - CinncyMichael Bush - OaklandJason Snelling - DenverDarren Sproles - MiamiRonnie Brown - unsigned until season starts and a RB goes downSantonio Holmes - NYJBraylon Edwards - ChicagoSidney Rice - SeattleLance Moore - NOSteve Breaston - MinnesotaJames Jones - MiamiChad Ochocinco - New EnglandSteve Smith (NYG) - NYG (PUP list) Santana Moss - WashingtonSteve Smith (CAR) - San DiegoMalcolm Floyd - New OrleansPlaxico Burress - WashingtonRandy Moss - NYJMike Sims-Walker - KCJacoby Jones - HoustonMark Clayton - St. LouisZach Miller - Oakland
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I don't think palmer will retire and come back. Of he retires, his contract year didn't count, so he stays under contract with cinncy. If they wont trade him now, I doubt they wait a year or 2 to trade him. His value will just go down
 
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Bringing back DeAngelo Williams on to-do list Tue Jun 28, 02:39 AM

Signing impending free-agent Carolina Panthers RB DeAngelo Williams is a top priority for the team once the lockout is lifted, although the team still has a younger RB Jonathan Stewart under contract through 2012. Still, after a salary dump in 2010, the team has enough money to sign Williams if they decide that's best.
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Got a feeling that if Denver wants DeAngelo they will probably have to trade for him.

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He will be aa free agent, Carolina will have no rights to trade him

 
I think Ronnie Brown winds up in Baltimore backing up Ray Rice. Willis McGahee is getting cut and they have no one else on the roster capable of sharing the load. If not Brown they could look at Mike Bush or Jason Snelling.

 
Peyton Manning - Indy

Michael Vick - Phi

Kevin Kolb - Az

Matt Flynn - GB

Marc Bulger - Bal

Donovan McNabb - Cincy

Carson Palmer - 'retires'

Matt Hasselbeck - Tenn

Vince Young - Mia (thought I'd throw this in here)

DeAngelo Williams - Den

Ahmad Bradshaw - NYG

Joseph Addai - Indy

Cedric Benson - Cincy

Michael Bush - Oak

Jason Snelling - Atl

Darren Sproles - Mia

Ronnie Brown - Chi

Santonio Holmes - NYJ

Braylon Edwards - Sea

Sidney Rice - Minny

Lance Moore - NO

Steve Breaston - Az

James Jones - Car

Chad Ochocinco - NE

Steve Smith (NYG) - NYG

Santana Moss - Was

Steve Smith (CAR) - SD

Malcolm Floyd - SD

Plaxico Burress - Was

Randy Moss - NYJ

Mike Sims-Walker - Oak

Jacoby Jones - Hou

Mark Clayton - StL

Zach Miller - Oak

 
'Blackjacks said:
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Bringing back DeAngelo Williams on to-do list Tue Jun 28, 02:39 AM

Signing impending free-agent Carolina Panthers RB DeAngelo Williams is a top priority for the team once the lockout is lifted, although the team still has a younger RB Jonathan Stewart under contract through 2012. Still, after a salary dump in 2010, the team has enough money to sign Williams if they decide that's best.
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Got a feeling that if Denver wants DeAngelo they will probably have to trade for him.

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He will be aa free agent, Carolina will have no rights to trade him
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we really dont know, they could tag him easily. I bet you when the new CBA is signed the teams get a couple of days to designate tags.
 
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
'Blackjacks said:
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Bringing back DeAngelo Williams on to-do list Tue Jun 28, 02:39 AM

Signing impending free-agent Carolina Panthers RB DeAngelo Williams is a top priority for the team once the lockout is lifted, although the team still has a younger RB Jonathan Stewart under contract through 2012. Still, after a salary dump in 2010, the team has enough money to sign Williams if they decide that's best.
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Got a feeling that if Denver wants DeAngelo they will probably have to trade for him.

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He will be aa free agent, Carolina will have no rights to trade him
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we really dont know, they could tag him easily. I bet you when the new CBA is signed the teams get a couple of days to designate tags.
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Franchise Tag him? Do they really want to get stuck paying him the average salary of the 5 highest paid RBs for one season where they are probably not going to be a contender anyway? That would seem unlikely, although possible I guess.
 
'Dr. Octopus said:
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
'Blackjacks said:
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Bringing back DeAngelo Williams on to-do list Tue Jun 28, 02:39 AM

Signing impending free-agent Carolina Panthers RB DeAngelo Williams is a top priority for the team once the lockout is lifted, although the team still has a younger RB Jonathan Stewart under contract through 2012. Still, after a salary dump in 2010, the team has enough money to sign Williams if they decide that's best.
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Got a feeling that if Denver wants DeAngelo they will probably have to trade for him.

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He will be aa free agent, Carolina will have no rights to trade him
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we really dont know, they could tag him easily. I bet you when the new CBA is signed the teams get a couple of days to designate tags.
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Franchise Tag him? Do they really want to get stuck paying him the average salary of the 5 highest paid RBs for one season where they are probably not going to be a contender anyway? That would seem unlikely, although possible I guess.
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he was already tagged with a first and third round tender before the CBA expired.
Panthers | Hope DeAngelo Williams returns Sun May 22, 02:17 PM

The Carolina Panthers believes RB DeAngelo Williams is their best running back and hope he re-signs with the team once free agency begins.

Our view: Williams was tagged with a first- and third-round tender, but may be an unrestricted free agent depending on the rules in place for a new Collective Bargaining Agreement. If he's restricted then we don't think many teams will be willing to give up that much to get him. However, if he's unrestricted we could see several teams interested in adding the star back. Denver, and former Panthers coach John Fox, could be interested in adding Williams to compete with Knowshon Moreno for the starting job.
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'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
'Dr. Octopus said:
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
'Blackjacks said:
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Bringing back DeAngelo Williams on to-do list Tue Jun 28, 02:39 AM

Signing impending free-agent Carolina Panthers RB DeAngelo Williams is a top priority for the team once the lockout is lifted, although the team still has a younger RB Jonathan Stewart under contract through 2012. Still, after a salary dump in 2010, the team has enough money to sign Williams if they decide that's best.
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Got a feeling that if Denver wants DeAngelo they will probably have to trade for him.

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He will be aa free agent, Carolina will have no rights to trade him
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we really dont know, they could tag him easily. I bet you when the new CBA is signed the teams get a couple of days to designate tags.
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Franchise Tag him? Do they really want to get stuck paying him the average salary of the 5 highest paid RBs for one season where they are probably not going to be a contender anyway? That would seem unlikely, although possible I guess.
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he was already tagged with a first and third round tender before the CBA expired.
Panthers | Hope DeAngelo Williams returns Sun May 22, 02:17 PM

The Carolina Panthers believes RB DeAngelo Williams is their best running back and hope he re-signs with the team once free agency begins.

Our view: Williams was tagged with a first- and third-round tender, but may be an unrestricted free agent depending on the rules in place for a new Collective Bargaining Agreement. If he's restricted then we don't think many teams will be willing to give up that much to get him. However, if he's unrestricted we could see several teams interested in adding the star back. Denver, and former Panthers coach John Fox, could be interested in adding Williams to compete with Knowshon Moreno for the starting job.
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We all knew that already - its not expected to hold up though since he has five seasons in the league.
 
Well now all the talk is about teams having up to 3 "right of first refusal tags" once the new CBA is reached. I'm not sure I fully understand it, but from what I picked up this morning on Sirius NFL radio, it means that if Denver gives D Will an offer of lets say $4M per year, Carolina can just match that offer and D Will would be "stuck" in Carolina for another year. If anyone understand the situation better, could you please explain if I'm incorrect?

As a recent recipient of J Stew in a dynasty trade, and with Carolina having more cap space than any team (and likely being REQUIRED to spend a lot of money to get back to that cap number), I'm fairly concerned here.

 
'matttyl said:
Well now all the talk is about teams having up to 3 "right of first refusal tags" once the new CBA is reached. I'm not sure I fully understand it, but from what I picked up this morning on Sirius NFL radio, it means that if Denver gives D Will an offer of lets say $4M per year, Carolina can just match that offer and D Will would be "stuck" in Carolina for another year. If anyone understand the situation better, could you please explain if I'm incorrect?As a recent recipient of J Stew in a dynasty trade, and with Carolina having more cap space than any team (and likely being REQUIRED to spend a lot of money to get back to that cap number), I'm fairly concerned here.
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you should be. Carolina wants him (DeAngelo) back. And we really dont know what the new CBA will look like.
 
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
'matttyl said:
Well now all the talk is about teams having up to 3 "right of first refusal tags" once the new CBA is reached. I'm not sure I fully understand it, but from what I picked up this morning on Sirius NFL radio, it means that if Denver gives D Will an offer of lets say $4M per year, Carolina can just match that offer and D Will would be "stuck" in Carolina for another year. If anyone understand the situation better, could you please explain if I'm incorrect?As a recent recipient of J Stew in a dynasty trade, and with Carolina having more cap space than any team (and likely being REQUIRED to spend a lot of money to get back to that cap number), I'm fairly concerned here.
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you should be. Carolina wants him (DeAngelo) back. And we really dont know what the new CBA will look like.
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Great.....so all the above predictions of DeAngelo going to Denver would be BS since all Carolina has to do is say "we'll match it", and D Will has to stay? How is this any different than a team now having 3 franchise tags? I mean, with a franchise tag they would have to pay the player the average of the top 5 at his position, now all they have to do is match the highest offer the player obtains, which would likely be lower than that number.
 
'matttyl said:
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
'matttyl said:
Well now all the talk is about teams having up to 3 "right of first refusal tags" once the new CBA is reached. I'm not sure I fully understand it, but from what I picked up this morning on Sirius NFL radio, it means that if Denver gives D Will an offer of lets say $4M per year, Carolina can just match that offer and D Will would be "stuck" in Carolina for another year. If anyone understand the situation better, could you please explain if I'm incorrect?As a recent recipient of J Stew in a dynasty trade, and with Carolina having more cap space than any team (and likely being REQUIRED to spend a lot of money to get back to that cap number), I'm fairly concerned here.
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you should be. Carolina wants him (DeAngelo) back. And we really dont know what the new CBA will look like.
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Great.....so all the above predictions of DeAngelo going to Denver would be BS since all Carolina has to do is say "we'll match it", and D Will has to stay? How is this any different than a team now having 3 franchise tags? I mean, with a franchise tag they would have to pay the player the average of the top 5 at his position, now all they have to do is match the highest offer the player obtains, which would likely be lower than that number.
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No Carolina might take the draft picks in a trade from Denver, or now Denver might not bother going after him at all.But yes the Stewart/DeAngelo situation is merky
 
Let me see if I understand this...

Denver offers D Will $4M a year. Carolina matches it, D Will is a Panther. Denver now trades picks to Carolina for D Will. D Will is now a Bronco and they are paying him that same $4M a year after giving up the picks?

 
'matttyl said:
Let me see if I understand this...Denver offers D Will $4M a year. Carolina matches it, D Will is a Panther. Denver now trades picks to Carolina for D Will. D Will is now a Bronco and they are paying him that same $4M a year after giving up the picks?
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From what I had read the "right of first refusal" proposal isn't likely to be part of the new CBA - only a handful of owners favored it and the players will certainly balk at it.The Panthers will have the money to spend on Williams should they choose to do so. Stewart owners need to hope that they think they are better off spending that money otherwise. Williams will be 28, the team does not look like a contender, and they have viable options in Stewart, Goodson and Sutton. On the other hand, Williams is probably popular with the fanbase and the team will run heavily. At this point, it's really a 50-50 proposition.
 
I read that Michael Bush is being considered a 3 year player, not 4, so he won't be a UFA. That means the 1st and 3rd rd tender placed on him makes it virtually impossible that he will be on another team in 2011.

 
'Dr. Octopus said:
'matttyl said:
Let me see if I understand this...Denver offers D Will $4M a year. Carolina matches it, D Will is a Panther. Denver now trades picks to Carolina for D Will. D Will is now a Bronco and they are paying him that same $4M a year after giving up the picks?
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From what I had read the "right of first refusal" proposal isn't likely to be part of the new CBA - only a handful of owners favored it and the players will certainly balk at it.The Panthers will have the money to spend on Williams should they choose to do so. Stewart owners need to hope that they think they are better off spending that money otherwise. Williams will be 28, the team does not look like a contender, and they have viable options in Stewart, Goodson and Sutton. On the other hand, Williams is probably popular with the fanbase and the team will run heavily. At this point, it's really a 50-50 proposition.
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Its in the teams best interest to keep(meaning tag) DeAngelo and trade him to Denver for players/picks. I doubt they let him walk scott free if the CBA has a way to prevent it
 
Peyton Manning-IND

Michael Vick-PHI

Kevin Kolb-SEA

Matt Flynn-GB

Marc Bulger-WAS

Donovan McNabb-MIN

Carson Palmer-Retired

Matt Hasselbeck-TEN

DeAngelo Williams-DEN

Ahmad Bradshaw-NYG

Joseph Addai-IND

Cedric Benson-MIA

Michael Bush-CIN

Jason Snelling-ATL

Darren Sproles-NYG

Ronnie Brown-CIN

Santonio Holmes-NYJ

Braylon Edwards-CHI

Sidney Rice-NE

Lance Moore-SD

Steve Breaston-ARZ

James Jones-HOU

Chad Ochocinco-JAX

Steve Smith (NYG)-NYG

Santana Moss-WAS

Steve Smith (CAR)-SD

Malcolm Floyd-STL

Plaxico Burress-MIA

Randy Moss-Not even gonna try

Mike Sims-Walker-MIA

Jacoby Jones-IND

Mark Clayton-STL

Zach Miller-OAK

 
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
'Dr. Octopus said:
'matttyl said:
Let me see if I understand this...Denver offers D Will $4M a year. Carolina matches it, D Will is a Panther. Denver now trades picks to Carolina for D Will. D Will is now a Bronco and they are paying him that same $4M a year after giving up the picks?
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From what I had read the "right of first refusal" proposal isn't likely to be part of the new CBA - only a handful of owners favored it and the players will certainly balk at it.The Panthers will have the money to spend on Williams should they choose to do so. Stewart owners need to hope that they think they are better off spending that money otherwise. Williams will be 28, the team does not look like a contender, and they have viable options in Stewart, Goodson and Sutton. On the other hand, Williams is probably popular with the fanbase and the team will run heavily. At this point, it's really a 50-50 proposition.
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Its in the teams best interest to keep(meaning tag) DeAngelo and trade him to Denver for players/picks. I doubt they let him walk scott free if the CBA has a way to prevent it
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I agree - I just don't think there's going to be anyway for them to prevent it. Williams is a five year player he will most likely be an UFA under the new CBA and will go wherever he wants. That may or may not end up being Carolina.
 
'Hoss_Cartwright said:
I read that Michael Bush is being considered a 3 year player, not 4, so he won't be a UFA. That means the 1st and 3rd rd tender placed on him makes it virtually impossible that he will be on another team in 2011.
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How is this possible? He's been under contract to an NFL team for 4 seasons, so how could he be considered a 3-year player?
 
'Bayhawks said:
'Hoss_Cartwright said:
I read that Michael Bush is being considered a 3 year player, not 4, so he won't be a UFA. That means the 1st and 3rd rd tender placed on him makes it virtually impossible that he will be on another team in 2011.
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How is this possible? He's been under contract to an NFL team for 4 seasons, so how could he be considered a 3-year player?
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I wondered the same..... found this from Rotoworld
FOX Sports' Adam Caplan is now adamant that Michael Bush's free agency will be restricted under the new Collective Bargaining Agreement.Citing NFLPA records, Caplan reports that Bush has only three accrued seasons after spending his rookie year on the Non-Football Injury list. Bush was eligible for that list because he suffered his injury at Louisville, and not in a Raiders camp or game. He did not land on Physically Unable to Perform or I.R. -- it was NFI. This will make Bush much easier for the Raiders to retain, since they have tendered him at the highest possible
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'Birdie048 said:
'Bayhawks said:
'Hoss_Cartwright said:
I read that Michael Bush is being considered a 3 year player, not 4, so he won't be a UFA. That means the 1st and 3rd rd tender placed on him makes it virtually impossible that he will be on another team in 2011.
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How is this possible? He's been under contract to an NFL team for 4 seasons, so how could he be considered a 3-year player?
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I wondered the same..... found this from Rotoworld
FOX Sports' Adam Caplan is now adamant that Michael Bush's free agency will be restricted under the new Collective Bargaining Agreement.Citing NFLPA records, Caplan reports that Bush has only three accrued seasons after spending his rookie year on the Non-Football Injury list. Bush was eligible for that list because he suffered his injury at Louisville, and not in a Raiders camp or game. He did not land on Physically Unable to Perform or I.R. -- it was NFI. This will make Bush much easier for the Raiders to retain, since they have tendered him at the highest possible
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Thanks for the link. Caplan isn't making much sense, though. The NFL isn't college. Players don't get "redshirt" years. If a player is under contract, he's under contract. If the news about the new CBA is accurate, players who've been in the NFL for 4 years should be UFAs.Willis McGahee missed his entire 1st year on the non-football injury list, but his original 5-year contract was due to expire after the 2007 season (which would have been his 1st year on the non football injury list & 4 years where he played). That's 1 reason the Bills traded him before the 2007 season, because they didn't think he'd resign in Buffalo.
 
'Birdie048 said:
'Bayhawks said:
'Hoss_Cartwright said:
I read that Michael Bush is being considered a 3 year player, not 4, so he won't be a UFA. That means the 1st and 3rd rd tender placed on him makes it virtually impossible that he will be on another team in 2011.
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How is this possible? He's been under contract to an NFL team for 4 seasons, so how could he be considered a 3-year player?
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I wondered the same..... found this from Rotoworld
FOX Sports' Adam Caplan is now adamant that Michael Bush's free agency will be restricted under the new Collective Bargaining Agreement.Citing NFLPA records, Caplan reports that Bush has only three accrued seasons after spending his rookie year on the Non-Football Injury list. Bush was eligible for that list because he suffered his injury at Louisville, and not in a Raiders camp or game. He did not land on Physically Unable to Perform or I.R. -- it was NFI. This will make Bush much easier for the Raiders to retain, since they have tendered him at the highest possible
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Because the NFI list is no different then a player holding out or retiring, as far as the contract goes. If you don't play in a certain number of games (like how vjax had to last year) then the year doesn't count towards fulfilling his contract
 
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Bringing back DeAngelo Williams on to-do list Tue Jun 28, 02:39 AM Signing impending free-agent Carolina Panthers RB DeAngelo Williams is a top priority for the team once the lockout is lifted, although the team still has a younger RB Jonathan Stewart under contract through 2012. Still, after a salary dump in 2010, the team has enough money to sign Williams if they decide that's best.
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Got a feeling that if Denver wants DeAngelo they will probably have to trade for him.
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Depending on the new CBA, I think the odds are more in favor of him becoming an unrestricted FA with 4+ years of service and not a player that CAR can trade.
 
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
'Dr. Octopus said:
'matttyl said:
Let me see if I understand this...Denver offers D Will $4M a year. Carolina matches it, D Will is a Panther. Denver now trades picks to Carolina for D Will. D Will is now a Bronco and they are paying him that same $4M a year after giving up the picks?
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From what I had read the "right of first refusal" proposal isn't likely to be part of the new CBA - only a handful of owners favored it and the players will certainly balk at it.The Panthers will have the money to spend on Williams should they choose to do so. Stewart owners need to hope that they think they are better off spending that money otherwise. Williams will be 28, the team does not look like a contender, and they have viable options in Stewart, Goodson and Sutton. On the other hand, Williams is probably popular with the fanbase and the team will run heavily. At this point, it's really a 50-50 proposition.
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Its in the teams best interest to keep(meaning tag) DeAngelo and trade him to Denver for players/picks. I doubt they let him walk scott free if the CBA has a way to prevent it
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Franchise tag him? DeAngelo Williams? That requires that they pay him somewhere in the top-5 salaries at his position? And then trade him? Denver--no, in fact, no team--is going to give up picks AND pay him that kind of money. Carolina won't want that kind of salary on the guy when they already have 2 very good RBs.They try and make a push for him in the FA market and hope he likes Charlotte. Otherwise, he's as good as gone.
 
'D.J. said:
'Birdie048 said:
'Bayhawks said:
'Hoss_Cartwright said:
I read that Michael Bush is being considered a 3 year player, not 4, so he won't be a UFA. That means the 1st and 3rd rd tender placed on him makes it virtually impossible that he will be on another team in 2011.
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How is this possible? He's been under contract to an NFL team for 4 seasons, so how could he be considered a 3-year player?
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I wondered the same..... found this from Rotoworld
FOX Sports' Adam Caplan is now adamant that Michael Bush's free agency will be restricted under the new Collective Bargaining Agreement.Citing NFLPA records, Caplan reports that Bush has only three accrued seasons after spending his rookie year on the Non-Football Injury list. Bush was eligible for that list because he suffered his injury at Louisville, and not in a Raiders camp or game. He did not land on Physically Unable to Perform or I.R. -- it was NFI. This will make Bush much easier for the Raiders to retain, since they have tendered him at the highest possible
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Because the NFI list is no different then a player holding out or retiring, as far as the contract goes. If you don't play in a certain number of games (like how vjax had to last year) then the year doesn't count towards fulfilling his contract
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I'm not sure you are correct. VJax's situation is different, as he didn't report to the team. Bush was with the team that year, rehabbing, learning the plays, etc. The TEAM wouldn't play him, it wasn't his decision. In addition, he was paid by the Raiders for that year, while VJax (or any hold-out) is not. Furthermore, if what you say is correct, why did McGahee's 1st year, when he was on the non-football injury list, count towards his contract?
 
Peyton Manning - Indy

Michael Vick - Philly

Kevin Kolb - Arizona

Matt Flynn - GB

Marc Bulger - Baltimore

Donovan McNabb - Minnesota

Carson Palmer - Seattle

Matt Hasselbeck - Tennesse

Vinc Young - Miami

DeAngelo Williams - Denver

Ahmad Bradshaw - NYG

Joseph Addai - Indy

Cedric Benson - Cinncy

Michael Bush - Oakland

Jason Snelling - Atl

Darren Sproles - Miami

Ronnie Brown - Baltimore

Santonio Holmes - NYJ

Braylon Edwards - Chicago

Sidney Rice - New England

Lance Moore - New Orleans

Steve Breaston - Arizona

James Jones - SF

Chad Ochocinco - Washington

Steve Smith (NYG) - Miami

Santana Moss - Seattle

Steve Smith (CAR) - Carolina

Malcolm Floyd - Minnesota

Plaxico Burress - Jax

Randy Moss - NYJ

Mike Sims-Walker - Miami

Jacoby Jones - Houston

Mark Clayton - STL

Zach Miller - Oakland

 
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Peyton Manning - IndyMichael Vick - PhiKevin Kolb - AzMatt Flynn - GBMarc Bulger - BalDonovan McNabb - CincyCarson Palmer - 'retires'Matt Hasselbeck - TennVince Young - Mia (thought I'd throw this in here)DeAngelo Williams - DenAhmad Bradshaw - NYGJoseph Addai - IndyCedric Benson - CincyMichael Bush - OakJason Snelling - AtlDarren Sproles - MiaRonnie Brown - ChiSantonio Holmes - NYJBraylon Edwards - SeaSidney Rice - MinnyLance Moore - NOSteve Breaston - AzJames Jones - CarChad Ochocinco - NESteve Smith (NYG) - NYGSantana Moss - WasSteve Smith (CAR) - SDMalcolm Floyd - SDPlaxico Burress - WasRandy Moss - NYJMike Sims-Walker - OakJacoby Jones - HouMark Clayton - StLZach Miller - Oak
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This is a pretty good list. I can see most all of this happening.
 
'hook014 said:
'hostile said:
Peyton Manning - IndyMichael Vick - PhiKevin Kolb - AzMatt Flynn - GBMarc Bulger - BalDonovan McNabb - CincyCarson Palmer - 'retires'Matt Hasselbeck - TennVince Young - Mia (thought I'd throw this in here)DeAngelo Williams - DenAhmad Bradshaw - NYGJoseph Addai - IndyCedric Benson - CincyMichael Bush - OakJason Snelling - AtlDarren Sproles - MiaRonnie Brown - ChiSantonio Holmes - NYJBraylon Edwards - SeaSidney Rice - MinnyLance Moore - NOSteve Breaston - AzJames Jones - CarChad Ochocinco - NESteve Smith (NYG) - NYGSantana Moss - WasSteve Smith (CAR) - SDMalcolm Floyd - SDPlaxico Burress - WasRandy Moss - NYJMike Sims-Walker - OakJacoby Jones - HouMark Clayton - StLZach Miller - Oak
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This is a pretty good list. I can see most all of this happening.
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Why would Chicago sign Ronnie Brown and not a WR???
 
A lot of talk on Sidney Rice in this thread. I do think that SD will be shopping Vincent Jackson. He will come at a high price with a lot of negotiations because of the franchise tag. Rice would make a lot of sense in the SD offense, but when the free agency window opens things are going to be moving fast. I do not think that SD will invest in Sidney Rice without moving Vincent Jackson first. I do not think Sidney Rice wants to me "in limbo" very long with camp just around the corner.

I could see Sidney Rice with the Seahawks, 49ers, Ravens, Jaguars, Bears, or Jets.

 
Love trying to predict this stuff

Peyton Manning - INDY

Michael Vick - PHILLY

Kevin Kolb - SEATTLE

Kyle Orton - ARIZONA (trade)

Matt Flynn - GREEN BAY

Marc Bulger - CINCINNATI

Donovan McNabb - BUFFALO

Carson Palmer - Retires

Matt Hasselbeck - TENNESEE

Vince Young - MIAMI

DeAngelo Williams - DENVER

Ahmad Bradshaw - NYG

Joseph Addai - COLTS

Cedric Benson - CINCINNATTI

Michael Bush - OAKLAND

Jason Snelling - RAMS

Darren Sproles - MIAMI

Ronnie Brown - SEATTLE

Santonio Holmes - JETS

Braylon Edwards - JAGUARS

Sidney Rice - BEARS

Lance Moore - SAINTS

Steve Breaston - SEATTLE

James Jones - SEATTLE

Chad Ochocinco - NEW ENGLAND

Steve Smith (NYG) - NYG

Santana Moss - RAMS

Steve Smith (CAR) - CHARGERS

Malcolm Floyd - CHARGERS

Plaxico Burress - NYJ

Randy Moss - NYJ

Mike Sims-Walker - PANTHERS

Jacoby Jones - TEXANS

Mark Clayton - RAMS

Zach Miller - OAK

 
'barker132000 said:
Love trying to predict this stuffPeyton Manning - INDYMichael Vick - PHILLYKevin Kolb - SEATTLEKyle Orton - ARIZONA (trade)Matt Flynn - GREEN BAYMarc Bulger - CINCINNATIDonovan McNabb - BUFFALOCarson Palmer - RetiresMatt Hasselbeck - TENNESEEVince Young - MIAMIDeAngelo Williams - DENVERAhmad Bradshaw - NYGJoseph Addai - COLTSCedric Benson - CINCINNATTIMichael Bush - OAKLANDJason Snelling - RAMSDarren Sproles - MIAMIRonnie Brown - SEATTLESantonio Holmes - JETSBraylon Edwards - JAGUARSSidney Rice - BEARSLance Moore - SAINTSSteve Breaston - SEATTLEJames Jones - SEATTLEChad Ochocinco - NEW ENGLANDSteve Smith (NYG) - NYGSantana Moss - RAMSSteve Smith (CAR) - CHARGERSMalcolm Floyd - CHARGERSPlaxico Burress - NYJRandy Moss - NYJMike Sims-Walker - PANTHERSJacoby Jones - TEXANSMark Clayton - RAMSZach Miller - OAK
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I really like two predictions you had:1) Kyle Orton to Arizona, Great fit. Orton is a veteran that will connect with all the offensive weapons Arizona has right away. Much better than trading for Kolb.2) Braylon Edwards to Jaguars. They have a bunch of short WRs currently, Edwards will help offset the rest and gain attention away from M. Lewis and MJD.
 
'benson_will_lead_the_way said:
'hook014 said:
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Peyton Manning - IndyMichael Vick - PhiKevin Kolb - AzMatt Flynn - GBMarc Bulger - BalDonovan McNabb - CincyCarson Palmer - 'retires'Matt Hasselbeck - TennVince Young - Mia (thought I'd throw this in here)DeAngelo Williams - DenAhmad Bradshaw - NYGJoseph Addai - IndyCedric Benson - CincyMichael Bush - OakJason Snelling - AtlDarren Sproles - MiaRonnie Brown - ChiSantonio Holmes - NYJBraylon Edwards - SeaSidney Rice - MinnyLance Moore - NOSteve Breaston - AzJames Jones - CarChad Ochocinco - NESteve Smith (NYG) - NYGSantana Moss - WasSteve Smith (CAR) - SDMalcolm Floyd - SDPlaxico Burress - WasRandy Moss - NYJMike Sims-Walker - OakJacoby Jones - HouMark Clayton - StLZach Miller - Oak
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This is a pretty good list. I can see most all of this happening.
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Why would Chicago sign Ronnie Brown and not a WR???
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I think it's a good list because FF players are over estimating how much actual movement we'll see w/r/t players changing teams. This list is more realistic IMO.As far as the Bears, why did they sign Chester Taylor and not an impact WR then? Brown wouldn't surprise me now.What would surprise me is if they signed a difference maker at WR now. They are who they are.
 
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