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Eric Holder To Step Down As Attorney General (1 Viewer)

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Eric Holder To Step Down As Attorney General




by Carrie Johnson
September 25, 201410:40 AM ET


Eric Holder Jr., the nation's first black U.S. attorney general, is preparing to announce his resignation Thursday after a tumultuous tenure marked by civil rights advances, national security threats, reforms to the criminal justice system and five and a half years of fights with Republicans in Congress.

Two sources familiar with the decision tell NPR that Holder, 63, intends to leave the Justice Department as soon as his successor is confirmed, a process that could run through 2014 and even into next year. A former U.S. government official says Holder has been increasingly "adamant" about his desire to leave soon for fear he otherwise could be locked in to stay for much of the rest of President Obama's second term.

Holder already is one of the longest serving members of the Obama cabinet and ranks as the fourth longest tenured AG in history. Hundreds of employees waited in lines, stacked three rows deep, for his return in early February 2009 to the Justice Department, where he previously worked as a young corruption prosecutor and as deputy attorney general — the second in command — during the Clinton administration.

But some of that early glow faded in part due to the politicized nature of the job and in part because of Holder's own rhetoric, such as a 2009 Black History Month speech where he said the country was "a nation of cowards" when it comes to discussions about racial tension.

Five years later, violence erupted between police and protesters in Ferguson, Mo., after a white policeman killed an unarmed black 18 year old. And this time, the White House dispatched Holder to speak his piece, in effect jump starting that conversation, and helping to settle nerves in the frayed community.

Another huge controversy — over his decision to try the 9-11 plotters in a New York courthouse in the shadow of the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center — prompted venomous reaction from lawmakers, New York City officials and some victim families.

Under pressure that threatened his job and his legacy, the attorney general reversed his decision and instead sent the cases to military court — where they continue to languish even as Osama Bin Laden's son-in-law and other terrorism defendants are serving life sentences in maximum security prisons on American soil.

Holder most wants to be remembered for his record on civil rights: refusing to defend a law that defined marriage as between one man and one woman; suing North Carolina and Texas over voting restrictions that disproportionately affect minorities and the elderly; launching 20 investigations of abuses by local police departments; and using his bully pulpit to lobby Congress to reduce prison sentences for non-violent drug crimes. Many of those sentences disproportionately hurt minority communities.

And then, there's his relationship with Congress. From the day Holder's nomination was announced, Republicans led by Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., signaled he would be a political lightning rod.

The attorney general's portfolio, which spans sensitive law enforcement cases and hot button social issues including marijuana and gay marriage, didn't help. But even longtime aides say Holder didn't do enough to help himself by shrugging off preparations and moot sessions before congressional appearances and speaking off the cuff — and obliquely.

Things hit a crisis point when the GOP-led House voted him in contempt for refusing to hand over documents about a gun trafficking scandal known as Fast and Furious. That represented the first time an attorney general had ever been rebuked that way but still Holder held onto his job.

In the end, the decision to leave was Holder's alone — the two sources tell NPR the White House would have been happy to have him stay a full eight years and to avoid what could be a contentious nomination fight for his successor. Holder and President Obama discussed his departure several times and finalized things in a long meeting over Labor Day weekend at the White House.

The attorney general told staff the news at DOJ this morning and has called civil rights icon Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., and Ethel Kennedy, the widow of former AG Robert F. Kennedy.

The sources say a leading candidate for that job is Solicitor General Don Verrilli, the administration's top representative to the Supreme Court and a lawyer whose judgment and discretion are prized in both DOJ and the White House.

Friends and former colleagues say Holder's made no decisions about his next professional perch, but they say it would be no surprise if he returned to the law firm Covington & Burling, where he spent years representing corporate clients.

The friends say Holder is also considering donating his papers to a university in D.C. or his native New York, where he could establish a civil rights center to work more on law enforcement interactions with communities of color and host public forums on those issues.

Even though the attorney general has his eyes on the door, the two sources say several more policy and enforcement initiatives are underway and could be announced soon.

For instance, Holder sent a memo to U.S. Attorneys Wednesday urging them not to use sentencing enhancements known as "851" tools to gain leverage in plea negotiations with defendants — in essence, threatening defendants into avoiding trial with huge amounts of prison time. The practice has been criticized by U.S. District Judge John Gleeson in Brooklyn, as well as other jurists.

Holder is also expected to notify federal prosecutors in coming days that the Justice Department will no longer require defendants who plead guilty to waive their rights to appeal based on ineffective lawyering. Many U.S. Attorneys now forgo that practice, but not all.

Long awaited racial profiling guidelines for federal agents will be released soon, too. Those guidelines will make clear sexual orientation, ethnicity and religion are not legitimate bases for law enforcement suspicion but controversial mapping of certain communities — including Muslim-American ones — would still be allowed for national security investigations, one of the sources said.

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I'm kind of sad about this. I'm not especially a fan,but the crap this guy got from conservatives for 5 years is just repugnant to me.

 
Seriously, most of the harshest criticism of Holder was over so-called scandals like Fast and Furious which turned out to be non stories in the long run.

 
Reasons Why Holder Should Be Impeached

Rabbit 62 DontMessWithAmerica • a year ago

my dream is that they never make it to the courthouse, but their reign ends with a lynching noose or a bullet. but im probably never going to see my dreams come to fruition with the current way things are run with liberal media and how the country is swinging over to the left.

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To have any credibility in the job, his successor's first act in office should be to have Holder arrested & charged. Anything less than that is a signal that the next puppet is just as big a criminally corrupt stooge as the man himself.
see this is exactly what in talking about. Please list the specific crime that Holder should be charged with.
 
To have any credibility in the job, his successor's first act in office should be to have Holder arrested & charged. Anything less than that is a signal that the next puppet is just as big a criminally corrupt stooge as the man himself.
see this is exactly what in talking about. Please list the specific crime that Holder should be charged with.
Bump. Still waiting for those who laughed at my earlier comments to explain what crime Eric Holder has committed. Or even to explain what, from a non-ideological perspective, makes him a poor attorney general. The fact that you don't agree with his politics has no bearing.

 
To have any credibility in the job, his successor's first act in office should be to have Holder arrested & charged. Anything less than that is a signal that the next puppet is just as big a criminally corrupt stooge as the man himself.
see this is exactly what in talking about. Please list the specific crime that Holder should be charged with.
Bump. Still waiting for those who laughed at my earlier comments to explain what crime Eric Holder has committed. Or even to explain what, from a non-ideological perspective, makes him a poor attorney general. The fact that you don't agree with his politics has no bearing.
What made him a good AG? Outside of shaking down some companies for huge out of court settlements, did he really accomplish anything?

Edit: I'm not trying to be a smart-a$$, I just can't think of any positive contributions to the country as a whole.

 
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To have any credibility in the job, his successor's first act in office should be to have Holder arrested & charged. Anything less than that is a signal that the next puppet is just as big a criminally corrupt stooge as the man himself.
see this is exactly what in talking about. Please list the specific crime that Holder should be charged with.
Bump. Still waiting for those who laughed at my earlier comments to explain what crime Eric Holder has committed. Or even to explain what, from a non-ideological perspective, makes him a poor attorney general. The fact that you don't agree with his politics has no bearing.
For one thing, I don't think an AG should perform his duties through race colored glasses. Second, his actions and precedents those actions have set, much like those of the last few Presidents, have a lot to do with how dysfunctional our government has become. You, of all people, complain about that second point a lot. Well, then you should assign some responsibility to those who have helped create that environment.

 
The guy is a puppet, a fraud, and so liberal it's frightening. Glad he's leaving. Worthless.
he's certainly liberal- how much I'm not sure. I don't see how that pertains to his performance. What makes him a puppet and a fraud ?
I'd say the fact that he has financial ties to banks that are being prosecuted for misconduct at an all time low over the last 20 years seems bordering on fraud to me. I don't know about a puppet, but how the guy lasted after the ATF Fast and Furious gun walking fiasco is mind-blowing. I can't think of a single positive related to his time as AG.

 
I'm kind of sad about this. I'm not especially a fan,but the crap this guy got from conservatives for 5 years is just repugnant to me.
He was unquestionably the worst appointment Obama had. If there was anything Obama deserved criticism for, it was appointing this jackal. But keep the kneepads on.

 
To have any credibility in the job, his successor's first act in office should be to have Holder arrested & charged. Anything less than that is a signal that the next puppet is just as big a criminally corrupt stooge as the man himself.
see this is exactly what in talking about. Please list the specific crime that Holder should be charged with.
Bump. Still waiting for those who laughed at my earlier comments to explain what crime Eric Holder has committed. Or even to explain what, from a non-ideological perspective, makes him a poor attorney general. The fact that you don't agree with his politics has no bearing.
I never accused him of any crime, but he was absolutely an incompetent twit. He mishandled everything from Gitmo to fast-n-furious.

 
OK so if I understand this correctly:

1. Nobody can state (or at least is willing to state) why he should be charged with a crime. Now in truth, only one poster here made that charge- Walking Boot. However, there seems to be a significant number of conservatives who throw this around all the time. I've yet to find any reason given for it.

2. Larry Allen doesn't like Holder's ties to some banks being prosecuted. Not sure who he's referring to so I can't comment. I didn't like **** Cheney's ties to Haliburton, but that in no way indicated my overall opinion of him as vice-President.

3. Fast and Furious got mentioned- it always does. I have stated before that I think this is a non-story.

4. Every other response was very general: "I can't think of one good thing he's done"- etc. That would work as a criticism of the President, but we should review the attorney general in a different way: does he uphold the law? If you don't believe he does, then be specific- at least Fast and Furious represents a specific complaint. But the speeches and political stances that Holder makes really has nothing to do with how he does his job. For instance, one of our most competent attorneys general in the last century was Ramsey Clark, and he was an out and out radical progressive, bordering on Communist, and made all sorts of absurd and incendiary statements. But during his term, he upheld the law. That's all we ask them to do. Now I don't know how great a job Holder has done at this. But conservatives are making out that he's been terrible without any real details, and I think it's all partisan and repugnant.

 
I'm kind of sad about this. I'm not especially a fan,but the crap this guy got from conservatives for 5 years is just repugnant to me.
You can't be serious.

Didn't he say that if anyone disagrees with Obama's policies, that they are racists?

That's cool to you?
No it isn't, if indeed he said it. Although it really has no bearing on his performance one way or the other. But do you have a link?

 
I'm kind of sad about this. I'm not especially a fan,but the crap this guy got from conservatives for 5 years is just repugnant to me.
You can't be serious.

Didn't he say that if anyone disagrees with Obama's policies, that they are racists?

That's cool to you?
Actually what he said was:

There’s a certain level of vehemence, it seems to me, that’s directed at me [and] directed at the president,” Holder said, according to The Hill. “You know, people talking about taking their country back. … There’s a certain racial component to this for some people. I don’t think this is the thing that is a main driver, but for some there’s a racial animus.”
And to be honest that sure seems right to me. Awful lot of racist language and dog whistles used by people who oppose Obama. Take our country back? To what exactly?

 
I'm kind of sad about this. I'm not especially a fan,but the crap this guy got from conservatives for 5 years is just repugnant to me.
You can't be serious. Didn't he say that if anyone disagrees with Obama's policies, that they are racists?

That's cool to you?
Actually what he said was:

Theres a certain level of vehemence, it seems to me, thats directed at me [and] directed at the president, Holder said, according to The Hill. You know, people talking about taking their country back. Theres a certain racial component to this for some people. I dont think this is the thing that is a main driver, but for some theres a racial animus.
And to be honest that sure seems right to me. Awful lot of racist language and dog whistles used by people who oppose Obama. Take our country back? To what exactly?
Better prosperity?
 
I'm kind of sad about this. I'm not especially a fan,but the crap this guy got from conservatives for 5 years is just repugnant to me.
You can't be serious. Didn't he say that if anyone disagrees with Obama's policies, that they are racists?

That's cool to you?
Actually what he said was:

Theres a certain level of vehemence, it seems to me, thats directed at me [and] directed at the president, Holder said, according to The Hill. You know, people talking about taking their country back. Theres a certain racial component to this for some people. I dont think this is the thing that is a main driver, but for some theres a racial animus.
And to be honest that sure seems right to me. Awful lot of racist language and dog whistles used by people who oppose Obama. Take our country back? To what exactly?
Better prosperity?
Take our country back is pretty race neutral when talking about politics. Unless of course, you're looking for it to be.
 
OK so if I understand this correctly:

1. Nobody can state (or at least is willing to state) why he should be charged with a crime. Now in truth, only one poster here made that charge- Walking Boot. However, there seems to be a significant number of conservatives who throw this around all the time. I've yet to find any reason given for it.
he was held in contempt of congress. and pardoned by his buddy Obama. He's a scumbag.

his handling of the Black Panthers voter intimidation case alone makes him an corrupt criminal AG alone, not even going to mention his role in Fast & Furious, the IRS scandal cover up (ongoing by the way), surveillance of the AP, going after James Rosen (journalist).

 
I'm kind of sad about this. I'm not especially a fan,but the crap this guy got from conservatives for 5 years is just repugnant to me.
You can't be serious.

Didn't he say that if anyone disagrees with Obama's policies, that they are racists?

That's cool to you?
Actually what he said was:

There’s a certain level of vehemence, it seems to me, that’s directed at me [and] directed at the president,” Holder said, according to The Hill. “You know, people talking about taking their country back. … There’s a certain racial component to this for some people. I don’t think this is the thing that is a main driver, but for some there’s a racial animus.”
And to be honest that sure seems right to me. Awful lot of racist language and dog whistles used by people who oppose Obama. Take our country back? To what exactly?
I don't think take our country back is race neutral. Like NC says, it's a dog whistle.
only if you think purely in terms of race all the time, like most liberals. You have to keep everyone in their certain classes if you're a liberal, so everyone gets shoved into a 'race' so you can now divide, inflame, and inspire them to keep voting DEM! yea team blue!

if you're a conservative, you just think about the whole country, and don't really give a #### what color you are, or what class you belong to. That really angers liberals that like to divide everyone up into neat little victim groups so they can buy their votes.

 
In her speech at the Democratic National Committee's Winter Meeting last Friday, Senator Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) stressed taking control of the country back from the Bush administration and changing the direction in which it has been heading for the last six years. Those efforts, Clinton said, must begin now with the Democratic majorities in Congress and extend through the 2008 election.

"When I am president, working with a Democratic Congress," she said, "we will really take our country back and put it on the right track again."
2007

 
To have any credibility in the job, his successor's first act in office should be to have Holder arrested & charged. Anything less than that is a signal that the next puppet is just as big a criminally corrupt stooge as the man himself.
see this is exactly what in talking about. Please list the specific crime that Holder should be charged with.
Bump. Still waiting for those who laughed at my earlier comments to explain what crime Eric Holder has committed. Or even to explain what, from a non-ideological perspective, makes him a poor attorney general. The fact that you don't agree with his politics has no bearing.
That was not the comment they were laughing at. You always throw out terrible strawman arguements.

 
OK so if I understand this correctly:

1. Nobody can state (or at least is willing to state) why he should be charged with a crime. Now in truth, only one poster here made that charge- Walking Boot. However, there seems to be a significant number of conservatives who throw this around all the time. I've yet to find any reason given for it.

2. Larry Allen doesn't like Holder's ties to some banks being prosecuted. Not sure who he's referring to so I can't comment. I didn't like **** Cheney's ties to Haliburton, but that in no way indicated my overall opinion of him as vice-President.

3. Fast and Furious got mentioned- it always does. I have stated before that I think this is a non-story.

4. Every other response was very general: "I can't think of one good thing he's done"- etc. That would work as a criticism of the President, but we should review the attorney general in a different way: does he uphold the law? If you don't believe he does, then be specific- at least Fast and Furious represents a specific complaint. But the speeches and political stances that Holder makes really has nothing to do with how he does his job. For instance, one of our most competent attorneys general in the last century was Ramsey Clark, and he was an out and out radical progressive, bordering on Communist, and made all sorts of absurd and incendiary statements. But during his term, he upheld the law. That's all we ask them to do. Now I don't know how great a job Holder has done at this. But conservatives are making out that he's been terrible without any real details, and I think it's all partisan and repugnant.
You aren't even actually reading the thread, are you?

 
Ignore timschochet. It's doing a bit of trolling in its own weird way.

I'm addressing this in a non-partisan manner -- I'm just wondering what's coming down the pike that even Holder can't withstand it.

Maybe nothing. But where the heck is tdoss's avatar?

 

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