CicncyKid
Mar 26 2008, 06:00 AM
Do any of you use ESPN league manager? I put in our league scoring and it projects all players for 2008 according to our system. I was going to use it for our upcoming draft this weekend, but don't want to make a bad decision. Are there better sites or is ESPN ok to use?
thanks
guru_007
Mar 26 2008, 06:21 AM
So you're asking if ESPN league manager can accurately see into the future and predict the stat lines of hundreds of major league baseball players?
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say they come close on some, and not very close on others.
Wrigley
Mar 26 2008, 07:34 AM
Jason Grey now helps out with the ESPN projections.......so yes, I trust them.
MAC_32
Mar 26 2008, 07:35 AM
QUOTE (Wrigley @ Mar 26 2008, 08:34 AM)

Jason Grey now helps out with the ESPN projections.......so yes, I trust them.
Really? Hmm, how much help does he offer?
Wrigley
Mar 26 2008, 08:10 AM
QUOTE (MAC_32 @ Mar 26 2008, 08:35 AM)

QUOTE (Wrigley @ Mar 26 2008, 08:34 AM)

Jason Grey now helps out with the ESPN projections.......so yes, I trust them.
Really? Hmm, how much help does he offer?
HEREQUOTE
Jason Grey is a graduate of the MLB Scouting Bureau's Scout Development Program and has won two Tout Wars titles, one LABR title and numerous other national "experts" competitions.
I've been following what he has to say for several years now......he knows stuff.
MAC_32
Mar 26 2008, 08:58 AM
QUOTE (Wrigley @ Mar 26 2008, 09:10 AM)

QUOTE (MAC_32 @ Mar 26 2008, 08:35 AM)

QUOTE (Wrigley @ Mar 26 2008, 08:34 AM)

Jason Grey now helps out with the ESPN projections.......so yes, I trust them.
Really? Hmm, how much help does he offer?
HEREQUOTE
Jason Grey is a graduate of the MLB Scouting Bureau's Scout Development Program and has won two Tout Wars titles, one LABR title and numerous other national "experts" competitions.
I've been following what he has to say for several years now......he knows stuff.
Oh no, I know of Grey's background. I want to know how much time he is investing into helping them. I don't know if this is even possible to determine, but I put zero stock into what ESPN writes except for knowing what my competition will be doing. If Grey's providing significant input that opinion may change. If he's just fielding a couple phone calls/week then I'll continue to look elsewhere.
Wrigley
Mar 26 2008, 09:05 AM
QUOTE (MAC_32 @ Mar 26 2008, 09:58 AM)

QUOTE (Wrigley @ Mar 26 2008, 09:10 AM)

QUOTE (MAC_32 @ Mar 26 2008, 08:35 AM)

QUOTE (Wrigley @ Mar 26 2008, 08:34 AM)

Jason Grey now helps out with the ESPN projections.......so yes, I trust them.
Really? Hmm, how much help does he offer?
HEREQUOTE
Jason Grey is a graduate of the MLB Scouting Bureau's Scout Development Program and has won two Tout Wars titles, one LABR title and numerous other national "experts" competitions.
I've been following what he has to say for several years now......he knows stuff.
Oh no, I know of Grey's background. I want to know how much time he is investing into helping them. I don't know if this is even possible to determine, but I put zero stock into what ESPN writes except for knowing what my competition will be doing. If Grey's providing significant input that opinion may change. If he's just fielding a couple phone calls/week then I'll continue to look elsewhere.
I can't find a link
But I think I read that he's in charge of the West Coast scouting for fantasy baseball.
After looking over the draft kit provided by ESPN, I came away very impressed(much more than years past-but thats not saying much)
I'm sorry to see Jason leave the Mastersball/fantasybaseball.com family.
MAC_32
Mar 26 2008, 09:36 AM
West coast? Got it. Thanks Wrigley.
CicncyKid
Mar 26 2008, 01:34 PM
For instance the top 30 for my league scoring system according to ESPN
:
Alex Rodriguez
, NYY 3B WURZ [ Trade ] 190/602 137 158 27 0 1006 -- 100.0 +0
Matt Holliday
, Col OF [Recent News] TM10 [ Trade ] 210/617 130 140 13 0 937 -- 100.0 +0
Miguel Cabrera
, Det 3B [Breaking News] TM4 [ Trade ] 214/628 120 140 4 0 888 -- 100.0 +0
Chase Utley
, Phi 2B TM10 [ Trade ] 205/639 123 118 13 0 869 -- 100.0 +0
Ryan Braun
, Mil 3B [Recent News] TM10 [ Trade ] 185/619 115 122 19 0 858 -- 100.0 +0
Jimmy Rollins
, Phi SS TM6 [ Trade ] 204/702 132 85 40 0 824 -- 100.0 +0
David Ortiz
, Bos DH TM5 [ Trade ] 176/559 116 126 2 0 821 -- 100.0 +0
Prince Fielder
, Mil 1B WURZ [ Trade ] 160/547 106 129 3 0 809 -- 100.0 +0
Hanley Ramirez
, Fla SS [Recent News] TM10 [ Trade ] 210/656 127 76 53 0 801 -- 100.0 +0
Alfonso Soriano
, ChC OF [Recent News] TM5 [ Trade ] 182/640 113 91 37 0 784 -- 100.0 +0
David Wright
, NYM 3B TM4 [ Trade ] 190/596 107 109 28 0 783 -- 100.0 +0
Grady Sizemore
, Cle OF WURZ [ Trade ] 193/644 126 77 29 0 774 -- 100.0 +0
Ryan Howard
, Phi 1B TM4 [ Trade ] 155/547 96 136 1 0 767 -- 100.0 +0
Adrian Gonzalez
, SD 1B [Breaking News] TM9 [ Trade ] 189/654 109 108 0 0 764 -- 100.0 +0
Mark Teixeira
, Atl 1B TM7 [ Trade ] 177/591 100 121 1 0 763 -- 100.0 +0
Carlos Lee
, Hou OF TM4 [ Trade ] 186/626 95 117 14 0 760 -- 100.0 +0
Aramis Ramirez
, ChC 3B TM10 [ Trade ] 183/591 87 118 0 0 748 -- 100.0 +0
Adam Dunn
, Cin OF WURZ [ Trade ] 141/551 105 110 8 0 731 -- 100.0 +0
Justin Morneau
, Min 1B TM7 [ Trade ] 179/598 89 119 2 0 730 -- 100.0 +0
Dan Uggla
, Fla 2B [Recent News] TM8 [ Trade ] 171/635 112 91 4 0 729 -- 100.0 +0
Curtis Granderson
*, Det OF DL15 [Recent News] TM5 [ Trade ] 172/604 123 72 21 0 724 -- 100.0 +0
Vladimir Guerrero
, LAA OF, DH DTD [Recent News] WURZ [ Trade ] 186/573 91 120 7 0 722 -- 100.0 +0
Troy Tulowitzki
, Col SS [Recent News] WURZ [ Trade ] 181/628 107 99 13 0 720 -- 100.0 +0
Carlos Beltran
, NYM OF DTD TM2 [ Trade ] 150/547 101 108 21 0 719 -- 100.0 +0
Carlos Pena
, TB 1B BFT [ Drop ] 153/563 99 109 1 0 718 -- 100.0 +0
Andruw Jones
, LAD OF TM6 [ Trade ] 142/588 96 115 5 0 709 -- 100.0 +0
Magglio Ordonez
, Det OF TM8 [ Trade ] 185/549 94 113 2 0 708 -- 100.0 +0
Nick Markakis
, Bal OF BFT [ Drop ] 190/619 96 102 13 0 707 -- 100.0 +0
Ryan Zimmerman
, Was 3B [Breaking News] TM5 [ Trade ] 185/631 94 98 6 0 705 -- 100.0 +0
Garrett Atkins
, Col 3B TM7 [ Trade ] 184/591 88 110 3 0 704 -- 100.0 +0
Eephus
Mar 26 2008, 01:39 PM
QUOTE (CicncyKid @ Mar 26 2008, 12:34 PM)

For instance the top 30 for my league scoring system according to ESPN
:
Alex Rodriguez
, NYY 3B WURZ [ Trade ] 190/602 137 158 27 0 1006 -- 100.0 +0
Matt Holliday
, Col OF [Recent News] TM10 [ Trade ] 210/617 130 140 13 0 937 -- 100.0 +0
Miguel Cabrera
, Det 3B [Breaking News] TM4 [ Trade ] 214/628 120 140 4 0 888 -- 100.0 +0
Chase Utley
, Phi 2B TM10 [ Trade ] 205/639 123 118 13 0 869 -- 100.0 +0
SNIP
I guess your scoring system doesn't like SBs
CicncyKid
Mar 26 2008, 01:44 PM
QUOTE (Eephus @ Mar 26 2008, 03:39 PM)

QUOTE (CicncyKid @ Mar 26 2008, 12:34 PM)

For instance the top 30 for my league scoring system according to ESPN
:
Alex Rodriguez
, NYY 3B WURZ [ Trade ] 190/602 137 158 27 0 1006 -- 100.0 +0
Matt Holliday
, Col OF [Recent News] TM10 [ Trade ] 210/617 130 140 13 0 937 -- 100.0 +0
Miguel Cabrera
, Det 3B [Breaking News] TM4 [ Trade ] 214/628 120 140 4 0 888 -- 100.0 +0
Chase Utley
, Phi 2B TM10 [ Trade ] 205/639 123 118 13 0 869 -- 100.0 +0
SNIP
I guess your scoring system doesn't like SBs
1 point for every base (single=1, dbl =1, trip=3, HR=4), 1 point for stolen base, 2 points per run scored, 2 points per RBI, 1 point per HPB, -1 for any fielding error, and 0 points for Base on Balls