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2011 RB Strategy: RBs by ADP (2 Viewers)

LHUCKS

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Summary

My strategy in most leagues will be to go RB early and target the value plays highlighted below. I really, really like the value of Ray Rice and Frank Gore in particular. I also like to backload my drafts with high risk/high reward picks later in the draft.

LINK to QB Strategy Thread

This is ADP data from FBG's consensus data for PPR leagues

Red = Sell or Overvalued

Green = Buy or Undervalued

Consensus Name Team Pos Expert MFL Calc non-PPR

1 Arian Foster HOU RB 1 1 1 1 2

2 Adrian Peterson MIN RB 2 3 2 2 1

3 Chris Johnson TEN RB 3 2 3 3 3

4 Jamaal Charles KC RB 4 5 4 4 4

5 Ray Rice BAL RB 5 4 6 5 5 - softer schedule, low risk, high ceiling

6 LeSean McCoy PHI RB 6 6 5 7 7 - Eagels will lighten his load

9 Maurice Jones-Drew JAX RB 7 10 10 8 9 - leary until the knee is 100%

11 Darren McFadden OAK RB 8 16 11 9 13 - should be going higher

13 Frank Gore SF RB 9 14 18 11 16 - hip fracture created value

15 Rashard Mendenhall PIT RB 10 19 14 13 10

17 Matt Forte CHI RB 11 20 16 15 20

19 Steven Jackson STL RB 12 17 21 17 17

22 Michael Turner ATL RB 13 26 26 18 15

24 Peyton Hillis CLE RB 14 32 22 19 22

28 Ryan Mathews SD RB 15 44 28 22 36 - starting to develop soft/lazy reputation

31 Ahmad Bradshaw NYG RB 16 33 33 29 32 - don't expect much to change

37 Jahvid Best DET RB 17 45 35 30 49

43 DeAngelo Williams CAR RB 18 42 52 37 39

46 LeGarrette Blount TB RB 19 71 42 33 35

47 Jonathan Stewart CAR RB 20 53 44 34 41

50 Shonn Greene NYJ RB 21 51 50 50 38

53 Knowshon Moreno DEN RB 22 55 54 45 47

54 Mark Ingram NO RB 23 49 48 44 52

61 Felix Jones DAL RB 24 72 59 63 61

62 Ryan Grant GB RB 25 68 76 61 60 - classic coming back from injury value

63 Daniel Thomas MIA RB 26 70 65 62 65

64 Cedric Benson CIN RB 27 76 67 65 57

65 Fred Jackson BUF RB 28 57 77 72 68

70 Marshawn Lynch SEA RB 29 75 69 77 71

75 Joseph Addai IND RB 30 77 80 73 73 - Carter will have job in second half

78 BenJarvus Green-Ellis NE RB 31 82 83 86 67

85 Mikel Leshoure DET RB 32 89 89 79 85

87 Ryan Torain WAS RB 33 84 97 91 80

89 C.J. Spiller BUF RB 34 107 79 88 97

92 Ryan Williams ARI RB 35 73 84 94 86 - both AZ backs preseent upside

93 Brandon Jacobs NYG RB 36 81 113 104 88

97 James Starks GB RB 37 119 92 95 99

98 Pierre Thomas NO RB 38 126 107 100 102

100 Mike Tolbert SD RB 39 106 110 97 96

111 Reggie Bush MIA RB 40 103 114 111 116 - great PPR value

113 LaDainian Tomlinson NYJ RB 41 129 124 107 115

116 Chris Wells ARI RB 42 133 101 112 107 - AZ starter, soft schedule

118 Michael Bush OAK RB 43 121 117 119 105

123 Roy Helu WAS RB 44 185 105 109 119

124 Ronnie Brown PHI RB 45 134 145 115 123 - great upside behind smaller McCoy

126 Delone Carter IND RB 46 109 127 135 142 - most talented RB on team

128 Rashad Jennings JAX RB 47 130 126 138 137 - MJD handcuff

134 Danny Woodhead NE RB 48 186 146 122 138

137 Montario Hardesty CLE RB 49 149 128 132 135

138 Shane Vereen NE RB 50 105 133 127 160 - most explosive back on roster

144 Bernard Scott CIN RB 51 120 162 144 191

145 Darren Sproles NO RB 52 111 189 147 176

146 Donald Brown IND RB 53 189 154 142 168

149 Demarco Murray DAL RB 54 154 139 140 141

155 Mike Goodson CAR RB 55 194 143 139 175

158 Thomas Jones KC RB 56 162 193 145 139

159 Tashard Choice DAL RB 57 173 172 146 173 - cheap Felix cuff

162 Tim Hightower WAS RB 58 141 220 164 193

168 Marion Barber CHI RB 59 150 221 175 197 - can run better than Forte

173 Jacquizz Rodgers ATL RB 60 176 174 153 210

176 Jason Snelling ATL RB 61 228 166 148 206

180 Ben Tate HOU RB 62 229 187 165 195 - lots of reward if Foster goes down

183 Justin Forsett SEA RB 63 230 223 152 211

184 Jerome Harrison RB 64 200 225 166 232

187 Kendall Hunter SF RB 65 226 156 158 217

193 Bilal Powell NYJ RB 66 177 181 190 202

197 Toby Gerhart MIN RB 67 233 188 160 242

203 Willis McGahee DEN RB 68 161 228 178 162

218 Chris Ivory NO RB 69 241 234 176 222

228 Alex Green GB RB 70 244 237 169 233

233 Leon Washington SEA RB 71 183 240 238 223

236 Ricky Williams RB 72 227 246 245 215

240 Javon Ringer TEN RB 73 251 198 224 270 - Johnson still holding out

243 Isaac Redman PIT RB 74 247 244 194 247

246 Cadillac Williams STL RB 75 252 247 204 234

 
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I think CJ Spiller might surprise some people this year in a PPR league. He can be had cheap (after the 8th round in a 12 team PPR redraft) and he should see an increased work load relative to his rookie season. With another year under his belt, Lynch out of town, a steady but unexciting Fred Jackson at 30 years old being his only competition, Spiller has all the opportunity needed to turn out to be a solid RB2 value at a RB4/5 price.

I also don't see why Hillis continues to be ranked so low in a PPR format.

 
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Not sure about "the Eagles lightening [McCoy's] load." He only had 207 carries last year and was extremely effective. Do you think he'll have fewer receptions? I don't see Ronnie Brown as much more than a change of pace and breather guy.

 
Not sure about "the Eagles lightening [McCoy's] load." He only had 207 carries last year and was extremely effective. Do you think he'll have fewer receptions? I don't see Ronnie Brown as much more than a change of pace and breather guy.
I think they're going to look to preserve McCoy as much as possible by getting Brown involved. Particularly in landslide games.Patriots do the same thing.I'm very leary of McCoy this year.To be clear I think he is overvalued by about 9 spots ADP wise. I'm not saying don't draft him, merely that he may be overvalued.
 
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Rice undervalued? Lots of people, including me, have him @ #1.

After seeing your posted draft, I have a hard time taking you seriously now. :excited: :)

 
Rice undervalued? Lots of people, including me, have him @ #1.After seeing your posted draft, I have a hard time taking you seriously now. :excited: :)
Ummm... the list he posted was the players' ADP, and he called Rice undervalued at his ADP precisely because lots of people (including you and LHUCKS) have him at #1.
 
I do like most of the late guys you have for being good buys. Especially Beanie

My one big one I disagree with is in the middle. Grant vs Addai. I would have them switched for these reasons

1. I dont think Carter is nearly the competition that Starks and Green are. Green drafted before Carter

2. Hands. I really think Addai has very good receiving ability and better than Grant

3. Mouths to feed. GB has many more in the passing department. Addai is #4 and Grant is #5 or 6.

Both have been injury prone and both play in top O's but Manning is more boisterous about his players than Rodgers are. Manning loves Addai and why he is back

Give me Addai 13 spots later for fun

I am all over Beanie at that value. Tremendous

 
I think CJ Spiller might surprise some people this year in a PPR league. He can be had cheap (after the 8th round in a 12 team PPR redraft) and he should see an increased work load relative to his rookie season. With another year under his belt, Lynch out of town, a steady but unexciting Fred Jackson at 30 years old being his only competition, Spiller has all the opportunity needed to turn out to be a solid RB2 value at a RB4/5 price.I also don't see why Hillis continues to be ranked so low in a PPR format.
:yes: I'd take him right after Best.
 
I love Addai at that spot. Also, if someone steals the job from Addai, I think Donald Brown has as much chance as doing it as Delone Carter does. I think Addai will be able hold them both off the entire season though.

 
Rice undervalued? Lots of people, including me, have him @ #1.After seeing your posted draft, I have a hard time taking you seriously now. :excited: :)
Ummm... the list he posted was the players' ADP, and he called Rice undervalued at his ADP precisely because lots of people (including you and LHUCKS) have him at #1.
He's being taken around 1.5. My idea of undervalued is someone being taken rounds less than their value not just a couple slots.
 
He's being taken around 1.5. My idea of undervalued is someone being taken rounds less than their value not just a couple slots.
value is amplified in the first few rounds because your dealing with the highest scoring players
I agree with this. Normally it'd be tough to call the 1.05 pick "undervalued", but if you really believe he belongs at 1.01, I can see it.Compare with the NFL Draft Value Chart, for instance. A guy who belongs at 1.01 and gets drafted at 1.05 is undervalued by far more points than a guy who belongs at 3.01 and gets drafted at 5.05.
 
I love Addai at that spot. Also, if someone steals the job from Addai, I think Donald Brown has as much chance as doing it as Delone Carter does. I think Addai will be able hold them both off the entire season though.
I feel like there is value to be had in Indiana, just not sure where it is at. Carter IMHO is the best back on the team so I currently see him as the best value. Addai is slow and Brown just doesn't seem to have it.
 
Not sure about "the Eagles lightening [McCoy's] load." He only had 207 carries last year and was extremely effective. Do you think he'll have fewer receptions? I don't see Ronnie Brown as much more than a change of pace and breather guy.
I think they're going to look to preserve McCoy as much as possible by getting Brown involved. Particularly in landslide games.Patriots do the same thing.

I'm very leary of McCoy this year.

To be clear I think he is overvalued by about 9 spots ADP wise.

I'm not saying don't draft him, merely that he may be overvalued.
Hi LHUCKS,I can understand if you though his workload would stay the same, but why would it be decreased? Though it isn't an exact roadmap of what's to come, Westbrook, in his biggest year handled the ball 368 times ('07) and averaged 320 touches a year in a 3-year span ('06-'08) in the same offense ...and he was always hurt.

McCoy , with only 285 touches (78 of them in the form of receptions), finished the #3 PPR RB in my league last year.

In only 15 games. He was incredibly consistent as well.

Barring injury, I envision a slight uptick, not a decrease.

Coach Andy Reid stated Wednesday that he believes LeSean McCoy is capable of handling a full workload as the Eagles' feature back.

McCoy only received 207 carries in 2010, but Reid hinted that he envisions that number rising this season. "I think last year LeSean showed that he could be a full-time RB and shoulder that load," said Reid, "... and we’ll continue to utilize him in that regard."
 
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there is a TON of value in the 4th -9th rounds. enough so that i think u can go wr wr qb/te or wr qb wr even, and still have a very solid rb corp.
Agree with this...from everything I've seen I'm loving the WR-Wr approach if you draft on back end in a PPR redraft. There's actually several mid round RB's available in the 3-5th round that I like better than some of the 2nd round (and even first round since I wouldn't touch MJD this year) guys.
 
Willis McGahee is the biggest candidate for this thread. His value has shot up since this thread started.

John Fox likes to run the ball and picked McGahee to fit his offense. If you can get him cheaply, buy. However, if you are trying to pry him away from me you will be overpaying.

I'm having a hard time telling when to sell if I need help in other positions and what should the price be. Guess I'm holding to see what he does in the preseason.

 
9 Maurice Jones-Drew JAX RB 7 10 10 8 9 - leary until the knee is 100%
Just curious as to when you see MJD becoming value. Obviously in your Drafting from the 5 hole thread you took him at 2.08, so somewhere between the 9th and the 20th spot he became too good to pass on and I am interested to hear where you see that breaking point at. I ask because MJD scares me a great deal this year given both injury status and the talk of Jennings getting more carries. Clearly the guy could be a beast or he could do very little but the fact that in one place you see him overvalues and then within 11 picks later he becomes enough value that you take him I am guessing you have some strong opinions here.
 
9 Maurice Jones-Drew JAX RB 7 10 10 8 9 - leary until the knee is 100%
Just curious as to when you see MJD becoming value. Obviously in your Drafting from the 5 hole thread you took him at 2.08, so somewhere between the 9th and the 20th spot he became too good to pass on and I am interested to hear where you see that breaking point at. I ask because MJD scares me a great deal this year given both injury status and the talk of Jennings getting more carries. Clearly the guy could be a beast or he could do very little but the fact that in one place you see him overvalues and then within 11 picks later he becomes enough value that you take him I am guessing you have some strong opinions here.
I like him after my top 2 RB Tiers and after my top 6 WRs and after Vick/Rodgers. All of those guys were off the board when I took MJD at 2.08.
 
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'One said:
Not sure about "the Eagles lightening [McCoy's] load." He only had 207 carries last year and was extremely effective. Do you think he'll have fewer receptions? I don't see Ronnie Brown as much more than a change of pace and breather guy.
I think they're going to look to preserve McCoy as much as possible by getting Brown involved. Particularly in landslide games.Patriots do the same thing.

I'm very leary of McCoy this year.

To be clear I think he is overvalued by about 9 spots ADP wise.

I'm not saying don't draft him, merely that he may be overvalued.
Hi LHUCKS,I can understand if you though his workload would stay the same, but why would it be decreased? Though it isn't an exact roadmap of what's to come, Westbrook, in his biggest year handled the ball 368 times ('07) and averaged 320 touches a year in a 3-year span ('06-'08) in the same offense ...and he was always hurt.

McCoy , with only 285 touches (78 of them in the form of receptions), finished the #3 PPR RB in my league last year.

In only 15 games. He was incredibly consistent as well.

Barring injury, I envision a slight uptick, not a decrease.

Coach Andy Reid stated Wednesday that he believes LeSean McCoy is capable of handling a full workload as the Eagles' feature back.

McCoy only received 207 carries in 2010, but Reid hinted that he envisions that number rising this season. "I think last year LeSean showed that he could be a full-time RB and shoulder that load," said Reid, "... and we’ll continue to utilize him in that regard."
+1LHUCKS, please share your reasoning as to why you think McCoy's action would decrease, but not Rice's.

Rice's touches in '10: 370

McCoy's touches in '10: 285

Seems logical that Rice could be the one carrying less of a load.

 
+1LHUCKS, please share your reasoning as to why you think McCoy's action would decrease, but not Rice's. Rice's touches in '10: 370McCoy's touches in '10: 285Seems logical that Rice could be the one carrying less of a load.
McCoy - I think the Ronnie Brown signing is a bigger deal than realized. I know what Reid said, but I also think Reid will look to limit McCoy's touches once they are in the drivers seat for a top NFC seed...a la BB and the Pats...right around fantasy playoff time. One last thing on McCoy, I'm not convinced his build can handle a 280 touch season consistently...so I ding him some for that as well.Rice - I think his touches will slightly increase because of goalline work and also because of an easier schedule. Rice is mostly my number 1 RB because he carries such little risk with great reward now that his TD numbers should improve.
 
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