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Ray Rice will be the #1 fantasy RB of 2011 (1 Viewer)

So you're saying that a top 5 guy may make the leap to #1? That's not really much of a ledge you're standing on. And are we talking PPR? TD only league?

 
While I believe you may be right on this, I'd like to hear why you think it will be so, instead of just throwing out a blanket statement without any thought process to back it up. Please expound on your claim. Besides, your posts like this in years past have tended to be the death knell for those players.

 
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While I believe you may be right on this, I'd like to hear why you think it will be so, instead of just throwing out a blanket statement without any thought process to back it up. Please expound on your claim. Besides, your posts like this in years past have tended to be the death knell for those players.
Patience grasshopper, I will reveal the reasoning once others have expressed their erroneous opinions.
 
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So you're saying that a top 5 guy may make the leap to #1? That's not really much of a ledge you're standing on.
I agree, never said Rice was a huge value play, just stating my opinion that he's the most likely RB to finish first.
And are we talking PPR? TD only league?
PPR, nobody plays TD only...at least not those of us who matter
 
So you're saying that a top 5 guy may make the leap to #1? That's not really much of a ledge you're standing on. And are we talking PPR? TD only league?
I'm sure he's talking PPR..It sure may not be an outlandish prediction, but it's a prediction none the less. There can be only 1 at the top, and if that's where hucks thinks Rice will land, why should he venture for a long shot? May not be a long stretch, but why does it have to be?I do however think making a prediction for who will be new to the top ten, or top 5 this year would be a more valuable post.
 
I have Rice, and dont expect #1 numbers from him, but I will be happy to be wrong. I just hope for 16 solid games and top 10, maybe top 5 numbers.

 
While I believe you may be right on this, I'd like to hear why you think it will be so, instead of just throwing out a blanket statement without any thought process to back it up. Please expound on your claim. Besides, your posts like this in years past have tended to be the death knell for those players.
I believe he is gonna say his reasoning for this Outlandish post is the fact that Mcgahee is a FA and may be gone, which to me doesn't make that much of a diff... Im sure they will use parmele/some other back up just like they used Mcgahee... Charles is the intriguing one because he only touched the ball on half of the chiefs running plays and he was still top 5 in ppr.... One has to think that the light bulb finally went off in Haleys peanut brain to at least give charles 65 percent of the carries... I mean Im not saying to give him 30 carries a game, but let the guy play more then half a game, and have some goalline touches... Im willing to bet,that as Tjones ages and becomes less effective 3.7 ypc to Jc 6.4 and over 3x more Effective inside the 5, If Kc wants to start winning games they will eventually use Charles a tad more.
 
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Harbaugh's still the coach right? There any reason to think the lockout has caused him to trust Rice around the goal line?

 
I do however think making a prediction for who will be new to the top ten, or top 5 this year would be a more valuable post.
I don't disagree...start it up, I'll fire away...just wrapped up my preliminary RB projections.
Your the one who started this very questionable post.
Listen, new guy. I do things my way for a very particular reason. There are other threads if you don't like this one.
 
Non PPR, where do you see him finishing?
I currently have him projected second in non PPR behind Foster...but I don't project static numbers, I project ranges. So for matters of this discussion I sort of use midpoints of those ranges.
 
I say Charles in ppr.
If it was a five game season, Charles would have a chance.Unfortunately, guys like Charles rarely take on workhorse numbers and survive. Chris Johnson is the exception, not the rule.
 
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I say Charles in ppr.
If it was a five game season, Charles would have a chance.Unfortunately, guys like Charles rarely take on workhorse numbers and survive. Chris Johnson is the exception, not the rule.
Chiefs go from one of the easiest schedules in 2010 to one of the toughest in 2011 as well. Charles is elite and can overcome it that but it's a tough road.
 
Besides, your posts like this in years past have tended to be the death knell for those players.
this is inaccurate at best
Not according to the countless posts I've read.
Nobody knows who you are.I was posting around here before you knew what fantasy football was.
LOL @ new guyIts obvious you will be doing more of defending yourself then making a point, as you do everytime you make a thread, so get a clue. But with your "way of doing things" I understand why...and for someone who has been around here as long you, you should know how these type of threads make people dumber, I even know that and I'm as new as 2007.Again, lol @ new guy, and you in general.
 
I do however think making a prediction for who will be new to the top ten, or top 5 this year would be a more valuable post.
The top 10 guys are usually the ones that stay the healthiest for 16 games, whether that's the concensus top 10 or a backup. Tough to predict that. All you can really predict is talent and touch potential.
I do think Rice will outscore both ADP and CJ2K but don't have him #1. I hate that I agree with LHUCKS' premise though.
I have him as the #1 PPR back also, soft schedule, mcgahee is gone, easily the best pass catching back.
It's a very reasonable prediction, especially in PPR. The AFC North has a pretty easy schedule this season. I actually really like Mendenhall to have a shot at the #1 spot in standard leagues.
 
I don't think Rice will score enough TDs to be the #1 RB. Going back to 1995, only 2 RBs have scored less than 17 TDs and finished as the top RB...Chris Johnson had 16 TDs and Barry Sanders had 14...and both of them had 2000 rushing yards in those seasons. I don't see any way Rice scores anywhere near enough TDs to be the #1 RB.

 
KC schedule is brutal this year....last year all of the Chiefs benefited from the cake schedule and I think that will be the high point for guys like Cassel and Bowe....Charles is a play maker and will still get his, but when it comes to tryng to actually win your fantasy league I drop Charles down behind the others because of the murderer's row of a schedule they face in weeks 11-15....take a look....not good...

Rice on the other hand basically gets the schedule that KC had last year (lotsa NFC West, etc) and is done with PIT by week 9....Rice's playoff push looks good....

Houston's schedule looks pretty nice as well....and that offense is pretty balanced so Foster could give him a run, and I would have a hard time taking Rice over Foster and ADP for that matter, but I would take him over Charles or CJ....

 
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I do however think making a prediction for who will be new to the top ten, or top 5 this year would be a more valuable post.
The top 10 guys are usually the ones that stay the healthiest for 16 games, whether that's the concensus top 10 or a backup. Tough to predict that. All you can really predict is talent and touch potential.
I do think Rice will outscore both ADP and CJ2K but don't have him #1. I hate that I agree with LHUCKS' premise though.
I have him as the #1 PPR back also, soft schedule, mcgahee is gone, easily the best pass catching back.
It's a very reasonable prediction, especially in PPR. The AFC North has a pretty easy schedule this season. I actually really like Mendenhall to have a shot at the #1 spot in standard leagues.
I agree with this and like the fact they have a bye in week 11 which will help them get healthy....and then a very nice schedule to finish the season....I know it's tough to tell about defenses right now but it looks good...
 
Harbaugh's still the coach right? There any reason to think the lockout has caused him to trust Rice around the goal line?
It wasn't a matter of trust, it was a matter of too many mouths to feed.
This is correct. It is laughable that many people talk about McGahee as if he is some schlep off the street (like Parmalee, or whoever else the backup will be). The reason McGahee got included in the game plan is because he possesses great skill at the postion, and would have been a cancer in the locker room had he not been included at all. If he is no longer there, Rice will become much more of threat imo. Now, if he does not produce over the first few weeks, then we might see some other guys get a shot, but as someone has owned Rice the last two years and has watched him and the Ravens closely, I feel that giving him an extra four series a game will just give him more opportunities to shine. He could easily get 4 - 6 more tds and 15 - 25 + more receptions. If I am picking at the front of the first round, I will think long and hard about taking him at #1, #2, or #3. I already have Charles as a keeper, and Foster is most certainly being kept, so it will be Rice vs. CJ, Peterson, or Vick. If for some reason, he falls to me at the endof the round, there is no question I would take him in a ppr over any of the remaining guys at rb, wr, or qb. There just are not that many rbs who have a potential to catch 60 + balls.
 
I don't think Rice will score enough TDs to be the #1 RB. Going back to 1995, only 2 RBs have scored less than 17 TDs and finished as the top RB...Chris Johnson had 16 TDs and Barry Sanders had 14...and both of them had 2000 rushing yards in those seasons. I don't see any way Rice scores anywhere near enough TDs to be the #1 RB.
Anthony, very interesting stat and frankly, one I was not aware of. I used to think that heavy TDs from a RB would secure an "epic" season but not necessarily the norm in regards to finishing 1st overall. Rice's case is interesting...he has the same body type of MJD and while he has not put up the same TDs, it is pretty clear he did not get those oppys. McClean has been clamouring about touching the ball more, so I could easily see the staff throwing him a bone while preserving Rice, and having him take the goalline looks. Yet, #1 overall seems to take a lot of "right" situations to get to, so I see no reason why Rice cannot get there.
 
I don't disagree with what LHUCKS is saying, but maybe we should take a look at the last few pages of that AJ Hawk thread to see what this community thinks of him.

 
I say Charles in ppr.
If it was a five game season, Charles would have a chance.Unfortunately, guys like Charles rarely take on workhorse numbers and survive. Chris Johnson is the exception, not the rule.
Lhucks your missing the point what do you mean if it was a 5 game season... Jcharles was top 5 and got 50 percent of the touches... no one said he needed to be a WORKHORSE 30 touch back to be number 1 overall... Give Charles 4 more touches per game then what he had in 2010 and more goalline, which Im sure is gonna come, Haley is stubborn sometimes and he has to warm up to players... Your post makes no sense.
 
I say Charles in ppr.
If it was a five game season, Charles would have a chance.Unfortunately, guys like Charles rarely take on workhorse numbers and survive. Chris Johnson is the exception, not the rule.
Chiefs go from one of the easiest schedules in 2010 to one of the toughest in 2011 as well. Charles is elite and can overcome it that but it's a tough road.
how do you figure the ppg for rbs allowed is more for 2011 then 2010... how do you figure what's a hard schedule anyway??? inform me on that as defenses change every year, and we haven't even had FA period yet :football:
 
I do think Rice will outscore both ADP and CJ2K but don't have him #1. I hate that I agree with LHUCKS' premise though.
I have him as the #1 PPR back also, soft schedule, mcgahee is gone, easily the best pass catching back.
Disagree he is the best pass catching back.And while its possible...I made a mental note to likely knock him down in my rankings due to LHUCKs confidence.It has not been this high since Bush and Leinart were guaranteed to be great.
 
Please keep civil in this thread and avoid personal attacks. I've already got reports on it and I don't want to shut it down. Stay on the Ray Rice topic, not the popularity of various posters.

TIA

MW

 
The top 10 guys are usually the ones that stay the healthiest for 16 games, whether that's the concensus top 10 or a backup. Tough to predict that. All you can really predict is talent and touch potential.
FalseIf you don't believe me, you get Gore and I get Rice....1000 bucks says Rice loses fewer quarters to injury than Gore??

Want some of that action??

I don't think so.

 
Lhucks your missing the point what do you mean if it was a 5 game season... Jcharles was top 5 and got 50 percent of the touches... no one said he needed to be a WORKHORSE 30 touch back to be number 1 overall... Give Charles 4 more touches per game then what he had in 2010 and more goalline, which Im sure is gonna come, Haley is stubborn sometimes and he has to warm up to players... Your post makes no sense.
More touches means lower YPC, Charles can't pass up Peterson/Foster/Rice without two things happening:1) Substantially more touchesAND2) No injuryI don't believe both can happen.Charles is fool's gold.
 
The top 10 guys are usually the ones that stay the healthiest for 16 games, whether that's the concensus top 10 or a backup. Tough to predict that. All you can really predict is talent and touch potential.
FalseIf you don't believe me, you get Gore and I get Rice....1000 bucks says Rice loses fewer quarters to injury than Gore??

Want some of that action??

I don't think so.
This makes no sense to me!Whats is your point about Gore? :confused:

 
We know that Rice will likely get 270+ carries and 60+ receptions. At 4.5 YPC and 9YPR, Rice should at a minimum 1750 all purpose yards, along with 60 points from receptions in PPR. He has a great shot at 2000 all purpose yards. So it all depends on how much of McGahee's goalline looks will come Rice's way. 2000 yards, 60 receptions and say 13-14 TDs, Rice could be the #1 back in a PPR league.....it isn't that far fetched.

 

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