IMO - Jeter will not get 3000 hits.

Players who I think have a shot (other than the obvious Palmeiro):

Pujols - 787 after 4 seasons (24 years old)
A-Rod - 1707 after 11 seasons (28 years old)
Juan Pierre - 859 after 5 seasons (26 years old)

However, its really still to early to tell with these guys.  You have to play a LONG time to reach 3000.

Born: July 27, 1975, New York, NY

wait a second A-Rod is not 28 years old at all, he's going to be 30 in a month

I'm curious as to why you don't believe he will get to 3,000 hits. He will only be 31 in a few days and should easily finish with over 1,900 hits this year.
His 162 game average throughout his career is 206 hits. Barring injury, that will get him to 3,000 before his 37th birthday. If Jeter is not spectacular, he is extremely consistent. If he cuts down on the strikeouts and stays healthy into his early 40's, he could actually attain 4,000 hits. I'm not saying it will happen, but it certainly could.

other guys with more hits than The POOSAY with their ages

Raffy needs 55 to make him even more of a lock for the HoF than he already is...

Its just my opinion, but I'd be surprised if he makes it.  Of course its certainly not out of the question, but personally I'd give him a 10% chance.

Another negative is he doesn't have a ton of power.  A lot of the 3000 club are able to maintain their careers because even if the batting avg suffers, they still have some pop.  This won't be the case for Jeter, he'll need to continue to stay a .300 hitter throughout his career.  (which, in retrospect, severely damages Juan Pierre's chances)

Have to admit, this made me laugh and nothing more. 10% is folly at best.


To further poke holes in your theory, a lot of the 3000 hit club had power? Interesting...
Pete Rose
Ty Cobb
Tris Speaker
Cap Anson
Honus Wagner
Paul Molitor
Eddie Collins

I only listed seven players of the top 10 on the all-time most hits list as the other three (Musial, Aaron and Yastrzemski) had power. Did these guys have a lot of power? Among all seven combined, there were TWO 20 homer seasons.

Do you get the feeling that no one else really cares

How many career hits does Jack Wilson have.

1 for 4 today.. I think he's got a 10 game hitting streak.. although he did leave 4 on base today..

1810 at the end of the night..

(926 views)  how long before the total views pass the total hits????????

18 more for Raffy and make his lock for the Hall of Fame (first ballot) even more of a lock than it already is...

GiantsSeasonTicketholder..

you beat me to it :thumbsup:

i'll update it as well..
5 for 6...  1818 ..bumping the average to .309

It's sad when a DH gets in the Hall. Part time players don't deserve it. Especially on the first ballot.

It's sad when a DH gets in the Hall. Part time players don't deserve it. Especially on the first ballot.

I see that you are an idiot...

Before this season...

1B : 2046
DH : 423
OF : 212

This year...

1B : 58
DH : 11

Yes he does some DHing, but he usually plays the field...

So, let me get this straight - we have a thread for someone who's 1100+ hits away from 3000 hits, but no thread for someone who's 18 hits away from 3000 hits?

Yea, I guess there should be NO pitchers in the hall since they only play about 10% of everyone else. Plus there hitting stats are way below hall standards. Not to mention AL pitchers don't even go to the plate.

That's not my point

What is?

He is Eddie Murray, but he plays in better ballparks and in a more hitter friendly time. 600 hr's and 3000 hits are Hall worthy already.

That's not my point, but to further expand yours, there will be less and less primarily starting pitchers going to the Hall in the future. Clemens, Maddux, Pedro, and RJ are first ballot, no question. Is there another sure-fire HOF'er out there after that?

That's not my point, but to further expand yours, there will be less and less primarily starting pitchers going to the Hall in the future. Clemens, Maddux, Pedro, and RJ are first ballot, no question. Is there another sure-fire HOF'er out there after that?

I'm not a big fan of Raffy's case for the Hall, but 600/3000 is not going to be denied.  I don't like that he has basically been a better then average part-time player for a long time.  But then again, thats part of baseball, so it qualifies.

COlin

Possibly John Smoltz... 170 wins, 154 saves, 3.26 ERA, 1.17 WHIP

Comparison to Eck (who pitched relief a lot longer)... 197 wins, 390 saves, 3.50 ERA, 1.16 WHIP

Possibly. I feel if he stayed as a closer, he would easily have surpassed 300 save and with his career as a starter, it woould most certainly have been enough to get him there.

Rivera is a definite First Ballot™ but he is not a starter. I think closers will become more prevelant in HOF voting in the next 20 years and there will be more closers getting in than starters.

I realize he's no Willie Mays, but 8 straight years with 38 or more HR's.  That has to be a record.