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***Official SUPER BOWL XLVIII Thread: Seahawks vs Broncos*** (1 Viewer)

Who becomes Super Bowl XLVIII Champions?

  • Seattle Seahawks

    Votes: 130 44.7%
  • Denver Broncos

    Votes: 161 55.3%

  • Total voters
    291

Deamon

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#1 seed from each conference battle it out in NYC. Offense vs Defense. Old vs Young QB. Peyton gets another crack at making his case for GOAT. Cooler Temps shouldn't necessarily favour one team over the other... but might give Seattle a small edge.

Should be a great game, expecting line to be a small Denver advantage. And go.

 
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Two states that legalized weed are in the super bowl.

Which one will catch on? The Weed bowl, or the Super Bong?

 
Sportsbook.com posted potential match ups earlier in the week. I believe it was SEA -1

 
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What's the line?
Read somewhere it's opening as a pickem. O/U at 47.5. Expecting Denver to be favoured by 1 or 2 by Monday.
That's insane. If it's a pick-em, the O/U should be way lower. No way these two teams trade points back and forth for a 24-24 pace. If it's close, it's gonna be low-scoring which favors Seattle's D. If it's a high-scoring game, then Peyton is slinging it and no way Russell Wilson keeps up. That looks like an exploitable line.

 
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What's the line?
Read somewhere it's opening as a pickem. O/U at 47.5. Expecting Denver to be favoured by 1 or 2 by Monday.
That's insane. If it's a pick-em, the O/U should be way lower. No way these two teams trade points back and forth for a 24-24 pace. If it's close, it's gonna be low-scoring which favors Seattle's D. If it's a high-scoring game, then Peyton is slinging it and no way Russell Wilson keeps up.
I dunno, maybe a tad high. I could see a 23-20 game similar to the hawks game today.

 
What's the line?
Read somewhere it's opening as a pickem. O/U at 47.5. Expecting Denver to be favoured by 1 or 2 by Monday.
That's insane. If it's a pick-em, the O/U should be way lower. No way these two teams trade points back and forth for a 24-24 pace. If it's close, it's gonna be low-scoring which favors Seattle's D. If it's a high-scoring game, then Peyton is slinging it and no way Russell Wilson keeps up. That looks like an exploitable line.
Another Vegas line is Seattle -1, O/U up to 48.5

 
Need a poll here, y'all.

I love Seattle's epochal pass defense against Denver's passing game in 18 degree weather. This is tailor made for the Hawks.

 
The only story people should talk about and the only story that people will actually care about and the only story that should be discussed for the next two weeks is:

Russell Wilson vs. Montee Ball

Everything else doesn't matter. Both young, upcoming stars in the NFL. This story may not get much play because it will be overshadowed by other bogus stuff but this is the only story people truly care about.

 
Should be great but I think Denver finds a way with all those weapons.
I would expect Welker to be the one who Manning goes to as Sherman will be on D. Thomas and Manning will ignore him and treat it as 10-on-10. If he gets Welker hurt with a pass across the middle, then it's anyone's game. Denver will have trouble with Wilson's scrambling.

 
Sherman doesn't get away with holding with Peyton slinging the rock. Was expecting SEA to open as a favorite and was hoping to pound the DEN ML.

:kicksrock:

 
I thought I heard Sherman stays on the same side. If that's the case, why wouldn't Denver line Caldwell up on Sherman's side in a 4WR set and exploit the mismatches elsewhere? I know it's not that easy, but I'd try to take advantage of Sherman only playing one side.

 
Seattle seems to matchup very well against Denver.
Offensively?
The defensive scoring rank of the recent Seahawks' schedule

49ers - #3 - 23 pts

Saints - #4 - 23 pts

Rams - #13 - 27 pts

Cardinals - #7 - 10 pts

Giants - #18 - 23 pts

49ers = #3 - 17 pts

Saints - #4 - 34 pts

Average - 22.43

5 of the last 7 games are against top 10 scoring defenses. Four against top 5 scoring defenses. They've been pretty respectable considering their level of competition. Denver is ranked #22 in scoring defense. The only teams with a worse defense than Denver the Seahawks have played this year are Jacksonville, Minnesota, Atlanta, and Houston. They scored 45, 41, 33, and 23 in those games. Even against a tough defensive schedule lately, they have held their own.

Most offenses are going to look bad playing the majority of a run against top 5 defenses. The Seahawks scored the 9th most points in football this year against a schedule full of good defenses with a team philosophy designed to shorten games and rely on their exceptional defense. In points per play, they ranked fifth. http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-play

Your shtick about the Seahawks not having enough offense to win the Bowl is tired. And it will be wrong regardless of the outcome of this game. The strength of the team is definitely the defense, but the offense is without question good enough to win.

I will note, however, that no team has ever won the Super Bowl allowing as many points as the Broncos. http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/worst-super-bowl-winning-defenses/5723/ who are at 24.9 per game this year. Do you think that Denver doesn't have enough defense to win the game? I don't. The last time Manning took a defense so bad no team that allowed more had ever won a Super Bowl to the game he won it. He could very well do the same.

At this point, both of these teams could win the game. They've both got enough offense. They've both got enough defense. Now flip a coin.

 
I thought I heard Sherman stays on the same side. If that's the case, why wouldn't Denver line Caldwell up on Sherman's side in a 4WR set and exploit the mismatches elsewhere? I know it's not that easy, but I'd try to take advantage of Sherman only playing one side.
Denver rarely plays 4 WR sets. Base offense is 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 RB. When they're not in that, they're usually playing 2 WRs, 2 TEs, 1 RB. I bet they spent more snaps this season in 3 TE sets than 4 WR sets. 4 WRs means you're either taking off Julius Thomas (which is a downgrade in the passing game), or else you're losing an RB (which is a bad thing in an offense that thrives on play action and the screen game).

I think Denver has enough weapons that they don't need to do anything crazy for Sherman. If Sherman lines up against DT all game, Peyton can easily just go elsewhere all day. Demaryius had 6 or fewer targets in 6 of Denver's 10 games this year. Toss him the occasional screen to see if Sherman is napping, and otherwise keep picking on whatever weakness presents itself elsewhere in the secondary.

 
Seattle seems to matchup very well against Denver.
Offensively?
The defensive scoring rank of the recent Seahawks' schedule

49ers - #3 - 23 pts

Saints - #4 - 23 pts

Rams - #13 - 27 pts

Cardinals - #7 - 10 pts

Giants - #18 - 23 pts

49ers = #3 - 17 pts

Saints - #4 - 34 pts

Average - 22.43

5 of the last 7 games are against top 10 scoring defenses. Four against top 5 scoring defenses. They've been pretty respectable considering their level of competition. Denver is ranked #22 in scoring defense. The only teams with a worse defense than Denver the Seahawks have played this year are Jacksonville, Minnesota, Atlanta, and Houston. They scored 45, 41, 33, and 23 in those games. Even against a tough defensive schedule lately, they have held their own.

Most offenses are going to look bad playing the majority of a run against top 5 defenses. The Seahawks scored the 9th most points in football this year against a schedule full of good defenses with a team philosophy designed to shorten games and rely on their exceptional defense. In points per play, they ranked fifth. http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-play

Your shtick about the Seahawks not having enough offense to win the Bowl is tired. And it will be wrong regardless of the outcome of this game. The strength of the team is definitely the defense, but the offense is without question good enough to win.

I will note, however, that no team has ever won the Super Bowl allowing as many points as the Broncos. http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/worst-super-bowl-winning-defenses/5723/ who are at 24.9 per game this year. Do you think that Denver doesn't have enough defense to win the game? I don't. The last time Manning took a defense so bad no team that allowed more had ever won a Super Bowl to the game he won it. He could very well do the same.

At this point, both of these teams could win the game. They've both got enough offense. They've both got enough defense. Now flip a coin.
What he said.

The size of the Seattle DB's will help as well IMO.

I want to see what the weather is supposed to be before giving a prediction.

 
Seattle seems to matchup very well against Denver.
Offensively?
Your shtick about the Seahawks not having enough offense to win the Bowl is tired. And it will be wrong regardless of the outcome of this game. The strength of the team is definitely the defense, but the offense is without question good enough to win.
And how exactly can you proclaim this? If they lose, are you saying it will be on the Defense? I'd think it would squarely fall on the offense's inability to score points. Can they win, yes. I just don't see them scoring enough. But, if they do win, I'll be here to congratulate the team and their fans.

 
Seattle seems to matchup very well against Denver.
Offensively?
Your shtick about the Seahawks not having enough offense to win the Bowl is tired. And it will be wrong regardless of the outcome of this game. The strength of the team is definitely the defense, but the offense is without question good enough to win.
And how exactly can you proclaim this? If they lose, are you saying it will be on the Defense? I'd think it would squarely fall on the offense's inability to score points. Can they win, yes. I just don't see them scoring enough. But, if they do win, I'll be here to congratulate the team and their fans.
Because one event is fairly random, and the outcome of this game is probably a coin flip. If you've got a 50% chance to do something, it seems pretty dumb to say you don't have enough of anything to get it done. Clearly they have enough of everything to get it done. Just like the Broncos. That doesn't, however, mean that they will win.

 
Interesting. Denver played the weakest schedule in the league by a good bit.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000137115/article/teambyteam-strength-of-schedule-for-2013
So what do 2012 records have to do with 2013 SOS?
Absolutely nothing. Should have looked at the date a little more carefully on that.
two weeks to go and we are already grasping at straws
If you could find the data for the regular season I'd love to see it. I like info. Or, you could just be a #### because of a mistake I made. Your call.

 
Denver's O averaged 11.8 more PPG than Seattle on the year.

Seattle's D gave up and average of 10.5 less PPG than Denver this year.

Truly an epic battle of strength on strength.

 
Should be a fun game watching the matchup of the Manning vs. that D.

He needs to be great as Wilson seems to be able to do just enough to win.

 
Should be a fun game watching the matchup of the Manning vs. that D.

He needs to be great as Wilson seems to be able to do just enough to win.
I honestly think it depends on if Denver can get to a 10+ point lead. If so, then I don't see Seattle coming back. However, if they keep it close then it is a FG game.

Gonna be a good one.

 

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