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[BoneYardDog]

The great uniter indeed...

The either your with me or the "enemy" president...

Be proud America he is even better than Bush...

The best ever

[Leeroy Jenkins]

The great uniter indeed...

The either your with me or the "enemy" president...

Be proud America he is even better than Bush...

The best ever

I think people gave Bush a chance during his first term and especially after 9/11. There is a certain element in this country that were never going to agree with Obama even if he said the sky was blue.

[matuski]

I wonder if his race has anything to with this for the OP and others? Just a hunch...

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

The great uniter indeed...

The either your with me or the "enemy" president...

Be proud America he is even better than Bush...

The best ever

I think people gave Bush a chance during his first term and especially after 9/11. There is a certain element in this country that were never going to agree with Obama even if he said the sky was blue.

Obama Derangement Syndrome.

[ceo3west]

It's easy for a hack like you to make this about Obama, but the fact is that this has been a growing trend in this country for a long time.

Out of the ten most partisan years in terms of presidential job approval in Gallup data, seven — yes, seven — have come since 2004. Bush had a run between 2004 and 2007 in which the partisan disparity of his job approval was at 70 points or higher.

And this is likely the correct hypothesis when you take off your blinders:

Our guess is that Jones’ latter hypothesis is the right one — that we are simply living in an era in which Democrats dislike a Republican president (and Republicans dislike a Democratic one) even before the commander in chief has taken a single official action.

[Thunderlips]

The great uniter indeed...

The either your with me or the "enemy" president...

Be proud America he is even better than Bush...

The best ever

I think people gave Bush a chance during his first term and especially after 9/11. There is a certain element in this country that were never going to agree with Obama even if he said the sky was blue.

Excellent post. Obama was Public Enemy Number One to a good 33% of this population the minute he won the election.

[BoneYardDog]

I wonder if his race has anything to with this for the OP and others? Just a hunch...

Just a bunch of BS, obama could not have won without the white vote... He is hated because of his policies not the color of his skin... But play the race card I am sure it will come out a lot in the next few months, I mean he cannot run on his record can he... lmao

[GroveDiesel]

The great uniter indeed...

The either your with me or the "enemy" president...

Be proud America he is even better than Bush...

The best ever

I think people gave Bush a chance during his first term and especially after 9/11. There is a certain element in this country that were never going to agree with Obama even if he said the sky was blue.

Really? Because I remember a large number of people screaming that Bush stole the election, that Gore was the real President, and that Bush would NEVER be their President. And that Bush would destroy the environment and end abortion.

So, yeah, there were a whole lot of people that never gave Bush a chance from the very beginning either.

And yeah, I think the hypothesis that we're just becoming more polarized in general is probably the best argument here.

So those saying that it's BECAUSE of Obama can shut it, and those saying that it's because Republicans are racist can shut it as well.

[Loose Moose]

I wonder if his race has anything to with this for the OP and others? Just a hunch...

Just a bunch of BS, obama could not have won without the white vote... He is hated because of his policies not the color of his skin... But play the race card I am sure it will come out a lot in the next few months, I mean he cannot run on his record can he... lmao

Did you even read the article? It's highlighting a long-term trend in increasing polarization across a number of Presidents from both parties. If anything, it's suggesting that Obama's policies have little to do with it, as another poster mentioned. Unless you're just fishing, in which case carry on...

[Widbil83]

Get ready for President Romney.

[footballnerd]

It all doesn't matter when Rep nominations are just making it easy for Obama. Batter up....

[guderian]

I wonder if his race has anything to with this for the OP and others? Just a hunch...

Yes. We dislike Obama because of his race. We just willfully ignore the 4% GDP growth, tame unemployment and sound financial policies. You seem to forget that this is a president who went into office stating 'elections have consequences and we won' and who's vilified numerous industries. Who's speeches don't unite, but attack and blame the politics of the half of the country who didn't vote for him.

[mad sweeney]

I wonder if his race has anything to with this for the OP and others? Just a hunch...

Yes. We dislike Obama because of his race. We just willfully ignore the 4% GDP growth, tame unemployment and sound financial policies. You seem to forget that this is a president who went into office stating 'elections have consequences and we won' and who's vilified numerous industries. Who's speeches don't unite, but attack and blame the politics of the half of the country who didn't vote for him.

IIRC, it was more like the third of the (voting) country.

[Sinn Fein]

No he's not.

[Thunderlips]

Most Presidents going forward won't have much of a chance either. The ideological media on both sides of the aisle loves to trump their new President as "__________" while denigrating the exiting President and his "failed" policies. Think about it. People who are even remotely ideological (which most people are) will naturally build up a certain amount of animosity for the incoming POTUS, because they are being told, "it's good to have the grownups back in charge of Washingon", (Bushies in regards to Clinton) "it's good that The People and Democracy are back in charge of Washington" and (Obamaites in regards to Bush) "its good that the Islamo-Socio-ChiCom-shrill,Chicago Politician who never showed his birth certificate and whose failed economic and political policies brought this country to the brink of ruin is being replaced by an honest American politician". (Tea Partyers in regards to Obama).

[GroveDiesel]

No he's not.

Didn't read the article, did you?

[RBM]

If libs hate President Romney, that will mean good things for the country

[IvanKaramazov]

I think people gave Bush a chance during his first term and especially after 9/11.

This part is so wrong it's not even funny. Yes, Bush benefitted from a natural rally-around-the-flag effect immediately after 9/11, but nobody who remembers the slightest thing about the 2000 election could possibly think that he was welcomed into office with nothing but good will from all corners.

[guderian]

I wonder if his race has anything to with this for the OP and others? Just a hunch...

Yes. We dislike Obama because of his race. We just willfully ignore the 4% GDP growth, tame unemployment and sound financial policies. You seem to forget that this is a president who went into office stating 'elections have consequences and we won' and who's vilified numerous industries. Who's speeches don't unite, but attack and blame the politics of the half of the country who didn't vote for him.

IIRC, it was more like the third of the (voting) country.

46%

[urbanhack]

Get ready for President Romney.

who would govern pretty much like Obama has. I can't imagine what you people would think if Obama had delivered on half or 3/4 of the more liberal agenda he laid during his campaign. As others have said around here, he's pretty much been Bush-lite and this is how you guys react?

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I'm not quite sure where the shtick of not capitalizing the man's name stacks up with Johnnycakes shtick of using a zero for the first letter. Both deliciously clever satire, obviously.

[randall146]

No he's not.

Didn't read the article, did you?

The article says he's not.

[Fennis]

Get ready for President Romney.

who would govern pretty much like Obama has. I can't imagine what you people would think if Obama had delivered on half or 3/4 of the more liberal agenda he laid during his campaign. As others have said around here, he's pretty much been Bush-lite and this is how you guys react?

Bush's 4th term

[drummer]

Is this the Angry White Man thread?

[dozer]

If Hillary would have been the nominee and eventual winner we'd all be having a group hug right now. I love you guys.

[Fennis]

Is this the Angry White Man thread?

present

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I think people gave Bush a chance during his first term and especially after 9/11.

This part is so wrong it's not even funny. Yes, Bush benefitted from a natural rally-around-the-flag effect immediately after 9/11, but nobody who remembers the slightest thing about the 2000 election could possibly think that he was welcomed into office with nothing but good will from all corners.

Im a person who voted Bush in 2000, Kerry 2004, and Obama 2008. After 9/11 he had everybody here and across the world until iraq really.

[mad sweeney]

I wonder if his race has anything to with this for the OP and others? Just a hunch...

Yes. We dislike Obama because of his race. We just willfully ignore the 4% GDP growth, tame unemployment and sound financial policies. You seem to forget that this is a president who went into office stating 'elections have consequences and we won' and who's vilified numerous industries. Who's speeches don't unite, but attack and blame the politics of the half of the country who didn't vote for him.

IIRC, it was more like the third of the (voting) country.

46%

Ooooooooohhhh. Super cool guy with the , like he busted someone who admitted potential fault in his post. Wow, your arguments are so much more valid to me now!

[Thunderlips]

I think people gave Bush a chance during his first term and especially after 9/11.

This part is so wrong it's not even funny. Yes, Bush benefitted from a natural rally-around-the-flag effect immediately after 9/11, but nobody who remembers the slightest thing about the 2000 election could possibly think that he was welcomed into office with nothing but good will from all corners.

Im a person who voted Bush in 2000, Kerry 2004, and Obama 2008. After 9/11 he had everybody here and across the world until iraq really.

Bush's approval ratings were in the 50%-60% up until 9/11.

[greenroom]

The great uniter indeed...

The either your with me or the "enemy" president...

Be proud America he is even better than Bush...

The best ever

Once again did you even read the article you posted?? It shows the Bush has the biggest gaps between parties.. Actually make that the three highest marks.. But go ahead.. and show how you are not to be taken considered serious.
e.

[guderian]

I wonder if his race has anything to with this for the OP and others? Just a hunch...

Yes. We dislike Obama because of his race. We just willfully ignore the 4% GDP growth, tame unemployment and sound financial policies. You seem to forget that this is a president who went into office stating 'elections have consequences and we won' and who's vilified numerous industries. Who's speeches don't unite, but attack and blame the politics of the half of the country who didn't vote for him.

IIRC, it was more like the third of the (voting) country.

46%

Ooooooooohhhh. Super cool guy with the , like he busted someone who admitted potential fault in his post. Wow, your arguments are so much more valid to me now!

I thought it was rather childish to quibble over a few percentage points rather than letting me slide with a simplistic "half".

[Chadstroma]

Let me save all those on the left some time and roll up your response in this: It is not Obama's fault. It is the Republicans fault because (fill in your favorite reason)* *Some examples would be they are racists, they are unreasonable, they are dumb.

[goonsquad]

This is the result of our hyper-partisan media that exists only to rile up the masses for cheap ratings instead of simply reporting the news.

[RBM]

I wonder if his race has anything to with this for the OP and others? Just a hunch...

Yes. We dislike Obama because of his race. We just willfully ignore the 4% GDP growth, tame unemployment and sound financial policies. You seem to forget that this is a president who went into office stating 'elections have consequences and we won' and who's vilified numerous industries. Who's speeches don't unite, but attack and blame the politics of the half of the country who didn't vote for him.

IIRC, it was more like the third of the (voting) country.

46%

Ooooooooohhhh. Super cool guy with the , like he busted someone who admitted potential fault in his post. Wow, your arguments are so much more valid to me now!

You're the tool that had to correct his "half of the country" comment

[boofatty]

When you have two parties that thrive on a divided populace what would you expect? Also add in the media machines that wouldn't exist if it wasn't for partisan politics and you have sparks being introduced to fuel. The economy and industry of politics gets completely lost on people. Obama is as middle of the road as they come and reagan could NOT get elected in 2012 even if jesus was his running mate.

[G5781]

Let me save all those on the left some time and roll up your response in this: It is not Obama's fault. It is the Republicans fault because (fill in your favorite reason)* *Some examples would be they are racists, they are unreasonable, they are dumb.

You forgot a pretty important one "they got us in this mess"

[Reg Lllama of Brixton]

What a stupid headline/statement. I'm pretty we had a president once whose mere election caused a civil war.

[The Future Champs]

I wonder if his race has anything to with this for the OP and others? Just a hunch...

Yes. We dislike Obama because of his race. We just willfully ignore the 4% GDP growth, tame unemployment and sound financial policies. You seem to forget that this is a president who went into office stating 'elections have consequences and we won' and who's vilified numerous industries. Who's speeches don't unite, but attack and blame the politics of the half of the country who didn't vote for him.

IIRC, it was more like the third of the (voting) country.

46%

Ooooooooohhhh. Super cool guy with the , like he busted someone who admitted potential fault in his post. Wow, your arguments are so much more valid to me now!

I thought it was rather childish to quibble over a few percentage points rather than letting me slide with a simplistic "half".

Standard stupid response by Sweeney here.

[bakes]

When you have two parties that thrive on a divided populace what would you expect? Also add in the media machines that wouldn't exist if it wasn't for partisan politics and you have sparks being introduced to fuel. The economy and industry of politics gets completely lost on people. Obama is as middle of the road as they come and reagan could NOT get elected in 2012 even if jesus was his running mate.

This. The schizm portrayed by Fox and MSNBC is far greater than the actual divide between people's political beliefs. It's good for ratings and good for their corporate influence in Washington. Create strawmen for us to argue over and we won't notice what's going in that should really be cheesing us off.

[mad sweeney]

I wonder if his race has anything to with this for the OP and others? Just a hunch...

Yes. We dislike Obama because of his race. We just willfully ignore the 4% GDP growth, tame unemployment and sound financial policies. You seem to forget that this is a president who went into office stating 'elections have consequences and we won' and who's vilified numerous industries. Who's speeches don't unite, but attack and blame the politics of the half of the country who didn't vote for him.

IIRC, it was more like the third of the (voting) country.

46%

Ooooooooohhhh. Super cool guy with the , like he busted someone who admitted potential fault in his post. Wow, your arguments are so much more valid to me now!

You're the tool that had to correct his "half of the country" comment

Ooooooooooohhhh. Super cool name caller that doesn't know what "IIRC" means. Wow, your arguments are soooooo much more valid to me now and I question my very existence!

[Maelstrom]

This is the result of our hyper-partisan media that exists only to rile up the masses for cheap ratings instead of simply reporting the news.

Also:
The "rebuttal":

For me, this quote from Senator Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) that appeared in National Journal magazine on Oct. 23, 2010 neatly sums up what I saw every day in the Senate and in every decision Republicans made: “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”

...

I guess the larger point that I am trying to make is that President Obama should not be blamed for the sharply polarized tone of the current political process because Republicans have made such an aggressive shift to the right. Or, put slightly differently, the President CAN be blamed for his unwillingness to go further to right than the American people are comfortable with — and for that he has been demonized and vilified by the right.

I immediately disqualify about anything I hear politically from anyone that buys the GOP line that Obama is a socialist. Sorry, look at the facts, that's just a scary word to toss around, with no real facts to back it up. I don't love everything Obama's done, and I'm watching the Rep. primaries with interest to try and decide which way to vote.

My vote is available, but the hyper-partisan lying that goes on right now at even the highest levels of politics (from BOTH sides) is just ridiculous. Someone needs to stand up and stop it, but I don't see a candidate willing to do that yet.

[mad sweeney]

I wonder if his race has anything to with this for the OP and others? Just a hunch...

Yes. We dislike Obama because of his race. We just willfully ignore the 4% GDP growth, tame unemployment and sound financial policies. You seem to forget that this is a president who went into office stating 'elections have consequences and we won' and who's vilified numerous industries. Who's speeches don't unite, but attack and blame the politics of the half of the country who didn't vote for him.

IIRC, it was more like the third of the (voting) country.

46%

Ooooooooohhhh. Super cool guy with the , like he busted someone who admitted potential fault in his post. Wow, your arguments are so much more valid to me now!

I thought it was rather childish to quibble over a few percentage points rather than letting me slide with a simplistic "half".

Standard stupid response by Sweeney here.

You again? I thought we left off with you getting rammed for not knowing what you were talking about, even with questions you yourself asked.

[Homer J Simpson]

What a stupid headline/statement. I'm pretty we had a president once whose mere election caused a civil war.

F U Chester A. Arthur!

[Dr. Gobbler]

LOL at you dumb donkeys who think Romney will be any different than Obama who would be any different than Bush. THE GOVERNMENT AND ITS REPRESENTATIVES ARE BOUGHT AND PAID FOR.

[mad sweeney]

I wonder if his race has anything to with this for the OP and others? Just a hunch...

Yes. We dislike Obama because of his race. We just willfully ignore the 4% GDP growth, tame unemployment and sound financial policies. You seem to forget that this is a president who went into office stating 'elections have consequences and we won' and who's vilified numerous industries. Who's speeches don't unite, but attack and blame the politics of the half of the country who didn't vote for him.

IIRC, it was more like the third of the (voting) country.

46%

Ooooooooohhhh. Super cool guy with the , like he busted someone who admitted potential fault in his post. Wow, your arguments are so much more valid to me now!

I thought it was rather childish to quibble over a few percentage points rather than letting me slide with a simplistic "half".

I was thinking of the electoral vote which was a 2:1 ratio, thus the 1/3 comment. Carry on with your eye rolling, it's very effective.

[Todd Andrews]

He's just like that sheriff in Blazing Saddles!!!

[The Future Champs]

I wonder if his race has anything to with this for the OP and others? Just a hunch...

Yes. We dislike Obama because of his race. We just willfully ignore the 4% GDP growth, tame unemployment and sound financial policies. You seem to forget that this is a president who went into office stating 'elections have consequences and we won' and who's vilified numerous industries. Who's speeches don't unite, but attack and blame the politics of the half of the country who didn't vote for him.

IIRC, it was more like the third of the (voting) country.

46%

Ooooooooohhhh. Super cool guy with the , like he busted someone who admitted potential fault in his post. Wow, your arguments are so much more valid to me now!

I thought it was rather childish to quibble over a few percentage points rather than letting me slide with a simplistic "half".

I was thinking of the electoral vote which was a 2:1 ratio, thus the 1/3 comment. Carry on with your eye rolling, it's very effective.

I've never heard that excuse before. Keep up the good work.

[mad sweeney]

I wonder if his race has anything to with this for the OP and others? Just a hunch...

Yes. We dislike Obama because of his race. We just willfully ignore the 4% GDP growth, tame unemployment and sound financial policies. You seem to forget that this is a president who went into office stating 'elections have consequences and we won' and who's vilified numerous industries. Who's speeches don't unite, but attack and blame the politics of the half of the country who didn't vote for him.

IIRC, it was more like the third of the (voting) country.

46%

Ooooooooohhhh. Super cool guy with the , like he busted someone who admitted potential fault in his post. Wow, your arguments are so much more valid to me now!

I thought it was rather childish to quibble over a few percentage points rather than letting me slide with a simplistic "half".

I was thinking of the electoral vote which was a 2:1 ratio, thus the 1/3 comment. Carry on with your eye rolling, it's very effective.

I've never heard that excuse before. Keep up the good work.

What excuse? I take it you never enrolled in the ESL class I recommended for you. Very well, I'll explain it in as short of words as possible in order to limit your ability to be dead wrong. I was wrong with Guiderian's statement about the "half" of the popular vote because I was thinking of the electoral vote, which was 1/3. Simple math. See if you can piggyback Elementary Arithmetric on that ESL class.

I have no idea what makes you think that pointing out how irretrievably stupid you are in every post somehow affects me.

[Patrick Bateman]

[The Future Champs]

I wonder if his race has anything to with this for the OP and others? Just a hunch...

Yes. We dislike Obama because of his race. We just willfully ignore the 4% GDP growth, tame unemployment and sound financial policies. You seem to forget that this is a president who went into office stating 'elections have consequences and we won' and who's vilified numerous industries. Who's speeches don't unite, but attack and blame the politics of the half of the country who didn't vote for him.

IIRC, it was more like the third of the (voting) country.

46%

Ooooooooohhhh. Super cool guy with the , like he busted someone who admitted potential fault in his post. Wow, your arguments are so much more valid to me now!

I thought it was rather childish to quibble over a few percentage points rather than letting me slide with a simplistic "half".

I was thinking of the electoral vote which was a 2:1 ratio, thus the 1/3 comment. Carry on with your eye rolling, it's very effective.

I've never heard that excuse before. Keep up the good work.

What excuse? I take it you never enrolled in the ESL class I recommended for you. Very well, I'll explain it in as short of words as possible in order to limit your ability to be dead wrong. I was wrong with Guiderian's statement about the "half" of the popular vote because I was thinking of the electoral vote, which was 1/3. Simple math. See if you can piggyback Elementary Arithmetric on that ESL class.

I have no idea what makes you think that pointing out how irretrievably stupid you are in every post somehow affects me.

Guderian was clearly referring to the electorate, not the electoral college, when he made his original statement. You've followed that up with:

1. Confusing the electoral vote with the popular vote.
2. Responding angrily when Guderian pointed out your mistake.

Why so mad?