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Ronnie Hillman, Denver 1/3 STARTING RB (2 Viewers)

Dondante said:
GDogg said:
4th&inches said:
TartanLion said:
This is a bit AC, but who are people dropping Anderson for ? I'm in a mess at RB ( Tate, Bradshaw, Crowell, Hill, Spiller, Matthews ) plus have Gordon on my bench. Looking at that list, Spiller is somehow the one I'm considering because at least Anderson has the chance to become Denver's top RB for a good while. Non return yards and non PPR has rendered Spiller almost useless.

So yeah, what kind of players are people letting go for Anderson ?
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I'm debating dropping either CJ0K or DMC for Anderson...but my RB's are a mess with AD out & Woodhead injured
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I'm considering dropping Chris Johnson also or Isaiah Crowell for Anderson.
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I can see dropping Chris Johnson, but Crowell?
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Bird in the hand thought? I have Tate and Crowell doesn't have much value unless Tate gets injured (which is a big possibility), based on the distribution of carries on Sunday. Anderson might already be the primary ball carrier with Ball out for all I know. If so, he's more valuable than Crowell.

I'm 6th on the waiver order, so if Anderson ends up seeing the bulk of the work this weekend, I will not be able to get him. And, there's a possibility Crowell languishes on the wire unless and until there's a Tate injury. I think Johnson probably gets picked up quickly just on name value.

 
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GDogg said:
Dondante said:
GDogg said:
4th&inches said:
TartanLion said:
This is a bit AC, but who are people dropping Anderson for ? I'm in a mess at RB ( Tate, Bradshaw, Crowell, Hill, Spiller, Matthews ) plus have Gordon on my bench. Looking at that list, Spiller is somehow the one I'm considering because at least Anderson has the chance to become Denver's top RB for a good while. Non return yards and non PPR has rendered Spiller almost useless.

So yeah, what kind of players are people letting go for Anderson ?
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I'm debating dropping either CJ0K or DMC for Anderson...but my RB's are a mess with AD out & Woodhead injured
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I'm considering dropping Chris Johnson also or Isaiah Crowell for Anderson.
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I can see dropping Chris Johnson, but Crowell?
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Bird in the hand thought? I have Tate and Crowell doesn't have much value unless Tate gets injured (which is a big possibility), based on the distribution of carries on Sunday. Anderson might already be the primary ball carrier with Ball out for all I know. If so, he's more valuable than Crowell.

I'm 6th on the waiver order, so if Anderson ends up seeing the bulk of the work this weekend, I will not be able to get him. And, there's a possibility Crowell languishes on the wire unless and until there's a Tate injury. I think Johnson probably gets picked up quickly just on name value.
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Yeah, but wouldn't you want Johnson to get picked up? He's next to valueless at this point. At least with Crowell you have the possibility of value if/when he plays. It's your team I just see that one as very much cut-and-dry.

 
Dondante said:
GDogg said:
Dondante said:
GDogg said:
4th&inches said:
TartanLion said:
This is a bit AC, but who are people dropping Anderson for ? I'm in a mess at RB ( Tate, Bradshaw, Crowell, Hill, Spiller, Matthews ) plus have Gordon on my bench. Looking at that list, Spiller is somehow the one I'm considering because at least Anderson has the chance to become Denver's top RB for a good while. Non return yards and non PPR has rendered Spiller almost useless.

So yeah, what kind of players are people letting go for Anderson ?
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I'm debating dropping either CJ0K or DMC for Anderson...but my RB's are a mess with AD out & Woodhead injured
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I'm considering dropping Chris Johnson also or Isaiah Crowell for Anderson.
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I can see dropping Chris Johnson, but Crowell?
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Bird in the hand thought? I have Tate and Crowell doesn't have much value unless Tate gets injured (which is a big possibility), based on the distribution of carries on Sunday. Anderson might already be the primary ball carrier with Ball out for all I know. If so, he's more valuable than Crowell.

I'm 6th on the waiver order, so if Anderson ends up seeing the bulk of the work this weekend, I will not be able to get him. And, there's a possibility Crowell languishes on the wire unless and until there's a Tate injury. I think Johnson probably gets picked up quickly just on name value.
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Yeah, but wouldn't you want Johnson to get picked up? He's next to valueless at this point. At least with Crowell you have the possibility of value if/when he plays. It's your team I just see that one as very much cut-and-dry.
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I'm not sure, to be honest. And, if I was sold one way or the other, I'd have already made the move. I suppose I'm weighing the known (Johnson is the primary if/when Ivory is injured and Crowell sees a lot of work if/when Tate is injured) versus the unknown (is Anderson going to be the primary ball carrier and for how long?).

I'm still working through whether I think Anderson with his unknown role is worth more right now than Johnson/Crowell as backups. Obviously, if he actually is the primary ball carrier, the answer is a yes.

 
wdcrob said:
A 100 year old Willis McGahee and Knowshon Moreno looked OK in that offense and the highest scoring team in the NFL isn't typically a black hole for anyone that gets touches. Someone should have a fair bit of value.
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That's the reason Ball was a high draft pick in most fantasy drafts. Sadly past results don't guarantee future returns and this season has been a huge disappointment for Ball owners.

Maybe that changes with Hillman or Anderson but with everything that has happened so far and the teams they are facing over the next few weeks it is difficult to start either Denver back (particularly since we have no idea who will get the majority of touches).

 
Shawn said:
Chaka said:
PhantomJB said:
Chaka said:
PhantomJB said:
Chaka said:
Wanted Hillman, ended up with Anderson but realistically I don't see starting either one of them over the next three games.

Jets, Niners & Chargers just doesn't seem like a dream matchup for any Broncos RB.
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The Cardinals were also thought to be a pretty stout defense until last week when the Broncos hung nearly 600 yards on them.
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Remind me how the Denver RBs did in that game.
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Remind me how Branden Oliver did against the Jets.
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Quite well actually but last I checked the Jets aren't playing the Chargers in San Diego this week.

The bottom line is that the Denver RBs have been a disappointment pretty much all season, I am not sure why we suddenly should expect them to change course and turn out some fantasy monsters at the position, particularly against several stout defenses. As the Franklin Mint likes to point out, past returns do not guarantee future results.

And not to make excuses for the Jets, because they got flat out beat last week (and there is no shame in losing to the Chargers) but it was 110 degrees on the field during that game, they got down early and they wilted. I am not sure it is reasonable to expect that to be a trend.
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It will be an early season trend... Look at what happened to the Seahawks when it was 115* there (im talking about teams wilting in the heat, not the Jets specifically)
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Seattle, Jets, Pats @ Miami (although the Pats do look like a much lesser team then expected).

 
Chaka said:
wdcrob said:
A 100 year old Willis McGahee and Knowshon Moreno looked OK in that offense and the highest scoring team in the NFL isn't typically a black hole for anyone that gets touches. Someone should have a fair bit of value.
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That's the reason Ball was a high draft pick in most fantasy drafts. Sadly past results don't guarantee future returns and this season has been a huge disappointment for Ball owners.

Maybe that changes with Hillman or Anderson but with everything that has happened so far and the teams they are facing over the next few weeks it is difficult to start either Denver back (particularly since we have no idea who will get the majority of touches).
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It's not difficult if you've always had major doubts about Ball. Provided one of them is named the lead back they'll be in every lineup I can start him.

 
Broncos QB Peyton Manning made it clear that Ronnie Hillman will step in as the lead back with Montee Ball out. "We're counting on him," Manning said.

 
SameSongNDance said:
Dondante said:
SameSongNDance said:
Broncos QB Peyton Manning made it clear that Ronnie Hillman will step in as the lead back with Montee Ball out. "We're counting on him," Manning said.
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Where is this from?
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Bunch of DEN beat writers and sites reporting it.
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http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/players/updates/1701008

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Broncos QB Peyton Manning: Time for Ronnie Hillman to step up by Marty Gitlin | CBSSports.com


[SIZE=.8em](3:55 pm ET)[/SIZE] Broncos star quarteback Peyton Manning has put the onus of responsibility on teammate and running back Ronnie Hillman.Hillman appears destined to serve as the featured back Sunday against the host Jets in the wake of an injury that has knocked out Montee Ball.

"When you're running out there in pregame warmups as a starter it's a different helmet you wear," Manning told the Denver Post. "So we're counting on hm."

Hillman performed well after replacing Ball in Week 5. He rushed for 64 yards on 15 carries.


 
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Jeff Legwold‏@Jeff_Legwold23 mins23 minutes ago

Peyton Manning on Ronnie Hillman: "This is a great opportunity for Ronnie ...We're counting on him.''



Mike Klis‏@MikeKlis21 mins21 minutes ago

Peyton Manning on new starting RB Ronnie Hillman: "Ronnie has played at different times in different amounts. But when you're starting back

Mike Klis‏@MikeKlis21 mins21 minutes ago

Manning on Hillman:"when you're running out there in pregame warmups as starter it's a different helmet you wear. So we're counting on him."

Jeff Legwold‏@Jeff_Legwold7 mins7 minutes ago

One more Manning on Hillman: "It’s our job to get him in space. At the same time we’re counting on him to handle all parts of playing RB.''

 
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On that news I grabbed Hillman in a league where both were still available, so that gives me Anderson in one and Hillman in another.

I do not plan to start either one this week...or probably any other week. But time will tell!

Oh yeah, I dropped Pierre Thomas for him. I'm loaded up on mediocre RB's in this league (Morris, Bradshaw, FJax, Ingram, Martin, and now Hillman)

 
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To me, that last tweet is most interesting... "It's our job to get him in space." Denver isn't stupid - Hillman isn't a between-the-tackles guy.

I'm going down with the ship on Anderson. We've seen this before with Hillman. We've seen the team talk him up to no end the last time their starter went down... and what happened?

 
Now = Peyton counting on Hillman to step up

After Hillman Fumbles Peyton be like "Omaha, Omaha, Bring in CJ, Bring in CJ"

 
Yeah, that's quote sounds like an endorsement but I'd love to see the context. It wouldn't surprise me if it's misinformation too. I own both CJ and Ronnie and I'm not starting either. I'm trotting out Lesean McCoy....yay!

 
they can pump him up all they want but it will come down to what happens on the field. Hillman certainly has the pregame advantage but things can change quickly.

 
ESPN reports the Broncos will start Knowshon Moreno at running back against the Chiefs.
Ronnie Hillman was expected to lead the Broncos' three-man committee all week long, but they simply don't trust their third-round rookie in pass protection. It makes for a hot mess of a fantasy situation, and one that should be avoided if at all possible. Hillman could still end up leading the Broncos backfield in touches, but based on what we know now, he simply can't be trusted over Moreno. Both Moreno and Hillman are extremely shaky flex options, and should be benched if you have any sort of an alternative. Plodding passing-down specialist Lance Ball is well off the radar.
Related: Lance Ball, Knowshon Moreno
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Sun, Nov 25, 2012 12:20:00 PM
The Associated Press expects the Broncos to "watch" Ronnie Hillman's workload "closely." At just 5'9/200, Hillman certainly isn't built to run between the tackles like Willis McGahee was. He excels at bursting through a hole, bouncing runs to the outside and using his long speed to make plays. Hillman will start against the Chiefs this week and figures to push for 15-plus touches, but don't be surprised to see Lance Ball and Knowshon Moreno mixed in.
Source: Associated Press
Thu, Nov 22, 2012 08:25:00 AM
The Denver Post expects Ronnie Hillman to "get the first call" in Sunday's game against the Chiefs. Hillman has been listed as Willis McGahee's (knee) top backup for weeks now. He's earned the job with explosive outside running ability and by showing well in pass protection. "(Hillman) has improved quite a bit," coach John Fox said Monday. "He's got excellent vision. He's got excellent burst through the hole." The third-round rookie also hasn't lost a fumble all year. We're expecting Hillman to push for 15-18 touches as part of a committee with Lance Ball Sunday.
Source: Denver Post
Tue, Nov 20, 2012 09:15:00 AM

The Broncos are expected to use Ronnie Hillman and Lance Ball in a tandem attack if Willis McGahee (knee) sits out Week 12 at the Chiefs.
The Bengals rushed for a season-high 189 yards at Kansas City, so it's a good matchup. Hillman took over as the lead back once McGahee left Sunday, but managed just 28 yards on 11 carries (2.5 YPC) in the role. The slightly built rookie has struggled to run between the tackles. For fantasy purposes, however, Hillman is the recommended pickup this week over passing-down specialist Ball. McGahee is going for an MRI on Monday.
Related: Lance Ball
Source: Denver Post
Mon, Nov 19, 2012 02:55:00 AM


 
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Kool-Aid Larry said:
ESPN reports the Broncos will start Knowshon Moreno at running back against the Chiefs.
Ronnie Hillman was expected to lead the Broncos' three-man committee all week long, but they simply don't trust their third-round rookie in pass protection. It makes for a hot mess of a fantasy situation, and one that should be avoided if at all possible. Hillman could still end up leading the Broncos backfield in touches, but based on what we know now, he simply can't be trusted over Moreno. Both Moreno and Hillman are extremely shaky flex options, and should be benched if you have any sort of an alternative. Plodding passing-down specialist Lance Ball is well off the radar.
Related: Lance Ball, Knowshon Moreno
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Sun, Nov 25, 2012 12:20:00 PM
The Associated Press expects the Broncos to "watch" Ronnie Hillman's workload "closely." At just 5'9/200, Hillman certainly isn't built to run between the tackles like Willis McGahee was. He excels at bursting through a hole, bouncing runs to the outside and using his long speed to make plays. Hillman will start against the Chiefs this week and figures to push for 15-plus touches, but don't be surprised to see Lance Ball and Knowshon Moreno mixed in.
Source: Associated Press
Thu, Nov 22, 2012 08:25:00 AM
The Denver Post expects Ronnie Hillman to "get the first call" in Sunday's game against the Chiefs. Hillman has been listed as Willis McGahee's (knee) top backup for weeks now. He's earned the job with explosive outside running ability and by showing well in pass protection. "(Hillman) has improved quite a bit," coach John Fox said Monday. "He's got excellent vision. He's got excellent burst through the hole." The third-round rookie also hasn't lost a fumble all year. We're expecting Hillman to push for 15-18 touches as part of a committee with Lance Ball Sunday.
Source: Denver Post
Tue, Nov 20, 2012 09:15:00 AM

The Broncos are expected to use Ronnie Hillman and Lance Ball in a tandem attack if Willis McGahee (knee) sits out Week 12 at the Chiefs.
The Bengals rushed for a season-high 189 yards at Kansas City, so it's a good matchup. Hillman took over as the lead back once McGahee left Sunday, but managed just 28 yards on 11 carries (2.5 YPC) in the role. The slightly built rookie has struggled to run between the tackles. For fantasy purposes, however, Hillman is the recommended pickup this week over passing-down specialist Ball. McGahee is going for an MRI on Monday.
Related: Lance Ball
Source: Denver Post
Mon, Nov 19, 2012 02:55:00 AM
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haha....back to the future....they are saying the right things now but it comes down to production...a missed block, fumble, 8 yards for 8 carries and we're back at ground zero.

 
Banger said:
Leonidas said:
southeastjerome said:
How much are people seeing CJ and/or Hillman go for in FAAB that may have already ran?
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League one

$0 on for Anderson, 10% Hillman

Leaguetwo

$0 on both
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huh? 8 team leagues? how weren't they picked up? Anderson was rostered in one of my 3 leagues and both were picked up in waivers / free agency this week in all my leagues.
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12 team standard.

And let's get some definitions correct...you said "free agency" is one way they were picked up in your leagues. Picked up as a Free Agent = $0 bid, just like I listed, does it not? They were picked up as FREE agents in both of those leagues as well...but the 10% on Hillman in the one league was the only FAAB expenditure.

People aren't terribly excited about the situation I guess. DEN has not run the ball well, Ball may not be out for all that long (it's sounding longer now than it was yesterday maybe?), and nobody knows how their usage will turn out.

Different leagues have different people who value players different. Keyword, different. For example, people kept talking about Andre Williams as a big waiver target this week, to which I was like...lolwhat? He was owned in all 5 of my 12 team competitive leagues before last week, and I can't imagine why he wouldn't have been in any half competitive 12 team league. Yet a bunch of people in the SP were putting bids or claims on him yesterday.

I ended up adding Anderson in one of those and Hillman in the other, both for free, but it was a tough decision to have to drop somebody to make room

 
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Gopher State said:
Thompson is a rookie and special teamer, he may see some carries, but I don't see him in the back field with Payton.
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Unlike most rookies, Lammey did mention that Thompson is the best pass blocker of the three. Might not mean much, but could factor into some role.

 
Gopher State said:
I think Hillman gets the first shot at the job, he's got the most experience 3 years, he played well against AZ coming off of the bench

Anderson will have a role, and maybe the job if Hillman fumbles or is not effective

Thompson is a rookie and special teamer, he may see some carries, but I don't see him in the back field with Payton.

I see this as a very fluid back field with Hillman getting about 55 percent of the carries, Anderson 40, and Thompson 5

The local newspaper and beatwriters seem to think Hillman gets first chance, but we all been burned by the media in the past
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Peyton ;)

 
Kool-Aid Larry said:
ESPN reports the Broncos will start Knowshon Moreno at running back against the Chiefs.
Ronnie Hillman was expected to lead the Broncos' three-man committee all week long, but they simply don't trust their third-round rookie in pass protection. It makes for a hot mess of a fantasy situation, and one that should be avoided if at all possible. Hillman could still end up leading the Broncos backfield in touches, but based on what we know now, he simply can't be trusted over Moreno. Both Moreno and Hillman are extremely shaky flex options, and should be benched if you have any sort of an alternative. Plodding passing-down specialist Lance Ball is well off the radar.
Related: Lance Ball, Knowshon Moreno
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Sun, Nov 25, 2012 12:20:00 PM
The Associated Press expects the Broncos to "watch" Ronnie Hillman's workload "closely." At just 5'9/200, Hillman certainly isn't built to run between the tackles like Willis McGahee was. He excels at bursting through a hole, bouncing runs to the outside and using his long speed to make plays. Hillman will start against the Chiefs this week and figures to push for 15-plus touches, but don't be surprised to see Lance Ball and Knowshon Moreno mixed in.
Source: Associated Press
Thu, Nov 22, 2012 08:25:00 AM
The Denver Post expects Ronnie Hillman to "get the first call" in Sunday's game against the Chiefs. Hillman has been listed as Willis McGahee's (knee) top backup for weeks now. He's earned the job with explosive outside running ability and by showing well in pass protection. "(Hillman) has improved quite a bit," coach John Fox said Monday. "He's got excellent vision. He's got excellent burst through the hole." The third-round rookie also hasn't lost a fumble all year. We're expecting Hillman to push for 15-18 touches as part of a committee with Lance Ball Sunday.
Source: Denver Post
Tue, Nov 20, 2012 09:15:00 AM

The Broncos are expected to use Ronnie Hillman and Lance Ball in a tandem attack if Willis McGahee (knee) sits out Week 12 at the Chiefs.
The Bengals rushed for a season-high 189 yards at Kansas City, so it's a good matchup. Hillman took over as the lead back once McGahee left Sunday, but managed just 28 yards on 11 carries (2.5 YPC) in the role. The slightly built rookie has struggled to run between the tackles. For fantasy purposes, however, Hillman is the recommended pickup this week over passing-down specialist Ball. McGahee is going for an MRI on Monday.
Related: Lance Ball
Source: Denver Post
Mon, Nov 19, 2012 02:55:00 AM
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Feelin' GREAT about the CJ scoop now :yes:

 
JFS171 said:
To me, that last tweet is most interesting... "It's our job to get him in space." Denver isn't stupid - Hillman isn't a between-the-tackles guy.

I'm going down with the ship on Anderson. We've seen this before with Hillman. We've seen the team talk him up to no end the last time their starter went down... and what happened?
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Hillman should be the third down back...but I don't see him in on 1st and 2nd. We'll see. Been wrong before, but I'd prefer to take a shot on Anderson.

Plus, with DEN bringing in RBs, makes me think Ball might be out awhile. Maybe they'd save him til completely healthy or even hold out until the playoffs.

 
Black said:
JFS171 said:
To me, that last tweet is most interesting... "It's our job to get him in space." Denver isn't stupid - Hillman isn't a between-the-tackles guy.

I'm going down with the ship on Anderson. We've seen this before with Hillman. We've seen the team talk him up to no end the last time their starter went down... and what happened?
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Hillman should be the third down back...but I don't see him in on 1st and 2nd. We'll see. Been wrong before, but I'd prefer to take a shot on Anderson.

Plus, with DEN bringing in RBs, makes me think Ball might be out awhile. Maybe they'd save him til completely healthy or even hold out until the playoffs.
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They looked at some rbs. Signed no one. I think they are just covering their bases in case hillman and or cj go down

 
Kool-Aid Larry said:
ESPN reports the Broncos will start Knowshon Moreno at running back against the Chiefs.
Ronnie Hillman was expected to lead the Broncos' three-man committee all week long, but they simply don't trust their third-round rookie in pass protection. It makes for a hot mess of a fantasy situation, and one that should be avoided if at all possible. Hillman could still end up leading the Broncos backfield in touches, but based on what we know now, he simply can't be trusted over Moreno. Both Moreno and Hillman are extremely shaky flex options, and should be benched if you have any sort of an alternative. Plodding passing-down specialist Lance Ball is well off the radar.
Related: Lance Ball, Knowshon Moreno
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Sun, Nov 25, 2012 12:20:00 PM
The Associated Press expects the Broncos to "watch" Ronnie Hillman's workload "closely." At just 5'9/200, Hillman certainly isn't built to run between the tackles like Willis McGahee was. He excels at bursting through a hole, bouncing runs to the outside and using his long speed to make plays. Hillman will start against the Chiefs this week and figures to push for 15-plus touches, but don't be surprised to see Lance Ball and Knowshon Moreno mixed in.
Source: Associated Press
Thu, Nov 22, 2012 08:25:00 AM
The Denver Post expects Ronnie Hillman to "get the first call" in Sunday's game against the Chiefs. Hillman has been listed as Willis McGahee's (knee) top backup for weeks now. He's earned the job with explosive outside running ability and by showing well in pass protection. "(Hillman) has improved quite a bit," coach John Fox said Monday. "He's got excellent vision. He's got excellent burst through the hole." The third-round rookie also hasn't lost a fumble all year. We're expecting Hillman to push for 15-18 touches as part of a committee with Lance Ball Sunday.
Source: Denver Post
Tue, Nov 20, 2012 09:15:00 AM

The Broncos are expected to use Ronnie Hillman and Lance Ball in a tandem attack if Willis McGahee (knee) sits out Week 12 at the Chiefs.
The Bengals rushed for a season-high 189 yards at Kansas City, so it's a good matchup. Hillman took over as the lead back once McGahee left Sunday, but managed just 28 yards on 11 carries (2.5 YPC) in the role. The slightly built rookie has struggled to run between the tackles. For fantasy purposes, however, Hillman is the recommended pickup this week over passing-down specialist Ball. McGahee is going for an MRI on Monday.
Related: Lance Ball
Source: Denver Post
Mon, Nov 19, 2012 02:55:00 AM
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These quotes are all from 2012, a lot has changed in two years, everything I see from the local beat writers to Payton tweets say Hillman is the guy

 
Kool-Aid Larry said:
ESPN reports the Broncos will start Knowshon Moreno at running back against the Chiefs.
Ronnie Hillman was expected to lead the Broncos' three-man committee all week long, but they simply don't trust their third-round rookie in pass protection. It makes for a hot mess of a fantasy situation, and one that should be avoided if at all possible. Hillman could still end up leading the Broncos backfield in touches, but based on what we know now, he simply can't be trusted over Moreno. Both Moreno and Hillman are extremely shaky flex options, and should be benched if you have any sort of an alternative. Plodding passing-down specialist Lance Ball is well off the radar.
Related: Lance Ball, Knowshon Moreno
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Sun, Nov 25, 2012 12:20:00 PM
The Associated Press expects the Broncos to "watch" Ronnie Hillman's workload "closely." At just 5'9/200, Hillman certainly isn't built to run between the tackles like Willis McGahee was. He excels at bursting through a hole, bouncing runs to the outside and using his long speed to make plays. Hillman will start against the Chiefs this week and figures to push for 15-plus touches, but don't be surprised to see Lance Ball and Knowshon Moreno mixed in.
Source: Associated Press
Thu, Nov 22, 2012 08:25:00 AM
The Denver Post expects Ronnie Hillman to "get the first call" in Sunday's game against the Chiefs. Hillman has been listed as Willis McGahee's (knee) top backup for weeks now. He's earned the job with explosive outside running ability and by showing well in pass protection. "(Hillman) has improved quite a bit," coach John Fox said Monday. "He's got excellent vision. He's got excellent burst through the hole." The third-round rookie also hasn't lost a fumble all year. We're expecting Hillman to push for 15-18 touches as part of a committee with Lance Ball Sunday.
Source: Denver Post
Tue, Nov 20, 2012 09:15:00 AM

The Broncos are expected to use Ronnie Hillman and Lance Ball in a tandem attack if Willis McGahee (knee) sits out Week 12 at the Chiefs.
The Bengals rushed for a season-high 189 yards at Kansas City, so it's a good matchup. Hillman took over as the lead back once McGahee left Sunday, but managed just 28 yards on 11 carries (2.5 YPC) in the role. The slightly built rookie has struggled to run between the tackles. For fantasy purposes, however, Hillman is the recommended pickup this week over passing-down specialist Ball. McGahee is going for an MRI on Monday.
Related: Lance Ball
Source: Denver Post
Mon, Nov 19, 2012 02:55:00 AM
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Is 2012 news relevant to this discussion?

 
Gopher State said:
Kool-Aid Larry said:
ESPN reports the Broncos will start Knowshon Moreno at running back against the Chiefs.
Ronnie Hillman was expected to lead the Broncos' three-man committee all week long, but they simply don't trust their third-round rookie in pass protection. It makes for a hot mess of a fantasy situation, and one that should be avoided if at all possible. Hillman could still end up leading the Broncos backfield in touches, but based on what we know now, he simply can't be trusted over Moreno. Both Moreno and Hillman are extremely shaky flex options, and should be benched if you have any sort of an alternative. Plodding passing-down specialist Lance Ball is well off the radar.
Related: Lance Ball, Knowshon Moreno
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Sun, Nov 25, 2012 12:20:00 PM
The Associated Press expects the Broncos to "watch" Ronnie Hillman's workload "closely." At just 5'9/200, Hillman certainly isn't built to run between the tackles like Willis McGahee was. He excels at bursting through a hole, bouncing runs to the outside and using his long speed to make plays. Hillman will start against the Chiefs this week and figures to push for 15-plus touches, but don't be surprised to see Lance Ball and Knowshon Moreno mixed in.
Source: Associated Press
Thu, Nov 22, 2012 08:25:00 AM
The Denver Post expects Ronnie Hillman to "get the first call" in Sunday's game against the Chiefs. Hillman has been listed as Willis McGahee's (knee) top backup for weeks now. He's earned the job with explosive outside running ability and by showing well in pass protection. "(Hillman) has improved quite a bit," coach John Fox said Monday. "He's got excellent vision. He's got excellent burst through the hole." The third-round rookie also hasn't lost a fumble all year. We're expecting Hillman to push for 15-18 touches as part of a committee with Lance Ball Sunday.
Source: Denver Post
Tue, Nov 20, 2012 09:15:00 AM

The Broncos are expected to use Ronnie Hillman and Lance Ball in a tandem attack if Willis McGahee (knee) sits out Week 12 at the Chiefs.
The Bengals rushed for a season-high 189 yards at Kansas City, so it's a good matchup. Hillman took over as the lead back once McGahee left Sunday, but managed just 28 yards on 11 carries (2.5 YPC) in the role. The slightly built rookie has struggled to run between the tackles. For fantasy purposes, however, Hillman is the recommended pickup this week over passing-down specialist Ball. McGahee is going for an MRI on Monday.
Related: Lance Ball
Source: Denver Post
Mon, Nov 19, 2012 02:55:00 AM
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These quotes are all from 2012, a lot has changed in two years, everything I see from the local beat writers to Payton tweets say Hillman is the guy
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now or in 2012?

 
Well I picked up both Hillman and CJ... I'll be at the game on Sunday. Going to keep them both until I know for sure who's likely to get the carries.

 
Gopher State said:
Kool-Aid Larry said:
ESPN reports the Broncos will start Knowshon Moreno at running back against the Chiefs.
Ronnie Hillman was expected to lead the Broncos' three-man committee all week long, but they simply don't trust their third-round rookie in pass protection. It makes for a hot mess of a fantasy situation, and one that should be avoided if at all possible. Hillman could still end up leading the Broncos backfield in touches, but based on what we know now, he simply can't be trusted over Moreno. Both Moreno and Hillman are extremely shaky flex options, and should be benched if you have any sort of an alternative. Plodding passing-down specialist Lance Ball is well off the radar.
Related: Lance Ball, Knowshon Moreno
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Sun, Nov 25, 2012 12:20:00 PM
The Associated Press expects the Broncos to "watch" Ronnie Hillman's workload "closely." At just 5'9/200, Hillman certainly isn't built to run between the tackles like Willis McGahee was. He excels at bursting through a hole, bouncing runs to the outside and using his long speed to make plays. Hillman will start against the Chiefs this week and figures to push for 15-plus touches, but don't be surprised to see Lance Ball and Knowshon Moreno mixed in.
Source: Associated Press
Thu, Nov 22, 2012 08:25:00 AM
The Denver Post expects Ronnie Hillman to "get the first call" in Sunday's game against the Chiefs. Hillman has been listed as Willis McGahee's (knee) top backup for weeks now. He's earned the job with explosive outside running ability and by showing well in pass protection. "(Hillman) has improved quite a bit," coach John Fox said Monday. "He's got excellent vision. He's got excellent burst through the hole." The third-round rookie also hasn't lost a fumble all year. We're expecting Hillman to push for 15-18 touches as part of a committee with Lance Ball Sunday.
Source: Denver Post
Tue, Nov 20, 2012 09:15:00 AM

The Broncos are expected to use Ronnie Hillman and Lance Ball in a tandem attack if Willis McGahee (knee) sits out Week 12 at the Chiefs.
The Bengals rushed for a season-high 189 yards at Kansas City, so it's a good matchup. Hillman took over as the lead back once McGahee left Sunday, but managed just 28 yards on 11 carries (2.5 YPC) in the role. The slightly built rookie has struggled to run between the tackles. For fantasy purposes, however, Hillman is the recommended pickup this week over passing-down specialist Ball. McGahee is going for an MRI on Monday.
Related: Lance Ball
Source: Denver Post
Mon, Nov 19, 2012 02:55:00 AM
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These quotes are all from 2012, a lot has changed in two years, everything I see from the local beat writers to Payton tweets say Hillman is the guy
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Peyton

 
The part that I find most concerning - as an Anderson owner - is that Ball was under performing going into last week's game. Wouldn't that prompt you as the head coach to keep the number two guy active in case Ball under performs again. SO maybe the number 2 really is Hillman.

 
The Dude said:
The part that I find most concerning - as an Anderson owner - is that Ball was under performing going into last week's game. Wouldn't that prompt you as the head coach to keep the number two guy active in case Ball under performs again. SO maybe the number 2 really is Hillman.
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you're starting to get it.

 
JohnnyU said:
The Dude said:
The part that I find most concerning - as an Anderson owner - is that Ball was under performing going into last week's game. Wouldn't that prompt you as the head coach to keep the number two guy active in case Ball under performs again. SO maybe the number 2 really is Hillman.
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you're starting to get it.
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Any chance it's the offensive line under performing and not Ball? I haven't watched the Broncos enough to really pay attention to that.

 
The Dude said:
The part that I find most concerning - as an Anderson owner - is that Ball was under performing going into last week's game. Wouldn't that prompt you as the head coach to keep the number two guy active in case Ball under performs again. SO maybe the number 2 really is Hillman.
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so what your saying is that we should trust what the broncos brass says? Just like when they said hillman was the guy then all of a sudden moreno was the guy?
 
Back in 2012, Hillman was a rookie. They ended up going with the established veteran in Moreno, but that's hardly relevant anymore.

He's now in his 3rd year and likely has gained a level of comfort he didn't have before, and he brings an element of speed that the other backs don't. He was a 3rd round pick by this group, and I don't see a lot of reasons to believe they're lying when they say the expect Hillman to be the primary ballcarrier.

That doesn't mean others won't get touches, but I suspect Hillman should have a few catches and some room to rattle off some nice runs if he's decisive and doesn't fumble. It's a pretty big opportunity for him, but he'll need to get off to a nice start to take advantage of it. It's not like Monte Ball was performing at a level where he'd be guaranteed to get his job back.

 
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four said:
JohnnyU said:
The Dude said:
The part that I find most concerning - as an Anderson owner - is that Ball was under performing going into last week's game. Wouldn't that prompt you as the head coach to keep the number two guy active in case Ball under performs again. SO maybe the number 2 really is Hillman.
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you're starting to get it.
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Any chance it's the offensive line under performing and not Ball? I haven't watched the Broncos enough to really pay attention to that.
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Ball has been very meh IMO. Should be interesting to see how this all shakes out between Hillman and CJ.

 
allgar said:
Well I picked up both Hillman and CJ... I'll be at the game on Sunday. Going to keep them both until I know for sure who's likely to get the carries.
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And by the time you do, Ball should be back.

This could be a 3 headed monster w/ thompson in the mix possibly getting some goal line love. I'm still betting that CJ separates himself till ball returns. The talk radio out here in denver was very down on hillman, then he is mysteriously MIA for the first 3 weeks.

 
Steelers4Life said:
Back in 2012, Hillman was a rookie. They ended up going with the established veteran in Moreno, but that's hardly relevant anymore.

He's now in his 3rd year and likely has gained a level of comfort he didn't have before, and he brings an element of speed that the other backs don't. He was a 3rd round pick by this group, and I don't see a lot of reasons to believe they're lying when they say the expect Hillman to be the primary ballcarrier.

That doesn't mean others won't get touches, but I suspect Hillman should have a few catches and some room to rattle off some nice runs if he's decisive and doesn't fumble. It's a pretty big opportunity for him, but he'll need to get off to a nice start to take advantage of it. It's not like Monte Ball was performing at a level where he'd be guaranteed to get his job back.
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was he a rookie last year when they were saying the same things about hillman in training camp?
 
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