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2009 NFC Championship Game, Saints vs Vikes.

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#1 ArcticEdge

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:01 PM

Wow, the Saints are freaking dirty. ADP said it. And everyone knew it watching that game. And now it's documented.

The Vikes outplayed the Saints. Almost doubled their offense. Saints only had 70 some yards in the second half. They got lucky, and were playing dirty.

Who outplayed who?

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:05 PM

Doesn't matter. The Saints won. The Vikings lost. It's well past time to get over it, friend.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:05 PM

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:07 PM

Doesn't matter. The Saints won. The Vikings lost. It's well past time to get over it, friend.

Answer the question! Oh, you dont want to.. I understand.

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Answer the question! Oh, you dont want to.. I understand.

I don't need to. There's a difference.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:11 PM

Just like the Saints/49ers this the year, the team that scored more deserved to win. TOs are a huge part of the "outplaying" formula. To ignore turnovers and special teams might be convenient for you, but we both know the truth.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:16 PM

Just like the Saints/49ers this the year, the team that scored more deserved to win. TOs are a huge part of the "outplaying" formula. To ignore turnovers and special teams might be convenient for you, but we both know the truth.

Oh please. Vikes didnt have turnovers to that magnitude the entire year. If that game was played 10 times, who would you bet on to win more games? You dont like :moneybag:

if you say the Saints. End of story.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 07:15 PM

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 08:06 PM

Just like the Saints/49ers this the year, the team that scored more deserved to win. TOs are a huge part of the "outplaying" formula. To ignore turnovers and special teams might be convenient for you, but we both know the truth.
Oh please. Vikes didnt have turnovers to that magnitude the entire year. If that game was played 10 times, who would you bet on to win more games? You dont like if you say the Saints. End of story.

Players wearing Vikings jerseys put the ball on the ground, or threw it to the other team. Feel free to remove mistakes from your outplaying nonsense, but you're wrong, and the scoreboard is all the proof that matters.

This is what's great about football. No goalie standing on his head, or no pitcher with his best stuff that day. Outside of an officiating gaff, the best team that day ALWAYS wins.

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Just like the Saints/49ers this the year, the team that scored more deserved to win. TOs are a huge part of the "outplaying" formula. To ignore turnovers and special teams might be convenient for you, but we both know the truth.
Oh please. Vikes didnt have turnovers to that magnitude the entire year. If that game was played 10 times, who would you bet on to win more games? You dont like if you say the Saints. End of story.

Players wearing Vikings jerseys put the ball on the ground, or threw it to the other team. Feel free to remove mistakes from your outplaying nonsense, but you're wrong, and the scoreboard is all the proof that matters.

This is what's great about football. No goalie standing on his head, or no pitcher with his best stuff that day. Outside of an officiating gaff, the best team that day ALWAYS wins.

Apparently the cold isn't the only thing that's still bitter in Minnesota. :lmao:

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 06:46 AM

You Saints fan just need to look at the evidence. Open your eyes a little.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 06:55 AM

Wow. As if this drivel wasn't put to bed in the 20 threads after the game. Saints were the better team all year, and on that day. This is pathetic.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 07:36 AM

They knew they couldn't beat favre and spent the game trying to hurt him.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 07:54 AM

Remember when Jared Allen got fined for going for Matt Schaub's knees over and over.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 07:56 AM

They knew they couldn't beat favre and spent the game trying to hurt him.

Yeah, cause Farve would never lose a playoff game throwing picks.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 08:07 AM

Turnovers:

Vikings 5
Saints 1

Points:

Vikings 28
Saints 31

Case closed.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 11:20 PM

Turnovers:

Vikings 5
Saints 1

Points:

Vikings 28
Saints 31

Case closed.

Minnesota almost doubled the Saint's offensive production. And now it is confirmed they were cheating. Saints were outplayed, and got super lucky and they know it. Case closed.

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 02:19 AM

Turnovers:

Vikings 5
Saints 1

Points:

Vikings 28
Saints 31

Case closed.
Minnesota almost doubled the Saint's offensive production. And now it is confirmed they were cheating. Saints were outplayed, and got super lucky and they know it. Case closed.

What cheating accured actually? you cant expect to win when you turn over the ball as many times as you did in that game. Sorry

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 07:44 AM

Turnovers:

Vikings 5
Saints 1

Points:

Vikings 28
Saints 31

Case closed.
Minnesota almost doubled the Saint's offensive production. And now it is confirmed they were cheating. Saints were outplayed, and got super lucky and they know it. Case closed.

Laughable. Of course you had more offense. The Saints started all of their drives on Minnesota's side of the field because of vastly superior special teams, and the fact that the Vikings choked the ball away all day. Vikings were overmatched by the more talented team with better coaches.

Do you really think that Jared Allen or Ray Edwards would have hit Brees softly if they ever had the chance? Or do you think they would have tried to take his knees out like they did to Schaub?

Like I said, this is pathetic crybaby stuff. Guess what Vikings, in spite of all of this controversy, the Saints will still be better than you next year and for the forseeable future. Get over it. You lost.

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 10:56 AM

Turnovers:

Vikings 5
Saints 1

Points:

Vikings 28
Saints 31

Case closed.
Minnesota almost doubled the Saint's offensive production. And now it is confirmed they were cheating. Saints were outplayed, and got super lucky and they know it. Case closed.

Laughable. Of course you had more offense. The Saints started all of their drives on Minnesota's side of the field because of vastly superior special teams, and the fact that the Vikings choked the ball away all day. Vikings were overmatched by the more talented team with better coaches.

Do you really think that Jared Allen or Ray Edwards would have hit Brees softly if they ever had the chance? Or do you think they would have tried to take his knees out like they did to Schaub?

Like I said, this is pathetic crybaby stuff. Guess what Vikings, in spite of all of this controversy, the Saints will still be better than you next year and for the forseeable future. Get over it. You lost.

Did you watch the game? Vikes dominated, and despite 5 turnovers, still took the Saints to OT. You won the coin toss, CONGRATS!!! :rolleyes:

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 11:11 AM

CONGRATS!!!

Thanks

Sorry son, but I don't have to dumb down The Sport just so noobs like you have a chance at keeping up.

I play in a $4,000 entry, Super-WCOFF, triple-reverse, double down, mirror league with a modified PPFDR base 8 scoring system, and we just held our draft in July. For the 2013 season. You think Matt Barkley getting the start in USC is news? I drafted him after studying up on him, after he signed his letter of intent, last year. You think that maybe going with a WR in the first two rounds instead of back-to-back RBs is somehow new thinking in fantasy? Well, do you have the balls to do what I did this year when I didn't take my first RB until the fourth round (Roderick Smith, Harding High School of Indiana)? You've probably never even heard of Martavis Bryant, Kyle Prater, or Darius White, yet not only did I draft them this year to form my future WR core, I've also started referring to them by fantasy board nicknames (Super Mart, KPrater, & DoubleDarius). Hell, guys like you are going to be the poor schmucks who are searching this board five years from now for info on some great RB you just heard of out of the middle of nowhere in Alaska, and the FBG search result box is going to come up with this very post, where I brag about nabbing Isaiah Weeks of the Monroe Catholic Rams at the 25.32/26.01 turn a full two months before he lit up Delta Junction for 193 yards/2 TDs or Ketchikan for 183 rushing yards, 55 rec yards, & 2 TDs. You'll be wondering about his durability and I'll remember a phone call I made back when you were just hearing the name "Knowshon Moreno" for the first time to the kid's doctor in Fairbanks about the sprain he suffered in his left ankle in 2008.

Let me give you a tip, IT = INFO, and there's no "expires by" date on it.

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 11:15 AM

Turnovers:

Vikings 5
Saints 1

Points:

Vikings 28
Saints 31

Case closed.
Minnesota almost doubled the Saint's offensive production. And now it is confirmed they were cheating. Saints were outplayed, and got super lucky and they know it. Case closed.

And yet they still lost.

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 11:36 AM

Who outplayed who?
The Vikings outplayed the Saints. (20 votes [57.14%])
Percentage of vote: 57.14%
The Sainsts outplayed the Vikes. (15 votes [42.86%])

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 01:21 PM

Who outplayed who?
The Vikings outplayed the Saints. (20 votes [57.14%])
Percentage of vote: 57.14%
The Sainsts outplayed the Vikes. (15 votes [42.86%])

Maybe if you call the Saints ownership group, they'll ship you the Super Bowl trophy.

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 03:51 PM

Who outplayed who?
The Vikings outplayed the Saints. (20 votes [57.14%])
Percentage of vote: 57.14%
The Sainsts outplayed the Vikes. (15 votes [42.86%])

Winners of games are determined on the field not on message boards

You lost the big one as you've done in the past

Deal with it

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 10:47 PM

Who outplayed who?
The Vikings outplayed the Saints. (20 votes [57.14%])
Percentage of vote: 57.14%
The Sainsts outplayed the Vikes. (15 votes [42.86%])

Maybe if you call the Saints ownership group, they'll ship you the Super Bowl trophy.

They should.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 04:59 AM

When is the expiration date on the Viking's purple whine?

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 04:47 AM

When is the expiration date on the Viking's purple whine?

Never!!!

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 06:36 AM

Ok, AE is a PITA, I know. As a vikes fan, he does us very little favors.

That said, objectively, the saints were obviously (and now it has been confirmed) playing dirty, and the officiating was terrible. The vikes turned it over far too many times, admitted. But you can't tell me the saints were the better team. And if you say 'yes they are, cause they won' then you hate logic. Worse teams beat better teams all the time.

Come on guys. He threw eight innings of one hit ball and needed someone to close it out for him. So what if the closer could have been a fifth grader?

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 06:49 AM

Im still very confused what the saints did illegal on the field? Every team in the NFL gets charged for roughing the passer or hitting a defenseless wr, are they all cheaters??? This is a rough dirty game and everyone plays it. The problem with the saints was off the field. If you want to say which team "deserved" to be in the superbowl, neither the Giants or Patriots would have been in. If turnovers dont count to how bad or good you played then that would be a Baltimore SF superbowl. BUT, this game is based on who can play better on ANY GIVEN SUNDAY, and in the playoffs you have to perform when it counts. Turnovers are a huge part of this.

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 12:21 PM

Ok, AE is a PITA, I know. As a vikes fan, he does us very little favors.

That said, objectively, the saints were obviously (and now it has been confirmed) playing dirty, and the officiating was terrible. The vikes turned it over far too many times, admitted. But you can't tell me the saints were the better team. And if you say 'yes they are, cause they won' then you hate logic. Worse teams beat better teams all the time.

PITA..

Im just passionate. :thumbup:

With the rest.

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 12:40 PM

Ok, AE is a PITA, I know. As a vikes fan, he does us very little favors.

That said, objectively, the saints were obviously (and now it has been confirmed) playing dirty, and the officiating was terrible. The vikes turned it over far too many times, admitted. But you can't tell me the saints were the better team. And if you say 'yes they are, cause they won' then you hate logic. Worse teams beat better teams all the time.

Simply put, there are 3 components to football teams: offense, defense, and special teams.

In that game, the Vikings were definitely the better offensive team. But the Saints won the defensive and special teams battles. So I'm not sure why you think it defies logic to call the Saints the better team that day when they were better at 2 of the 3 facets of the game.

If you want to say the Vikings were clearly the better offensive team, I doubt you'd get much argument. Unfortunately, there's more to it than just that.

Sorry son, but I don't have to dumb down The Sport just so noobs like you have a chance at keeping up.

I play in a $4,000 entry, Super-WCOFF, triple-reverse, double down, mirror league with a modified PPFDR base 8 scoring system, and we just held our draft in July. For the 2013 season. You think Matt Barkley getting the start in USC is news? I drafted him after studying up on him, after he signed his letter of intent, last year. You think that maybe going with a WR in the first two rounds instead of back-to-back RBs is somehow new thinking in fantasy? Well, do you have the balls to do what I did this year when I didn't take my first RB until the fourth round (Roderick Smith, Harding High School of Indiana)? You've probably never even heard of Martavis Bryant, Kyle Prater, or Darius White, yet not only did I draft them this year to form my future WR core, I've also started referring to them by fantasy board nicknames (Super Mart, KPrater, & DoubleDarius). Hell, guys like you are going to be the poor schmucks who are searching this board five years from now for info on some great RB you just heard of out of the middle of nowhere in Alaska, and the FBG search result box is going to come up with this very post, where I brag about nabbing Isaiah Weeks of the Monroe Catholic Rams at the 25.32/26.01 turn a full two months before he lit up Delta Junction for 193 yards/2 TDs or Ketchikan for 183 rushing yards, 55 rec yards, & 2 TDs. You'll be wondering about his durability and I'll remember a phone call I made back when you were just hearing the name "Knowshon Moreno" for the first time to the kid's doctor in Fairbanks about the sprain he suffered in his left ankle in 2008.

Let me give you a tip, IT = INFO, and there's no "expires by" date on it.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 07:06 PM

Ok, AE is a PITA, I know. As a vikes fan, he does us very little favors.

That said, objectively, the saints were obviously (and now it has been confirmed) playing dirty, and the officiating was terrible. The vikes turned it over far too many times, admitted. But you can't tell me the saints were the better team. And if you say 'yes they are, cause they won' then you hate logic. Worse teams beat better teams all the time.

Simply put, there are 3 components to football teams: offense, defense, and special teams.

In that game, the Vikings were definitely the better offensive team. But the Saints won the defensive and special teams battles. So I'm not sure why you think it defies logic to call the Saints the better team that day when they were better at 2 of the 3 facets of the game.

If you want to say the Vikings were clearly the better offensive team, I doubt you'd get much argument. Unfortunately, there's more to it than just that.

Are you nuts? The Saints didnt win the defensive battle.. They only had 70 yards in the second half. Minnesota was dominating both sides of the ball.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 07:30 PM

The best team doesn't always win.

(kremenull @ Aug 8 2009, 11:12 PM)
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The "Chosen One" would be Terrelle Pryor. He will give beatings not take them. And dodge them as well. And throw over/around them as well. Kid will be unreal after 2 more seasons in college. Will be the best QB prospect in the last, I dunno, EVER!)

LOL

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 07:51 PM

Ok, AE is a PITA, I know. As a vikes fan, he does us very little favors.

That said, objectively, the saints were obviously (and now it has been confirmed) playing dirty, and the officiating was terrible. The vikes turned it over far too many times, admitted. But you can't tell me the saints were the better team. And if you say 'yes they are, cause they won' then you hate logic. Worse teams beat better teams all the time.

Simply put, there are 3 components to football teams: offense, defense, and special teams.

In that game, the Vikings were definitely the better offensive team. But the Saints won the defensive and special teams battles. So I'm not sure why you think it defies logic to call the Saints the better team that day when they were better at 2 of the 3 facets of the game.

If you want to say the Vikings were clearly the better offensive team, I doubt you'd get much argument. Unfortunately, there's more to it than just that.
Are you nuts? The Saints didnt win the defensive battle.. They only had 70 yards in the second half. Minnesota was dominating both sides of the ball.

Vikings defense -- 1 fumble recovery, 0/1 on 4th down stoppage, 0 INTs, 4 TDs allowed, RZ defense allowed 3 scores out of 3 chances
Saints defense -- 6 forced fumbles with 3 fumble recoveries, 2 INTs, 4 TDs allowed, RZ defense allowed 4 scores out of 6 chances

And most importantly:

Vikings defense -- 31 pts allowed
Saints defense -- 28 pts allowed

Sorry son, but I don't have to dumb down The Sport just so noobs like you have a chance at keeping up.

I play in a $4,000 entry, Super-WCOFF, triple-reverse, double down, mirror league with a modified PPFDR base 8 scoring system, and we just held our draft in July. For the 2013 season. You think Matt Barkley getting the start in USC is news? I drafted him after studying up on him, after he signed his letter of intent, last year. You think that maybe going with a WR in the first two rounds instead of back-to-back RBs is somehow new thinking in fantasy? Well, do you have the balls to do what I did this year when I didn't take my first RB until the fourth round (Roderick Smith, Harding High School of Indiana)? You've probably never even heard of Martavis Bryant, Kyle Prater, or Darius White, yet not only did I draft them this year to form my future WR core, I've also started referring to them by fantasy board nicknames (Super Mart, KPrater, & DoubleDarius). Hell, guys like you are going to be the poor schmucks who are searching this board five years from now for info on some great RB you just heard of out of the middle of nowhere in Alaska, and the FBG search result box is going to come up with this very post, where I brag about nabbing Isaiah Weeks of the Monroe Catholic Rams at the 25.32/26.01 turn a full two months before he lit up Delta Junction for 193 yards/2 TDs or Ketchikan for 183 rushing yards, 55 rec yards, & 2 TDs. You'll be wondering about his durability and I'll remember a phone call I made back when you were just hearing the name "Knowshon Moreno" for the first time to the kid's doctor in Fairbanks about the sprain he suffered in his left ankle in 2008.

Let me give you a tip, IT = INFO, and there's no "expires by" date on it.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 11:46 AM

The Vikings outplayed the Saints. (33 votes [55.93%])
Percentage of vote: 55.93%
The Sainsts outplayed the Vikes. (26 votes [44.07%])

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 11:47 AM

Haha Sean Peyton! Reap the whirlwind! REAP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 11:49 AM

Vikings lost the game because they gave it away. Too many turnovers.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 10:00 AM

Vikings lost the game because they gave it away. Too many turnovers.

How many turnovers in OT did the Vikes have?

Saints won the coin toss, they got lucky. That's all.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 10:05 AM

Vikings lost the game because they gave it away. Too many turnovers.
How many turnovers in OT did the Vikes have?

Saints won the coin toss, they got lucky. That's all.

Stop it. You're embarrassing all of us.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 10:08 AM

Vikings lost the game because they gave it away. Too many turnovers.
How many turnovers in OT did the Vikes have?

Saints won the coin toss, they got lucky. That's all.
Stop it. You're embarrassing all of us.

Greg Williams is an embarrassement, this thread is not.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 10:38 AM

Vikings lost the game because they gave it away. Too many turnovers.
How many turnovers in OT did the Vikes have?

Saints won the coin toss, they got lucky. That's all.
Stop it. You're embarrassing all of us.

I'm not embarrassed. Give em hell, AE!!!

However, I'm pretty sure I've put this defeat to bed for once and all. At least until we find out the officials were also being paid by a felon as part of the bounty scheme...

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 10:41 AM

Vikings lost the game because they gave it away. Too many turnovers.
How many turnovers in OT did the Vikes have?

Saints won the coin toss, they got lucky. That's all.
Stop it. You're embarrassing all of us.
I'm not embarrassed. Give em hell, AE!!!

I know. #### the Saints!!!!!!!!! That's my motto.

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#44 KingPrawn

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 05:33 PM

This whining thread is still active? How long before it just dies? Until the Vi-queens win their ~~next~~ first Super Bowl?

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 03:36 AM

Wow, the Saints are freaking dirty. ADP said it. And everyone knew it watching that game. And now it's documented.

The Vikes outplayed the Saints. Almost doubled their offense. Saints only had 70 some yards in the second half. They got lucky, and were playing dirty.

Who outplayed who?

doesn't matter...it all comes down to one thing:
Favre's BONEHEADED int late in the game is what killed Minnesota.nothing the Saints did, there was no reason to attempt that pass... it happened at the WORST possible time...
it's up there with Manning's int vs Saints in the SB, and Favre's int in O/T against Giants in Championship game in 2007..

so dont blame the Saints and the bounty stuff..save that for another day.
the blame lies squarely at Favre's feet.

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 04:07 AM

Wow, the Saints are freaking dirty. ADP said it. And everyone knew it watching that game. And now it's documented.

The Vikes outplayed the Saints. Almost doubled their offense. Saints only had 70 some yards in the second half. They got lucky, and were playing dirty.

Who outplayed who?
doesn't matter...it all comes down to one thing:
Favre's BONEHEADED int late in the game is what killed Minnesota.nothing the Saints did, there was no reason to attempt that pass... it happened at the WORST possible time...
it's up there with Manning's int vs Saints in the SB, and Favre's int in O/T against Giants in Championship game in 2007..

so dont blame the Saints and the bounty stuff..save that for another day.
the blame lies squarely at Favre's feet.

The question is, who outplayed who? The Vikes gave the ball to the Saints 5 times and STILL TOOK THEM TO OVERTIME!!!

We lost the coin toss.., Saints got lucky..

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 10:05 AM

The true answer to your question

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 10:11 AM

The true answer to your question

Sweet, Sean Peyton and Greg Williams can spin their "deserved" rings on their kitchen tables all year and for life..

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 12:55 PM

The true answer to your question
Sweet, Sean Peyton and Greg Williams can spin their "deserved" rings on their kitchen tables all year and for life..

Exactly, and nobody in Minnesota can.

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 06:39 AM

The true answer to your question
Sweet, Sean Peyton and Greg Williams can spin their "deserved" rings on their kitchen tables all year and for life..

Exactly, and nobody in Minnesota can.

They'll be busy coaching..

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