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Pictus Cat
I'll update the teams as the form roughly every 12 hours or more.
Discussion of teams and draft picks can go below to keep the draft threads less cluttered.

2.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Tony Romo QB3
15.1 Jeff Tefertiller - C Redman QB31
18.16 Jeff Tefertiller - S Rosenfels HOU QB38
1.1 Jeff Tefertiller - Tomlinson RB1
4.16 Jeff Tefertiller - J Jones RB29
7.1 Jeff Tefertiller - A Bradshaw RB36
10.16 Jeff Tefertiller - S Morris RB48
3.1 Jeff Tefertiller - B Marshall WR11
5.1 Jeff Tefertiller - H Ward WR24
8.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Ron Curry WR47
9.1 Jeff Tefertiller - M Booker WR48
11.1 Jeff Tefertiller - S Smith NYG WR63
19.1 Jeff Tefertiller - M Furrey DET WR92
20.16 Jeff Tefertiller - J Urban ARI WR102
6.16 Jeff Tefertiller - O Daniels TE11
12.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Des Clark TE23
14.16 Jeff Tefertiller - S Graham PK6
16.16 Jeff Tefertiller - D Akers PK15
13.1 Jeff Tefertiller - Cowgirls DST7
17.1 Jeff Tefertiller - Browns DST22

5.2 David Yudkin - Hasselbeck QB7
7.2 David Yudkin - D Garrard QB15
1.2 David Yudkin - A Peterson MIN RB2
6.15 David Yudkin - C Brown RB35
8.15 David Yudkin - Kenny Watson RB42
12.15 David Yudkin - Ricky Williams RB57
15.2 David Yudkin - Kev Jones RB67
2.15 David Yudkin - Chad Johnson WR10
4.15 David Yudkin - J Cotchery WR23
9.2 David Yudkin - Roydell Williams WR49
10.15 David Yudkin - Wilford WR62
11.2 David Yudkin - M Bradley WR64
18.15 David Yudkin - C Jackson NE WR91
3.2 David Yudkin - T Gonzalez TE2
14.15 David Yudkin - E Johnson TE26
16.15 David Yudkin - J Hansen PK14
20.15 David Yudkin - Matt Prater DEN PK32
13.2 David Yudkin - Ravens DST8
17.2 David Yudkin - Bills DST23
19.2 David Yudkin - Lions DST31

5.3 Chaos Commish - McNabb QB8
9.3 Chaos Commish - T Jackson QB24
18.14 Chaos Commish - J McCown MIA QB37
1.3 Chaos Commish - S Jackson RB3
3.3 Chaos Commish - Darren McFadden RB19 Rookie
11.3 Chaos Commish - Chris Johnson RB49 Rookie
12.14 Chaos Commish - M Moore RB56
20.14 Chaos Commish - N Davenport PIT RB80
2.14 Chaos Commish - M Colston WR9
6.14 Chaos Commish - A Gonzalez WR35
7.3 Chaos Commish - S Rice WR36
10.14 Chaos Commish - James Jones WR61
14.14 Chaos Commish - James Hardy WR81 Rookie
19.3 Chaos Commish -M Clayton TB WR92
4.14 Chaos Commish - Dallas Clark TE6
8.14 Chaos Commish - LJ Smith TE15
15.3 Chaos Commish - Bironas PK7
17.3 Chaos Commish - L Tynes NYG PK16
13.3 Chaos Commish - Giants DST9
16.14 Chaos Commish - Broncos DST21

5.4 Sigmund Bloom - D Anderson QB9
7.4 Sigmund Bloom - A Rodgers QB16
1.4 Sigmund Bloom - Westbrook RB4
4.13 Sigmund Bloom - J Stewart RB28 Rookie
6.13 Sigmund Bloom - J Fargas RB34
12.13 Sigmund Bloom - M Forte RB55
19.4 Sigmund Bloom - TJ Duckett SEA RB70
2.13 Sigmund Bllom - Andre Johnson WR8
8.13 Sigmund Bloom - D J Hackett WR 46
9.4 Sigmund Bloom - T Ginn Jr WR50
10.13 Sigmund Bloom - J Gaffney WR60
11.4 Sigmund Bloom - A Randle-EL WR65
14.13 Sigmund Bloom - Devin Thomas WR80 Rookie
15.4 Sigmund Bloom - Dem Williams WR82
20.13 Sigmund Bloom - Early Doucet Rook WR101
3.4 Sigmund Bloom - J Witten TE3
16.13 Sigmund Bloom - J Reed PK13
18.13 Sigmund Bloom - M Gramatica NO PK30
13.4 Sigmund Bloom - Jaguars DST10
17.4 Sigmund Bloom - Jets DST24

5.5 ravnzfan - Cutler QB10
8.12 ravnzfan - J Garcia QB23
1.5 ravnzfan - Addai RB5
3.5 ravnzfan - M Turner RB20
10.12 ravnzfan - J Norwood RB47
13.5 ravnzfan - K Faulk RB58
19.5 ravnzfan - K Smith KC RB71
4.12 ravnzfan - Roddy White WR22
6.12 ravnzfan - Reggie Brown WR35
7.5 ravnzfan - B Berrian WR37
9.5 ravnzfan - Amani Toomer WR51
18.12 ravnzfan - B Smith NYJ WR90
20.12 ravnzfan - R Parrish BUF WR100
2.12 ravnzfan - A Gates TE1
11.5 ravnzfan - B Utecht TE19
12.12 ravnzfan - D Jackson WR73
16.12 ravnzfan - Josh Brown PK12
17.5 ravnzfan - K Brown HOU PK17
14.12 ravnzfan - Tampa Bay Bucs DST12
15.5 ravnzfan - Colts DST13

6.11 Aaron Rudnicki - P Rivers QB14
9.6 Aaron Rudnicki - T Edwards QB25
1.6 Aaron Rudnicki - M Barber RB6
5.6 Aaron Rudnicki - F Taylor RB30
3.6 Aaron Rudnicki - E James RB21
17.6 Aaron Rudnicki - J Wright RB69 Browns
19.6 Aaron Rudnicki - F Jackson BUF RB72
2.11 Aaron Rudnicki - TJ Housh WR7
4.11 Aaron Rudnicki - Lee Evans WR21
8.11 Aaron Rudnicki - I Bruce WR45
10.11 Aaron Rudnicki - S McDonald WR59
13.6 Aaron Rudnicki - Dennis Nortcutt WR74
15.6 Aaron Rudnicki - L Moore WR83
20.11 Aaron Rudnicki - M Manningham Rook WR99
7.6 Aaron Rudnicki - H Miller TE12
11.6 Aaron Rudnicki - M Lewis TE20
12.11 Aaron Rudnicki - Seahawks DST6
14.11 Aaron Rudnicki - Gostkowski PK5
18.11 Aaron Rudnicki - O Mare SEA PK29
16.11 Aaron Rudnicki - Panthers DST20

6.10 rzrback77 - J K itna QB13
8.10 rzrback77 - JaMarcus Russell QB22
16.10 rzrback77 - J Beck QB34
1.7 rzrback77 - Portis RB7
2.10 rzrback77 - J Lewis RB18
14.10 rzrback77 - L Betts RB66
19.7 rzrback77 - D Ward RB, NYG RB73
3.7 rzrback77 - T Holt WR12
4.10 rzrback77 - Greg Jennings WR20
7.7 rzrback77 - V Jackson WR38
10.10 rzrback77 - D Patten WR58
11.7 rzrback77 - R Meacham WR66
12.10 rzrback77 - A Bryant WR72
20.10 rzrback77 - Andre Davis HOU WR98
5.7 rzrback77 - T Heap TE7
9.7 rzrback77 - G Olsen TE16
17.7 rzrback77 - M Stover BAL PK18
18.10 rzrback77 - J Feely MIA PK28
13.7 rzrback77 - Packers DST11
15.7 rzrback77 - Eagles DST14

5.8 Frank Black - E Manning QB11
7.8 Frank Black - Delhomme QB17
1.8 Frank Black - Gore RB8
4.9 Frank Black - DeAngelo Williams RB27
10.9 Frank Black - L Washington RB46
13.8 Frank Black - DeShaun Foster RB59
19.8 Frank Black - L Jordan OAK RB74
20.9 Frank Black - M Morris SEA RB79
2.9 Frank Black - Fitzgerald WR6
3.8 Frank Black - Welker WR13
6.9 Frank Black - K Curtis WR34
9.8 Frank Black - Reggie Williams WR52
12.9 Frank Black - M Muhammad WR71
14.9 Frank Black - Jacoby Jones WR79
16.9 Frank Black - Jenkins WR87
8.9 Frank Black - Donald Lee TE14
11.8 Frank Black - K Boss TE21
17.8 Frank Black - R Longwell MIN PK19
18.9 Frank Black - Jason Elam DEN PK27
15.8 Frank Black - Titans DST15

4.8 Thom Yorke - B Roethlisberger QB6
9.9 Thom Yorke - Clemmens QB26
19.9 Thom Yorke - C Pennington NYJ QB39
2.8 Thom Yorke - Ronnie Brown RB17
7.9 Thom Yorke - C Benson RB37
10.8 Thom Yorke - Ah Green RB45
11.9 Thom Yorke - P Thomas RB50
13.9 Thom Yorke - Lorenzo Booker RB60
1.9 Thom Yorke - Randy Moss WR1
5.9 Thom Yorke - C Chambers WR25
6.8 Thom Yorke - M Harrison WR33
8.8 Thom Yorke - Crayton WR44
14.8 Thom Yorke - B Wade WR78
15.9 Thom Yorke - I Hilliard WR84
3.9 Thom Yorke - K Winslow TE4
20.8 Thom Yorke - B Scaife TEN TE29
17.9 Thom Yorke - J Kasay CAR PK20
18.8 Thom Yorke - R Lindell BUF PK26
12.8 Thom Yorke - Steelers DST5
16.8 Thom Yorke - 49ers DST19

5.10 Orgazmo - Bulger QB12
7.10 Orgazmo - Schaub QB18
18.7 Orgazmo - B Quinn CLE QB37
1.10 Orgazmo - L Johnson RB9
4.7 Orgazmo - B Jacobs RB26
11.10 Orgazmo - M Bush RB51
13.10 Orgazmo - Chris Henry RB61
16.7 Orgazmo - K Smith RB68 Rookie
2.07 Orgazmo - Steve Smith WR5, Car
3.10 Orgazmo - Burress WR14
8.7 Orgazmo - Mark Clayton WR43
10.7 Orgazmo - B Stokely WR57
15.10 Orgazmo - D Darling WR85
19.10 Orgazmo - N Washington PIT WR93
6.7 Orgazmo - V Davis TE10
9.10 Orgazmo - Z Miller TE17
14.7 Orgazmo - Vinatieri PK4
20.7 Orgazmo - T Mehlhaff Rook PK31
12.7 Orgazmo - Vikings DST4
17.10 Orgazmo - Redskins DST25

7.11 Coin Flip - J Campbell QB19
9.11 Coin Flip - Drew Stanton QB27
1.11 Coin Flip - M Lynch RB10
3.11 Coin Flip - E Graham RB22
4.6 Coin Flip - L White RB25
10.6 Coin Flip - Ray Rice RB44 Rookie
11.11 Coin Flip - B Jackson RB52
12.6 Coin Flip - J Charles RB54 Rookie
13.11 Coin Flip - JJ Arrington RB62
2.06 Coin Flip - B Edwards WR4
5.11 Coin Flip - L Coles WR26
6.6 Coin Flip - San Moss WR32
18.6 Coin Flip - J Reed BUF WR89
20.6 Coin Flip qaz qaz- K Colbert DEN WR97
8.6 Coin Flip - Crumpler TE13
19.11 Coin Flip qaz qaz - V Shiancoe MIN TE27
14.6 Coin Flip - Gould PK3
15.11 Coin Flip - J Nedney SF PK21
16.6 Coin Flip - Saints DST27
17.11 Coin Flip - Bengals DST28

2.5 restless natives - P Manning QB2
9.12 restless natives - Alex Smith QB28
1.12 restless natives - MJ Drew RB11
6.5 restless natives - C Taylor RB33
8.5 restless natives - D McAllister RB41
19.12 restless natives - T Choice Rook RB75
20.5 restless natives - B Leonard SL RB78
3.12 restless natives - Roy Williams WR15
5.12 restless natives - D Mason WR27
7.12 restless natives - J Porter WR39
10.5 restless natives - K Walter WR56
13.12 restless natives - Desean Jackson WR75
15.12 restless natives - Derek Hagan WR86
18.5 restless natives - M Jones JAC WR88
4.5 restless natives - C Cooley TE5
11.12 restless natives - McMichael TE22
16.5 restless natives - Rackers PK11
14.5 restless natives - Folk PK2
12.5 restless natives - Patriots DST3
17.12 restless natives - Chiefs DST26

4.4 Shadowfax - D Brees QB5
7.13 Shadowfax - V Young QB20
1.13 Shadowfax - R Bush RB12
5.13 Shadowfax - Rudi Johnson RB31
10.4 Shadowfax - Felix Jones RB43 Rookie
14.4 Shadowfax - W Dunn RB65
19.13 Shadowfax - Adrian Peterson CHI RB76
2.4 Shadowfax - R Wayne WR3
3.13 Shadowfax - A Boldin WR16
8.4 Shadowfax - N Burleson WR42
9.13 Shadowfax - Bryant Johnson WR53
11.13 Shadowfax - D Hester WR67
12.4 Shadowfax - J Gage WR70
20.4 Shadowfax - D Carter OAK WR96
6.4 Shadowfax - T Scheffler TE9
13.13 Shadowfax - Jeff King TE24
16.4 Shadowfax - Scobee PK10
18.4 Shadowfax - M Bryant CLE PK25
15.13 Shadowfax - Raiders DST16
17.13 Shadowfax - Dolphins DST29

8.3 prymetyme25 - M Lienart QB21
9.14 prymetyme25 - Matt Ryan QB29
15.14 prymetyme25 - B Croyle QB32
1.14 prymetyme25 - Fast Willie Parker RB13
2.3 prymetyme25 - Mahoney RB16
5.14 prymetyme25 - T Henry RB32
7.14 prymetyme25 - S Young RB38
13.14 prymetyme25 - Mike Hart RB63 Rookie
3.14 prymetyme25 - Calvin Johnson WR17
4.3 prymetyme25 - D Bowe WR19
6.3 prymetyme25 - Javon Walker WR31
11.14 prymetyme25 - L Robinson WR68
12.3 prymetyme25 - L Sweed WR69 Rookie
14.3 prymetyme25 - M Kelley WR77 Rookie
10.3 prymetyme25 - B Watson TE18
19.14 prymetyme25 - M Bennett Rook TE28
17.14 prymetyme25 - Janikowski OAK PK22
18.3 prymetyme25 - M Nugent NYJ PK24
16.3 prymetyme25 - Texans DST18
20.3 prymetyme25 -Falcons DST32

4.2 Pictus Cat - C Palmer QB4
9.15 Pictus Cat - R Grossman QB30
15.15 Pictus Cat - Warner QB33
1.15 Pictus Cat - R Grant RB14
3.15 Pictus Cat - Thomas Jones RB23
11.15 Pictus Cat - K Keith RB53
14.2 Pictus Cat - D Sproles RB64
2.2 Pictus Cat - T Owens WR2
6.2 Pictus Cat - Joey Galloway - WR30
7.15 Pictus Cat - D Stallworth WR40
8.2 Pictus Cat - D Branch WR41
10.2 Pictus Cat - D Bennett WR55
19.15 Pictus Cat - B Obomanu SEA WR94
20.2 Pictus Cat - A Chatman CIN WR96
5.15 Pictus Cat - J Shockey TE8
13.15 Pictus Cat - L Pope TE25
16.2 Pictus Cat - Kaeding PK9
17.15 Pictus Cat - Suisham, WAS PK23
12.2 Pictus Cat - Bears DST2
18.2 Pictus Cat - Rams DST30

2.1 Aposulli - Tom Brady QB1
17.16 Aposulli & Supporters - K Boller BAL QB35
18.1 Aposulli & Supporters - T Smith BAL QB36
1.16 Aposulli - W McGahee RB15
3.16 Aposulli - R Mendenhall RB24 Rookie
7.16 Aposulli - S Alexander RB39
8.1 Aposulli - Tatum Bell RB40
19.16 Aposulli & Supporters - Correll Buckhalter PHI RB77
4.1 Aposulli - S Holmes WR18
5.16 Aposulli - B Engram WR28
6.1 Aposulli - D Driver WR29
10.1 Aposulli - A Battle WR54
13.16 Aposulli - JJur-WR76
20.1 Aposulli & Supporters - T Williamson JAC WR95
11.16 Aposulli - ASmith-TE26
12.01 Aposulli - CBaker-TE27
14.01 Aposulli - Crosby--K1
16.1 Aposulli & Supporters- Dawson PK 8 2-hour clock
15.16 Aposulli & Supporters- Cardinals DST17 2-hour clock
9.16 Aposulli - Chargers DST1
Pictus Cat
Links for PMing next drafter
Maybe a Staffer/Moderator can put the PM links in Razors draft threads.

1.1 Jeff Tefertiller
1.2 David Yudkin
1.3 Chaos Commish
1.4 Sigmund Bloom
1.5 ravnzfan
1.6 Aaron Rudnicki
1.7 rzrback77
1.8 Frank Black
1.9 Thom Yorke
1.10 Orgazmo
1.11 Coin Flip
1.12 restless natives
1.13 Shadowfax
1.14 prymetyme25
1.15 Pictus Cat
1.16 Aposulli
Pictus Cat
Shadowfax has Bush at 1.13 in PPR and that avatar, pretty lucky I think.
Brady, 17th overall...where should he go this year?
Shadowfax
QUOTE (Pictus Cat @ Mar 30 2008, 02:56 PM) *
Shadowfax has Bush at 1.13 in PPR and that avatar, pretty lucky I think.
Brady, 17th overall...where should he go this year?



I was all set to go another route this league...either QB/WR or WR/WR but couldn't pass on Bush in a PPR league at 13.

Now, if I can just track down my avatar.... peep.gif
Thom Yorke
Pretty brutal pace today after a good start. kicksrock4.gif
rzrback77
We're kicking back ino gear in day three. Really concerned about starting RB-RB, but not so much after grabbing T Holt for my WR #1 at 3.7.
Frank Black
Holt was a nice pick and I was set to pair him up with Fitz until you snagged him 1 pick before my pick. Instead I agonized between Welker and a couple of other WRs until I concluded that Welker was the safer pick, although I don't expect last year's numbers.
restless natives
well i am loving the start to my team

Manning

MJD

Roy Williams

pretty good start for me

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Shadowfax
QUOTE (restless natives @ Apr 1 2008, 04:20 PM) *
well i am loving the start to my team

Manning

MJD

Roy Williams

pretty good start for me

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Not to rain on anyone's parade...but I'm sure most like the start of their team after 3 rounds or so. The next couple rounds will really start to define the teams.
Frank Black
QUOTE (Shadowfax @ Apr 1 2008, 09:18 PM) *
QUOTE (restless natives @ Apr 1 2008, 04:20 PM) *
well i am loving the start to my team

Manning

MJD

Roy Williams

pretty good start for me

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Not to rain on anyone's parade...but I'm sure most like the start of their team after 3 rounds or so. The next couple rounds will really start to define the teams.


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Except that I'm not overly excited about my start because I know that Welker will not have the same #s as last year. Yet, in a PPR league he's a steady producer. Some weeks he will put up #1 numbers.
Jeff Tefertiller
I would feel much better about my start if either Chad Johnson or Colston would have fallen just a little further.
Pictus Cat
Grant, TO, TJones is not inspiring me relative to some of the better first three.

Teams updated.
restless natives
Chris Cooley isn't exactly one of the elite TEs but he wouldnt have come back to me and i want one of the better TEs in the league
Orgazmo
QUOTE (restless natives @ Apr 2 2008, 11:06 AM) *
Chris Cooley isn't exactly one of the elite TEs but he wouldnt have come back to me and i want one of the better TEs in the league

And I'll be happy to draft once you put him back.

Until then...

EMBARGO!
rzrback77
QUOTE (Orgazmo @ Apr 2 2008, 11:16 AM) *
QUOTE (restless natives @ Apr 2 2008, 11:06 AM) *
Chris Cooley isn't exactly one of the elite TEs but he wouldnt have come back to me and i want one of the better TEs in the league

And I'll be happy to draft once you put him back.

Until then...

EMBARGO!


sorry, no trades.
Pictus Cat
QUOTE (Shadowfax @ Apr 2 2008, 11:55 AM) *
Hoping Palmer would slide...now I'll gamble and double up on Saints.

4.04 QB Drew Brees


Glad I could help, Front Runner.
Shadowfax
QUOTE (restless natives @ Apr 2 2008, 10:06 AM) *
Chris Cooley isn't exactly one of the elite TEs but he wouldnt have come back to me and i want one of the better TEs in the league



I almost went with Cooley but I really never draft a QB early...so I decided to try a different approach.

Shadowfax
QUOTE (Pictus Cat @ Apr 2 2008, 10:51 AM) *
QUOTE (Shadowfax @ Apr 2 2008, 11:55 AM) *
Hoping Palmer would slide...now I'll gamble and double up on Saints.

4.04 QB Drew Brees


Glad I could help, Front Runner.




Just wait until I get to my middle round picks.

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Chaos Commish
I don't know about anyone else, but deciding what position to address is making me crazy.
rzrback77
QUOTE (Chaos Commish @ Apr 2 2008, 08:37 PM) *
I don't know about anyone else, but deciding what position to address is making me crazy.




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Sixteen team drafts are very tough. Its almost always a difficult choice from round to round what need is most urgent. But its fun!
Shadowfax
QUOTE (rzrback77 @ Apr 2 2008, 07:55 PM) *
QUOTE (Chaos Commish @ Apr 2 2008, 08:37 PM) *
I don't know about anyone else, but deciding what position to address is making me crazy.




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Sixteen team drafts are very tough. Its almost always a difficult choice from round to round what need is most urgent. But its fun!



I haven't found being in the middle as bad but near the ends it definitely is a struggle deciding which direction to go, as you can get royally screwed watching a run on a position and you have 25+ picks until your next turn. I've been doing these for 5-6 years and I still seem to guess wrong a lot of times.

But it does make it fun and challenging.

rzrback77
I think a healthy Heap is a bargain. He had played 16 games in two or three years in a row before last year's debacle. What do y'all think of Todd HEap for 09?
Sigmund Bloom
QUOTE (rzrback77 @ Apr 3 2008, 08:06 AM) *
I think a healthy Heap is a bargain. He had played 16 games in two or three years in a row before last year's debacle. What do y'all think of Todd HEap for 09?


If I would have known I could get Heap at 5.04, I might not have taken Witten (who I have as the #1 TE) at 3.04 - that's how much I like him for this year. We know now that the hammy was torn, he wasn't being a wuss, and as you say, his record of playing all 16 games in a season is much better than people think. Heap is perceived as an injury risk, because he seems to always be on the injury report, and he's had a lot of surgeries in the offseason, but he plays through the pain. The only real worry I have about him is the possibility that the passing O goes in the crapper because we are either watching Troy Smith get schooled, Kyle Boller play his mediocre brand of football, or Steve McNair start to put the other foot in the football grave.
Thom Yorke
Nice work on running through a bunch of picks last night/this morning thumbup1.gif
rzrback77
QUOTE (Sigmund Bloom @ Apr 3 2008, 08:10 AM) *
QUOTE (rzrback77 @ Apr 3 2008, 08:06 AM) *
I think a healthy Heap is a bargain. He had played 16 games in two or three years in a row before last year's debacle. What do y'all think of Todd HEap for 09?


If I would have known I could get Heap at 5.04, I might not have taken Witten (who I have as the #1 TE) at 3.04 - that's how much I like him for this year. We know now that the hammy was torn, he wasn't being a wuss, and as you say, his record of playing all 16 games in a season is much better than people think. Heap is perceived as an injury risk, because he seems to always be on the injury report, and he's had a lot of surgeries in the offseason, but he plays through the pain. The only real worry I have about him is the possibility that the passing O goes in the crapper because we are either watching Troy Smith get schooled, Kyle Boller play his mediocre brand of football, or Steve McNair start to put the other foot in the football grave.



I was hoping to get Witten in the 3rd, but like Heap in the fifth almost as well. I am of the thought that an ineffective or struggling QB is not a bad thing for a really good TE as he can get him the ball easier than the WRs. Anyway, hope he's healthy and thanks for the comments.
rzrback77
QUOTE (Thom Yorke @ Apr 3 2008, 08:41 AM) *
Nice work on running through a bunch of picks last night/this morning thumbup1.gif



I meant to comment on that quick turn by the top of the draft, but got slowed down by all the copying for the new thread. I do agree that y'all did great work on that.
Jeff Tefertiller
I have to say I like Yudkin's team a lot. He, imo, was able to grab Chad Johnson and Cotchery as last receivers of their respective tiers. I am not terribly happy with my team. One of those drafts where you feel like you are chasing value with each pick. Here is to hoping for a huge year by LT and Romo to cover up mediocre years by some of the rest.
rzrback77
QUOTE (Jeff Tefertiller @ Apr 3 2008, 09:50 AM) *
I have to say I like Yudkin's team a lot. He, imo, was able to grab Chad Johnson and Cotchery as last receivers of their respective tiers. I am not terribly happy with my team. One of those drafts where you feel like you are chasing value with each pick. Here is to hoping for a huge year by LT and Romo to cover up mediocre years by some of the rest.



I do like his start, but its a long way back to him and his only RB is one who shared opportunities last year. Granted he made trememdous results out of his chances, but if he continues to share? We are already at RB30 and its still 20 some odd picks till it returns to the top.

We only have four owners that have one RB at this point. Thoughts? Concerns or not?
David Yudkin
QUOTE (rzrback77 @ Apr 3 2008, 03:03 PM) *
QUOTE (Jeff Tefertiller @ Apr 3 2008, 09:50 AM) *
I have to say I like Yudkin's team a lot. He, imo, was able to grab Chad Johnson and Cotchery as last receivers of their respective tiers. I am not terribly happy with my team. One of those drafts where you feel like you are chasing value with each pick. Here is to hoping for a huge year by LT and Romo to cover up mediocre years by some of the rest.



I do like his start, but its a long way back to him and his only RB is one who shared opportunities last year. Granted he made trememdous results out of his chances, but if he continues to share? We are already at RB30 and its still 20 some odd picks till it returns to the top.

We only have four owners that have one RB at this point. Thoughts? Concerns or not?

I don't disagree, but the name of the game is scoring the most points (especially in a league like this).There are still a few players I would not mind having, and bear in mind that after the first couple of tiers of running backs the scoring differential of the next big crop of players is not all that great. So basically the difference in Top 10 scoring is probably greater than the bandwidth for the next 30+ running backs. Factor in the PPR scoring system and other positions seemed more likely to benefit my team than a so-so RB.

Also bear in mind the history that a large percentage of Day 1 starters lose their jobs or get hurt as the season progresses. Add in the fact that there will be rookies added to the mix, so guys projected as starters could suddenly become backups and some of the available RB options were not that appealing.

I generally am strongest in taking proven players that fall to me early and then hitting on some folks that do way better than expected in the middle rounds. Last year, for example, people said I drafted too many RBs and had terrible WRs because of it. But I ended up hitting on Mason (ranked 14th), Crayton (35th) , and Walter (31st) to go with Colston.

Obviously we need to wait until the draft plays out to see how the treams stack up (and how things look in September or December will be way different than in April).
rzrback77
QUOTE (David Yudkin @ Apr 3 2008, 10:45 AM) *
QUOTE (rzrback77 @ Apr 3 2008, 03:03 PM) *
QUOTE (Jeff Tefertiller @ Apr 3 2008, 09:50 AM) *
I have to say I like Yudkin's team a lot. He, imo, was able to grab Chad Johnson and Cotchery as last receivers of their respective tiers. I am not terribly happy with my team. One of those drafts where you feel like you are chasing value with each pick. Here is to hoping for a huge year by LT and Romo to cover up mediocre years by some of the rest.



I do like his start, but its a long way back to him and his only RB is one who shared opportunities last year. Granted he made trememdous results out of his chances, but if he continues to share? We are already at RB30 and its still 20 some odd picks till it returns to the top.

We only have four owners that have one RB at this point. Thoughts? Concerns or not?

I don't disagree, but the name of the game is scoring the most points (especially in a league like this).There are still a few players I would not mind having, and bear in mind that after the first couple of tiers of running backs the scoring differential of the next big crop of players is not all that great. So basically the difference in Top 10 scoring is probably greater than the bandwidth for the next 30+ running backs. Factor in the PPR scoring system and other positions seemed more likely to benefit my team than a so-so RB.

Also bear in mind the history that a large percentage of Day 1 starters lose their jobs or get hurt as the season progresses. Add in the fact that there will be rookies added to the mix, so guys projected as starters could suddenly become backups and some of the available RB options were not that appealing.

I generally am strongest in taking proven players that fall to me early and then hitting on some folks that do way better than expected in the middle rounds. Last year, for example, people said I drafted too many RBs and had terrible WRs because of it. But I ended up hitting on Mason (ranked 14th), Crayton (35th) , and Walter (31st) to go with Colston.

Obviously we need to wait until the draft plays out to see how the treams stack up (and how things look in September or December will be way different than in April).


All good unless your lone RB is one of those that get hurt, since he's definitely not in the possible lose your job category. Well put response and I hope that I can get some of those lower selected WRs that come up large.
Chaos Commish
Are these drafts dead on weekends or do I need to stay tuned? Is there a clock? I thought I read something about a clock.
Orgazmo
QUOTE (Chaos Commish @ Apr 4 2008, 08:34 PM) *
Are these drafts dead on weekends or do I need to stay tuned? Is there a clock? I thought I read something about a clock.

I understand the clock continues but is stopped between midnight and 8am (EDT I assume) per usual.
Jeff Tefertiller
QUOTE (Orgazmo @ Apr 4 2008, 09:37 PM) *
QUOTE (Chaos Commish @ Apr 4 2008, 08:34 PM) *
Are these drafts dead on weekends or do I need to stay tuned? Is there a clock? I thought I read something about a clock.

I understand the clock continues but is stopped between midnight and 8am (EDT I assume) per usual.



I think this is right. Chaos, I would think there is very little chance it makes it back to your pick before Sunday, maybe Monday.
Blue-Kun
Favorite teams:
Yudkin
ravnzfan
restless natives

Teams I think have a lot of potential depending on later picks:
Thom Yorke
Bloom
prymetyme25

Teams I just don't get:
Aposulli
Coin Flip
restless natives
Manning

MJD, C. Taylor, D. McCallister

R. Williams, D. Mason, J Porter

C. Cooley

Deuce was to big of value to still be sitting there in the 8th. 3 #1 recievers on my team. A top 5 TE and one of the bestQBs in the game. Don't think I could be any happier with my team at this point. blackdot.gif I haven't had to go fish2.gif with any of my picks yet.


Looks like the teams to beat thru 7picks are:

Ruds
Rzr
Restless
Thom Yorke
QUOTE (Blue-Kun @ Apr 6 2008, 06:20 PM) *
Favorite teams:
Yudkin
ravnzfan
restless natives

Teams I think have a lot of potential depending on later picks:
Thom Yorke
Bloom
prymetyme25

Teams I just don't get:
Aposulli
Coin Flip


Thanks. I think I should just be honest and say that I have no idea where my team is going. I think that is because this is the first time I have been in the middle of a survivor league draft here; inevitably, I wind up at the very top or bottom. Once I took Moss in the first round, I knew I was in for a wild ride.
Chaos Commish
What is PDSL?
rzrback77
QUOTE (Chaos Commish @ Apr 8 2008, 04:55 PM) *
What is PDSL?


Pre Draft Survivor League, one of many FBG Mock Draft Forum leagues. Earliest is WSL (Winter Survivor), then PDSL, then SSL (Spring Survivor) right after the NFL Draft and it seems like one more. White Elephant is too much for me, where player steals and repicks are allowed.
Chaos Commish
QUOTE (rzrback77 @ Apr 8 2008, 04:59 PM) *
QUOTE (Chaos Commish @ Apr 8 2008, 04:55 PM) *
What is PDSL?


Pre Draft Survivor League, one of many FBG Mock Draft Forum leagues. Earliest is WSL (Winter Survivor), then PDSL, then SSL (Spring Survivor) right after the NFL Draft and it seems like one more. White Elephant is too much for me, where player steals and repicks are allowed.


Oh, I thought it might be pretty damn slow league. Thanks for the info.
rzrback77
QUOTE (Chaos Commish @ Apr 8 2008, 06:16 PM) *
QUOTE (rzrback77 @ Apr 8 2008, 04:59 PM) *
QUOTE (Chaos Commish @ Apr 8 2008, 04:55 PM) *
What is PDSL?


Pre Draft Survivor League, one of many FBG Mock Draft Forum leagues. Earliest is WSL (Winter Survivor), then PDSL, then SSL (Spring Survivor) right after the NFL Draft and it seems like one more. White Elephant is too much for me, where player steals and repicks are allowed.


Oh, I thought it might be pretty damn slow league. Thanks for the info.


pigskinp.gif and we are #1
Pictus Cat
Looking for a pattern to my swearing problem..


1.13 Shadowfax - R Bush RB12 This is where it starts.

1.15 Pictus Cat - R Grant RB14
2.2 Pictus Cat - T Owens WR2

2.10 rzrback77 - J Lewis RB18
2.13 Sigmund Bllom - Andre Johnson WR8
2.14 Chaos Commish - M Colston WR9
2.15 David Yudkin - Chad Johnson WR10
3.1 Jeff Tefertiller - B Marshall WR11
3.4 Sigmund Bloom - J Witten TE3
3.9 Thom Yorke - K Winslow TE4
3.11 Coin Flip - E Graham RB22
3.13 Shadowfax - A Boldin WR16 Team jobbed me pretty good

3.15 Pictus Cat - Thomas Jones RB23 Rd 3 risky, NYJ running game could be huge

4.1 Aposulli - S Holmes WR18
4.2 Pictus Cat - C Palmer QB4 QB value, but uncomfortably early 4 me, value sucked right out of 2 & 3

4.10 rzrback77 - Greg Jennings WR20
4.15 David Yudkin - J Cotchery WR23 Was him Or TJ at 3.15
5.12 restless natives - D Mason WR27

5.15 Pictus Cat - J Shockey TE8

6.1 Aposulli - D Driver WR29

6.2 Pictus Cat - Galloway WR30

6.8 Thom Yorke - M Harrison WR33
6.11 Aaron Rudnicki - P Rivers QB14
6.14 Chaos Commish - A Gonzalez WR35
7.10 Orgazmo - Schaub QB18
7.13 Shadowfax - V Young QB20 Looking at these guys, but Stallworth might keep up

7.15 Pictus Cat - D Stallworth WR40
8.2 Pictus Cat - D Branch WR41

8.12 ravnzfan - J Garcia QB23 Hoping for 10th Pick
9.7 rzrback77 - G Olsen TE16 Hoping for 10th Pick

9.13 Shadowfax - Bryant Johnson WR53
turns into my last pick, Rex Grossman.

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Shadowfax
QUOTE (Pictus Cat @ Apr 8 2008, 11:26 PM) *
Looking for a pattern to my swearing problem..


1.13 Shadowfax - R Bush RB12 This is where it starts.

1.15 Pictus Cat - R Grant RB14
2.2 Pictus Cat - T Owens WR2

2.10 rzrback77 - J Lewis RB18
2.13 Sigmund Bllom - Andre Johnson WR8
2.14 Chaos Commish - M Colston WR9
2.15 David Yudkin - Chad Johnson WR10
3.1 Jeff Tefertiller - B Marshall WR11
3.4 Sigmund Bloom - J Witten TE3
3.9 Thom Yorke - K Winslow TE4
3.11 Coin Flip - E Graham RB22
3.13 Shadowfax - A Boldin WR16 Team jobbed me pretty good

3.15 Pictus Cat - Thomas Jones RB23 Rd 3 risky, NYJ running game could be huge

4.1 Aposulli - S Holmes WR18
4.2 Pictus Cat - C Palmer QB4 QB value, but uncomfortably early 4 me, value sucked right out of 2 & 3

4.10 rzrback77 - Greg Jennings WR20
4.15 David Yudkin - J Cotchery WR23 Was him Or TJ at 3.15
5.12 restless natives - D Mason WR27

5.15 Pictus Cat - J Shockey TE8

6.1 Aposulli - D Driver WR29

6.2 Pictus Cat - Galloway WR30

6.8 Thom Yorke - M Harrison WR33
6.11 Aaron Rudnicki - P Rivers QB14
6.14 Chaos Commish - A Gonzalez WR35
7.10 Orgazmo - Schaub QB18
7.13 Shadowfax - V Young QB20 Looking at these guys, but Stallworth might keep up

7.15 Pictus Cat - D Stallworth WR40
8.2 Pictus Cat - D Branch WR41

8.12 ravnzfan - J Garcia QB23 Hoping for 10th Pick
9.7 rzrback77 - G Olsen TE16 Hoping for 10th Pick

9.13 Shadowfax - Bryant Johnson WR53
turns into my last pick, Rex Grossman.

furious.gif furious.gif furious.gif furious.gif



laughing.gif I've had plenty of drafts in your shoes.

Looks like I need to revisit what I did wrong in the 5th round though.
rzrback77
My team is a little unusual for me at this point. I have usually added RB depth by this time and have never taken two TEs as early as I did before. I think that resulted from my waiting on QB which is common and realizing that I did not like as many this off-season. So, with an elderly Kitna that might lose his job mid-season with a new coaching regime, I went with a guy that I see as playing all year. Russell's results may not be top line, but I think that he will play. He is strong and I am hoping no injury. SO the two compliment each other, an older vet who will start the year, but might not finish and a young gun that should improve as the year goes on.

Similarly, even though I have high hopes for Heap, he has a couple years pretty much lost to injury. I thought he was value where I got him at 5.7, but also with the Ravens QB issues, felt obliged to back him up with a solid option and there were few left in the ninth.

The entire group has restrained from the defense and kicker selections with only one defense gone as we are in the middle of the tenth. That will change soon and we'll have a massive run.

A quick review of the teams looks like a lot of equality out there. So, other than the speed, its been a solid draft thus far.
rzrback77
In the twelth and now we are into the DST mode. I hadn't noticed, but Shadow brought it to my attention that Coin Flip has six RBs through the twelfth round. That is rather unusual.

Still slow going. Really hoping that we can finish bu next Friday, although not looking likely.
Chaos Commish
QUOTE (rzrback77 @ Apr 12 2008, 12:40 PM) *
Still slow going. Really hoping that we can finish bu next Friday, although not looking likely.


If this was my crew, I would try to schedule a meeting. I hate afternoon meetings. I say we get together first thing Tuesday morning and discuss this business (while we roll through a round or two). We should have a Friday morning meeting too. I always like Friday meetings. I'll bring coffee, the good stuff from Kona. Someone else get the danish.
rzrback77
QUOTE (Chaos Commish @ Apr 12 2008, 02:00 PM) *
QUOTE (rzrback77 @ Apr 12 2008, 12:40 PM) *
Still slow going. Really hoping that we can finish bu next Friday, although not looking likely.


If this was my crew, I would try to schedule a meeting. I hate afternoon meetings. I say we get together first thing Tuesday morning and discuss this business (while we roll through a round or two). We should have a Friday morning meeting too. I always like Friday meetings. I'll bring coffee, the good stuff from Kona. Someone else get the danish.



That would be great, but it takes all 16 to function. I'm all for progress though as I am leaving a week from today for a 3-day business trip followed by three days of vacation.
Pictus Cat
QUOTE (rzrback77 @ Apr 13 2008, 08:16 AM) *
My decision related to the skipping of Aposulli and the continuation of the draft. We will not proceed beyond him a second time. When he comes up next time, IF HE HASN'T PICKED BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, someone (possibly me) will make selections for him and either someone will be selected to fill in or we will make picks for him by committee, with volunteers making his picks each round.

I just feel like the loss to his team will be minimal this late in the draft and the rest of us who are fulfulling our committment have been delayed enough.

Please post in the team discussion thread if you would be willing to make a couple of selections for Aposulli's team and I will decide the order of who will pick.


Sure, I'll make some picks. Heh, heh...

teamramrod, maybe? I think he was too late to the party and isn't in a PDSL, but was last in the sign up thread.
Jeff Tefertiller
Hey guys, I will be around all next week for PMs in hopes of expediting things.
rzrback77
Update on plans for Aposulli's picks. I sent an invitation to teamramrod to take over. If he wants to he will jump in anytime and make two picks and by so doing will take over. If nobody jumps in and make picks for him, when we return to Aposulli's spot PLEASE PM ravnzfan who will make the four picks (11,12, 13, and 14th rounds) then due. One of which must be a TE.

When that slot comes up again at 15th and 16th, I will make the selections.

Jeff T will make the ones for 17 and 18 and I will continue to seek volunteers for the remaining picks, if teamramrod does not take over.

Thanks for the input and let's pick up the pace.
Jeff Tefertiller
QUOTE (rzrback77 @ Apr 14 2008, 10:33 AM) *
Update on plans for Aposulli's picks. I sent an invitation to teamramrod to take over. If he wants to he will jump in anytime and make two picks and by so doing will take over. If nobody jumps in and make picks for him, when we return to Aposulli's spot PLEASE PM ravnzfan who will make the four picks (11,12, 13, and 14th rounds) then due. One of which must be a TE.

When that slot comes up again at 15th and 16th, I will make the selections.

Jeff T will make the ones for 17 and 18 and I will continue to seek volunteers for the remaining picks, if teamramrod does not take over.

Thanks for the input and let's pick up the pace.



Happy to help.
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