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Loaning a chick money 9/9/16 - Bye (3 Viewers)

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I've been trying to count the number of people in my life whom I'd actually bail out of jail and I don't think there's more than maybe 25 people total who meet that criteria. My immediate family, girlfriend's immediate family, a couple cousins, and maybe ~10 good friends. There's no way in hell I'm sticking my neck out there financially for some chick I kinda-sorta know...especially not one who has a some sort of past history with the law, as Ron has detailed here.Am I way off-base here? I've never bailed someone out of jail before. Is this something where you actually feel differently when someone calls you asking for help and you can't really gauge it if you've never done it before?
Now imagine you were getting :football: from those people on the reg.... 25 people is a lot of people. I would bail out anyone I thought was good for it as long as it didn't break me. And I would also do what AZ did to help a friend move if they needed it. I've helped a lot of friends move. Sometimes they are packed with rented truck ready to go, sometimes they wait for you to show up before packing. That always sucks. Tests the levels of your friendship. In the end, if it's a friend, I'd get the truck and labor just to get it all done. Not a big deal. No :pickle: necessary.
Well, at least someone agrees with me.
 
I didn't edit this yet, just freehand writing:

Friday night.

I put the kid down and had a sit down with my wife. We talked for hours in a very long and very honest conversation; so long, that a transcript of the conversation would not make sense without the totality and context. In short, we agreed that neither one of us should have “a separate relationship”; either we invite a guest or nothing at all. That’s the way it’s always been although I’ve tagged a few on the side without letting on and I’m guessing she’s done the same. More importantly, I need to go back to treating side-#####es like well, side-#####es. We went to bed and had the most emotion-filled lights-on sex we’ve had in a long time.

Saturday

I asked if my wife and daughter wanted to go out for dinner but my wife reminded me that my daughter is having a “pizza and movie birthday sleepover” at her friend’s house. She been looking forward to it all week and my wife even bought her a new Disney Princes pajamas and sleeping bag; there was no way my daughter was missing this.

We drop my daughter off and I asked my wife what she wants to do. She says: “How about we have our own “pizza and movie birthday sleepover”. :lol: I say, “Babe, we can do whatever you like”. After a round of texts, she has Girl 1 and Girl 3 coming over to hang out.

(aside – Girl 1 and Girl 3 didn’t have names because I frankly didn’t see them as important to the original issue but since they keep coming up I’m going to put some more explanation into them.

Girl 3 sells Accounting Software; I either see her dressed in business attire or wearing sweatpants and Uggs. She’s very outgoing and comfortable in her own skin. She doesn’t strike me as the hardcore lesbo that Amber is. She’s in her late 20s, tall and white with dirty blonde hair.

Girl 1 is quiet. I really don’t know much about her because she gets run over in conversations by my wife and Girl 3. She’s short, white and also has dirty blonde hair. She has a nose ring, lip ring, ear gauges and she’s usually wearing kind of a hip-hop look. Based on her dress and piercings, you’d think she’s in her early 20s but my wife said she’s almost 30.)

She insists that I invite from friends too. Wife: “What about Lance, his girlfriend and Angie?” Me: “Um, how about no Angie”. Wife: (In a playful tone) “Babe, you have to address issues head-on. You can’t avoid conflict (I made that exact statement to her a thousand times but usually associated with business/work issues. She gets a kick out of throwing it back at me whenever possible).

I call Lance and invite him and his girlfriend and say, “oh bring Angie if you want”. By the time everyone shows up, it’s about 10pm. Lance shows up with Angie (girlfriend is sick). By midnight, the girls (including my wife) and Lance were all rolling on mollys; drugs have never been my thing so I stick to alcohol.

My wife drags me downstairs to my basement (it’s finished, large couch, TV etc.) and turns on porn and turns up the raido. We’re downstairs making out and Girl 3 shows up shortly after and joins in. Angie is now hovering around the entrance to my basement; my wife and Girl 3 are high as kites right now rubbing on each other so I pull Angie near us and push her head down for :football: while leaning over rubbing my wife and Girl 3. Girl 1 shows up and jumped in like it was her queue when she saw Girl 3’s ##### in the air. Angie is really not very good at :football: and it doesn’t really go far past the tip.

I pause and lean back with my eyes closed to concentrate while Angie is trying her best when I hear. AAEEKKKK (and chocking noise, I feel Angie’s teeth and my wife saying "“suck it"”. She pushed her head down on me – the girls laughed; Angie stopped for a bit, wiped a tear and then started laughing. My wife then grabs Angie and basically forces her down on her (I don’t think Angie is in to women but she did live with Amber for a year, how is a full-blown lesbo so I’m sure she’s nibbled once or twice).

While this is going on, I decide to take a shot at Girl 1. I touch her ### and reposition her to try a poke; she lets me know with a hand signal that that’s not going to happen. Girl 3 sees this and immediately grabs my hand and pulls me to her; I started to go down but she cocked her legs and pulled my shoulders to her – insert - damn she’s tighter than an airplane bathroom. I didn’t last long.

I switch back to my wife and then notice Lance finally made his way downstairs and walks in. He stood at the doorway for a bit kind of like a kid waiting to get picked for kickball. I push Angie over toward him; she walks over to Lance but Lance pulls away and leaves.

The rest of us went on for a while. I later took my wife up to bed. I was pretty much hangover all day Sunday and Monday got busy so sorry for the late update.

I talked to Lance the next day, he said he loves his girlfriend and couldn't cheat on her. :mellow:

 
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I didn't edit this yet, just freehand writing:

Friday night.

I put the kid down and had a sit down with my wife. We talked for hours in a very long and very honest conversation; so long, that a transcript of the conversation would not make sense without the totality and context. In short, we agreed that neither one of us should have “a separate relationship”; either we invite a guest or nothing at all. That’s the way it’s always been although I’ve tagged a few on the side without letting on and I’m guessing she’s done the same. More importantly, I need to go back to treating side-#####es like well, side-#####es. We went to bed and had the most emotion-filled lights-on sex we’ve had in a long time.

Saturday

I asked if my wife and daughter wanted to go out for dinner but my wife reminded me that my daughter is having a “pizza and movie birthday sleepover” at her friend’s house. She been looking forward to it all week and my wife even bought her a new Disney Princes pajamas and sleeping bag; there was no way my daughter was missing this.

We drop my daughter off and I asked my wife what she wants to do. She says: “How about we have our own “pizza and movie birthday sleepover”. :lol: I say, “Babe, we can do whatever you like”. After a round of texts, she has Girl 1 and Girl 3 coming over to hang out.

(aside – Girl 1 and Girl 3 didn’t have names because I frankly didn’t see them as important to the original issue but since they keep coming up I’m going to put some more explanation into them.

Girl 3 sells Accounting Software; I either see her dressed in business attire or wearing sweatpants and Uggs. She’s very outgoing and comfortable in her own skin. She doesn’t strike me as the hardcore lesbo that Amber is. She’s in her late 20s, tall and white with dirty blonde hair.

Girl 1 is quiet. I really don’t know much about her because she gets run over in conversations by my wife and Girl 3. She’s short, white and also has dirty blonde hair. She has a nose ring, lip ring, ear gauges and she’s usually wearing kind of a hip-hop look. Based on her dress and piercings, you’d think she’s in her early 20s but my wife said she’s almost 30.)

She insists that I invite from friends too. Wife: “What about Lance, his girlfriend and Angie?” Me: “Um, how about no Angie”. Wife: (In a playful tone) “Babe, you have to address issues head-on. You can’t avoid conflict (I made that exact statement to her a thousand times but usually associated with business/work issues. She gets a kick out of throwing it back at me whenever possible).

I call Lance and invite him and his girlfriend and say, “oh bring Angie if you want”. By the time everyone shows up, it’s about 10pm. Lance shows up with Angie (girlfriend is sick). By midnight, the girls (including my wife) and Lance were all rolling on mollys; drugs have never been my thing so I stick to alcohol.

My wife drags me downstairs to my basement (it’s finished, large couch, TV etc.) and turns on porn and turns up the raido. We’re downstairs making out and Girl 3 shows up shortly after and joins in. Angie is now hovering around the entrance to my basement; my wife and Girl 3 are high as kites right now rubbing on each other so I pull Angie near us and push her head down for :football: while leaning over rubbing my wife and Girl 3. Girl 1 shows up and jumped in like it was her queue when she saw Girl 3’s ##### in the air. Angie is really not very good at :football: and it doesn’t really go far past the tip.

I pause and lean back with my eyes closed to concentrate while Angie is trying her best when I hear. AAEEKKKK (and chocking noise, I feel Angie’s teeth and my wife saying "“suck it"”. She pushed her head down on me – the girls laughed; Angie stopped for a bit, wiped a tear and then started laughing. My wife then grabs Angie and basically forces her down on her (I don’t think Angie is in to women but she did live with Amber for a year, how is a full-blown lesbo so I’m sure she’s nibbled once or twice).

While this is going on, I decide to take a shot at Girl 1. I touch her ### and reposition her to try a poke; she lets me know with a hand signal that that’s not going to happen. Girl 3 sees this and immediately grabs my hand and pulls me to her; I started to go down but she cocked her legs and pulled my shoulders to her – insert - damn she’s tighter than an airplane bathroom. I didn’t last long.

I switch back to my wife and then notice Lance finally made his way downstairs and walks in. He stood at the doorway for a bit kind of like a kid waiting to get picked for kickball. I push Angie over toward him; she walks over to Lance but Lance pulls away and leaves.

The rest of us went on for a while. I later took my wife up to bed. I was pretty much hangover all day Sunday and Monday got busy so sorry for the late update.

I talked to Lance the next day, he said he loves his girlfriend and couldn't cheat on her. :mellow:
This Arizona Ron guy is the truth. There I said it.
 
Lol, poor Lance. And lol at your wife dominating Angie.Also, someone explain what a molly is to me.ETA: Nevermind, google'd it. No one calls it X anymore?

 
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I must say though, it's very odd how your wife wants to keep Angie in your life. You're telling her that you need to see less of Angie and then your wife drops her drunk ### off right in your lap. You talk AGAIN about keeping/treating side pieces as such and then she invites your girlfriend over. You try to make time for your wife and family and then your wife turns these occasions into orgies...NTTAWWT

 
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On Saturday the wife and I finally made it to this amazing huge farmer's market we've been meaning to check out, then a Mexican place her boss recommended for lunch. We came home, wife started making spaghetti sauce from scratch and meatballs while I worked in the garage for about 4 hours, cleaning, assembling shelves, organizing. I'm really happy with the results and had been putting it off for a long time. Dinner was amazing.

 
Nice but lacking in the drama that made this story great. Hopefully, this is just a set up for some new material. Maybe girl 1 is going to get more camera time. Maybe Angie is going to be irritated about the wife's teasing or Lance's shut down. Funny that the racks are not even discussed any longer.

 
There are guys out there that would kill for the kind of life that AZ Ron leads.
It's really not worth the drama.
Granted, I couldn't live the life, because I'm happy with just one woman, but some guys might see the drama as the flip side of a pretty awesome coin in their minds.
You are all deluding yourselves if you think being with 1 woman instead of many keeps your life drama free. The only drama free sexual relationship possible is with your hand.
 
There are guys out there that would kill for the kind of life that AZ Ron leads.
It's really not worth the drama.
Granted, I couldn't live the life, because I'm happy with just one woman, but some guys might see the drama as the flip side of a pretty awesome coin in their minds.
You are all deluding yourselves if you think being with 1 woman instead of many keeps your life drama free. The only drama free sexual relationship possible is with your hand.
It certainly has some drama, but the drama with one woman is certainly less than with multiple women.
 
Lets talk for a second about AZ Rons wifes attempt at choking AngieDo you think this was a power play on her part. Her way of saying, he is my man and I can choke you with his penis if I want toOr do you think this was some sort of sexual arousal for hermaybe bothdiscuss

 
Lets talk for a second about AZ Rons wifes attempt at choking AngieDo you think this was a power play on her part. Her way of saying, he is my man and I can choke you with his penis if I want toOr do you think this was some sort of sexual arousal for hermaybe bothdiscuss
I definitely think both. Per one, the domination and "revenge" of the action of making the girl who has caused some significant strife between our hero and his wife submissive to both of them simulateously is obvious. It's also entirely clear Mrs. AZ Ron takes at the very least no issue with our hero getting strange so I think the logical inference is that she probably digs it.
 
On Saturday the wife and I finally made it to this amazing huge farmer's market we've been meaning to check out, then a Mexican place her boss recommended for lunch. We came home, wife started making spaghetti sauce from scratch and meatballs while I worked in the garage for about 4 hours, cleaning, assembling shelves, organizing. I'm really happy with the results and had been putting it off for a long time. Dinner was amazing.
I mounted my kids' 2 LCD TVs in their rooms Saturday. My son's room required some re-arrangement to work, so that pretty much took up the whole day. Wife and kids wanted takeout from the local Italian place. Im not a fan, so I got some bw3 chipotle/garlic/parmesean wings to go.Solid day. :thumbup:
 
So Ron, things are copacetic between you and the wife now? Did the conversation bring out anything new or is the end result a simple reaffirmation of the boundaries?

 
Lol, poor Lance. And lol at your wife dominating Angie.Also, someone explain what a molly is to me.ETA: Nevermind, google'd it. No one calls it X anymore?
I just learned from my kid's book that a female kitten is a molly. I felt like I learned something interesting until this thread came along. FML.
 
I didn't edit this yet, just freehand writing:

Friday night.

I put the kid down and had a sit down with my wife. We talked for hours in a very long and very honest conversation; so long, that a transcript of the conversation would not make sense without the totality and context. In short, we agreed that neither one of us should have “a separate relationship”; either we invite a guest or nothing at all. That’s the way it’s always been although I’ve tagged a few on the side without letting on and I’m guessing she’s done the same. More importantly, I need to go back to treating side-#####es like well, side-#####es. We went to bed and had the most emotion-filled lights-on sex we’ve had in a long time.

Saturday

I asked if my wife and daughter wanted to go out for dinner but my wife reminded me that my daughter is having a “pizza and movie birthday sleepover” at her friend’s house. She been looking forward to it all week and my wife even bought her a new Disney Princes pajamas and sleeping bag; there was no way my daughter was missing this.

We drop my daughter off and I asked my wife what she wants to do. She says: “How about we have our own “pizza and movie birthday sleepover”. :lol: I say, “Babe, we can do whatever you like”. After a round of texts, she has Girl 1 and Girl 3 coming over to hang out.

(aside – Girl 1 and Girl 3 didn’t have names because I frankly didn’t see them as important to the original issue but since they keep coming up I’m going to put some more explanation into them.

Girl 3 sells Accounting Software; I either see her dressed in business attire or wearing sweatpants and Uggs. She’s very outgoing and comfortable in her own skin. She doesn’t strike me as the hardcore lesbo that Amber is. She’s in her late 20s, tall and white with dirty blonde hair.

Girl 1 is quiet. I really don’t know much about her because she gets run over in conversations by my wife and Girl 3. She’s short, white and also has dirty blonde hair. She has a nose ring, lip ring, ear gauges and she’s usually wearing kind of a hip-hop look. Based on her dress and piercings, you’d think she’s in her early 20s but my wife said she’s almost 30.)

She insists that I invite from friends too. Wife: “What about Lance, his girlfriend and Angie?” Me: “Um, how about no Angie”. Wife: (In a playful tone) “Babe, you have to address issues head-on. You can’t avoid conflict (I made that exact statement to her a thousand times but usually associated with business/work issues. She gets a kick out of throwing it back at me whenever possible).

I call Lance and invite him and his girlfriend and say, “oh bring Angie if you want”. By the time everyone shows up, it’s about 10pm. Lance shows up with Angie (girlfriend is sick). By midnight, the girls (including my wife) and Lance were all rolling on mollys; drugs have never been my thing so I stick to alcohol.

My wife drags me downstairs to my basement (it’s finished, large couch, TV etc.) and turns on porn and turns up the raido. We’re downstairs making out and Girl 3 shows up shortly after and joins in. Angie is now hovering around the entrance to my basement; my wife and Girl 3 are high as kites right now rubbing on each other so I pull Angie near us and push her head down for :football: while leaning over rubbing my wife and Girl 3. Girl 1 shows up and jumped in like it was her queue when she saw Girl 3’s ##### in the air. Angie is really not very good at :football: and it doesn’t really go far past the tip.

I pause and lean back with my eyes closed to concentrate while Angie is trying her best when I hear. AAEEKKKK (and chocking noise, I feel Angie’s teeth and my wife saying "“suck it"”. She pushed her head down on me – the girls laughed; Angie stopped for a bit, wiped a tear and then started laughing. My wife then grabs Angie and basically forces her down on her (I don’t think Angie is in to women but she did live with Amber for a year, how is a full-blown lesbo so I’m sure she’s nibbled once or twice).

While this is going on, I decide to take a shot at Girl 1. I touch her ### and reposition her to try a poke; she lets me know with a hand signal that that’s not going to happen. Girl 3 sees this and immediately grabs my hand and pulls me to her; I started to go down but she cocked her legs and pulled my shoulders to her – insert - damn she’s tighter than an airplane bathroom. I didn’t last long.

I switch back to my wife and then notice Lance finally made his way downstairs and walks in. He stood at the doorway for a bit kind of like a kid waiting to get picked for kickball. I push Angie over toward him; she walks over to Lance but Lance pulls away and leaves.

The rest of us went on for a while. I later took my wife up to bed. I was pretty much hangover all day Sunday and Monday got busy so sorry for the late update.

I talked to Lance the next day, he said he loves his girlfriend and couldn't cheat on her. :mellow:
This Arizona Ron guy is the truth troof. There I said it.
Fixed.
 
Lets talk for a second about AZ Rons wifes attempt at choking AngieDo you think this was a power play on her part. Her way of saying, he is my man and I can choke you with his penis if I want toOr do you think this was some sort of sexual arousal for hermaybe bothdiscuss
oh....she clearly was making angie her prison bi atch
 
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Ok, serious note:First, it's apparent that Ron and his wife, so long as they are open and honest, seem to have a good thing going. That said, and not to be a downer, someone brought up a good point regarding Ron suggesting a little private time and it turning into a full blown orgy.Now, maybe this is indeed what works best for them and I can't speak for Ron, but Id suggest there may (may) be SOME need for time alone. Whether its just relaxing and having fun without sex, or just with each other. That said, regardless of whether this issue exists underneath, a good lesson in being upfront and open in a relationship for all of us, whatever lifestyle we each choose with our spouse.

 
Well now I'll be sad if this story ends with anything less than Angie living in the guest room, wearing a collar that reads "Property of Mr. & Mrs. Arizona Ron", and only answering to the name 'F-Toy'.

 

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