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#1 timschochet

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 05:32 AM

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 05:46 AM

This one was a bit easier for me than other bracket.

WYWH
Abbey
Pepper
Doors

As an aside, I just listened to Back In Black on the way home last night in its entirety for the first time in ages. Terrific straight forward hard rock with some killer riffs, but seemed a much bigger deal when I was 12 than now. Kind of generic, actually.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 05:46 AM

My two favorites off this list are Led Zep II and Wish You Were Here. :wall:

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 05:48 AM

WYWH Abbey Pepper Doors

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 05:50 AM

This one was a bit easier for me than other bracket.

WYWH
Abbey
Pepper
Doors

As an aside, I just listened to Back In Black on the way home last night in its entirety for the first time in ages. Terrific straight forward hard rock with some killer riffs, but seemed a much bigger deal when I was 12 than now. Kind of generic, actually.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 05:56 AM

This one was a bit easier for me than other bracket. WYWH Abbey Pepper Doors

Exactly the way I voted.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:04 AM

Zep II, Abbey Rd, Sgt. Pepper, The Doors

i didn't like abbey rd. being up against let it bleed. i love both albums.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:06 AM

i didn't like abbey rd. being up against let it bleed. i love both albums.

yeah simey there have been some brutal matchups in these threads, it's been hard to vote against quite a few.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:11 AM

As an aside, I just listened to Back In Black on the way home last night in its entirety for the first time in ages. Terrific straight forward hard rock with some killer riffs, but seemed a much bigger deal when I was 12 than now. Kind of generic, actually.

i'll always love hells bells. :headbang:

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:11 AM

Don't really want to vote for the fourth one. Neither has any place within two continents of this conversation, imo. And odd that Wish You Were Here is here, seeing how it's arguably the weakest of the Meddle>Final Cut run. The most overrated of Floyd records, imo. If such a thing exists. Zep II Let It Bleed Sgt. Pepper Back in Black

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:18 AM


As an aside, I just listened to Back In Black on the way home last night in its entirety for the first time in ages. Terrific straight forward hard rock with some killer riffs, but seemed a much bigger deal when I was 12 than now. Kind of generic, actually.

i'll always love hells bells. :headbang:

One of my favorites, too, along with the second track "Shoot To Thrill". Kind of peters out a bit after that though, with the exception of the played-out title track and "You Shook Me All Night Long".

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:30 AM

Wow, no love here for Led Zeppelin IV. I know it's going up against Sgt. Pepper. But IV is probably Led Zeppelin's greatest album. Every song is great IMO.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:33 AM

Wow, no love here for Led Zeppelin IV. I know it's going up against Sgt. Pepper. But IV is probably Led Zeppelin's greatest album. Every song is great IMO.

As we've discussed a lot in the Zep threads, lots of varying opinions on the greatest Zep album. Since it's a favorite thread, I imagine that most of the Western world is probably a bit tired of ZoSo - hence the voting. Besides, it's going up against a behemoth in its own right, so it's no slight to lose here.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 07:05 AM

Don't really want to vote for the fourth one. Neither has any place within two continents of this conversation, imo.

:goodposting: Voted Led Zeppelin II Abbey Road Led Zeppelin IV Back in Black Tough to vote against Wish You Were Here.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 07:19 AM

Wow, no love here for Led Zeppelin IV. I know it's going up against Sgt. Pepper. But IV is probably Led Zeppelin's greatest album. Every song is great IMO.

Right, and Sgt Pepper is probably the most commonly cited greatest album period. It was a tough call for me, but the answer was always going to be Pepper.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 07:01 PM

Bump. One hour left and the last two albums in a close vote.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 07:06 PM

Voted for Sgt. Pepper's but surprised to see it have such a lead II Abbey Road The Doors
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 07:10 PM

Zep stones zep angus

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 07:33 PM

WYWH is light years better than Zep II. There, I said it.

There, you're wrong. As great as WYWH is.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 07:39 PM

WYWH is light years better than Zep II. There, I said it.

There, you're wrong. As great as WYWH is.

Yep. IMO, II is arguably Zep's best album.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 07:41 PM

WYWH is light years better than Zep II. There, I said it.

There, you're wrong. As great as WYWH is.

Yep. IMO, II is arguably Zep's best album.

That's good, because it's about to be the only one left in the tourney.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 07:43 PM

Wow, no love here for Led Zeppelin IV. I know it's going up against Sgt. Pepper. But IV is probably Led Zeppelin's greatest album. Every song is great IMO.

You can say that about all of Zep's first 6 albums
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 07:44 PM

As an aside, I just listened to Back In Black on the way home last night in its entirety for the first time in ages. Terrific straight forward hard rock with some killer riffs, but seemed a much bigger deal when I was 12 than now. Kind of generic, actually.

If AC/DC had an obituary, this would pretty much be the first sentence, no?
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 07:59 PM

Led Zeppelin II Abbey Road Sgt. Pepper The Doors
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:29 AM



As an aside, I just listened to Back In Black on the way home last night in its entirety for the first time in ages. Terrific straight forward hard rock with some killer riffs, but seemed a much bigger deal when I was 12 than now. Kind of generic, actually.

If AC/DC had an obituary, this would pretty much be the first sentence, no?

Somebody is going to have to explain to me how "terrific hard rock" and "killer riffs" can be considered generic.

I can appreciate that the level of musicianship required to reproduce those songs is nowhere near that of a Gilmore, but consider that
Van Gogh's work was viewed by his peers in the same way, yet they are still masterpieces.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:45 AM




As an aside, I just listened to Back In Black on the way home last night in its entirety for the first time in ages. Terrific straight forward hard rock with some killer riffs, but seemed a much bigger deal when I was 12 than now. Kind of generic, actually.

If AC/DC had an obituary, this would pretty much be the first sentence, no?

Somebody is going to have to explain to me how "terrific hard rock" and "killer riffs" can be considered generic.

I can appreciate that the level of musicianship required to reproduce those songs is nowhere near that of a Gilmore, but consider that
Van Gogh's work was viewed by his peers in the same way, yet they are still masterpieces.

I was saying generic to the extent that it seemed fresh back in 1980 - blew me away as a 12-year-old. But after hearing so much more AC/DC since then, it was basically similar riffs throughout most of their material. Just got kind of boring pretty quickly.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:51 AM

Floyd (the only PF album I'd rank over any of the others in this bracket, but it would've beaten all except the 2 Beatles, the Stones, and ZoSo) Beatles Beatles AC/DC (would've voted ZoSo if it had been in this matchup or the first)

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:05 AM





As an aside, I just listened to Back In Black on the way home last night in its entirety for the first time in ages. Terrific straight forward hard rock with some killer riffs, but seemed a much bigger deal when I was 12 than now. Kind of generic, actually.

If AC/DC had an obituary, this would pretty much be the first sentence, no?

Somebody is going to have to explain to me how "terrific hard rock" and "killer riffs" can be considered generic.

I can appreciate that the level of musicianship required to reproduce those songs is nowhere near that of a Gilmore, but consider that
Van Gogh's work was viewed by his peers in the same way, yet they are still masterpieces.

I was saying generic to the extent that it seemed fresh back in 1980 - blew me away as a 12-year-old. But after hearing so much more AC/DC since then, it was basically similar riffs throughout most of their material. Just got kind of boring pretty quickly.

I agree. I lost interest in most of the stuff they did after BIB. It's that way with a lot of rock for me. When people ask me why I don't have a lot of new stuff in my collection, I have to explain to them why it feels like I've already heard it all before.

The old stuff still sounds fresh to me because I gave up on radio 30 years ago and I have a big enough collection that, even though I listen to music at least an hour per day, there's nothing I listen to more than 1 or 2 times a year.

A classic is a classic. You never hear anybody say "Oh, not Mozart again! That stuff is SO overplayed." I think of a lot of rock in the same way.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:50 AM

A classic is a classic. You never hear anybody say "Oh, not Mozart again! That stuff is SO overplayed." I think of a lot of rock in the same way.

There are certain classical pieces that are totally overplayed. My dad used to complain that the classical radio station had the equivalent of a "Top 40" format where they would play the same stuff repeatedly and ignore slightly more obscure stuff. I would give some examples but I don't know much about classical.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:51 AM

A classic is a classic. You never hear anybody say "Oh, not Mozart again! That stuff is SO overplayed." I think of a lot of rock in the same way.

There are certain classical pieces that are totally overplayed. My dad used to complain that the classical radio station had the equivalent of a "Top 40" format where they would play the same stuff repeatedly and ignore slightly more obscure stuff. I would give some examples but I don't know much about classical.

Classical radio has about 9 people listening to it at any given time. If they were to move out of the top-40 for obscure stuff, they would likely lose 8 of the listeners.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:55 AM

A classic is a classic. You never hear anybody say "Oh, not Mozart again! That stuff is SO overplayed." I think of a lot of rock in the same way.

There are certain classical pieces that are totally overplayed. My dad used to complain that the classical radio station had the equivalent of a "Top 40" format where they would play the same stuff repeatedly and ignore slightly more obscure stuff. I would give some examples but I don't know much about classical.

Beethoven's #5, Bach's Brandenburg concertos, Vivaldi's 4 Seasons are a few that they overplay.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:56 AM


A classic is a classic. You never hear anybody say "Oh, not Mozart again! That stuff is SO overplayed." I think of a lot of rock in the same way.

There are certain classical pieces that are totally overplayed. My dad used to complain that the classical radio station had the equivalent of a "Top 40" format where they would play the same stuff repeatedly and ignore slightly more obscure stuff. I would give some examples but I don't know much about classical.

I would never complain about this piece.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:57 AM



A classic is a classic. You never hear anybody say "Oh, not Mozart again! That stuff is SO overplayed." I think of a lot of rock in the same way.

There are certain classical pieces that are totally overplayed. My dad used to complain that the classical radio station had the equivalent of a "Top 40" format where they would play the same stuff repeatedly and ignore slightly more obscure stuff. I would give some examples but I don't know much about classical.

I would never complain about this piece.

Cartoons did teach us the classics if nothing else.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:57 AM

A classic is a classic. You never hear anybody say "Oh, not Mozart again! That stuff is SO overplayed." I think of a lot of rock in the same way.

There are certain classical pieces that are totally overplayed. My dad used to complain that the classical radio station had the equivalent of a "Top 40" format where they would play the same stuff repeatedly and ignore slightly more obscure stuff. I would give some examples but I don't know much about classical.

Classical radio has about 9 people listening to it at any given time. If they were to move out of the top-40 for obscure stuff, they would likely lose 8 of the listeners.

Sure, I know why they do it. I'm just saying that Flying V is wrong that people don't complain that famous classical pieces are overplayed. I suspect it's actually a fairly common complaint of classical music fans. If it was famous enough to be featured in a Bugs Bunny cartoon, there are folks out there complaining that it's overplayed.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 05:00 AM

We really need to do a classical music in cartoons thread, if it hasn't already been done.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 05:03 AM

We really need to do a classical music in cartoons thread, if it hasn't already been done.

They did save a lot of copyright fees by using public domain songs.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 05:06 AM

We really need to do a classical music in cartoons thread, if it hasn't already been done.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 05:09 AM

Classical radio > pop/rock radio

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 05:11 AM


We really need to do a classical music in cartoons thread, if it hasn't already been done.

That's what I love about this place; you can never be too sure.

Just did a search for "classical" and didn't find such a thread, so it's on...




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