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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:09 PM

Seriously guys...please trade some of these arms for hitting. Team had a world championship caliber pitching staff and a AAA offense.

Trade Hellickson for a bat and sub in Chris Archer. Problem solved. :thumbup:

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:24 PM

:blackdot: Lets start with some Cy momentum.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:18 PM

Upton for Upton?
- no matter where you go, there you are.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:25 PM

Upton for Upton?

Wish we could. PRICE
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:32 PM

Do Rays fans have any thoughts on the idea that the Marlins trade kills any chance of the Rays getting a new stadium/surviving? http://keitholberman...odest-proposal/

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:50 PM

I remember when Price signed a ball for my 4 year old son back in 2009....I told him he'd want to hold onto that one. I'm a Tiger fan first, and there was an argument for JV, but Price deserved it.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 03:24 PM

Do Rays fans have any thoughts on the idea that the Marlins trade kills any chance of the Rays getting a new stadium/surviving? http://keitholberman...odest-proposal/

Nah that's dumb. The Rays don't have any fire sale history and the fans here don't hate the team. They hate the stadium location. The Rays are the most popular local franchise here.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:56 PM

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Do Rays fans have any thoughts on the idea that the Marlins trade kills any chance of the Rays getting a new stadium/surviving?

http://keitholberman...odest-proposal/

I don't see anything supporting his claim at all? Two completely different markets...and MLB and Sternberg know it.
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Posted 17 November 2012 - 10:11 AM

Played golf with D Shelton yesterday...great guy. He thinks the offense will be more of the same. No pitcher trades. We'll put together an assortment of role players to accent Longo, and just hope they hit better than the role guys did this year. Everything obviously rides on Longos health. Interesting note about Longo....Shelton met him in Arizona in the offseason prior to 2011...and both instantly realized that his swing was gone. Took months to get it back, tweak by tweak. Same meeting in 2012 and Longo was locked in from the beginning. Hope the '13 get together starts like that.
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Posted 26 November 2012 - 06:33 AM

Whooooooaaaaaa. Rays just extended Longo through 2023. :towelwave:
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Posted 26 November 2012 - 07:19 AM

That's a steal for TB. By the end of that contract Longoria will have to purchase an economy size spaceship. No fancy Italian ships for him.
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Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:00 AM

Awesome. I can't believe they were able to do that. Evan must really like it here.
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Posted 26 November 2012 - 03:09 PM

"We kind of tried to find a middle ground to where we would able to do some things to be able to afford some players to put ourselves in a position to win every year," Longoria said. "And I told them from the beginning that I didn't want to be the one sucking up all the payroll so we can't afford anybody else."

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 04:51 PM

"We kind of tried to find a middle ground to where we would able to do some things to be able to afford some players to put ourselves in a position to win every year," Longoria said. "And I told them from the beginning that I didn't want to be the one sucking up all the payroll so we can't afford anybody else."

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GB Evan Longoria Already a winning offseason.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:50 PM

"We kind of tried to find a middle ground to where we would able to do some things to be able to afford some players to put ourselves in a position to win every year," Longoria said. "And I told them from the beginning that I didn't want to be the one sucking up all the payroll so we can't afford anybody else."

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:48 PM

GB Evan Longoria

I think God has already blessed him quite a bit.
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 06:04 AM

BJ to the Braves. It's going to be interesting to see the exact opposite reaction to Crawford leaving. Everyone loved Carl when he was here, but because he chose to go to Boston, he became instantly hated. BJ had a lot if haters here, but I think most will wish him the best and continue to root for him to do well.
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Posted 03 December 2012 - 03:45 PM

Loney for $2M?
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Posted 03 December 2012 - 07:04 PM

Loney for $2M?

I like the signing. It's virtually no risk. Loney should be able to hit righties and field his position well enough to earn it back. The Rays should be able to find somebody to fill the short half of the platoon.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 07:15 PM


Loney for $2M?

I like the signing. It's virtually no risk. Loney should be able to hit righties and field his position well enough to earn it back. The Rays should be able to find somebody to fill the short half of the platoon.

Pat Burrell available?

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:51 AM

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Loney for $2M?

I like the signing. It's virtually no risk. Loney should be able to hit righties and field his position well enough to earn it back. The Rays should be able to find somebody to fill the short half of the platoon.

Pat Burrell available?

:lmao: We'll pass on Fat.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 05:30 AM

Yunel Escobar to the Rays!
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 05:36 AM

Yunel Escobar to the Rays!

Solid gamble. Guy has talent. These things usually work out well for TB. Hope he's been committed to his Anger Management classes.
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 10:24 AM

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 01:03 PM

Cappy must be doing a happy dance this offseason.

Been awesome. I'm kind of shocked.
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 04:26 PM

Don't understand the Longoria extension. Alot of money for a small market team to spend on a 3B who always gets dinged.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 04:32 PM

Don't understand the Longoria extension. Alot of money for a small market team to spend on a 3B who always gets dinged.

Not sure it matters a lot, but nothing could have made this fan base more excited. He does get dinged but there is no doubting his ability. I loved it.
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 04:33 PM

Don't understand the Longoria extension. Alot of money for a small market team to spend on a 3B who always gets dinged.

Not sure it matters a lot, but nothing could have made this fan base more excited. He does get dinged but there is no doubting his ability. I loved it.

Don't disagree at all on his ability. High character guy, great defender, and solid offensive player when healthy. But I just don't see the reason to re-sign him for such a long time. Injuries don't improve with age, and he plays a demanding position.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:57 PM

Don't understand the Longoria extension. Alot of money for a small market team to spend on a 3B who always gets dinged.

Not sure it matters a lot, but nothing could have made this fan base more excited. He does get dinged but there is no doubting his ability. I loved it.

Don't disagree at all on his ability. High character guy, great defender, and solid offensive player when healthy. But I just don't see the reason to re-sign him for such a long time. Injuries don't improve with age, and he plays a demanding position.

I can dig that. I think it was just the team showing a committment to a guy who they feel is ridiculously underpaid. And with the way the tv money is heading, his 2020 contract probably won't be all that awful, even if he doesn't stay all that healthy. I have to imagine worst-case scenario is he has to eventually move off of third. His bat would play just fine at first or DH.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:14 AM

:thumbup: Finally a few bats to go with the arms. No more Pena. Things are looking good.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:37 AM

:thumbup: Finally a few bats to go with the arms. No more Pena. Things are looking good.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:40 AM

:thumbup: Finally a few bats to go with the arms. No more Pena. Things are looking good.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:06 AM


:thumbup:

Finally a few bats to go with the arms.

No more Pena.


Things are looking good.

James Loney


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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:36 AM

I would take Pena as the lefty side of a DH platoon. :shrug:
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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:23 AM

I would take Pena as the lefty side of a DH platoon. :shrug:

Wil Myers says :hi: Why any trades with these guys is beyond me ...and any other team would kill for that Lonhoria contract. Just masterful this offseason.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 07:16 AM

I would take Pena as the lefty side of a DH platoon. :shrug:

Wil Myers says :hi:

They're still the Rays. I doubt we'll see Myers until after the Super Two cutoff.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 07:31 AM

Yea Myers isn't going to be up until June. Unless of course he gets the Longoria/Matt Moore special.
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Posted 13 December 2012 - 08:22 AM


I would take Pena as the lefty side of a DH platoon. :shrug:

Wil Myers says :hi:

Why any trades with these guys is beyond me

...and any other team would kill for that Lonhoria contract.

Just masterful this offseason.

Exactly. Here in the DFW area we are pretty fond of our Ranger front office, but even the local sports radio guys said several times this week that if any other GM looks at his caller ID and sees Tampa Bay the only correct move is to pick up the phone and say "No".

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 08:42 AM

I would take Pena as the lefty side of a DH platoon. :shrug:

Sub .200 average with 158 and 182 strikeouts respectively in his last two seasons as a Ray. I probably dislike him more than he deserves, but I've never seen a player make more unproductive outs on a consistent basis than Carlos Pena.
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Posted 13 December 2012 - 12:05 PM

I would take Pena as the lefty side of a DH platoon. :shrug:

Sub .200 average with 158 and 182 strikeouts respectively in his last two seasons as a Ray. I probably dislike him more than he deserves, but I've never seen a player make more unproductive outs on a consistent basis than Carlos Pena.

.342 OBP against RHP last year, with a sissified slugging. .388 and .504 in 2011. I dunno, probably not worth the trouble but if they get priced out elsewhere he can be had for 1 yr/2M.
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:05 AM

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1355185580[/url]' post='15105671'] Don't understand the Longoria extension. Alot of money for a small market team to spend on a 3B who always gets dinged.

Not sure it matters a lot, but nothing could have made this fan base more excited. He does get dinged but there is no doubting his ability. I loved it.

Don't disagree at all on his ability. High character guy, great defender, and solid offensive player when healthy. But I just don't see the reason to re-sign him for such a long time. Injuries don't improve with age, and he plays a demanding position.

How many position players with MVP level talent have the Rays had in their history, and how many will the Rays have in the next 5 years? I'd say two...CC and Longo....one is a lot more expensive.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:09 AM

The Rays have gotten approval to add the 'Turn Back the Clock' retro jersey to their regular season rotation this season....so you'll be seeing a lot it.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:33 PM

The Rays have gotten approval to add the 'Turn Back the Clock' retro jersey to their regular season rotation this season....so you'll be seeing a lot it.

Awesome.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 05:47 PM

The Rays have gotten approval to add the 'Turn Back the Clock' retro jersey to their regular season rotation this season....so you'll be seeing a lot it.

Awesome.

When do the jerseys hit the shelves? My fiancée also wants to know what the FBG buddy hook up/discount is for these. She loves them. ;)

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 04:20 PM

Wonder what the Rays will be able to get for Price next offseason.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 04:59 AM

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1357153783[/url]' post='15178339'] The Rays have gotten approval to add the 'Turn Back the Clock' retro jersey to their regular season rotation this season....so you'll be seeing a lot it.

Awesome.

When do the jerseys hit the shelves? My fiancée also wants to know what the FBG buddy hook up/discount is for these. She loves them. ;)

Should hit the Trop and Downtown store in Feb...not sure who else is going to carry yet....possibly just Lids/Sports fanatic. I'll pm you....
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 12:08 PM

1357177632[/url]' post='15179833']

1357162396[/url]' post='15179014']

1357153783[/url]' post='15178339'] The Rays have gotten approval to add the 'Turn Back the Clock' retro jersey to their regular season rotation this season....so you'll be seeing a lot it.

Awesome.

When do the jerseys hit the shelves? My fiancée also wants to know what the FBG buddy hook up/discount is for these. She loves them. ;)

Should hit the Trop and Downtown store in Feb...not sure who else is going to carry yet....possibly just Lids/Sports fanatic. I'll pm you....

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 11:55 AM

Michael Morse a fit? Sounds like the Nats want to trade with TB now that Laroche is signed.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 04:34 PM

Michael Morse a fit? Sounds like the Nats want to trade with TB now that Laroche is signed.

Hope so. Would be a good fit. Wonder what they are looking for?
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 05:56 AM

Michael Morse a fit? Sounds like the Nats want to trade with TB now that Laroche is signed.

Hope so. Would be a good fit. Wonder what they are looking for?

I like Morse and he definitely is the kind of bat they need. However, trading a player and paying him $7M for just this season doesn't seem like the Rays' style. His defense also leads a bit to be desired, and Morse has hinted at not being too interested in being a DH.
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