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Rookie 2.01- PPR (1 Viewer)

Who is the 2.01 rookie?

  • LaMichael James

    Votes: 34 28.8%
  • Dwight Jones

    Votes: 3 2.5%
  • Rueben Randle

    Votes: 21 17.8%
  • Marvin McNutt

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • Juron Criner

    Votes: 20 16.9%
  • Joe Adams

    Votes: 5 4.2%
  • Bernard Pierce

    Votes: 6 5.1%
  • Isaiah Peed

    Votes: 9 7.6%
  • Ryan Tannehill

    Votes: 9 7.6%
  • Nick Toon

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Brandon Weeden

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Dwayne Allen

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Orson Charles

    Votes: 2 1.7%
  • Marvin Jones

    Votes: 5 4.2%
  • Other

    Votes: 3 2.5%

  • Total voters
    118
I expected one of Dwight Jones or Rueben Randle to have a Greg Little type of post draft rise.
I don't see Dwight Jones having that capability, he's simply not at catching footballs, I'll leave him for others to take in all fantasy drafts. Randle, on the other hand, I'd say could definitely have a post draft rise. Personally I like Criner and think he'll end up going in the first rounds of most drafts, but I don't think Randle is too far behind.
 
I expected one of Dwight Jones or Rueben Randle to have a Greg Little type of post draft rise.
I don't see Dwight Jones having that capability, he's simply not [good] at catching footballs
Well, you did respond to a post about a Greg Little type of post-draft rise...
:lol: true.I will say this about Greg Little, he at least uses the right technique to catch the ball; he extends his arms and catches the ball before it reaches his body. Jones on the other hand waits for the ball to come to him, which gives DBs more time to make a play on the ball to break up the pass and it also provides QBs with a smaller window to throw to.
 
Voted for McNutt again. I have followed his career and I believe he has room to grow. He switched over to WR his freshman year but really didn't start playing the position much until his sophmore year. He has grown each and every year and I believe he can get even better, IMO he has a high ceiling. I hope he drops like this in rookie drafts and I can get him in the late second to mid third somewhere.

 
I expected one of Dwight Jones or Rueben Randle to have a Greg Little type of post draft rise.
I expected one of Dwight Jones or Rueben Randle to have a Greg Little type of post draft rise.
I don't see Dwight Jones having that capability, he's simply not at catching footballs, I'll leave him for others to take in all fantasy drafts. Randle, on the other hand, I'd say could definitely have a post draft rise. Personally I like Criner and think he'll end up going in the first rounds of most drafts, but I don't think Randle is too far behind.
I don't see either of these players being elite NFL players. Jones isn't on the same talent level of any of the recent UNC WR's to come out and the same goes for Randle. I would be kind of shocked if either player goes before the 4th round.
 
Cody Fleener should be an option
1) Don't know who he is2) Coby Fleener isn't THAT good, lower end TE1 is his ceiling.
Disagreed.
NFL Draft: Top 50 offensive prospects

I will be hammering away on the NFL Draft on this blog and on my football site, TheSidelineView.com from now until April. From a Texans standpoint, the only glaring need that I can see is at the wide receiver position but my ratings aren’t created from a Texans-centric grading scale. My ratings reflect a general rating scale that doesn’t take into account any particular scheme fits for players. Next to the player is the current grade I have on them.

Grades do not always reflect where I think the player will be drafted. These grades are simply an assignment of what round I believe their talent warrants in any given year of the draft.

Top 50 offensive prospects

Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford – 1st

Matt Kalil, LT, USC – 1st

Robert Griffin, III, QB, Baylor – 1st

Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama – 1st

Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma St. – 1st

Riley Reiff, LT, Iowa – 1st

Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor – 1st

David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech – 1st

Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame – 1st

David DeCastro, G, Stanford – 1st

Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford – 1st

Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford – 1st/2nd

Kelechi Osemele, OT/OG, Iowa State – 1st/2nd

Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin – 1st/2nd

Lamar Miller, RB, Miami – 2nd

Brandon Weeden, QB, Oklahoma St. – 2nd

Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M – 2nd

Orson Charles, TE, Georgia – 2nd

Rueben Randle, WR, LSU – 2nd

Cordy Glenn, OG, Georgia – 2nd

Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina – 2nd

Kevin Zeitler, OG, Wisconsin – 2nd

Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers – 2nd

Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State – 2nd

Zebrie Sanders, OT, Florida State – 2nd

Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson – 2nd

Ben Jones, C, Georgia – 2nd/3rd

Isaiah Pead, RB, Cincinnati – 2nd/3rd

Nick Toon, WR, Wisconsin – 2nd/3rd

Kirk Cousins, QB, Michigan State – 2nd/3rd

Doug Martin, RB, Boise State – 2nd/3rd

LaMichael James, RB, Oregon – 2nd/3rd

Marvin McNutt, WR, Iowa – 2nd/3rd

Brian Quick, WR, Appalachian St. – 3rd

LaDarius Green, TE, ULL – 3rd

Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami – 3rd

Brandon Mosely, OT, Auburn – 3rd

Joe Adams, WR, Arkansas – 3rd

Juron Criner, WR, Arizona – 3rd

Dwight Jones, WR, North Carolina – 3rd

Brandon Brooks, OG, Miami, OH – 3rd

Brock Osweiller, QB, Arizona St. – 3rd

Amini Silatolu, OG, Midwestern St. – 3rd

Brandon Washington, OG, Miami – 3rd

Chris Polk, RB, Washington – 3rd/4th

Cyrus Gray, RB, Texas A&M – 3rd/4th

Chris Givens, WR, Wake Forest – 3rd/4th

Vick Ballard, RB, Mississippi St. – 3rd/4th

Deangelo Peterson, TE, LSU – 3rd/4th

Michael Brewster, C, Ohio State – 3rd/4th
That's 12th among all offensive players, 7th among skill position players, and 1st among TE's.
 
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Cody Fleener should be an option
1) Don't know who he is2) Coby Fleener isn't THAT good, lower end TE1 is his ceiling.
Disagreed.
NFL Draft: Top 50 offensive prospects

I will be hammering away on the NFL Draft on this blog and on my football site, TheSidelineView.com from now until April. From a Texans standpoint, the only glaring need that I can see is at the wide receiver position but my ratings aren’t created from a Texans-centric grading scale. My ratings reflect a general rating scale that doesn’t take into account any particular scheme fits for players. Next to the player is the current grade I have on them.

Grades do not always reflect where I think the player will be drafted. These grades are simply an assignment of what round I believe their talent warrants in any given year of the draft.

Top 50 offensive prospects

Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford – 1st

Matt Kalil, LT, USC – 1st

Robert Griffin, III, QB, Baylor – 1st

Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama – 1st

Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma St. – 1st

Riley Reiff, LT, Iowa – 1st

Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor – 1st

David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech – 1st

Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame – 1st

David DeCastro, G, Stanford – 1st

Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford – 1st

Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford – 1st/2nd

Kelechi Osemele, OT/OG, Iowa State – 1st/2nd

Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin – 1st/2nd

Lamar Miller, RB, Miami – 2nd

Brandon Weeden, QB, Oklahoma St. – 2nd

Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M – 2nd

Orson Charles, TE, Georgia – 2nd

Rueben Randle, WR, LSU – 2nd

Cordy Glenn, OG, Georgia – 2nd

Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina – 2nd

Kevin Zeitler, OG, Wisconsin – 2nd

Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers – 2nd

Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State – 2nd

Zebrie Sanders, OT, Florida State – 2nd

Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson – 2nd

Ben Jones, C, Georgia – 2nd/3rd

Isaiah Pead, RB, Cincinnati – 2nd/3rd

Nick Toon, WR, Wisconsin – 2nd/3rd

Kirk Cousins, QB, Michigan State – 2nd/3rd

Doug Martin, RB, Boise State – 2nd/3rd

LaMichael James, RB, Oregon – 2nd/3rd

Marvin McNutt, WR, Iowa – 2nd/3rd

Brian Quick, WR, Appalachian St. – 3rd

LaDarius Green, TE, ULL – 3rd

Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami – 3rd

Brandon Mosely, OT, Auburn – 3rd

Joe Adams, WR, Arkansas – 3rd

Juron Criner, WR, Arizona – 3rd

Dwight Jones, WR, North Carolina – 3rd

Brandon Brooks, OG, Miami, OH – 3rd

Brock Osweiller, QB, Arizona St. – 3rd

Amini Silatolu, OG, Midwestern St. – 3rd

Brandon Washington, OG, Miami – 3rd

Chris Polk, RB, Washington – 3rd/4th

Cyrus Gray, RB, Texas A&M – 3rd/4th

Chris Givens, WR, Wake Forest – 3rd/4th

Vick Ballard, RB, Mississippi St. – 3rd/4th

Deangelo Peterson, TE, LSU – 3rd/4th

Michael Brewster, C, Ohio State – 3rd/4th
That's 12th among all offensive players, 7th among skill position players, and 1st among TE's.
He's my #1 rated TE in this class, so I agree with that part of your post. I just don't see him as a high upside FF TE. He could be a Greg Olsen, Todd Heap, Heath Miller type of player.
 
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'Hoss_Cartwright said:
You do realize a lot of people vote the exact opposite of what they feel due to up coming rookie drafts.
That would explain Lamichael James racking up votes, since I have yet to see a comment about him.
 
James is a bit overrated because everyone thinks Jamaal Charles and i just don't see it.

 
James is certainly worth a spot here. I didn't vote for him, but he certainly has a resume filled with making plays. We'll have to see what the combine numbers say, but seems to me that he has room to fill out

 
I expected one of Dwight Jones or Rueben Randle to have a Greg Little type of post draft rise.
I expected one of Dwight Jones or Rueben Randle to have a Greg Little type of post draft rise.
I don't see Dwight Jones having that capability, he's simply not at catching footballs, I'll leave him for others to take in all fantasy drafts. Randle, on the other hand, I'd say could definitely have a post draft rise. Personally I like Criner and think he'll end up going in the first rounds of most drafts, but I don't think Randle is too far behind.
I don't see either of these players being elite NFL players. Jones isn't on the same talent level of any of the recent UNC WR's to come out and the same goes for Randle. I would be kind of shocked if either player goes before the 4th round.
I wouldn't be shocked at all if either of them went before the 4th round. All it takes is one team to like a player for him to go "early". And I don't think anyone is arguing either of Jones or Randle is elite, all elite fantasy prospects are generally gone by pick 1.5 in rookie drafts. I still think Randle has the capability of being a good WR in the league and definitely fantasy relevant.
 
I'll take Brian Quick over the WR's listed. Or Ronnie Hillman over the RB's listed.

 
I'll be looking closely at Fleener from the 10 spot on. I don't like taking TEs that high, but I'm not at all sold on most of the RB/WR in that range. Fleener could be a nice weapon with his vertical speed, height, and hands. I'm curious to see how fast he runs at the combine. He's rumored to be one of the fastest players on Stanford's team. A great 40 time (4.4-4.5) could send his stock through the roof.

One thing that worries me is his age. He'll be a 24 year old rookie, so he's probably further along in his development than his fellow TE prospects. He's only a few months younger than Jermaine Gresham, and Gresham has already played two seasons in the NFL.

 

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