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#1 Officer Pete Malloy

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:13 AM

http://www.rawstory....no-tip-receipt/ Applebee’s fires waitress for exposing pastor’s ‘give God 10%’ no-tip receipt

A waitress says she was fired from her job at Applebee’s after posting a note from a pastor who refused to tip, writing that “I give God 10% Why do you get 18.” The waitress, who identified herself only as Chelsea, told The Consumerist that she originally posted the photo on the atheist section of social media website Reddit as a “lighthearted joke.” “I thought the note was insulting, but it was also comical,” she explained. “I posted it to Reddit because I thought other users would find it entertaining.” On the receipt she posted, Applebee’s computer system had added an automatic 18 percent gratuity because the dinner party had eight or more people. But the customer scratched out the $6.29 tip and wrote “0.” The receipt included a note about giving God 10 percent and a signature which indicated that the diner was a “pastor.” “My mistake sir, I’m sure Jesus will pay for my rent and groceries,” Chelsea wrote on Reddit on Wednesday along with a photo of the receipt. The waitress said that the she failed to redact the signature because she thought it was illegible, but Internet sleuths began using it to obtain the pastor’s identity. “I had already started receiving messages containing Facebook profile links and blogs and websites, asking me to confirm the identity of the customer,” she recalled. “I refused to confirm any of them, and all of them were incorrect. I worked with the website moderators to remove any personal information. I wanted to protect the identity of both my fellow server and the customer. I had no intention of starting a witch hunt or hurting anyone — I just wanted to share a picture I found interesting.” On Wednesday, the pastor reportedly contacted the Applebee’s location where she worked and demanded that everyone involved — including the managers — be fired. “When I posted this, I didn’t represent Applebee’s in a bad light,” Chelsea explained. “In fact, I didn’t represent them at all. I did my best to protect the identity of all parties involved. I didn’t break any specific guidelines in the company handbook — I checked.” “But because this person got embarrassed that their selfishness was made public, Applebee’s has made it clear that they would rather lose a dedicated employee than lose an angry customer. That’s a policy I can’t understand.” She added that she was “utterly baffled” about why someone would connect Christian tithing to tips that wait staff rely on tips to pay their bills. “I’ve been stiffed on tips before, but this is the first time I’ve seen the Big Man has been used as reasoning,” she said. “If this person wrote the note, obviously they wanted it seen by someone… It’s strange to me that now that the audience is wider than just the server, the person is now ashamed.”


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#2 Parrothead

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:20 AM

that pastor is a #### head.. she should have made a fool of him on the spot in front of everyone.. what an ### :thumbdown:
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:20 AM

that pastor is a #### head.. she should have made a fool of him on the spot in front of everyone.. what an ### :thumbdown:

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:20 AM

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:22 AM

Biggest Jerk? Pastor, easily. To use God as a reason to stiff someone who works off tips for a living is hardly worthy of someone who should represent that God and be someone who leads a community and serves as a role model. Second... not sure there is a second. The woman did something which could cause a national brand uncomfortable press, and she has to deal with those repercussions. Don't see any harm in what she did really, but she needs to accept responsibility as a representative (well, former) of that brand.Pastor's a total jerk though.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:22 AM

I've been keeping up with this story and I knew that the waitress would inevitably get fired. I voted the pastor though, because she:A. Wrote the insulting noteB. Called demanding the whole waitstaff be fired.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:22 AM

d. The "sleuths"

 

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:23 AM

I need to be able to vote for the pastor and Applebee's.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:23 AM

that pastor is a #### head.. she should have made a fool of him on the spot in front of everyone.. what an ### :thumbdown:

Pastor was a woman: http://www.thesmokin...ologizes-687234

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:25 AM

Mr. Pink is now a pastor?

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:26 AM

didnt he still technically pay the tip?
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:27 AM

She should have gone to Hooters instead.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:27 AM

Don't want people to read what you write? Don't ####### write it. I vote pastor and Applebees.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:27 AM


that pastor is a #### head.. she should have made a fool of him on the spot in front of everyone.. what an ### :thumbdown:

Pastor was a woman: http://www.thesmokin...ologizes-687234

ok, then she is also a #### head and ###
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:30 AM

The pastor, obviously. What a jerk. She is now complaining that she was shamed. Good. She deserved to be. The server, however, was not smart to post it online anywhere. Applebee's firing her was not surprising since most corporate places like that will fire anyone for anything, if they think it will cost them a customer, since they think they are all worth saving. They'd rather save a bad customer than lose one great employee.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:30 AM

Lou Ferrigno is the jerk.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:32 AM

Lou Ferrigno is the jerk.

That kind of jerk never gets any press.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:33 AM


that pastor is a #### head.. she should have made a fool of him on the spot in front of everyone.. what an ### :thumbdown:

Pastor was a woman: http://www.thesmokin...ologizes-687234

She's also...um...going to be lumped in with a certain group of people that have a reputation (at least that how some people feel) for not tipping.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:33 AM



that pastor is a #### head.. she should have made a fool of him on the spot in front of everyone.. what an ### :thumbdown:

Pastor was a woman: http://www.thesmokin...ologizes-687234

She's also...um...going to be lumped in with a certain group of people that have a reputation (at least that how some people feel) for not tipping.

There's a reason stereotypes exist.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:35 AM

On the receipt she posted, Applebee’s computer system had added an automatic 18 percent gratuity because the dinner party had eight or more people.

Not sure what Missurah laws are but here in California there is no such thing as an "automatic" gratuity. The restaurant and say "we add an 18% gratuity to parties over..." but the customer has every right to decline it.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:36 AM

I think I'm most offended by the silliness of the argument in the first place. OK, I'm a commie atheist, but putting all that aside, you tithe 10% of your income, which strikes me as somewhat more than 18% of your crappy lunch at Applebees. And what type of large party only runs up a bill of 34 bucks?

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:36 AM




that pastor is a #### head.. she should have made a fool of him on the spot in front of everyone.. what an ### :thumbdown:

Pastor was a woman: http://www.thesmokin...ologizes-687234

She's also...um...going to be lumped in with a certain group of people that have a reputation (at least that how some people feel) for not tipping.

There's a reason stereotypes exist.

I wonder if she drives a VW
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:37 AM

Obviously the pastor is the biggest jerk here.That said, posting the bill on Reddit with the signature intact was ill-advised to say the least, and I can't blame Applebees for firing the waitress.

 

 


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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:38 AM




that pastor is a #### head.. she should have made a fool of him on the spot in front of everyone.. what an ### :thumbdown:

Pastor was a woman: http://www.thesmokin...ologizes-687234

She's also...um...going to be lumped in with a certain group of people that have a reputation (at least that how some people feel) for not tipping.

There's a reason stereotypes exist.

care to list some?

 

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:40 AM

18 percent gratuity because the dinner party had eight or more people

How in the #### do you feed at least 8 people for $35? :confused:

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:40 AM

Pastor was undoubtedly a jerk.Server was unwise to post it with enough particulars it could be traced back to the individual. Mentioning it was from an Applebee's was a similarly unwise move since she is employed by them.I imagine the server's actions could open Applebee's up to a possible lawsuit from the pastor once her identity got out, which probably drove the firing. Which, again, is the server's own fault. I don't see a lot of room for blaming Applebee's. (Other than for the quality of their food, anyway. Though I'd have cheered them still if they'd kept the waitress on.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:40 AM

The server sounds pretty well spoken to be working at Applebee's.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:41 AM

There's a reason stereotypes exist.

care to list some?

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:41 AM

I served for a little over 7 years while in college (I changed majors a lot and did a year of co op). And I absolutely hated when other servers would get mad and complain about getting less than 15% tip. And I can not stand the "I rely on tips to pay the bills, therefor you should tip me" or even worse "I only make 2.13 an hour, I need your tips to pay the bills". I took the job knowing that I would only make 2.13 an hour and would then have to rely on my ability as a server to make up the rest. I generally made the most money on any given shift, because I embraced this, and realized that tips are not mandatory, so I actually worked to increase my tips. Most of the serving staff just walk around, refill a couple of drinks, mess up an order and wonder why they're making 10%. And I never "auto grat'd" a table, regardless of the party size. You make more if you don't, if you don't suck anyway. People get offended when they see 18% added onto their tab. Servers know the nature of the business, and it's a gamble that you'll make more than any other job you can have while in school or with little/no education. But they accept this willingly because more often then not, you make much more then the alternatives. But you still need to earn that tip. And if someone stiffs you, then in their mind you didn't earn it. And you absolutely can not complain about that. There were notorious "stiffers" at the Chili's I worked at. And everyone complained about them. I embraced them and did my best to make them feel like their 3-4 dollars given to me was money well spent. And for every time someone "stiffs" you, you make way more off your regulars that it completely offsets it and some. Unless you suck, then you spend all your time complaining about being stiffed rather then trying to figure out what you did wrong.That being said, the Pastor is the vote here. Not for stiffing her, but for trying to use God to justify it.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:42 AM





that pastor is a #### head.. she should have made a fool of him on the spot in front of everyone.. what an ### :thumbdown:

Pastor was a woman: http://www.thesmokin...ologizes-687234

She's also...um...going to be lumped in with a certain group of people that have a reputation (at least that how some people feel) for not tipping.

There's a reason stereotypes exist.

care to list some?

that would make a great thread - stereotypes by nationality, religion, and/or race..
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:43 AM

On the receipt she posted, Applebee’s computer system had added an automatic 18 percent gratuity because the dinner party had eight or more people.

That's not how I read it. I read it like the 18% tip thing is just a reminder to customers what 18% of the bill is (since 18% is the new 15%). In other words, it helps customers from having to figure it out on their own. It's like a suggested tip. I think if the 18% had already been applied, the total below would have reflected that already and read $41.22.

Edited by Ghost Rider, 31 January 2013 - 11:43 AM.


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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:43 AM




that pastor is a #### head.. she should have made a fool of him on the spot in front of everyone.. what an ### :thumbdown:

Pastor was a woman: http://www.thesmokin...ologizes-687234

She's also...um...going to be lumped in with a certain group of people that have a reputation (at least that how some people feel) for not tipping.

There's a reason stereotypes exist.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:44 AM





that pastor is a #### head.. she should have made a fool of him on the spot in front of everyone.. what an ### :thumbdown:

Pastor was a woman: http://www.thesmokin...ologizes-687234

She's also...um...going to be lumped in with a certain group of people that have a reputation (at least that how some people feel) for not tipping.

There's a reason stereotypes exist.

care to list some?

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:45 AM

On the receipt she posted, Applebee’s computer system had added an automatic 18 percent gratuity because the dinner party had eight or more people.

That's not how I read it. I read it like the 18% tip thing is just a reminder to customers what 18% of the bill is (since 18% is the new 15%). In other words, it helps customers from having to figure it out on their own. It's like a suggested tip. I think if the 18% had already been applied, the total below would have reflected that already and read $41.22.

At Chilis, it has "Suggested Tip" and then figures it in for you when you run your card. Then below that is "Tip Adjustment (+/-)" So if you don't want to pay the 18%, you have to add -$1, or whatever to bring it down to whatever you want to tip. If you leave that line blank, you will absolutely pay the 18%.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:45 AM

Obviously the pastor is the biggest jerk here.That said, posting the bill on Reddit with the signature intact was ill-advised to say the least, and I can't blame Applebees for firing the waitress.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:46 AM

I voted applebees without reading the article.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:47 AM

A waitress says she was fired from her job at Applebee’s after posting a note from a pastor who refused to tip, writing that “I give God 10% Why do you get 18.”

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:53 AM

Levels of jerkiness:pastor...waitress...........Applebee'sThe waitress wasn't posting it on reddit as a "lighthearted joke". She posted it because she was incredibly pissed off and wanted to get a bunch of like-minded people to prop up her ego.Applebee's should fire her for her stunt.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:53 AM

I think I'm most offended by the silliness of the argument in the first place. OK, I'm a commie atheist, but putting all that aside, you tithe 10% of your income, which strikes me as somewhat more than 18% of your crappy lunch at Applebees. And what type of large party only runs up a bill of 34 bucks?

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:53 AM

The pastor is not only a jerk, he is without a doubt sinning!"Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due." - Romans 4:4“Woe to him who builds his house by unrighteousness, and his upper rooms by injustice, who makes his neighbor serve him for nothing and does not give him his wages," - Jeremiah 22:13... "Behold, the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, are crying out against you, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts." - James 5:4"Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously." - 2nd Corinthians 9:6"Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows." - Galations 6:7

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:55 AM


I think I'm most offended by the silliness of the argument in the first place. OK, I'm a commie atheist, but putting all that aside, you tithe 10% of your income, which strikes me as somewhat more than 18% of your crappy lunch at Applebees. And what type of large party only runs up a bill of 34 bucks?

6 baskets of free bread?

Maybe 34 was only his portion of the party's bill.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:57 AM

I need to be able to vote for the pastor and Applebee's.

Agreed.Applebees should not be adding on a 18% tip.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:58 AM

Canadians. :thumbdown:

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:58 AM

I wonder if the bill for the last supper automaticly included the tip.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:59 AM

I need to be able to vote for the pastor and Applebee's.

Agreed.Applebees should not be adding on a 18% tip.

dude, everybody does that #### with larger parties of x or more.which is what I'm assuming the case is here, since somebody asked about feeding 8 people.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:59 AM

I need to be able to vote for the pastor and Applebee's.

Agreed.Applebees should not be adding on a 18% tip.

They didn't.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 12:01 PM


I think I'm most offended by the silliness of the argument in the first place. OK, I'm a commie atheist, but putting all that aside, you tithe 10% of your income, which strikes me as somewhat more than 18% of your crappy lunch at Applebees. And what type of large party only runs up a bill of 34 bucks?

6 baskets of free bread?

Water with lemon and then adding sugar packets?

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 12:02 PM

And what type of large party only runs up a bill of 34 bucks.

the kind with a cheapazz pastor who pockets the flock's $ for herself, crosses out the gratuity and puts a zero, while using her god as the reason to do so. This woman is one huge POS.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 12:03 PM

In the realm of jerkiness I find Applebees to be slightly more jerky than the pastor because while the pastor was jerky for wanting anyone fired - Applebees had the ability to employ reason and not make a rash decision...but chose not to do so. No way does the employee even register on the jerkiness scale.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 12:03 PM

I wonder if the bill for the last supper automaticly included the tip.

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