KellysHeroes
Footballguy
5 carries / 8 yards with a long of 9; 
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Chris Johnson 2012 (1 Viewer)
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Gave him a chance last year...didn't work out very well.
BuddyKnuckles
Footballguy
CJ got paid, thats all he wanted. He's a bum inside and out and i wouldnt touch him with your draft pick this year
ctrlaltdefeat
Footballguy
Not a bum but I'd be weary Of him this season.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
I consider last yr as part of the sample
Bottom line it can go either way with this guy in 2012. It's anyone's guess whether he is 2009 CJ or 2011 CJ. Unfortunately I have no choice but to go along for the ride bc I have him locked into a contract in my dynasty league from when he was CJ2K.
If I can get 1800 total yards and 8-10 Tds with 50 receptions I'll take it
If I can get 1800 total yards and 8-10 Tds with 50 receptions I'll take it
baconisgood
Footballguy
Watching CJ's runs I'm not concerned as an owner. He didn't look tentative or weak and with guys like CJ there will always be 5-10 carry stretches where he gains 2 yards a touch. The offensive line didn't look great and CJ dropped 2 balls so I'm not looking for a CJ2k year but a 1,600/10 like 2010 looks like its in the cards.
duaneok66
Footballguy
So he's blameless??
meanjoegreen
Footballguy
Ray Rice had 3 carries / 4 yards with a long of 3.'KellysHeroes said:5 carries / 8 yards with a long of 9;
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Shouldn't you be happy that he was featured so much? I loved the fact that they threw multiple screens at him.....next time he will catch them and he will get you good chunks of yards
Childress
Footballguy
Exactly, all I wanted to see is if he still would be featured and he still had his speed (with the gained muscle and all). The 9 yard run where he reversed field showed me his elite speed. I'm good with that.
This thread doesn't make any sense. No RB comes out and rips yardage off a solid, fresh defense like that. I'm not concerned at all about what happens on the first 5 carries. Let me get a look at him late in the 3rd and during the 4th quarter when the defense is tired and they've been able to stretch the field a bit. That's when CJ rips off a few 20-yarders. Most of his yardage comes from eventually breaking one open late in the game. I sincerely hope he does nothing but run 5-10 times each preseason game so everyone tanks his stock for not being able to gain many yards. Learn some football fellas.
ctrlaltdefeat
Footballguy
I learned me some football last season and he looks the same.
Lord Fantasy
Footballguy
Not sure what "like crap" means here. That he was dancing and picking around looking for a chance to break a big run? Because that's how he plays. He's never been a straight ahead, downhill type and he never will be. Sometimes he gets stuffed. Sometimes he reverses direction, cuts all the way across the line of scrimmage and turns up field for a TD. You take the salt with the sweet on this guy. And as another poster said at least he's in the mix.
What I'd like to know is why there is so much bitterness around this player. Was it the holdout? The rap single? Did he go to people's houses and poke holes in their condoms? I don't get it.
What I'd like to know is why there is so much bitterness around this player. Was it the holdout? The rap single? Did he go to people's houses and poke holes in their condoms? I don't get it.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
How many bums ever run for 2,000 yards in the NFL? Sour grapes but c'mon.
HurryUpSundays
Footballguy
He will have some weeks that he will win some folks their match ups, he will have some less than mediocre weeks as well.
He is a 3 down back with potential to take it to the house on every play. That workload and that potential still make him one of the highest upside guys out of the top 3 RBs.
However, I will be steering clear.
He is a 3 down back with potential to take it to the house on every play. That workload and that potential still make him one of the highest upside guys out of the top 3 RBs.
However, I will be steering clear.
Problem is I was afraid to even start him, especially after he burned me repeatedly early on. A big percentage of his stats came in just 3 games later on in the year, and he only had 4 100 yard games and 4 TDs (total, none receiving) the entire season. 6 of his games he had 34 rushing yards or fewer, and 6 others he only got 50-60 rushing yards. So 12 of 16 games he was basically trash, which is insane for a first round pick that is supposed to anchor your squad. Even against soft defenses like Indy, he just kept laying turds.I realize his end of year stats don't look bad, but he was killing me last year, even in a PPR. I think I missed his first big game because he had been relegated to the bench by then. Then when I finally thought he might be startable again, the week after he screws me over again by putting up 5 points against Atlanta. That is why so many people are skeptical and hesitant to draft him high again this year.
Todem
Footballguy
I know....let's call him a bum too.These threads after week one of a meaningless pre-season game always crack me up.What I look for in pre-season.1) Rookies...are they deer in headlights or players2) Unknown gems.Veteran observations? Useless till game three when you get a dress rehearsal, a game plan and some meaningful playing time.Chris Johnson will have a very solid year. Last season was rough, a holdout, a change in the staff etc. I see more a return to form for him. The kid is a heck of a talent.Ray Rice had 3 carries / 4 yards with a long of 3.'KellysHeroes said:5 carries / 8 yards with a long of 9;
Todem
Footballguy
Oh child please.
Run It Up
Footballguy
Top 10 RB, horrible.
Run It Up
Footballguy
I had him on a few of my teams, im not so quick to forget hes previous 3 years of probowl production over 1 year of top 10 production.
Awful Waffle
Footballguy
I'll go one better. LeSean McCoy had -5 yards on two touches in his first game. I've taken CJ in more than one league, partly because I got a rough hand as far as where I picked and the elite "safe" RB's (McCoy/Foster/Rice) were gone. So I went with Johnson, who despite the bad year, doesn't have injury question marks. In a year with SO many of those, I'll take the guy I can count on to be on the field.Ray Rice had 3 carries / 4 yards with a long of 3.'KellysHeroes said:5 carries / 8 yards with a long of 9;
http://www.titansonline.com/news/article-1/Camp-Notebook-Defense-Shows-Experience-Gained-During-2011-Season/7cceeb13-8fc6-4034-b305-e9e14487b0a8
GAME OF ADJUSTMENTS: The Titans purposefully did not prepare for the Seahawks to the level they will prepare for opponents during the regular season.
Coaches wanted to place more assessment on individual player performances on offense and defense than game plans and to see how their players reacted to an opponent’s moves.
Munchak said the strategy can lead to a skewing of stats. Chris Johnson started and had five carries for 8 yards, which included a loss of 3 on his first carry. Johnson responded with a 9-yard gain one play later. His other three carries when for 2, 4 and a loss of 1.
“When you go into games not game-planning them, they were attacking the line of scrimmage with eight guys right from the beginning to make sure Chris (Johnson) didn’t get going,” Munchak said. “As we got a feel for what they were doing, we started adjusting our calls and the running game started busting open, which I assume would have happened if Chris was in there. There were adjustments made to take advantage of what they were doing.”
GAME OF ADJUSTMENTS: The Titans purposefully did not prepare for the Seahawks to the level they will prepare for opponents during the regular season.
Coaches wanted to place more assessment on individual player performances on offense and defense than game plans and to see how their players reacted to an opponent’s moves.
Munchak said the strategy can lead to a skewing of stats. Chris Johnson started and had five carries for 8 yards, which included a loss of 3 on his first carry. Johnson responded with a 9-yard gain one play later. His other three carries when for 2, 4 and a loss of 1.
“When you go into games not game-planning them, they were attacking the line of scrimmage with eight guys right from the beginning to make sure Chris (Johnson) didn’t get going,” Munchak said. “As we got a feel for what they were doing, we started adjusting our calls and the running game started busting open, which I assume would have happened if Chris was in there. There were adjustments made to take advantage of what they were doing.”
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Grahamburn
Footballguy
This thread is funny.
Superdbs
Footballguy
Whatever. All Munchak did LAST year was make excuses for CJ, and now he's already spinning things again after one game. He definitely seemed to be running a little harder on his handful of carries, but the dropped pass looked really lazy, and he didn't really make much effort to get to the deflected one. It's really hard to trust a guy who so clearly wasn't even trying last year and who was falling down every time somebody breathed on him too hard. I want him to still be that same guy who put up those ridiculous numbers in the past, but the way he played last season spoke volumes to me. You can only blame the line and being out of shape for so long, makes me wonder what the excuse is going to be if he isn't producing this season.
Shutout
Footballguy
I think foster carried his first ne for 11 yards..Its not all in a vaccuum. What people are talking about here is everything from last year and a possible carry over. Its pre-season and all we have heard about from every Tenn. coach and CJ defender is how everything BUT CJ was a contributing factor last year. All we have heard from CJ himself is how he thinks he still ahs it and can do it all. Well, all these people sitting here from last year (and many of them burned from last year) basically are saying "ok, let's see it.. prove it..not with the mouth but on the field." Didn't see it this weekend.
Shutout
Footballguy
Point taken but you know how it is in FF MOP; you're either the thing that came before the sliced bread or your "Killing my roster you pathetic piece of grarbage!" People are extremeists in FF. People are wanting to see it if it exists and not feel like CJ is just another guy that did something "one time in a row". Patrick Jeffers looked like Victor Cruz...one time.People just want to see it.'Ministry of Pain said:
Shutout
Footballguy
That has been his M.O. since day one. The 2009 year got people to buy on past events but other than that year, he's always been the guy that half the time he's a weapon for you, the other half of the time he's Mr. 7 points. Feast or famine in the VJAX range of players.I'm like you. I pass on him. Upside is a nice word, but so is potential; which is a French word for "hasn't done S#i! yet!" The best words are "consistency and points. Put those together is what I am looking for. I'd rather lose my 1-2 matchups with CJ in the weeks he blows up and catches me than have him on my roster and cry in forums for 7 weeks of the year (and likely the playoffs).'HurryUpSundays said:
Shutout
Footballguy
I wouldn't be so quick to judge, either way.
Banger
Footballguy
He's got talent and he's going to be their entire offense. He probably won't be 2010 cj but I don't think he'll be 2011 cj. I think he'll end up where he's being drafted... Top 4 or 5.
VaTerp
Footballguy
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Did CJ do something to you? I've seen you use him as a negative comparison to other players in several threads in addition to the threads dedicated to him. He still had 1,400 total yards last year, and clearly he was not the same guy. There's a pretty good chance he bounces back.He looked pretty good to me last night.'Shutout said:
Abraham
Footballguy
They have one of the 3 best lines in football.
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Chris Johnson still had good weeks last year.
His problem was consistency. Just when you thought he was his old self he would put up a clunker. 12 of his 16 weeks he had 64 or less rushing yards. That is not good return on a high fantasy pick.
Need I remind people that last year Johnson's best game was against the bucs who were awful at stopping anything last year. He ran for 190 yards against them. Johnson did have a good game last night against that same Bucs team but I don't know what type of conclusion you can draw just yet.
I am not saying he wont bounce back, but you can't over react too much one way or the other yet at this stage.
His problem was consistency. Just when you thought he was his old self he would put up a clunker. 12 of his 16 weeks he had 64 or less rushing yards. That is not good return on a high fantasy pick.
Need I remind people that last year Johnson's best game was against the bucs who were awful at stopping anything last year. He ran for 190 yards against them. Johnson did have a good game last night against that same Bucs team but I don't know what type of conclusion you can draw just yet.
I am not saying he wont bounce back, but you can't over react too much one way or the other yet at this stage.
sspunisher
Footballguy
Is this sarcasm? Titans are definitely in the bottom 3rd of the NFL when it comes to oline.They have one of the 3 best lines in football.
