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Posted 21 September 2011 - 05:11 PM

I am not watching tonight, but I assume someone is. Better/worse than Idol? Which show will have higher ratings this year? What exactly is the format? :popcorn:



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Posted 21 September 2011 - 05:12 PM

Well a guy just dropped his pants singing "I am a stud"

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 05:14 PM

I am not watching tonight, but I assume someone is. Better/worse than Idol? Which show will have higher ratings this year? What exactly is the format? :popcorn:

Doesn't really matter about the talent. X-Factor will be better because of the judges. Simon - the best in the business. Paula - her train wrecks are entertaining. LA Reid - Randy Jackson with actual credibility. Nicole - better eye candy than J'LO IMO. The talent changes each season, but the judges are who make the show.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 05:27 PM

I am not watching tonight, but I assume someone is. Better/worse than Idol? Which show will have higher ratings this year? What exactly is the format? :popcorn:

Doesn't really matter about the talent. X-Factor will be better because of the judges. Simon - the best in the business. Paula - her train wrecks are entertaining. LA Reid - Randy Jackson with actual credibility. Nicole - better eye candy than J'LO IMO. The talent changes each season, but the judges are who make the show.

Nothing wrong with Nicole, but I was disappointed to see that she replaced the other chick. As soon as I saw the original judge, I thought, "I don't know who she is, but I'd watch the show just because of her". She instantly entered my top 5. Apparently she was fired cause her accent was too strong.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 05:32 PM

I will tune in for Simon. I tried giving American Idol a chance after he left but it was loads of meh.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 05:40 PM

I am not watching tonight, but I assume someone is. Better/worse than Idol? Which show will have higher ratings this year? What exactly is the format? :popcorn:

Doesn't really matter about the talent. X-Factor will be better because of the judges. Simon - the best in the business. Paula - her train wrecks are entertaining. LA Reid - Randy Jackson with actual credibility. Nicole - better eye candy than J'LO IMO. The talent changes each season, but the judges are who make the show.

Nothing wrong with Nicole, but I was disappointed to see that she replaced the other chick. As soon as I saw the original judge, I thought, "I don't know who she is, but I'd watch the show just because of her". She instantly entered my top 5. Apparently she was fired cause her accent was too strong.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 05:45 PM

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 06:00 PM

What's the premise here? How does it differ from Idol?

It's pretty much the same thing. Only it has the judges who made American Idol entertaining.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 06:49 PM

What's the premise here? How does it differ from Idol?

Same thing except... - no age restriction (12 years old and up) - can perform in groups - believe can use instruments? - auditions in front of a huge audience and with background tracks - 4 judges instead of 3 The final guy tonight....white guy, garbage man, 70 days sober out of rehab, sang an original song with his self produced music....was pretty great.
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Posted 21 September 2011 - 08:10 PM

I gave it 20 minutes. They dumb it down so much it's unwatchable. How many faked reaction shots do you have to put in there? Painful. About as bad as that americas got talent crapfest. I understand cowell needing a relaunch but why cater to the simpletons? Just way too much obviously manufactured moments. It's a no from me, Simon.
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Posted 21 September 2011 - 08:28 PM

5 minutes in, and I don't think I can take much more. It's the Disney version of AI.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 04:33 AM

Once the Irish judge left I was done.
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Posted 22 September 2011 - 04:49 AM

Mixed feelings. I thought the talent was great. 3 legitimate great singers. The first little girl has a GREAT voice. The older lady (42) was unbelievable. Amazing voice. Then the final guy that did a "self-written song" (those almost never work) was also great. The one thing that got on my nerve is that there is always music playing in the background. That got old for me really quickly. Obviously they are trying to make the audition shows more exciting than Idol, and make it different. In that degree it was interesting, seeing the people audition in front of a big audience. But I can't slam the show for "fake reactions" when that's what American Idol was built on too. It is a TV show, just like Idol, no question. In the end, the judges are ten times better on this show, and as long as there is legit talent, I think I'll invest my time into this one. Randy, Jlo and Tyler were UNWATCHABLE for me last year. Just horrible judges that did nothing but threw praise at every performer. I think the audition format is losing it's luster in both American Idol and it will quickly in Xfactor. Seeing the bad auditions was unbelievably hilarious the first couple seasons of AI. But it gets boring quickly. Can't really judge this show until it really gets going. But I think it will be better than AI.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 04:51 AM

5 minutes in, and I don't think I can take much more. It's the Disney version of AI.

Well the first ten minutes were focused on a 12 year old girl. Give the show a chance. Later on there is a 42 year old Aretha/Whitney type of singer, and a recovering drug addict...as well as a guy who dropped his pants..which was wierd. I mean, you would think that security/police would have immediately escorted him off stage. Isn't that a crime?

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 04:56 AM

What's the premise here? How does it differ from Idol?

Best I can tell it's "America's Got Talent" only limited to singers. People come out and sing in front of a live audience and the judges.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 04:58 AM

I agree the little girl was amazing.
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Posted 22 September 2011 - 05:03 AM

What's the premise here? How does it differ from Idol?

Same thing except... - no age restriction (12 years old and up) - can perform in groups - believe can use instruments? - auditions in front of a huge audience and with background tracks - 4 judges instead of 3 The final guy tonight....white guy, garbage man, 70 days sober out of rehab, sang an original song with his self produced music....was pretty great.

and a $5M recording contract, whereas Idol, IIRC, only offers $1M

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 05:04 AM

5 minutes in, and I don't think I can take much more. It's the Disney version of AI.

Well the first ten minutes were focused on a 12 year old girl. Give the show a chance. Later on there is a 42 year old Aretha/Whitney type of singer, and a recovering drug addict...as well as a guy who dropped his pants..which was wierd. I mean, you would think that security/police would have immediately escorted him off stage. Isn't that a crime?

:goodposting: I was waiting to security to come drag him off stage and :lmao: at Paula running off to "throw up"

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 05:15 AM

was Simon wearing mascara?

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 05:18 AM

Watched about 20 minutes. Saw it as a hybrid of American Idol, America's Got Talent and The Voice. And I only have a slight interest in AI anymore and don't watch the other two regularly. So, I'm probably out on this.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 05:29 AM

What's the premise here? How does it differ from Idol?

The final guy tonight....white guy, garbage man, 70 days sober out of rehab, sang an original song with his self produced music....was pretty great.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 05:49 AM

I thought it was pretty decent. I liked that they burned through most of the bad auditions quickly where Idol would have lingered on them for a half hour. Well, except for the guy who dropped his drawers of course.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 06:59 AM

What's the premise here? How does it differ from Idol?

Same thing except... - no age restriction (12 years old and up) - can perform in groups - believe can use instruments? - auditions in front of a huge audience and with background tracks - 4 judges instead of 3 The final guy tonight....white guy, garbage man, 70 days sober out of rehab, sang an original song with his self produced music....was pretty great.

and a $5M recording contract, whereas Idol, IIRC, only offers $1M

Never an AI watcher, but I think I will be watching X-Factor. Can't believe you guys are leaving out the biggest diff though. After auditions, they are divided into 4 groups and each judge helps coach one group. Has the same kind of feel as The Voice.
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Posted 22 September 2011 - 08:54 AM

Turned it off when they showed the entire audition of the naked guy. I doubt I'll be watching this show again. Obviously the show will be a complete circus and I thought it was really bad taste to show that with half of the country watching. Show a brief part of it in a highlights montage, but not the entire audition. It just seemed over the top and a desperate ratings ploy. There were little kids watching and in the audience... Bad taste I watch these shows to see talent.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 10:01 AM

Mixed feelings. I thought the talent was great. 3 legitimate great singers. The first little girl has a GREAT voice. The older lady (42) was unbelievable. Amazing voice. Then the final guy that did a "self-written song" (those almost never work) was also great. The one thing that got on my nerve is that there is always music playing in the background. That got old for me really quickly. Obviously they are trying to make the audition shows more exciting than Idol, and make it different. In that degree it was interesting, seeing the people audition in front of a big audience. But I can't slam the show for "fake reactions" when that's what American Idol was built on too. It is a TV show, just like Idol, no question. In the end, the judges are ten times better on this show, and as long as there is legit talent, I think I'll invest my time into this one. Randy, Jlo and Tyler were UNWATCHABLE for me last year. Just horrible judges that did nothing but threw praise at every performer. I think the audition format is losing it's luster in both American Idol and it will quickly in Xfactor. Seeing the bad auditions was unbelievably hilarious the first couple seasons of AI. But it gets boring quickly. Can't really judge this show until it really gets going. But I think it will be better than AI.

I just don't buy that these people were "great". They're piping in fake audience reaction noise, putting plants in the front of the audience to do the "oh my god!" reaction for the camera. The play up the down and destitute story, the whole fake l.a. reid/simon rivalry brewing. Paula puking at the site of shlong? c'mon. It's absolutely terrible. My favorite line from the judges was, "I tell people that the x-factor is indescribable. That's why you have the x-factor." :lol: What the hell does that even mean? The whole problem with the show can be traced back to the susan boyle thing. That video went viral, she became a huge star and now this show is just going to try to copy that formula. The simon "oh my god, i'm shocked you're so good" face he makes, it's just so obviously fake. You can say that AI was built using a similar formula and yes they'd play up people's stories, too much sometimes, but at the end of the day they were standing in a room alone singing a-capella. You hit the nail on the head with the sappy music playing under the judges comments. How about the slo-mo standing-o from the judging? ridiculous. You don't need to be bombarded with positive reinforcement to see and hear talent. You'll just know it when it's there.
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Posted 22 September 2011 - 10:14 AM

Another thing I didn't like about the show is they appear to be trying for a Susan Boyle moment with every decent singer.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 11:46 AM

I was surprised at how the naked guy segment was handled. Bad taste, plus how much time was wasted following Paula to the bathroom. Alos didn;t like how they set up the 20 year old guy in the promo making it seem as if he'd had some kind of attack. There were some good singers though and I was close to tears myself after the single mom (Denise?) sang. I maybe a sap, but I'm going to believe her line "I don't want to die with the music in me, Simon." was sincere vs. staged.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 11:55 AM

I can't believe that let that Prince-wannabe idiot through. His only purpose is to be a total train-wreck drama queen. He has no real music or singing talent. All he did was run around stage like prince on steroids. Complete buffoon. The show is OK, but really how many singing talent shows do we need. If idol had decent judges, there would be no reason for this shows existence. Although any excuse to put Nicole on TV peaks my interests.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 01:41 PM

I can't believe that let that Prince-wannabe idiot through. His only purpose is to be a total train-wreck drama queen. He has no real music or singing talent. All he did was run around stage like prince on steroids. Complete buffoon.

They've been saying that this show will deliberately let hacks through. One of the things that makes X-Factor different from Idol. And one of the reasons I probably won't watch anymore. Yes, I wish we had better judges on AI. That's the only show you need.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 04:11 PM

I thought it was pretty decent. I liked that they burned through most of the bad auditions quickly where Idol would have lingered on them for a half hour. Well, except for the guy who dropped his drawers of course.

Nevermind... episode 2 is all flops so far

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 04:44 PM

:thumbdown: to showing that nice 16yo girl crying

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 04:56 PM

Wow the girl who sang the Beyonce song is outstanding

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 04:58 PM

honestly make fun of all the contestants you want but leave the young teens alone why show the 14yo? She seemed like a nice kid , quirky but nice.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 05:47 PM

Weak.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 06:14 PM

Mixed feelings. I thought the talent was great. 3 legitimate great singers. The first little girl has a GREAT voice. The older lady (42) was unbelievable. Amazing voice. Then the final guy that did a "self-written song" (those almost never work) was also great. The one thing that got on my nerve is that there is always music playing in the background. That got old for me really quickly. Obviously they are trying to make the audition shows more exciting than Idol, and make it different. In that degree it was interesting, seeing the people audition in front of a big audience. But I can't slam the show for "fake reactions" when that's what American Idol was built on too. It is a TV show, just like Idol, no question. In the end, the judges are ten times better on this show, and as long as there is legit talent, I think I'll invest my time into this one. Randy, Jlo and Tyler were UNWATCHABLE for me last year. Just horrible judges that did nothing but threw praise at every performer. I think the audition format is losing it's luster in both American Idol and it will quickly in Xfactor. Seeing the bad auditions was unbelievably hilarious the first couple seasons of AI. But it gets boring quickly. Can't really judge this show until it really gets going. But I think it will be better than AI.

I just don't buy that these people were "great". They're piping in fake audience reaction noise, putting plants in the front of the audience to do the "oh my god!" reaction for the camera. The play up the down and destitute story, the whole fake l.a. reid/simon rivalry brewing. Paula puking at the site of shlong? c'mon. It's absolutely terrible. My favorite line from the judges was, "I tell people that the x-factor is indescribable. That's why you have the x-factor." :lol: What the hell does that even mean? The whole problem with the show can be traced back to the susan boyle thing. That video went viral, she became a huge star and now this show is just going to try to copy that formula. The simon "oh my god, i'm shocked you're so good" face he makes, it's just so obviously fake. You can say that AI was built using a similar formula and yes they'd play up people's stories, too much sometimes, but at the end of the day they were standing in a room alone singing a-capella. You hit the nail on the head with the sappy music playing under the judges comments. How about the slo-mo standing-o from the judging? ridiculous. You don't need to be bombarded with positive reinforcement to see and hear talent. You'll just know it when it's there.

:goodposting: Only saw the last half hour of yesterday's show, but completely agree regarding how packaged the show seemed. Especially during the performances where they mix and match clips of the performers with judges/audience reactions which are obviously at different times. AI did it to some extent, but not nearly to this level. To me, it just really took away from the show.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 07:15 PM

Watched about 20 minutes. Saw it as a hybrid of American Idol, America's Got Talent and The Voice. And I only have a slight interest in AI anymore and don't watch the other two regularly. So, I'm probably out on this.

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 03:57 AM

And this was going to "Blow AI Out of the water" :confused: Same old thing, with the same old judges +2.. Last night was 90% bad singers and/or drama. :thumbdown: It is just AI with a few more Bells and whistles and Oh, hey look we have no age limit and GROUPS are allowed.. :rolleyes: :yawn: I'll skip it until they start performing live.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 06:43 PM

:shrug: I liked the guy that sang the Stevie Wonder song. And the rehab guy.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 07:39 PM

Wow the girl who sang the Beyonce song is outstanding

:goodposting: Best audition so far. And she's only 18. And how did pecker guy not get arrested?
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 05:55 PM

The burrito-slinging that sang the Etta James song :shock: :thumbup:
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 06:31 PM

The burrito-slinging that sang the Etta James song :shock: :thumbup:

The ghost shtick ruined it for me. Contrived garbage that only takes away the allusion of it being a competition.

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 08:43 PM

The burrito-slinging that sang the Etta James song :shock: :thumbup:

The ghost shtick ruined it for me. Contrived garbage that only takes away the allusion of it being a competition.

Just wait until the auditions are done. I actually find the X-factor auditions better than American Idol. More airtime for the good singers and they just show just enough of the bad ones. However there have only been a few singers ao far that are potentially great: the annoying little girl, the beyonce chick, the chick who sang stop in the name of love, and the burritto guy, and the 42 year old black chick. Everyone else is just filler, IMO.

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 02:36 PM

Not a fan of the boot-camp so far. Why do the whole dancing and group thing? Thee contestants are there to win on their own, who cares if they can sing on a forced grouping?? When does the actual competition start???
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Posted 06 October 2011 - 05:54 PM

I really like the talent on this show. X Factor >> AI. IMO

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 06:09 PM

I really like the talent on this show. X Factor >> AI. IMO

I like the talent so far as well. Should be interesting going forward. I think they got it right when they matched the different groups up with the judges.
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:48 AM

I haven't been watching for reasons stated earlier. I didn't flip through last night and saw burrito guy and 42yo black single mom. They were both really good. Talent does seem better than AI based on that.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:53 AM

I can't believe that young black rapper is still there.
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:09 AM

This is where the show should get good. Loved how they kind of just skipped over the auditions, since that was always the most boring part to me. They really did make it obvious though who they were pushing through. Also really interested in how the kid groups turn out.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:12 AM

I can't believe that young black rapper is still there.

I want to punch him and the curly haired girl in the face.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:26 AM

I can't believe that young black rapper is still there.

I want to punch him and the curly haired girl in the face.

She doesn't bother me that much. She won't make it very far imo, but she has some talent. The rapper kid is just bad imo.
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