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Obviously this isn't even a discussion if that injury doesn't occur.
I own both and will probably be stuck with them. I won't dump them cheap but both went from top 4 to 2nd tier. I'd need more to give CJ.
Even though CJ stunk up the joint this past season for no apparent reason? His downward trend is startling. Of course AD is on a downward trend for several years now as well.
There isn't one because this is trying to gauge their value relative to one another.
#12 in yards (even lower in rushing yards) and #13 in fantasy is not really a good finish for a feature back that played all 16 games, considering how few other runners there are that had both of those things going for them. That basically means you were bottom of the barrel among workhorse backs and also finished behind some guys that got fewer opportunities with the ball.It's amazing how good CJ must have been, or still is, when he can look pretty terrible and stink up the joint all season yet manage 1,465 total yards, good for 12th in the NFL, and a RB13 finish.
I agree he didn't look like the same player. Not defending him. Still, that's amazing to me.
I'd rather a healthy 27 year old RB with a very good history coming off a down year that still placed in the top 15 than a 27 year old RB coming off a major knee injury. I may not have been clear enough.Current value, I'd rather be trading for AP than CJ, though I'd rather CJ on my squad by a substantial margin. Absent injury (which is just as benchmark), I'd be trading for CJ, though I'd rather AP by a moderate margin.
Got it. I would say Chris Johnson mainly because he didn't shred his knee. I am not sure I would feel comfortable with either as my #1 RB going forward. Problem is that I think most dynasty owners will value them as such because of their recent productive years. But if the question is simply CJ or ADP, I pick CJ.
Which one do you prefer by the way? And why?
Well said, looking at total finish is misleading. There's some credit to the fact he stayed healthy, which has value. But he was RB #18 in PPG in a PPR. RB #22 in PPG in a non-PPR.#12 in yards (even lower in rushing yards) and #13 in fantasy is not really a good finish for a feature back that played all 16 games, considering how few other runners there are that had both of those things going for them. That basically means you were bottom of the barrel among workhorse backs and also finished behind some guys that got fewer opportunities with the ball.It's amazing how good CJ must have been, or still is, when he can look pretty terrible and stink up the joint all season yet manage 1,465 total yards, good for 12th in the NFL, and a RB13 finish.
I agree he didn't look like the same player. Not defending him. Still, that's amazing to me.
I get all that. Just pointing it out.Well said, looking at total finish is misleading. There's some credit to the fact he stayed healthy, which has value. But he was RB #18 in PPG in a PPR. RB #22 in PPG in a non-PPR.#12 in yards (even lower in rushing yards) and #13 in fantasy is not really a good finish for a feature back that played all 16 games, considering how few other runners there are that had both of those things going for them. That basically means you were bottom of the barrel among workhorse backs and also finished behind some guys that got fewer opportunities with the ball.It's amazing how good CJ must have been, or still is, when he can look pretty terrible and stink up the joint all season yet manage 1,465 total yards, good for 12th in the NFL, and a RB13 finish.
I agree he didn't look like the same player. Not defending him. Still, that's amazing to me.
I think he'll bounce back this year. Titans have officially stated that the O line blocking was to blame for the awful production from BOTH backs on the team. if they fix that, then I'll take a healthy CJ over a badly injured and may never fully recover AP
While certainly true, I'd wager my money on Chris Johnson returning to form in 2012 well ahead of Peterson. This isn't a question of where Chris Johnson should be relative to all other RBs. Rather, it's about where CJ and AP should be valued relative to each other. I think it's also important to keep in mind that CJ was a different player in the second half of the year. Still not elite, but, in PPR, games 1-8 saw an inexcusable drop that had CJ performing around RB23 in PPR. But in the second half of the year, he upped his game to RB10.
But returning to what form? He's gone south 3 years running? Will the "real" Chris Johnson please stand up?
