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whitem0nkey
They score two more runs in the series but we still won.

The next 4 games should be tough; Tampa's home record is 20-9.

When the season started everybody circled May 29th on the calendar and was waiting to see the 1st place rays vs. the 1st place white sox.

Well the long wait is over. Let the Titans of baseball battle it out!

Also the rest of June looks like an easy part in the schedule. Aside from the rays, and dodgers it’s easy.
whitem0nkey
did you guys get to see the cubs ####udome new picture?

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c114/Whi...orts/whdsa9.png
Widbil83
Da Rays are in trouble! w00t.gif
Green94
Pauly and Thome hitting, wow.

Tough to lose when everything is clicking... Danks with another solid outing.
urbanhack
QUOTE (Green94 @ May 29 2008, 08:33 PM) *
Danks with another solid outing.

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Power Monster
Sweet victory! Crede and PK are the keys to the season as well as the health of the team.

Let's see if Jose can keep up his solid pitching.
whitem0nkey
the sox won 16-7 in their last 23 games and they beat a tampa tean that was 17-2 at home in their last 19 games.

and our pen has not allow a run in 29 innings.

this has been a real fun 1 third of a season so far.
Limp Ditka
Including his first AB tonight Alexei is now .304 / .319 / .413 since Uribe went on the DL

He better keep this 2B job.

urbanhack
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SuperAwesomeDude
QUOTE (whitem0nkey @ May 30 2008, 11:05 AM) *
the sox won 16-7 in their last 23 games and they beat a tampa tean that was 17-2 at home in their last 19 games.

and our pen has not allow a run in 29 innings.

this has been a real fun 1 third of a season so far.

been a crazy 1st 3rd...some days, you guys look awful. other days, worldbeaters... enough to drive a guy insane
Green94
WTF Thome.
Capella
QUOTE (Widbil83 @ May 29 2008, 12:40 AM) *
Da Rays are in trouble! w00t.gif


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Widbil83
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QUOTE (Widbil83 @ May 29 2008, 12:40 AM) *
Da Rays are in trouble! w00t.gif


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3 bags for 3 games we #### the bed in. God our offense sucks.
Green94
Ozzie promising big changes come Tuesday...

This team is pathetic excluding the pitching of course.
gump
So who isn't Ozzie "protecting" anymore? His hitting coach?
Widbil83
Ozzie after the game-
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Just be ready because I expect movement Tuesday," Guillen said. "I expect Kenny to do something Tuesday, and if we don’t do anything Tuesday, there are going to be a lot of lineup changes. That’s all I’m going to say about the offense.

"It can be me. It can be (hitting coach) Greg Walker. It can be the players. It could be anybody. I’m sick and tired to watch this thing for a year and a half. I’m not protecting anybody anymore. (Bleep) it.

"If they can’t get it done, Kenny should find someone to get it done. That’s it."





Kenny Williams just came back and made a statement about Ozzie
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'Very interesting, very disappointing,'' Williams said. ''It's never a good idea to throw your boss under the bus, especially when that boss has had his back as much as I have. I guess that lineup will be real interesting to see on Tuesday.

''We have the horses. Everyone has to stay positive and keep grinding. If you're looking for a quick fix personnel-wise, with the climate right now, you're not going to get it. I expect more of everyone in that uniform and certainly the guy leading the team on the field.''

Chances this ends well? mellow.gif
Wrigley
QUOTE (Widbil83 @ Jun 1 2008, 07:17 PM) *
Ozzie after the game-
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Just be ready because I expect movement Tuesday," Guillen said. "I expect Kenny to do something Tuesday, and if we don’t do anything Tuesday, there are going to be a lot of lineup changes. That’s all I’m going to say about the offense.

"It can be me. It can be (hitting coach) Greg Walker. It can be the players. It could be anybody. I’m sick and tired to watch this thing for a year and a half. I’m not protecting anybody anymore. (Bleep) it.

"If they can’t get it done, Kenny should find someone to get it done. That’s it."





Kenny Williams just came back and made a statement about Ozzie
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'Very interesting, very disappointing,'' Williams said. ''It's never a good idea to throw your boss under the bus, especially when that boss has had his back as much as I have. I guess that lineup will be real interesting to see on Tuesday.

''We have the horses. Everyone has to stay positive and keep grinding. If you're looking for a quick fix personnel-wise, with the climate right now, you're not going to get it. I expect more of everyone in that uniform and certainly the guy leading the team on the field.''

Chances this ends well? mellow.gif


Ozzie has been asking to be fired the past couple years.

Killing Kenny only works on South Park.
Green94
QUOTE (Widbil83 @ Jun 1 2008, 07:17 PM) *
Ozzie after the game-
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Just be ready because I expect movement Tuesday," Guillen said. "I expect Kenny to do something Tuesday, and if we don’t do anything Tuesday, there are going to be a lot of lineup changes. That’s all I’m going to say about the offense.

"It can be me. It can be (hitting coach) Greg Walker. It can be the players. It could be anybody. I’m sick and tired to watch this thing for a year and a half. I’m not protecting anybody anymore. (Bleep) it.

"If they can’t get it done, Kenny should find someone to get it done. That’s it."





Kenny Williams just came back and made a statement about Ozzie
QUOTE
'Very interesting, very disappointing,'' Williams said. ''It's never a good idea to throw your boss under the bus, especially when that boss has had his back as much as I have. I guess that lineup will be real interesting to see on Tuesday.

''We have the horses. Everyone has to stay positive and keep grinding. If you're looking for a quick fix personnel-wise, with the climate right now, you're not going to get it. I expect more of everyone in that uniform and certainly the guy leading the team on the field.''

Chances this ends well? mellow.gif

Send Konerko and Thome down to AAA mellow.gif
Green94
QUOTE (Wrigley @ Jun 1 2008, 07:22 PM) *
Killing Kenny only works on South Park.

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Well played.
Widbil83
Ozzie pretty much told Kenny he can't win with this lineup and do something and Kenny said eat ####.


Capella
QUOTE (Widbil83 @ Jun 1 2008, 08:26 PM) *
Ozzie pretty much told Kenny he can't win with this lineup and do something and Kenny said eat ####.

Sounds like it should be a great summer.
Knightro
Ozzie should be canned if the Sox don't win the central. The pitching is sick, nearly from top to bottom. Whoever called the curveball to Gross on the last pitch tonight should be fired since Gross had not come close on the previous fastballs. Going into that at bat, Gross was 1-9 with 7 k's against lefties this year and for his career, hits lefties like Tony Pena Jr hits everybody.

The lineup is built for the 3 run homer but needs some more speed. Their only guys that can run hit 1 and 9 and everyone in between swings for the fences.

They just ran into a better team this weekend smile.gif
Widbil83
Pretty good point a poster made on a Sox messageboard I visit about the Kenny vs Ozzie deal-

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Based on Ozzie's comments to the mainstream media the past two years it seems to me there is a "disconnect" between the type of team he wants and the type of team Kenny wants.

I base that on the published remarks in the summer of 2007 regarding wanting to play more Ozzie-Ball but not having the players who can do it, as well as the "I won't lie to the fans" remark.

Then this off season on at least three different occasions he was quoted as saying "I'm tired of the strike outs and I'm tired of waiting for a home run to score runs."

Ozzie can only work with what he is given.

I can honestly see one of the two individuals leaving the organization at the end of the year if common ground isn't found.

Makes a ton of sense.
Power Monster
QUOTE (Widbil83 @ Jun 2 2008, 01:49 AM) *
Pretty good point a poster made on a Sox messageboard I visit about the Kenny vs Ozzie deal-

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Based on Ozzie's comments to the mainstream media the past two years it seems to me there is a "disconnect" between the type of team he wants and the type of team Kenny wants.

I base that on the published remarks in the summer of 2007 regarding wanting to play more Ozzie-Ball but not having the players who can do it, as well as the "I won't lie to the fans" remark.

Then this off season on at least three different occasions he was quoted as saying "I'm tired of the strike outs and I'm tired of waiting for a home run to score runs."

Ozzie can only work with what he is given.

I can honestly see one of the two individuals leaving the organization at the end of the year if common ground isn't found.

Makes a ton of sense.




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I look at this as being a lack of communication and now frustration. Frustration is essentially a problem that is close to being resolved with some minor tweaks. Kenny went out and really lit up the pitching staff this year. The offensive contributions? Cabrera, Ramirez and Swisher. All three players have been slow out of the gate w AR and Cabrera showing some signs of life. Cabrera's defense has been solid. Swisher is killing the team and I often tune into a game and he is hitting (or trying) with two outs and RISP.

The blame here goes to the players but a lot of credit has to go to the Rays. They executed when they had to get it done. But now we get KC. What is going to happen if we lose to them, the Twins and the Tigers? The Sox could find themselves in 3rd place by June 13th if the Tigers get red hot. I am convinced it is going to be this up and down struggle all year long but in no way do I blame anyone in management this year. It isn't as if we are not hitting lately (13 hits yesterday). Rather, it is the same guys that are coming up w RISP that are failing. If anything, Ozzie should have had the balls to call out these players and tell them either you hit or you sit. No one needs to get fired but someone needs to get fired up. The team has been on the road a LOT this year and we now have 19 games at home in June (3 at Wrigley). All this will blow up or go away based on some home cooking.
whitem0nkey
Just want to say to all the bummed out sox fans.

The sox are in first place after playing 1/3 of the season. And we have a lot of good things going for us. Sure we have some flaws but so what, with all those flaws were still the team to beat in the central.

We have a nice and easy month coming up. We should be in better shape 1 month from now. And by then we will have a few teams that we can talk with about some kind of trade if were still struggling with the bats. KW will make a move.
Power Monster
QUOTE (whitem0nkey @ Jun 2 2008, 11:45 AM) *
Just want to say to all the bummed out sox fans.

The sox are in first place after playing 1/3 of the season. And we have a lot of good things going for us. Sure we have some flaws but so what, with all those flaws were still the team to beat in the central.

We have a nice and easy month coming up. We should be in better shape 1 month from now. And by then we will have a few teams that we can talk with about some kind of trade if were still struggling with the bats. KW will make a move.



The part that is a big concern is the teams that beat us or give us fits are the Twins the Angels and now TB. The Sox have been dreadful playing indoors or on field turf. We can beat up on the teams that are just bad or slow getting out of the gate but the teams that are good- we are exposing our weaknesses- inability to throw out runners and the utter failure to drive in RISP when we need them.

I think that cooler heads will prevail once the team can get off the road but the main problem here can be weeded out by looking at who is leading the team in leaving RISP.
Wrigley
QUOTE (whitem0nkey @ Jun 2 2008, 11:45 AM) *
Just want to say to all the bummed out sox fans.

The sox are in first place after playing 1/3 of the season. And we have a lot of good things going for us. Sure we have some flaws but so what, with all those flaws were still the team to beat in the central.

We have a nice and easy month coming up. We should be in better shape 1 month from now. And by then we will have a few teams that we can talk with about some kind of trade if were still struggling with the bats. KW will make a move.



Someone has to tell Ozzie this
Widbil83
QUOTE (whitem0nkey @ Jun 2 2008, 11:45 AM) *
Just want to say to all the bummed out sox fans.

The sox are in first place after playing 1/3 of the season. And we have a lot of good things going for us. Sure we have some flaws but so what, with all those flaws were still the team to beat in the central.

We have a nice and easy month coming up. We should be in better shape 1 month from now. And by then we will have a few teams that we can talk with about some kind of trade if were still struggling with the bats. KW will make a move.

I appreciate the moral boost friend, but can we plaese drop this first place team shtick? This is not a first place team. If the Twins go on to win we will be tied I think anyway.

And I disagree with you that we will be in better shape in a month. What has the offense showed you that would make you think that? confused1.gif
Widbil83
QUOTE (Wrigley @ Jun 2 2008, 02:35 PM) *
QUOTE (whitem0nkey @ Jun 2 2008, 11:45 AM) *
Just want to say to all the bummed out sox fans.

The sox are in first place after playing 1/3 of the season. And we have a lot of good things going for us. Sure we have some flaws but so what, with all those flaws were still the team to beat in the central.

We have a nice and easy month coming up. We should be in better shape 1 month from now. And by then we will have a few teams that we can talk with about some kind of trade if were still struggling with the bats. KW will make a move.



Someone has to tell Ozzie this

Ozzie lived through last June. Something tells me he get the feeling that the wheels could fall off again this year and that is why he called Williams out.
whitem0nkey
QUOTE (Widbil83 @ Jun 2 2008, 07:41 PM) *
QUOTE (whitem0nkey @ Jun 2 2008, 11:45 AM) *
Just want to say to all the bummed out sox fans.

The sox are in first place after playing 1/3 of the season. And we have a lot of good things going for us. Sure we have some flaws but so what, with all those flaws were still the team to beat in the central.

We have a nice and easy month coming up. We should be in better shape 1 month from now. And by then we will have a few teams that we can talk with about some kind of trade if were still struggling with the bats. KW will make a move.

I appreciate the moral boost friend, but can we plaese drop this first place team shtick? This is not a first place team. If the Twins go on to win we will be tied I think anyway.

And I disagree with you that we will be in better shape in a month. What has the offense showed you that would make you think that? confused1.gif


its not a shtick, sox are in first.

so according to you what place are the sox in??

well they have the starting pitching and the bullpen. they played a hard part of the schedule, and next month will be a lot easier in terms of opponents. thats why they are going to be in better shape even if the offense does not improve. and if the offense does improve they will be even better. I also love how ozzie is not happy just being in first, he wants to get better.

Look I know the sox have problems, but no need on spreading your bitterness on others.
Widbil83
I'm not dogin' ya or anything, I see where you're coming from about the easy schedule and all. But the twins a .5 game behind us and have the same number of wins. There are 6 teams with the same amount of wins or more than us in the AL right now. I'm not just going to bury my head in the sand and pretend everythings peachy. God bless the stinky central. thumbup1.gif
Power Monster
QUOTE (whitem0nkey @ Jun 2 2008, 11:07 PM) *
QUOTE (Widbil83 @ Jun 2 2008, 07:41 PM) *
QUOTE (whitem0nkey @ Jun 2 2008, 11:45 AM) *
Just want to say to all the bummed out sox fans.

The sox are in first place after playing 1/3 of the season. And we have a lot of good things going for us. Sure we have some flaws but so what, with all those flaws were still the team to beat in the central.

We have a nice and easy month coming up. We should be in better shape 1 month from now. And by then we will have a few teams that we can talk with about some kind of trade if were still struggling with the bats. KW will make a move.

I appreciate the moral boost friend, but can we plaese drop this first place team shtick? This is not a first place team. If the Twins go on to win we will be tied I think anyway.

And I disagree with you that we will be in better shape in a month. What has the offense showed you that would make you think that? confused1.gif


its not a shtick, sox are in first.

so according to you what place are the sox in??

well they have the starting pitching and the bullpen. they played a hard part of the schedule, and next month will be a lot easier in terms of opponents. thats why they are going to be in better shape even if the offense does not improve. and if the offense does improve they will be even better. I also love how ozzie is not happy just being in first, he wants to get better.

Look I know the sox have problems, but no need on spreading your bitterness on others.




I cannot see this as spreading bitterness. I understand that it is more in tune with knowing this team and how they stack up vs. some of the better teams in the AL. Recall- they played poorly against the Yankees and the Blue Jays as well. If the Sox come out and start to fumble with the likes of KC and the Tigers the Twins will roll. Also- we have not even seen the Red Sox yet. It is no secret that the pitching and Q have carried this team. I am not going to rail on Kenny but I am in Ozzie's corner here and I did not read into his rant as throwing KW under the bus. The guy is like us- a fan and he nailed it on the head and frankly- I am sick and tired of watching RISP getting left there. Let's be honest- that rant was reserved for Konerko, Thome and Swisher. These three guys are killing us and will kill us in the long run and I am not buying this Thome is a nice guy crap. He wanted to stay so start to $%^&ing produce!
Widbil83
Bitter Sox fans unite!!
Green94
QUOTE (Knightro @ Jun 1 2008, 08:11 PM) *
Ozzie should be canned if the Sox don't win the central.

Do you realize there are 3 better teams in the AL Central? confused1.gif
Green94
Quentin is an f'ing beast.
urbanhack
6 runs in less than 2 innings.

ozzie = genius


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Green94
Cuban Missle and Swish getting into it.

If Ozzie puts Uribe back in, I'm going to be seriously pissed.
Widbil83
I think it's safe to say the Cuban Missle will always have a spot somewhere. I hope.
Power Monster
Nice win- The Cuban Missle has some skills and this pitching staff is just going to have one of the better years in Sox history if this keeps up.

On the down side- another lousy offensive game from Thome and PK (although he made some nice digs over at 1st base).

Everyone in the AL Central lost last night. My God- look at the box score in that Tiger/A's game. Holy cow- there were some walks in that game to the tune of 22! The two starters accounted for 12 walks alone!
whitem0nkey
Alexie on may 12th was hitting .146 then he played everyday and now he is hitting .275.

WOOHOO
urbanhack
QUOTE (whitem0nkey @ Jun 4 2008, 09:42 AM) *
Alexie on may 12th was hitting .146 then he played everyday and now he is hitting .275.

WOOHOO


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6/3 Alexei Ramírez (CWS - 2B,OF) Add Free Agents 10000 Furley-Hacks


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whitem0nkey
QUOTE (Widbil83 @ Jun 3 2008, 04:27 PM) *
Bitter Sox fans unite!!


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sorry about that I was just frustrated.
whitem0nkey
also we scored against Greinke who came into the game with a 2.88 ERA
whitem0nkey
Sox just signed Esteban Loaiza popcorn.gif

Linky
Widbil83
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pantagrapher
So is Ramirez going to be leading off anytime soon? Yahoo is speculating, but I haven't heard anything more.
Power Monster
QUOTE (pantagrapher @ Jun 4 2008, 12:55 PM) *
So is Ramirez going to be leading off anytime soon? Yahoo is speculating, but I haven't heard anything more.



Do not know if he has the plate discipline in his young career.
Power Monster
QUOTE (whitem0nkey @ Jun 4 2008, 10:57 AM) *
Sox just signed Esteban Loaiza popcorn.gif

Linky



Well if he can help here I think that we might have some trade material to get that pop in the lineup.
pantagrapher
QUOTE (Power Monster @ Jun 4 2008, 01:06 PM) *
QUOTE (pantagrapher @ Jun 4 2008, 12:55 PM) *
So is Ramirez going to be leading off anytime soon? Yahoo is speculating, but I haven't heard anything more.



Do not know if he has the plate discipline in his young career.


Definitely, but for lack of alternative Ozzie might say #### it.
Power Monster
Big win. Way to get back into the swing of things with the middle of the lineup
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