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Mar 14 2008, 12:32 PM

By position:

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Category         First place    Second place
Catcher                Russell Martin    Joe Mauer
First baseman              Albert Pujols    Tie: Mark Teixeira/Derrek Lee
Second baseman           Chase Utley    Robinson Cano
Shortstop                   Jimmy Rollins    Tie: Troy Tulowitzki/Jose Reyes
Third baseman               Alex Rodriguez    David Wright
Left fielder                      Matt Holliday    Manny Ramirez
Center fielder                    Carlos Beltran    Ichiro Suzuki
Right fielder                       Vladimir Guerrero    Tie: Ichiro Suzuki/Magglio Ordonez
Starting pitcher              Tie: Josh Beckett/Johan Santana
Setup man                       Jonathan Broxton    Joba Chamberlain
Closer                              Jonathan Papelbon    Mariano Rivera

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Category    First place    Second place
Best hitter                   Ichiro Suzuki    Alex Rodriguez
Best clutch hitter        David Ortiz    Albert Pujols
Best power hitter       Ryan Howard    Alex Rodriguez
Best bunter                 Juan Pierre    Ichiro Suzuki
Best bat control        Ichiro Suzuki    Placido Polanco]

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Category    First place    Second place
Best fastball               Justin Verlander    Joba Chamberlain
Best curve            Josh Beckett    Four players tied
Best splitter               Jonathan Papelbon    John Smoltz
Best command          Greg Maddux    Tom Glavine
Best competitor      Jake Peavy    Tie: Josh Beckett/Roy Oswalt

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Category               First place    Second place
Best infielder                    Jose Reyes    Yuniesky Betancourt
Best outfielder                  Ichiro Suzuki    Torii Hunter
Best arm                     Ichiro Suzuki    Jeff Francoeur
Best at turning DP           Orlando Hudson    Tie: Placido Polanco/Luis Castillo
Best picker at first base     Tie: Derrek Lee/Todd Helton
Best at defending bunt             Tie: Adrian Beltre/Ryan Zimmerman

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Category    First place    Second place
Fastest runner                    Carl Crawford    Ichiro Suzuki
Best basestealer          Jose Reyes    Ichiro Suzuki
Best baserunner             Ichiro Suzuki    Jose Reyes
Best picker at first base     Derrek Lee    Todd Helton
Best at breaking up DP             Tie: Gary Sheffield/Carl Crawford

shadyridr

Mar 14 2008, 12:43 PM

Pretty cool. Robinson

the moops

Mar 14 2008, 12:51 PM

Derrek Lee should not be 2nd place for 1B.

shadyridr

Mar 14 2008, 12:52 PM

QUOTE (the moops @ Mar 14 2008, 01:51 PM)

Derrek Lee should not be 2nd place for 1B.

Pretty sure it includes fielding and hitting.

TitusIII

Mar 14 2008, 12:53 PM

Well, if you take his defense into account, he is pretty damn close to the total package...if the power comes back this year, I don't have any problems with him at #2...

the moops

Mar 14 2008, 12:56 PM

QUOTE (shadyridr @ Mar 14 2008, 12:52 PM)

QUOTE (the moops @ Mar 14 2008, 01:51 PM)

Derrek Lee should not be 2nd place for 1B.

Pretty sure it includes fielding and hitting.

I didnt click on the link. But if it does include defense, how the hell is Manny Ramirez #2?

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Mar 14 2008, 12:56 PM

Surprised to see Beckett with Best curve. It's filthy no doubt.... but best... hrmm

Paps with the best splitter... I can buy that. It's pretty sick (thanks Schilling

)

Manny Ramirez as 2nd best left fielder =

.... bat wise.. maybe... but total package? He's got a great arm.. and he plays the monster well, but his range/hustle factor is putrid.

Finless

Mar 14 2008, 01:37 PM

I'll take Hanley over Tulo 10 out of 10 times.

Giant Wooden Badger

Mar 14 2008, 02:40 PM

QUOTE (Finless @ Mar 14 2008, 02:37 PM)

I'll take Hanley over Tulo 10 out of 10 times.

Hanley is a disgrace in the field.

Eviloutsider

Mar 14 2008, 09:48 PM

It looks like some serious Boston/East Coast Bias in that list.

Joba hasn't proven anything yet.

pillowpants

Mar 15 2008, 02:21 AM

QUOTE (Eviloutsider @ Mar 14 2008, 10:48 PM)

It looks like some serious Boston/East Coast Bias in that list.

Joba hasn't proven anything yet.

Really? Outside of Manny Ramirez (

) I find it hard to disagree with any of those names.

Eviloutsider

Mar 15 2008, 07:11 AM

Maybe I am just a huge believer in Beckett yet. Also, Mariano and Papelbon should not be the best closers. If you want to go by past history than Mariano is fine. If you want to go by recent history than Papelbon is fine. You can't go both ways.

Manny on the list is funny. Joba is unproven. Cano is a little iffy in my mind as well. I will agree on the Ortiz-most clutch thing though.

the moops

Mar 15 2008, 07:49 AM

Tom Glavine should not be 2nd on the list in control.

Maddux averaged a MLB best 1.14 BB/9. Glavine had a 2.9 BB/9. Which is right in line with his career numbers.

I also can't believe it is a tie between Beckett and Santana as best pitcher. Beckett may have had a better year than Sanatana last year, but that would be the fist time in his career he has done so. Santana >>> Beckett.

Greco

Mar 15 2008, 08:00 AM

QUOTE (Giant Wooden Badger @ Mar 14 2008, 04:40 PM)

QUOTE (Finless @ Mar 14 2008, 02:37 PM)

I'll take Hanley over Tulo 10 out of 10 times.

Hanley is a disgrace in the field.

Apparently, fielding wasn't taken into consideration. See Magglio.

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