I was about to renew my league's commissioner service, but I noticed that there is a place for promotional codes that may lower the price of the service. Does anyone know of any promotional codes that they'd like to share?

This is the best I could find in the 30 seconds I looked. http://www.allonlinecoupons.com/st/cbs-sportsline/
No discount for the legue commish service though...

There are lots of coupon sites that list promotional codes for all sorts of sites. You may want to do visit some and check them out. GL!

Soprtsline is way way way too expensive for what you get. You might try www.fanball.com as a much cheaper alternative. I switched a league over last year with almost no issues (just some training on waivers was needed).

I'd say the best coupon code you could use would be http://www.myfantasyleague.com. You have to enter it in the address bar for it to work, though.

STSM2005

10% off, from Street and Smith's 2005 Yearbook

lmao!

Truth.

Half the price of Sportsline is about right for myfantasyleague. You get about half of the features with none of the other bells and whistles that come with a Sportsline league. I would much rather pay about six more dollars per team to get a much better product.

I'm not sure why CBS Sportsline gets bashed so often on this site, but EVERY time there is a thread asking a question about it, people will start hijacking the thread and talking about the site they like better and why.

I love CBSSportsline. It would take an incredible alternative for me to switch our league.

sportsline rocks for our league. No one wants me to change it and everyone thinks the extra couple bucks (12 teams) more then makes it worth it. $10 a person isn't much at all.

I've played on fanball and ESPN last year as well. They're okay, actually ESPNs service was terrible. Im sure ESPN will bounce back hard this year, they've got the money to do so and they know they can't come with the same weak product they had last year.

What are the features that Sporsline has that the other league hosting sites don't have?

Putting something like, " Get your entire league and all features included at one low price of $129.95" on your product is just laughable.

Their features are lacking when compared to other cheaper alternatives. The service they provide has always been a joke.

Go www.rtsports.com if you want a feature packed service. It's a little more than Fanball and about the same as Myfantasyleague if you include all the early bird deals both have.

So if people want to pay 130 bucks for a league that doesn't have near as many features as other cheaper, higher quality alternatives then they deserve a good bash on the back of the head.

I've used yahoo, espn, myfantasyleague.com and cbs sportsline, and for me cbs is the best and easiest to navigate.

I am okay with you having your opinion about why RT sports (or any other site) is better, or that CBS is 'over priced'. But you then say that people who use it 'deserve a good bash on the back of the head.'

I don't understand the animosity. Do you rip on people when they wear branded clothing that costs twice as much as something that came from Wal-mart? Do you post in FFA threads about BWMs and tell them they could have a car that still gets them from point A to point B for 1/3 of the price? It is a wierd dynamic that I have never understood about the people on this board.

If a friend of mine sticks a couple straws up his nose, then slips and makes said nose bleed... I'd laugh and call him an idiot.

There's no "animosity" in it all. I don't wish personal injury or some type of bad things to befall anyone. I'll still laugh at em though.

I simply associate the people overpaying CBS for subpar features are like that friend who sticks straws up his nose. He / they did it to themselves, so a good slap on the back of the head to knock some sense into them is well deserved.

The antimosity with CBS is price and for the first 2 weeks of the season, everybody with a problem floods this forum saying they cannot access their league or live scoring is wrong, etc. It happens every year.

EVERY YEAR.
I have had leagues on each site (MFL & CBS) since their inception. CBS is overpriced and their customer service is lacking to say the least. The features and performance have improved each year, but the CS still kind of sucks. It is flashy and full of info, but the info kind of sucks too. That said, I still kind of like it.

MFL is fairly priced, the features are top notch, the site is easy to navigate, very easy to modify, and what they lack in flash they make up for with customer service and "customizability".

While flashy looks nice, it's hard to argue against superior performance for half the price.

And every year it mystifies me. I've commished a league at CBS for years (from back when it was free) & we have yet to have any owner in our league not be able to access the league website. I'm no CBS shill - I know it's overpriced - but every year our league votes to stay there because it has worked for them & they're comfortable with it.

Live scoring has gotten whacky from time to time. A couple of years ago, kickers were getting about 1000x the points they should have. But it's almost always been corrected within a couple of hours.

Their customer service through e-mail is terrible. However, I've got a phone number around here somewhere that gets you through to a real person. I'll post it when I find it, because I've always had better luck that way than with their idiotic e-mail support. The majority of the calls I've had to make have been for guys forgetting their passwords, me screwing up a new scoring wrinkle, etc.....

Again, I'm not a CBS puppet, but I think that they get unreasonably slammed for performance issues. I cannot justify the high price, but my leaguemates don't mind paying it

a big THANK YOU, to the ONE guy that answered the original post!

while my dynasty leagues are hosted @MFL, it was nice for someone to post a code, as my keeper league insists on staying w/CBS...the $116.95 was alittle easier to swallow, so thanx for the info

What was the question again????

Oh thats right it was about Travis Henry vs Willis Mcgahee

Stick to the topic or start your own thread!

WRONG KEN this is not true for all. I've been with CBS for 6-7 years and had a problem ONE TIME.

And the people who can't access their league....I would say MOST are user error.

This goes back a few years, when mfl.com was just an infant. CBSSportsline made an overt bait-and-switch attempt to drive mfl.com out of business by offering its service for free, with the hope that the greater majority orf mfl.com's customers would jump to CBS. Quite a few did, but many, like my leagues did not, because of all the diverse set-up, scoring, & scheduling options mfl.com offered that CBS did not.

Those of us that stayed with mfl.com @ $40 a league then got a tremendous laugh when the entire CBS network went down for days at a time due to the flood of usage that they had not been prepared to accept. People literally could not run waivers for weeks at a time in some leagues. In the meantime, if we had the slightest problem with anything at mfl.com, an e-mail to support got a response within 1/2 hour.

The year after this happened, CBS pulled the rug out from under their owners, changing from a free league to charging $130/league, while mfl.com stayed at $50/league & improved its options, growing in its versatility - that was the bait-and-switch part. mfl.com survived, offering diverse options at a really good price, while CBS obviously had no intention of sending a reasonable amount of their profits into the product, and a lot of leagues there got the same problems with overloaded servers during the first few weeks of the season, creating huge problems for leagues with late drafts & creating waivers havoc in many leagues. Don't even get me started about CBS's attempted switch to the java draft system - an unqualified disaster that screwed a lot of drafts up badly.

Yet for some reason, people would come to this board, pimping CBS as being so superior, while the mfl.com owners quitely got a little lower quality product, but had superior service & superior reliability by a couple of orders of magnitude. Since that time, CBS has made their product sexier, but have kept the price extremely high, relatively speaking, while mfl.com has raised its prices marginally while improving its product immensely and keeping the same reliable service.

It comes down to people remembering how CBS tried to eliminate its competition through a patently unfair business practice, then screwed its own owners by creating such an absurd price level while offering extremely poor service, but hooking unknowledgable and/or uncaring FF owners.

Mfl.com has always been a reliable, reasonably priced product that has constantly thrown a good amount of its profits to upgrade its product while offering consistently great service. CBS in the meantime got exposed as the wolf in sheep's clothing that it was, and to this day still has tremendous bugs in its service - as evidenced by the waves of posts in the last 2 weeks of preseason through the first 2-3 weeks of regular season where people here are asking if anyone else is having trouble with their CBS league.

We remember mfl.com being steady & dedicated to its leagues while CBS tried to drive them out of business, and we appreciate the way mfl.com runs their ship while holding a reasonable line on their pricing. Hence the animosity to CBS and the spill over to owners who will come to the board crowing about how great CBS's product is.

That animosity is well deserved.

Great post Pony Boy............you could almost insert the word "Blockbuster" or "Wal-mart" instead of CBS in your thread and use it word for word as to the same reason a lot of people don't like Blockbuster and their customer svc or Wal-mart and their preditory practices (or the fact that every Wal-mart that I've been was more of a hassle b/c it was a freakin zoo of people).

I switched a couple of yrs ago to RTsports and haven't looked back. Even traded emails with the owner of the site.

And here's another reason I won't go back to CBS that nobody has mentioned yet: SPAM emails As far as I know, MFL and RTS has never utilized this practice.

Cheaper, more reliable, better customer svc, no spam........sign me up.

Paying top dollar for CBS is equivalent to everyone that still pays top dollar for AOL internet svc.

$10 per team in a 12 team league is hardly much to pay at all for all that CBS offers in an incredibly user friendly package.

An unbelievably detailed statistics library for virtually any stat that you can think of is certainly one and one reason why I along with the majority of my league owners are unwilling to move to another site. $10 per owner is extremely reasonable and the easy to use stats for virtually any situation is incredible. In addition, you can put virtually anything (Power Ranking, Standings, all stats, etc.) into an excel database which is also exceptional.

Just one guy's take.

opps

still just this 1 code---for those of you here looking for one!

Sweet. Thanks!

Excellent. I think I may just go ahead and renew with this code.

I for one have had VERY FEW problems in the 6 years we've used CBS. No problem was big enough to warrant a move. Little things like scoring adjustments, and once in a while live scoring lags....but other than that we've had 6 years without a major hitch.

To each their own. I hope everyone is happy with their choice, as we are with ours.

CBS is NO DOUBT THE GOLD STANDARD when it comes to Navigation. They got it right. No argument. If you're an owner, and you could care less about other things beyond ease of use, you'll LOVE Sportsline.

At the same time, CBS has HORRIFIC customer service. Communication is truly horrible. CBS ultimately demonstrates they don't care about you as a customer, IMHO.
CBS has consistently had SERIOUS issues in early weeks of the season just staying up and accessible.
The live scoring while very fast often misreports plays, and doesn't correctly assign points.
Issues often occur in-season and aren't fixed in a timely manner.
CBS has not improved the product significantly over the last X years (plug in your own X).
And yes, CBS is more expensive than just about anything else.

If you're a Commish, this is the LAST service you want to use. If you're a demanding user, this is simply not the best option.

Outside of my opinion about not caring for Customers, the rest of this stuff is well documented. Just because you haven't had these problems, doesn't mean you won't. I've used most popular fantasy services out there, free and pay, in multiple sports. I personally believe in working with businesses that value me as a customer. From this perspective, there are plenty of better choices out there. I recommend MFL and RT Sports. XPertleagues also seems to have a fine product, but they are not as established (yet).

I am the commish of a dynasty league which has used Sportsline going on six years now. We have had very few problems with Sportsline and do not foresee moving. When an occassional issue had arisen, customer service was, to contradict some posters here, quite prompt (especially given the number of leagues hosted by Sportsline). The longest I have gone without a reply to an email was five hours, and this was on a Sunday afternoon. Any other emails during the week recieved multiple replies. One reply would be a form type email saying the issue was being looked into and then the second email would come soon after from an individual saying the issue had been resolved. Some others may be more picky or high maintanance than our league, but Sportsline fits all of our needs.

...and the Commish of one of my leagues (the only one on CBS Sportsline) is still waiting on a response to a question he asked in week 2 last year... it's coming up on one year, and he's asked it 3-4 times - so is that fast enough?

Back to square one: there are lots of people who have had ZERO problems with Sportsline or had a really good experience. My point is that CBS has had too many dissatisfied users to write it off on pure "playah' hating" or "accidents" or "unique issues" or "user errors". You do not ever hear the same level or gravity or numbers of complaints about MFL or RTS or even Yahoo, which is free for crying out loud.

Sapienti Sat.

I agree, but I can only pass along my personal experiences with the site. I did not state our league would never have a problem, just that when we had it was addressed in a timely manner. Again, to each his/her own, but we are happy with the product and service we get from Sportsline for the price we pay.

...and shouldn't it read "Sapienti Sat Est"?

Why do some people try to talk other people out of things they dont want out of?

Jeebus, if you dont like or use CBS, more power to you. You dont have to tell everyone, in detail, why you dont like it or why Im stupid for using it. Im not trying to convert anyone over to CBS and I couldnt care less what service you use. I use one I like, you use one you like, everyones happy. What the problem is?!

So we should have one sticky thread each week to piss and moan about the league sites so there will be one and only one thread for it.

Ken is WRONG? I recall LOTS of people complaining about Sportsline every year. Have you ever done a search? There are lots of threads complaining.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...6&hl=Sportsline
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...1&st=&p=&#entry
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...opic=125451&hl=
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...opic=112130&hl=

I don't doubt that you have had a good run with them, but to simply right off all the complainers as incompetants is obsurd.

How is this not true? I have been on this board for almost 5 years and every year it is the same thing. People come out of the woodwork with their CBS problems.

Reread my post. I did not say that everyone had a problem. I said everyone WITH a problem.

Our league on CBS has a very active message board. EVERY YEAR, CBS prunes the board in the middle of the year. It is not that we have reach our limit. One day the messages from September are there, the next day they are not. The response from customer support the past two years has been. "That's weird."

As stated earlier CBS is the GOLD STANDARD when it comes to usability and integration of content.

That IS weird. Each year our message board has 200+ posts, and weve never had a post(s) disappear. Until I delete them the following year.

Bottomline: EVERY service has problems from time to time. Its the nature of the technology. Even FBG.com has problems from time to time, but Im not gonna stop paying for the service.

RT, MFL, CBS....they ALL have downtime or glitches every year. You see more CBS posters complaining because its the biggest and has the most customers, so more people are affected.

See my posts in bold in the quote above (sorry for the sloppy post)

I am sure that you will think that I am one of the people 'crowing' about how good CBS is, but if you re-read my posts, not once do I make a qualitative statement that CBS is better than anyone else. People post here and either overstate or mis-state the facts about the past, and/or post horror stories that are not representative of what my experience has been with them. Perhaps I have just been lucky...


S.I.M.

Um, I would categorize that as not necessarily true. CBS seems to have by far the highest rate of complaints - hands down.

We could start a forum here for CBS problems and it would probably be fairly busy the entire season.

Maybe management services should provide a board for problems & questions that are patrolled by administrators...Wait, mfl.com already has that.

I just think that CBS gets a bad rap. I would bet that MFL and RTsports, etc...have the same problems, but CBS gets all the complaints - maybe because more are on CBS then the others. - Just last year in my RTsports league, we had 2-3 major issues in scoring with defense/special team/fumble recovered for tds. DID everybody forget about that....ofcourse not, but if it happened in CBS, there would be 200 posts about it.

We're well over 200. Probably around 25 a day.

I hate to burst your bubble, but you have mischaracterizied the situation.

CBS used to charge a moderate amount, then went free for 1 year about 2 years after mfl.com came on-line. CBS was free for exactly one year - after they acquired a ton of customers that year, they jacked the price way, way up - well beyond what they had initially charged. That is precisely bait & switch: You lure a customer in with an attractive offer that you have no intention of continuing & then switch the terms after the customer has come onboard.

There can bve very little question about CBS's intentions or actions during this time period - and it was dirty. You can spin the story any way you want, especially if you intend on pimping CBS. That doesn't change the facts. I'll let the complaints about their service speak for themselves. It used to be a whole lot worse that what is posted above.

I will give CBS some credit though - they inject a tremendous amount of humor into the FF season with their predictions each week. They usually come up with quite a few items each week that are downright knee slappers.

It's too bad they aren't intending to be funny...

I never said anything about them being free for more than one year. I have been using CBS well before they had their free year.

And for waht it is worth, what you are accusing CBS of is called predatory pricing. As you mentioned in your first post, Wal-mart is accused of predatory prcing all the time by small 'mom and pop shops'. 'Bait and Switch' is the practice of advertising a product at a reduced price, and then not having that product available and attempting to sell a different and/or more expensive product to the customer.

While this is true, anyone who counts on CBS to decide who to start or who the money play is on any given week has much bigger problems and should be playing in free yahoo leagues.

I dont pay for the info, just for the interface.

Like "free" for instance? Or is that not reduced enough for you?






Like charging $130 for a league at their site after it had been established the previous year for free?

Thanks for clarifying that for me.