ianfitzy
Mar 21 2008, 10:22 AM
Johnny Cueto, $player.pos - Reds
According to the Associated Press, Cueto has won a spot in the Reds' rotation.
Fantasy Source spin: He could be as high as the team's No. 3 starter. The word is out about Cueto in fantasy leagues as well, and he should be owned in all formats.
How do you guys think he will do?
boom king
Mar 21 2008, 10:26 AM
QUOTE (ianfitzy @ Mar 21 2008, 11:22 AM)

Johnny Cueto, $player.pos - Reds
According to the Associated Press, Cueto has won a spot in the Reds' rotation.
Fantasy Source spin: He could be as high as the team's No. 3 starter. The word is out about Cueto in fantasy leagues as well, and he should be owned in all formats.
How do you guys think he will do?
good in keeper leagues. redrafts? overvalued.
MAC_32
Mar 21 2008, 10:29 AM
In a deep redraft he's ownable, shallow one? Not so sure. I'm more confident in my late round pitchers (Greg Maddux, Brian Fuentes, Pat Neshek, Rich Harden) than I am in Cueto. If one of my guys gets sent to the DL before he's picked up I'll do a speculative add, but that's it.
ScottNorwood
Mar 21 2008, 10:43 AM
start with confidence
trogg78
Mar 21 2008, 10:52 AM
QUOTE (MAC_32 @ Mar 21 2008, 12:29 PM)

In a deep redraft he's ownable, shallow one? Not so sure. I'm more confident in my late round pitchers (Greg Maddux, Brian Fuentes, Pat Neshek, Rich Harden) than I am in Cueto. If one of my guys gets sent to the DL before he's picked up I'll do a speculative add, but that's it.
Bite your tongue!
MAC_32
Mar 21 2008, 10:58 AM
QUOTE (trogg78 @ Mar 21 2008, 10:52 AM)

QUOTE (MAC_32 @ Mar 21 2008, 12:29 PM)

In a deep redraft he's ownable, shallow one? Not so sure. I'm more confident in my late round pitchers (Greg Maddux, Brian Fuentes, Pat Neshek, Rich Harden) than I am in Cueto. If one of my guys gets sent to the DL before he's picked up I'll do a speculative add, but that's it.
Bite your tongue!
I think the kid's going to be something special, don't get me wrong. I just don't think he's worth the risk in shallower leagues unless you have the bench space, the guys only pitched 22 innings of +AA ball. Next season's a whole different story, if he does well he may be set to hurl 200+ innings. We'll see if he maintains something close to the 1+ K/IP ratio he had in the minors.
Eephus
Mar 21 2008, 12:44 PM
QUOTE (MAC_32 @ Mar 21 2008, 09:58 AM)

QUOTE (trogg78 @ Mar 21 2008, 10:52 AM)

QUOTE (MAC_32 @ Mar 21 2008, 12:29 PM)

In a deep redraft he's ownable, shallow one? Not so sure. I'm more confident in my late round pitchers (Greg Maddux, Brian Fuentes, Pat Neshek, Rich Harden) than I am in Cueto. If one of my guys gets sent to the DL before he's picked up I'll do a speculative add, but that's it.
Bite your tongue!
I think the kid's going to be something special, don't get me wrong. I just don't think he's worth the risk in shallower leagues unless you have the bench space, the guys only pitched 22 innings of +AA ball. Next season's a whole different story, if he does well he may be set to hurl 200+ innings. We'll see if he maintains something close to the 1+ K/IP ratio he had in the minors.
Cueto is worth a late round flyer. His minor league peripherals were pretty special. He could struggle for a while at this level (and probably will) but his upside is higher than typical end of draft SPs.
Bobcat10
Mar 21 2008, 01:44 PM
I've been waiting for Yahoo to put this guy out there.
Is he worthy of #1 waiver in a redraft 20-team points only league?
I plan on trying to use my #4 waiver position to get him in a dynasty, hoping the top 3 go to sleep here.
Eephus
Mar 21 2008, 02:18 PM
QUOTE (Bobcat10 @ Mar 21 2008, 12:44 PM)

I've been waiting for Yahoo to put this guy out there.
Is he worthy of #1 waiver in a redraft 20-team points only league?
I plan on trying to use my #4 waiver position to get him in a dynasty, hoping the top 3 go to sleep here.
Yahoo has done a pretty good job this year in getting prospects into their database. Cueto, Adenhart & Alexei Ramirez appear to be the only early season guys who aren't in the system yet. There will be guys called up later in the year of course but waiver priorities change a lot between March and September.
Hard to say whether he's worth the #1 priority. It depends on the amount (and stupidity) of drops in your league. By taking Cueto now, you're giving up the opportunity to pick up somebody who starts slow and gets dropped early. That may be worth the risk in a 20 team league.
Bobcat10
Mar 21 2008, 02:39 PM
QUOTE (Eephus @ Mar 21 2008, 03:18 PM)

QUOTE (Bobcat10 @ Mar 21 2008, 12:44 PM)

I've been waiting for Yahoo to put this guy out there.
Is he worthy of #1 waiver in a redraft 20-team points only league?
I plan on trying to use my #4 waiver position to get him in a dynasty, hoping the top 3 go to sleep here.
Yahoo has done a pretty good job this year in getting prospects into their database. Cueto, Adenhart & Alexei Ramirez appear to be the only early season guys who aren't in the system yet. There will be guys called up later in the year of course but waiver priorities change a lot between March and September.
Hard to say whether he's worth the #1 priority. It depends on the amount (and stupidity) of drops in your league. By taking Cueto now, you're giving up the opportunity to pick up somebody who starts slow and gets dropped early. That may be worth the risk in a 20 team league.
Yeah, tough call. Forgot about Adenhart too. If one gets added before the other, I might let him go to see if someone puts in a waiver for him...otherwise I can snag when he clears and keep the #1 waiver.
I actually think Adenhart > Cueto in the dynasty, no? I'm putting in requests for both of them for sure in that league. I'm gonna post in my other thread about this...
Green94
Mar 22 2008, 11:25 AM
Just picked him up. Hoping for good things.
On The Rocks
Mar 23 2008, 06:37 PM
today......not so good.
2/3 inning
3 hits
5 R
5 ER
5 BB
0 SO
1 HR
ummmm....I wouldn't push any panic buttons but that wasn't a good sign.
boom king
Mar 23 2008, 07:19 PM
QUOTE (On The Rocks @ Mar 23 2008, 07:37 PM)

today......not so good.
2/3 inning
3 hits
5 R
5 ER
5 BB
0 SO
1 HR
ummmm....I wouldn't push any panic buttons but that wasn't a good sign.
sweet, i drafted him last night!
MAC_32
Mar 23 2008, 07:49 PM
QUOTE (On The Rocks @ Mar 23 2008, 07:37 PM)

today......not so good.
2/3 inning
3 hits
5 R
5 ER
5 BB
0 SO
1 HR
ummmm....I wouldn't push any panic buttons but that wasn't a good sign.
He's a rook, if you drafted or picked him up these types of outings will come with the territory. He'll also have outings that will remind you why you found room on your roster for him, just be sure you start him those days.
Eephus
Mar 31 2008, 11:13 AM
I'm sitting at #1 waiver priority in a 12 team 5x5 roto redraft league (standard rosters w/ 5 bench slots & 1250 IP limit).
My staff including bench slots:
King Felix
Myers
Cain
McGowan
Hughes
Meche
Soriano
Capps
Sherrill
Rauch
Is it worth burning the priority on Cueto when he gets added to Yahoo?
I'm currently leaning against the move. He's probably a spot starter at best on my staff. I have a couple of holes in my batting lineup (Drew, A.Cabrera, Towles) and I'd hoping somebody makes a dumb drop that will allow me to improve my team.
Bobcat10
Apr 1 2008, 07:31 AM
QUOTE (Eephus @ Mar 31 2008, 12:13 PM)

I'm sitting at #1 waiver priority in a 12 team 5x5 roto redraft league (standard rosters w/ 5 bench slots & 1250 IP limit).
My staff including bench slots:
King Felix
Myers
Cain
McGowan
Hughes
Meche
Soriano
Capps
Sherrill
Rauch
Is it worth burning the priority on Cueto when he gets added to Yahoo?
I'm currently leaning against the move. He's probably a spot starter at best on my staff. I have a couple of holes in my batting lineup (Drew, A.Cabrera, Towles) and I'd hoping somebody makes a dumb drop that will allow me to improve my team.
Tempting, but I think I'd hold it in this scenario.
Eephus
Apr 1 2008, 08:40 AM
Still not in Yahoo
Bobcat10
Apr 1 2008, 09:03 AM
QUOTE (Eephus @ Apr 1 2008, 09:40 AM)

Still not in Yahoo

I think he's gonna have to throw his first pitch, ala Alexi getting a start yesterday and he's added last night.
ScottNorwood
Apr 1 2008, 09:54 AM
QUOTE (Bobcat10 @ Apr 1 2008, 11:03 AM)

QUOTE (Eephus @ Apr 1 2008, 09:40 AM)

Still not in Yahoo

I think he's gonna have to throw his first pitch, ala Alexi getting a start yesterday and he's added last night.
Cueto is even showing up in Yahoo FB articles. It seems like they're not adding him purely out of spite.
JohnnyU
Apr 1 2008, 09:58 AM
QUOTE (ScottNorwood @ Apr 1 2008, 10:54 AM)

QUOTE (Bobcat10 @ Apr 1 2008, 11:03 AM)

QUOTE (Eephus @ Apr 1 2008, 09:40 AM)

Still not in Yahoo

I think he's gonna have to throw his first pitch, ala Alexi getting a start yesterday and he's added last night.
Cueto is even showing up in Yahoo FB articles. It seems like they're not adding him purely out of spite.
I believe the reason they aren't adding him is because those who control it are waiting for their waiver wire order priority to improve.
Bobcat10
Apr 2 2008, 08:20 AM
Added to Yahoo.
shadyridr
Apr 2 2008, 08:28 AM
QUOTE (Bobcat10 @ Apr 2 2008, 10:20 AM)

Added to Yahoo.
Just in time for us to completely miss his first start.
shadyridr
Apr 3 2008, 11:36 AM
QUOTE (shadyridr @ Apr 2 2008, 10:28 AM)

QUOTE (Bobcat10 @ Apr 2 2008, 10:20 AM)

Added to Yahoo.
Just in time for us to completely miss his first start.

DAMN YOU YAHOO
harryhood
Apr 3 2008, 11:38 AM
QUOTE (shadyridr @ Apr 3 2008, 01:36 PM)

QUOTE (shadyridr @ Apr 2 2008, 10:28 AM)

QUOTE (Bobcat10 @ Apr 2 2008, 10:20 AM)

Added to Yahoo.
Just in time for us to completely miss his first start.

DAMN YOU YAHOO
made my commish force him on my roster last night. started him this afternoon.
Raagsreth
Apr 3 2008, 11:47 AM
Cuetomania!
MAC_32
Apr 3 2008, 11:52 AM
I wish I was watching him pitch right now, how's he look? All I have are numbers and they're fantastic.
1-2-many
Apr 3 2008, 12:12 PM
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DAMN YOU YAHOO
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Green94
Apr 3 2008, 12:19 PM
QUOTE (Green94 @ Mar 22 2008, 12:25 PM)

Just picked him up. Hoping for good things.

10k's!!!
Buckfast
Apr 3 2008, 12:20 PM
Ah, I was hoping this would not happen! My keeper draft is tonight and I've had Cueto targeted for weeks now. Not that he was really flying under the radar any more, but giving up only one hit and striking out 10 batters through 6 will definitely boost his draft stock.
I just watched the last couple batters, but he looks very good from what I saw.
MarshallPlan
Apr 3 2008, 12:23 PM
The kid is dealin...
shadyridr
Apr 3 2008, 12:25 PM
Yeah I missed this great start thanks to Yahoo but at least I had 1st waiver priority in a keeper league and grabbed him!
harryhood
Apr 3 2008, 12:25 PM
fastball - 95
fastball - 96
change up - 85
heckmanm
Apr 3 2008, 01:02 PM
Weathers in, promptly walks the bases full with 1 out in the 8th.
awesomeness
Apr 3 2008, 01:09 PM
Final stats of first career start:
7 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 10 K
Jene Bramel
Apr 3 2008, 01:10 PM
Love that Baker took him out after 92 pitches despite retiring another six straight after the HR. It'd have been nice if Weathers could have reinforced the good decision with a solid 8th.
Eephus
Apr 3 2008, 01:38 PM
QUOTE (Jene Bramel @ Apr 3 2008, 12:10 PM)

Love that Baker took him out after 92 pitches despite retiring another six straight after the HR. It'd have been nice if Weathers could have reinforced the good decision with a solid 8th.
10Ks with that pitch count is very impressive for a young pitcher
Sammy3469
Apr 3 2008, 01:39 PM
QUOTE (Eephus @ Apr 3 2008, 03:38 PM)

QUOTE (Jene Bramel @ Apr 3 2008, 12:10 PM)

Love that Baker took him out after 92 pitches despite retiring another six straight after the HR. It'd have been nice if Weathers could have reinforced the good decision with a solid 8th.
10Ks with that pitch count is very impressive for a young pitcher
He was facing the free swinging D-Backs though. Probably the perfect matchup for him
Wrigley
Apr 3 2008, 02:40 PM
Didn't start him in my CBS league
Bobcat10
Apr 3 2008, 02:54 PM
no way he gets to my #4 waiver crap ### expansion keeper team now.
looking to add him with #3 waiver in a 20 team redraft and #7 waiver in a 10 team redraft.
still debating using the #1 in a 20 team redraft on him. probably should in a 20 teamer.
Eephus
Apr 3 2008, 03:08 PM
QUOTE (Bobcat10 @ Apr 3 2008, 01:54 PM)

no way he gets to my #4 waiver crap ### expansion keeper team now.
looking to add him with #3 waiver in a 20 team redraft and #7 waiver in a 10 team redraft.
still debating using the #1 in a 20 team redraft on him. probably should in a 20 teamer.
I'm using my #1 waiver priority in a 12 team mixed. I wasn't planning to, but his outing today makes him attractive trade bait.
Rebirtha
Apr 3 2008, 03:44 PM
QUOTE (Bobcat10 @ Apr 3 2008, 04:54 PM)

still debating using the #1 in a 20 team redraft on him. probably should in a 20 teamer.
I have the #2 in a 20 teamer. If #1 takes Cueto I'll just wait for Kershaw. If he doesn't take Cueto I will.
Wrigley
Apr 3 2008, 04:01 PM
QUOTE (Rebirtha @ Apr 3 2008, 04:44 PM)

QUOTE (Bobcat10 @ Apr 3 2008, 04:54 PM)

still debating using the #1 in a 20 team redraft on him. probably should in a 20 teamer.
I have the #2 in a 20 teamer. If #1 takes Cueto I'll just wait for Kershaw. If he doesn't take Cueto I will.
Funny, I missed out on Cueto in one league, so I took Kershaw 6 rounds later.
cobalt_27
Apr 3 2008, 04:33 PM
QUOTE (1-2-many @ Apr 3 2008, 02:12 PM)

QUOTE
DAMN YOU YAHOO

####### no ####. Yahoo really sort of screwed a lot of us here.
pantagrapher
Apr 3 2008, 06:03 PM
I hope Edinson Volquez does half that well on Sunday.
boom king
Apr 3 2008, 09:36 PM
QUOTE (pantagrapher @ Apr 3 2008, 07:03 PM)

I hope Edinson Volquez does half that well on Sunday.
so about 3 innings, a walk, and 5 ks? sadly, at this point, id take that too...
pantagrapher
Apr 6 2008, 01:14 PM
QUOTE (boom king @ Apr 3 2008, 10:36 PM)

QUOTE (pantagrapher @ Apr 3 2008, 07:03 PM)

I hope Edinson Volquez does half that well on Sunday.
so about 3 innings, a walk, and 5 ks? sadly, at this point, id take that too...
So far, so good.
shuke
Apr 6 2008, 08:40 PM
QUOTE (pantagrapher @ Apr 6 2008, 03:14 PM)

QUOTE (boom king @ Apr 3 2008, 10:36 PM)

QUOTE (pantagrapher @ Apr 3 2008, 07:03 PM)

I hope Edinson Volquez does half that well on Sunday.
so about 3 innings, a walk, and 5 ks? sadly, at this point, id take that too...
So far, so good.
Tony Danza
Apr 8 2008, 02:26 PM
We'll know a lot more about him after he faces a tough Brewer lineup tonight.
On The Rocks
Apr 8 2008, 06:38 PM
i don't want to jinx him early tonight....but there is something pretty cool about watching a kid strikeout the side.
we need a nicname for this kid.
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