QUOTE (Mr. Know-It-All @ May 21 2008, 10:54 PM)

go to baseball-reference.com
Pull up Ryne Sandberg.
Look up his HoF monitor score, his black ink and grey ink hitting numbers, etc.
Seriously...he is a very good 2B - but not the immediate lock HoF 2B you guys seem to think he was.
Again, I loved watching him play and he is one of the better 2B I saw play....but he's no Joe Morgan or Rogers Hornsby.
OK let's look at Sandberg's numbers. He has a higher career batting average, higher career slugging percentage, and more career HR than Morgan.
He also has more RBI per season and more essentially the same number of runs per season. Morgan does have the edge in OBP and SB. Obviously they played in different eras and had different roles on their teams, but Sandberg's offensive numbers are comparable with Morgan's in many ways. Sandberg, however, didn't have the benefit of playing in some of the greatest line-ups of all time like Morgan did.
Since you mentioned them, take a look at the black in/grey ink hitting: Morgan - 15/131 Sandberg - 14/134 Yeah, Sandberg is no Joe Morgan.
You also ignore the defensive half of the game, in which Sandberg was far superior to Morgan.
When he retired, Sandberg was the all-time leader among 2nd basemen in HR and the all-time leader in fielding percentage. He had an MVP. He had won a home run crown. He had the longest error-less streak ever among 2nd basemen. He had 9 straight gold gloves (longest streak ever), 7 silver sluggers, and 10 straight All-star games. If he isn't a lock for the HOF I don't know who is.
As a follow up, where did Morgan bat in the Reds order? (serious question - I wasn't a Reds fan) Ryno batted 2nd most of his career - interesting corollary to the RBI discussion.