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If by "all the tools" you mean "completely mediocre skill set" then I agree. Pead is not that good. Lacks power. Lacks explosiveness. All he really has is foot quickness. Richardson is the better athlete and talent. That's why the coaches who see them in practice every day have overwhelmingly favored him from the get-go despite having less investment in him. If you look at the track record of rookies who get severely outplayed by a less-heralded rookie teammate who plays their same position, it's not very good. Pead is just another Bryant Johnson, Juaquin Iglesias, Antonio Pittman, or Brian Robiskie. I do think he's a decent bottom of the barrel dynasty buy low if you can get him for something like a mid 3rd-4th round rookie pick, but I'm not exactly optimistic about his future.
Just imagine a hypothetical where Pead were drafted in the same spot this season. Now that places his value somewhere in the 2nd round of dynasty drafts probably. So there is your jumping off point for his value. Nothing really changed this season except we saw he wasn't really ready. Obviously with Richardson there, his value is driven down some. But I still think he's worth a third round pick in dynasties right now just based on where he was picked and by whom. Same goes for A.J. Jenkins in San Fran, probably even moreso.
I saw him play plenty when he was at Cincinnati. He isn't that good.
The critical difference is that Jenkins has been losing PT to veterans whereas Pead has been losing PT to a rookie. With Jenkins, you can make the excuse that he isn't playing because the guys ahead of him have more experience and are less likely to make rookie mistakes. With Pead you can make the excuse that...well...there is no excuse. Daryl Richardson comes from a lower level of competition, had fewer touches in college, and was drafted much lower.
This is a very tough thing to find. Terdell Middleton (Cardinals 1977 3rd and traded to GB) who had fewer carries than rookie teammate Nate Simpson (GB 1977 5th). Middleton had 1100/11 as the starter his 2nd year but not much after that.A close one I found was Wilbert Montgomery (1977 Eagles). He had fewer carries than rookie teammate James Betterson, but Betterson was drafted and cut by the Broncos the prior year and didn't have a carry.
Ahman Green comes to mind too.
I. Pead
Isn't this message board based on posters giving their opinions on players?
Didn't the rest of this quote state that Fisher also thinks Daryl Richardson could be the lead back for the Rams?ETA: Here is the full Fisher quote(s):
That line is part of the same quote that talks about Pead and then Richardson. I'm assuming the question that he was asked pertained to Pead - and those were his thoughts. It implies right now both backs will be used.
I'm 99.9% sure that DRich isn't a guy who can carry enough of a load to be FF relevant. Pead at least has a chance to be more.Richardson might get 150-175 or so touches max, so even if he gets more work then Pead he's still essentially worthless.If Pead ends up sucking then so be it, but we know what DRich is, and that's a COP back who isn't valuable for FF purposes.
Why are you sure of that? Just because he's small? And why is Pead more likely to be a feature back, because he weighs 1 pound more at the same height? Richardson is 5'10", 196 and Pead is 5'10", 197. What makes Pead more likely to be a feature back?Here's a link to Richardson's rookie year highlights. What tells you on there he can't be a feature back? He runs inside. He breaks a few tackles and moves a few piles.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv5Ckwq2N04Either in this thread or another I said that the Rams will likely draft or sign a bigger back if they lose Jackson, so I don't necessarily disagree that he will not be a bellcow, but I can also see Richardson being used as a lead back in a RBBC. I think he's quite talented.
He plays small. Height/Weight doesn't tell the whole story and i highly doubt he was playing at 195+ during the season. Just look at him, he looks a lot smaller then that listed weight. also when you get 3-5 carries a game it's easy to go all out, IMO he won't be able to do it if given a bigger load. The Rams staff probably knows that though so he won't be given the opportunity to be more then a COP RB.I'll be shocked if he ever gets over 180 touches in a season.Why are you sure of that? Just because he's small? And why is Pead more likely to be a feature back, because he weighs 1 pound more at the same height? Richardson is 5'10", 196 and Pead is 5'10", 197. What makes Pead more likely to be a feature back?Here's a link to Richardson's rookie year highlights. What tells you on there he can't be a feature back? He runs inside. He breaks a few tackles and moves a few piles.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv5Ckwq2N04Either in this thread or another I said that the Rams will likely draft or sign a bigger back if they lose Jackson, so I don't necessarily disagree that he will not be a bellcow, but I can also see Richardson being used as a lead back in a RBBC. I think he's quite talented.
What has Pead done to deserve a lead back role? At least Richardson flash some goods last year, which is more than I can say about Pead.
But he was picked in the 2nd round!!! (Sarcasm)
What does everyone else see? In my leagues, Richardson appears the better buy because the Pead owner still believes he's going to be great because he was a 2nd round NFL pick and drafted in late 1st in FF rookie draft. Richardson is some scrub WW guy.
In the leagues I'm in and in other leagues that I've seen, it appears that DRich carries a higher price tag. Pead isn't worthless to owners(not trading for a 3rd rounder in my experience) but a mid 2nd rounder should get it done. DRich seems to command 1.11-2.05 price tag, in terms of rookie picks.
This is my take also. Richardson feels a little safer, Pead feels like he might have the higher ceiling. Neither is anything to get super excited about.
What did Ahmad Bradshaw do to lose his job? Was it his production?Why didn't Ronnie Hillman take over for McGahee in Denver? Just because a guy is listed second on the depth chart it does not mean he gets the lead role as next in line. Look at it as two different roles although there is only one position. Richardson will maintain his role from last year. Pead will take over for Sjax.
You might be right, but you have nothing to base that on, except a guess.
Edumacated guess.
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I don't think many are claiming that Pead is too small to be fantasy relevant so much as most are claiming that he's spectacularly unspectacular, which I would agree with. I also don't really get the comparision to Charles. Pead's 4.5 spead at his size doesn't help his cause, which Charles' sub 4.4 speed is a big reason he's such a threat. There's a huge difference there.
Yes, but there were those who always were excited about Charles upside - don't recall that level of enthusiam about Pead, even before his rookie season began.
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