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7.01 nittanylion - Matt Lienart, QB16, ARI 7
8.16 nittanylion - Kurt Warner, QB27, ARI 7
1.01 nittanylion - Steven Jackson, RB1, STL 5
5.01 nittanylion - Julius Jones, RB28, SEA 4
12.16 nittanylion - Dominic Rhodes, RB53, IND 4
18.16 nittanylion - Adrian 'The Other AP' Peterson, RB65, CHI 8
2.16 nittanylion - Wes Welker, WR13, NE 4
4.16 nittanylion - Hines Ward, WR23, PIT 6
6.16 nittanylion - D.J. Hackett, WR37, CAR 9
9.01 nittanylion - Muhsin Muhammed, WR49, CAR 9
10.16 nittanylion - Kevin Walter, WR63, HOU 8
3.01 nittanylion - Chris Cooley, TE4, WAS 10
15.01 nittanylion - Leonard Pope, TE25, ARI 7
17.01 nittanylion - Visanthe Shiancoe, TE31, MIN 8
13.01 nittanylion - Stephen Gostkowski, PK2, NE 4
16.16 nittanylion - Matt Bryant, PK25, TB 10
11.02 nittanylion - Jacksonville Jaguars, Def/ST4, JAX 7
14.16 nittanylion - Buffalo Bills, Def/ST25 6

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3.02 switz - Tony Romo, QB3, DAL 10
18.15 switz - Brady Quinn, QB34, CLE 5
1.02 switz - LaDanian Tomlinson, RB2, SD 9
4.15 switz - Felix Jones, RB27, DAL 10
6.15 switz - Rudi Johnson, RB32, CIN 8
17.02 switz - Jamaal Charles, RB62, KC 6
5.02 switz - Jerry Porter, WR24, JAX 7
7.02 switz - Sidney Rice, WR38, MIN 8
8.15 switz - Bryant Johnson, WR48, SF 9
9.02 switz - Roydell Williams, WR50, TEN 6
11.02 switz - Robert Meachem, WR64, NO 9
14.15 switz - Ben Obomanu, WR79, SEA 4
2.15 switz - Kellen Winslow, TE3, CLE 5
15.02 switz - Anthony Fasano, TE26, MIA 4
12.15 switz - Adam Vinatieri, K1, IND 4
16.15 switz - Jason Elam, PK24, ATL 7
10.15 switz - Pittsburgh, Def/ST3, PIT 6
13.02 switz - Indianapolis, Def/ST13, IND 4

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5.03 El Super Gringo - Derek Anderson, QB9, CLE 5
1.03 El Super Gringo - Adrian "ADP" Peterson, RB3, MIN 8
4.14 El Super Gringo - Jonathon Stewart, RB26, CAR 9
6.14 El Super Gringo - Kevin Smith, RB31, DET 4
7.03 El Super Gringo - DeAngelo Williams, RB33, CAR 9
2.14 El Super Gringo - Brandon Marshall, WR12, DEN 8
3.03 El Super Gringo - Chad Johnson, WR14, CIN 8
8.14 El Super Gringo - Ernest Graham, WR47, MIA 4
9.03 El Super Gringo - Mark Clayton, WR51, BAL 10
11.03 El Super Gringo - James Hardy, WR65, BUF 6
14.14 El Super Gringo - Devin Hester, WR78, CHI 8
17.03 El Super Gringo - Jeff Webb, WR82, KC 6
18.14 El Super Gringo - Lavelle Hawkins, WR94, TEN 6
10.14 El Super Gringo - Marcedes Lewis, TE21, JAX 7
16.14 El Super Gringo - Alex Smith, TE30, TB 10
15.03 El Super Gringo - Mason Crosby, PK8, GB 8
12.14 El Super Gringo - Seattle Seahwaks, Def/ST12 4
13.03 El Super Gringo - Philadelphia Eagles, Def/ST14 7

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4.13 Road Warriors - Matt Hasselbeck, QB8, SEA 4
8.13 Road Warriors - Tavaris Jackson, QB, MIN 8
1.04 Road Warriors - Brian Westbrook, RB4, PHI 7
7.04 Road Warriors - Travis Henry, RB34, DEN 8
11.04 Road Warriors - Warrick Dunn, RB43, TB 10
13.04 Road Warriors - Kevin Faulk, RB54, NE 4
3.04 Road Warriors - Plaxico Burress, WR15, NYG 4
5.04 Road Warriors - Roddy White, WR25, ATL 7
6.13 Road Warriors - Bobby Engram, WR36, SEA 4
9.04 Road Warriors - Ronald Curry, WR52, OAK 5
10.13 Road Warriors - Antwaan Randel El, WR62, WAS 10
18.13 Road Warriors - Justin McCareins, WR93, TEN 6
2.13 Road Warriors - Jason Witten, TE2, DAL 10
16.13 Road Warriors - Kevin Boss, TE29, NYG 4
14.13 Road Warriors - Rob Bironas, PK7, TEN 6
17.04 Road Warriors - Shaun Suisham, PK26, WAS 10
12.13 Road Warriors - Tennessee Titans, Def/ST11 6
15.04 Road Warriors - Washington Redskins, Def/ST26 10

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5.05 EBF - Jay Cutler, QB10, DEN 8
7.05 EBF - Vince Young, QB17, TEN 6
1.05 EBF - Clinton Portis, RB5, WAS 10
6.12 EBF - Chris Johnson, RB30, TEN 6
10.12 EBF - Tatum Bell, RB42, DET 4
12.12 EBF - Ray Rice, RB52, BAL 10
2.12 EBF - Anquan Boldin, WR11, ARI 7
4.12 EBF - Laverneous Coles, WR22, NYJ 5
8.12 EBF - Theodore Ginn Jr., WR46, MIA 4
9.05 EBF - Laurent Robinson, WR53, ATL 7
11.05 EBF - Brandon Stokley, WR66, DEN 8
18.12 EBF - Early Doucet, WR92, ARI 7
3.05 EBF - Tony Gonzalez, TE5, KC 6
13.05 EBF - Dustin Keller, TE23, NYJ 5
15.05 EBF - John Kasay, PK9, CAR 9
16.12 EBF - Rian Lindell, PK23, BUF 6
14.12 EBF - New Orleans Saints, Def/ST24 9
17.05 EBF - St. Louis Rams, DEF30 5

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5.06 Gamma1210 - Marc Bulger - QB11 - STL 5
7.06 Gamma1210 - Jason Campbell, QB18, WAS 10
1.06 Gamma1210 - Joseph Addai, RB6, IND 4
3.06 Gamma1210 - Ronnie Brown, RB15, MIA 4
8.11 Gamma1210 - Deuce McAllister, RB38, NO 9
11.06 Gamma1210 - Ahman Green, RB44, HOU 8
2.11 Gamma1210 - Torry Holt, WR10, STL 5
4.11 Gamma1210 - Greg Jennings, WR21, GB 8
6.11 Gamma1210 - Derrick Mason, WR35, BAL 10
10.11 Gamma1210 - Amani Toomer, WR61, NYG 4
12.11 Gamma1210 - Chad Jackson, WR75, NE 4
18.11 Gamma1210 - Earl Bennett, WR91, CHI 8
9.06 Gamma1210 - Donald Lee, TE14, GB 8
16.11 Gamma1210 - John Carlson, TE28, SEA 4
15.06 Gamma1210 - Phil Dawson, PK10, CLE 5
17.06 Gamma1210 - Jay Feely, PK27, MIA 4
13.06 Gamma1210 - Oakland Raiders, Def/ST15 5
14.11 Gamma1210 - Houston Texans, Def/ST23 8

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4.10 wraith5 - Donovan McNabb, QB7, PHI 7
7.07 wraith5 - Jake Delhomme, QB19, CAR 9
1.07 wraith5 - Frank Gore, RB7, SF 9
3.07 wraith5 - Earnest Graham, RB16, TB 10
13.07 wraith5 - Lorenzo Booker, RB55, PHI 7
14.10 wraith5 - Sammy Morris, RB59, NE 4
18.10 wraith5 - Chris Perry, RB64, CIN 5
2.10 wraith5 - Steve Smith, WR9, CAR 9
6.10 wraith5 - Javon Walker, WR34, OAK 5
8.10 wraith5 - Nate Burleson, WR45, SEA 4
9.07 wraith5 - Reggie Williams, WR54, JAX 7
12.10 wraith5 - Shaun McDonald, WR74, DET 4
17.07 wraith5 - Josh Reed, WR83, BUF 6
5.07 wraith5 - Todd Heap, TE6, BAL 10
10.10 wraith5 - Greg Olsen, TE20, CHI 8
16.10 wraith5 - Lawrence Tynes, PK22, NYG 4
15.07 wraith5 - Josh Scobee, PK11, JAX 7
11.07 wraith5 - Chicago Bears, Def/ST5, CHI 8

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7.08 anthony borbely - Aaron Rodgers, QB20, GB 8
8.09 anthony borbely - Alex Smith, QB25, SF 9
1.08 anthony borbely - Larry Johnson, RB8, KC 6
3.08 anthony borbely - Jamal Lewis, RB17, CLE 5
10.09 anthony borbely - Jerious Norwood, RB41, ATL 7
12.09 anthony borbely - Ricky Williams, RB51, MIA 4
4.09 anthony borbely - Jericho Cotchery, WR20, NYJ 5
5.08 anthony borbely - Santana Moss, WR26, WAS 10
6.09 anthony borbely - Joey Galloway, WR33, TB 10
9.08 anthony borbely - Arnaz Battle, WR55, SF 9
11.08 anthony borbely - Marty Booker, WR67, CHI 8
13.08 anthony borbely - Demetrius Williams, WR77, BAL 10
2.09 anthony borbely - Antonio Gates, TE1, SD 9
18.09 anthony borbely - Bo Scaife, TE33, TEN 6
16.09 anthony borbely - Jeff Reed, PK21, PIT 5
17.08 anthony borbely - Matt Prater, PK28, ATL 7
14.09 anthony borbely - Carolina Panthers, Def/ST22 9
15.08 anthony borbely - San Francisco 49ers, Def/ST27 9

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4.08 Norsemen - Ben Roethlisberger, QB6, PIT 6
8.08 Norsemen - JaMarcus Russell, QB24, OAK 5
3.09 Norsemen - Michael Turner, RB18, ATL 7
6.08 Norsemen - Rashard Mendenhall, RB29, PIT 6
10.08 Norsemen - Leon Washington, RB40, NYJ 5
12.08 Norsemen - Kenny Watson, RB50, CIN 8
1.09 Norsemen - Randy Moss, WR1, NE 4
2.08 Norsemen - T.J. Houshmanzadeh, WR8, CIN 8
7.09 Norsemen - Reggie Brown, WR39, PHI 7
9.09 Norsemen - Drew Bennett, WR56, STL 5
11.09 Norsemen - James Jones, WR68, GB 8
18.08 Norsemen - Terry Glenn, WR90, DAL 10
5.09 Norsemen - Dallas Clark, TE7, IND 4
14.08 Norsemen - Ben Utecht, TE24, CIN 8
16.08 Norsemen - Jason Hanson, PK20, DET 6
17.09 Norsemen - Taylor Mehlhaff, PK29, NO 9
13.09 Norsemen - Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Def/ST16 10
15.09 Norsemen - Miami Dolphins, Def/ST28 4

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5.10 beachbum - Matt Schaub, QB12, HOU 8
7.10 beachbum - Trent Edwards, QB21, BUF 6
13.10 beachbum - Matt Ryan, QB29, ATL 7
18.07 beachbum - Sage Rosenfels, QB33, HOU 8
1.10 beachbum - Marion Barber, RB9, DAL 10
4.07 beachbum - Fred Taylor, RB25, JAX 7
9.10 beachbum - Chris Brown, RB38, HOU 8
2.07 beachbum - Marques Colston, WR7, NO 9
3.10 beachbum - Santonio Holmes, WR16, PIT 6
6.07 beachbum - Anthony Gonzalez, WR32, IND 4
17.10 beachbum - Jacoby Jones, WR84, HOU 8
8.07 beachbum - Zach Miller, TE13, OAK 5
10.07 beachbum - Randy McMichael, TE18, STL 5
12.07 beachbum - Jeff King, TE22, CAR 9
15.10 beachbum - Kris Brown, PK12, HOU 8
16.07 beachbum - Mike Nugent, PK19, NYJ 4
11.10 beachbum - Dallas Cowboys, Def/ST6, DAL 10
14.07 beachbum - Cleveland Browns, Def/ST21 5

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3.11 MOP - Drew Brees, QB4, NO 9
14.06 MOP - Brody Croyle, QB30, KC 6
1.11 MOP - Reggie Bush, RB10, NO 9
7.11 MOP - Chester Taylor, RB35, MIN 8
8.06 MOP - Amhad Bradshaw, RB37, NYG 4
13.11 MOP - LaMont Jordan, RB56, OAK 5
2.06 MOP - Andre Johnson, WR6, HOU 8
4.06 MOP - Lee Evans, WR20, BUF 6
5.11 MOP - Donald Driver, WR27, GB 8
9.11 MOP - Jabar Gaffney, WR57, NE 4
12.06 MOP - Nate Washington, WR73, PIT 6
17.11 MOP - Donnie Avery, WR85, STL 5
6.06 MOP - Jeremy Shockey, TE10, NYG? 4?
15.11 MOP - Desmond Clark, TE27, CHI 8
16.06 MOP - Joe Nedney, PK18, SF 9
18.06 MOP - Brandon Coutu, PK31, SEA 4
10.06 MOP - Minnesota Vikings Def/ST2, MIN 8
11.11 MOP - New England Patriots, Def/ST7, NE 4

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6.05 bostonfred - David Garrard, QB15, JAX 7
7.12 bostonfred - Jeff Garcia, QB22, TB 10
1.12 bostonfred - Marshawn Lynch, RB11, BUF 6
3.12 bostonfred - Laurence Maroney, RB19, NE 4
12.05 bostonfred - Brandon Jackson, RB49, GB 8
13.12 bostonfred - Ladell Betts, RB57, WAS 10
2.05 bostonfred - Larry Fitzgerald, WR5, ARI 7
4.05 bostonfred - Dwayne Bowe, WR19, KC 6
5.12 bostonfred - Chris Chambers, WR28, SD 9
8.05 bostonfred - Deion Branch, WR44, SEA 4
16.05 bostonfred - Ike Hilliard, WR81, TB 10
18.05 bostonfred - Joe Jurevicius, WR89, CLE 5
9.12 bostonfred - Ben Watson, TE15, NE 4
10.05 bostonfred - LJ Smith, TE18, PHI 7
15.12 bostonfred - Neil Rackers, PK13, ARI 7
17.12 bostonfred - Sebastian Janikowski, PK30, OAK 5
11.12 bostonfred - Baltimore Ravens, Def/ST8, BAL 10
14.05 bostonfred - Detroit Lions, Def/ST20 4

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5.13 comet - Eli Manning, QB13, NYG 4
9.13 comet - Kellen Clemens, QB28, NYJ 5
18.04 comet - Rex Grossman, QB32, CHI 8
1.13 comet - Ryan Grant, RB12, GB 8
3.13 comet - Willie Parker, RB20, PIT 6
8.04 comet - Matt Forte, RB36, CHI 8
11.13 comet - Justin Fargas RB44, OAK 5
15.13 comet - Correll Buckhalter, RB60, PHI 7
2.04 comet - Braylon Edwards, WR4, CLE 5
4.04 comet - Calvin Johnson, WR18, DET 4
6.04 comet - Marvin Harrison, WR31, IND 4
12.04 comet - Mark Bradley, WR72, CHI 8
17.13 comet - Drew Carter, WR86, OAK 5
7.13 comet - Vernon Davis, TE11, SF 9
13.13 comet - Josh Brown, PK3, STL 5
16.04 comet - Matt Stover, PK17, BAL 10
10.4 comet - San Diego Chargers, Def/ST1, SD 9
14.04 comet - Denver Broncos, Def/ST19 8

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6.03 Steel Dillo - Phillip Rivers, QB14, SD 9
8.03 Steel Dillo - Jon Kitna, QB23, DET 4
1.14 Steel Dillo - Maurice Jones-Drew, RB13, JAX 7
4.03 Steel Dillo - Thomas Jones, RB24, NYJ 5
11.14 Steel Dillo - Cedric Benson, RB45, CHI 8
16.03 Steel Dillo - Pierre Thomas, RB61, NO 9
2.03 Steel Dillo - Terrell Owens, WR3, DAL 10
3.14 Steel Dillo - Roy Williams, WR17, DET 4
9.14 Steel Dillo - Justin Gage, WR58, TEN 6
10.03 Steel Dillo - Michael Jenkins, WR60, ATL 7
12.03 Steel Dillo - David Patten, WR71, NO 9
18.03 Steel Dillo - Devard Darling, WR88, KC 6
5.14 Steel Dillo - Owen Daniels, TE8, HOU 8
7.14 Steel Dillo - Heath Miller, TE12, PIT 6
13.14 Steel Dillo - Nick Folk, PK4, DAL 10
15.14 Steel Dillo - Robbie Gould, PK14, CHI 8
17.14 Steel Dillo - Atlanta Falcons, Def/ST31 7
14.03 Steel Dillo - New York Jets, Def/ST18 5

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4.02 commuterman - Carson Palmer, QB5, CIN 8
17.15 commuterman - Kyle Boller, QB31, BAL 10
1.15 commuterman - Willis McGahee, RB14, BAL 10
3.15 commuterman - Darren McFadden, RB21, OAK 5
6.02 commuterman - LenDale White, RB28, TEN 6
9.15 commuterman - Selvin Young, RB39, DEN 8
2.02 commuterman - Reggie Wayne, WR2, IND 4
5.15 commuterman - Kevin Curtis, WR29, PHI 7
7.15 commuterman - Bernard Berrian, WR40, MIN 8
8.02 commuterman - Isaac Bruce, WR43, SF 9
12.02 commuterman - Steve Smith, WR70, NYG 4
16.02 commuterman - Devin Thomas, WR80, WAS 10
10.02 commuterman - Alge Crumpler, TE17, TEN 6
18.02 commuterman - Chris Baker, TE32, NYJ 5
13.15 commuterman - Nate Kaeding, PK5, SD 9
15.15 commuterman - Ryan Longwell, PK15, MIN 8
11.15 commuterman - NY Giants, Def/ST9, NYG 4
14.02 commuterman - Arizona Cardinals, Def/ST17 7

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1.16 teamramrod - Tom Brady, QB1, NE 4
2.01 teamramrod - Peyton Manning, QB2, IND 4
3.16 teamramrod - Brandon Jacobs, RB22, NYG 4
4.01 teamramrod - Edgerrin James, RB23, ARI 7
14.01 teamramrod - T.J Duckett, RB58, SEA 4
17.16 teamramrod - DeShaun Foster, RB63, SF 9
6.01 teamramrod - Vincent Jackson, WR30, SD 9
7.16 teamramrod - Donte Stallworth, WR41, CLE 5
8.01 teamramrod - Patrick Crayton, WR42, DAL 10
10. 1 teamramrod - Darrel Jackson, WR59, DEN 8
11.16 teamramrod - Jason Avant, WR69, PHI 7
18.01 teamramrod - Devery Henderson, WR87, NO 9
5.16 teamramrod - Tony Scheffler, TE9, DEN 8
9. 16 teamramrod - Eric Johnson, TE16, NO 9
13.16 teamramrod - Shayne Graham, PK6, CIN 8
16.01 teamramrod - David Akers, PK16, PHI 7
12.01 teamramrod - Green Bay Packers, Def/ST10 8
15.16 teamramrod - Kansas City Chiefs, DEF29 6

Week 4: NYG, DET, SEA, NE, INDY, MIA
Week 5: STL, NYJ, CLE, OAK
Week 6: BUF, PIT, TEN, KC
Week 7: PHI, ATL, AZ, JAX
Week 8: DEN, CHI, GB, MIN, CIN, HOU
Week 9: SD, NO, CAR, SF
Week 10: DAL, WASH, TB, BAL

Most teams are doing well to coordinate bye-weeks. The big issues are for teamramrod - both Brady and Manning with the same bye, however the more critical one is El Super Gringo who has ADP, Marshall and CJ (his top 3 picks) all off in week 8!!! Good luck with the amnesty guys!!!

I like BostonFred's and MOP's teams thus far. Good balance and solid contributers on their rosters.

I agree. Interestingly, they pick right next to one another - good indication that place in the draft order is probably best.

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I agree. Interestingly, they pick right next to one another - good indication that place in the draft order is probably best.
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I do like the middle of the draft order in serpentine drafts but recently with these survivor drafts I have found myself at either end of the list. It's nice to get two picks back-to-back or close in time but it makes it difficult to time runs.

First year doing survivor drafts. Byes are way more impt here than regular leagues. Seems I've bunked it up. We'll see if I can fix it.

I like those teams too. At those spots you get a RB in that big 2nd tier and a 1st tier WR. I don't like Evans normally, but best ball is the best format for him.

Drafting 6th I got Addai who is at the top of the 2nd tier of RBs and came back with Holt who is in my 2nd tier of WRs. As long as I can cover my RBs bye weeks I like my team.

You could start by making your pick....

Aside from the noted BF & MOP, I like Norsemen and Gamma1210, especially if the high risk/reward players come through in Mendenhall and Ronnie Brown, repsectively.

I like my squad so far, but I already see holes that will need some breaks to fill. Next few rounds will be very critical to this team.

TRR and Gamma are likely hoping for really good week 3's...

Gringo obviously looking for a great week 7

People are letting a ton of value slide to Fred and MOP.

Sorry BnB... I won't let it happen again...

Disagree... there have been a few picks far outside of their ADP, but none of BF's or MOP's picks are really low compared their ADP in the other leagues. I can see you enjoy coming in here and insulting the makeup of this league like a red headed stepchild, but your comments have little to no basis. Unless you want to support your grand sweeping statements on a week-legged set of "evidence."

3.11 MOP - Drew Brees, QB4, NO 9 (SSL1:QB4 4.02 | SSL2:QB4 4.02 | SSL3:QB4 4.04) - MOP took him at QB4
1.11 MOP - Reggie Bush, RB10, NO 9 (SSL1:RB13 1.15 | SSL2:RB8 1.9 | SSL3:RB8 1.10) - MOP took him within range
2.06 MOP - Andre Johnson, WR6, HOU 8 (SSL1:WR9 2.11 | SSL2:WR5 2.7 | SSL3:WR5 2.06) - MOP Took him within range
4.06 MOP - Lee Evans, WR20, BUF 6 (SSL1:WR12 2.15 | SSL2:WR17 3.14 | SSL3:WR20 4.03) - MOP took at low end of range
5.11 MOP - Donald Driver, WR27, GB 8 (SSL1:WR29 5.13 | SSL2:WR26 5.4 | SSL3:WR27 5.09) - MOP took him within range
6.06 MOP - Jeremy Shockey, TE10, NYG? 4? (SSL1:TE8 5.12 | SSL2:TE8 5.9 | SSL3:TE8 5.07) - MOP took at TE10, 2 spots lower than the other drafts

There's not a ton of value - Evans fell, but not for compared to SSL 3, and Shockey dropped, likely due to uncertainty about his situation.

6.05 bostonfred - David Garrard, QB15, JAX 7 (SSL1:QB12 5.07 | SSL2:QB13 5.11 | SSL3:QB13 5.14) - BF got him 2 spots low in rank, half a round low
1.12 bostonfred - Marshawn Lynch, RB11, BUF 6 (SSL1:RB8 1.08 | SSL2:RB7 1.7 | SSL3:RB9 1.11) - 2-4 spots low in rank, 1 spot low in pick
3.12 bostonfred - Laurence Maroney, RB19, NE 4 (SSL1:RB18 3.06 | SSL2:RB16 2.13 | SSL3:RB18 3.07) - within range
2.05 bostonfred - Larry Fitzgerald, WR5, ARI 7 (SSL1:WR6 2.07 | SSL2:WR4 2.5 | SSL3:WR4 2.04) - within range
4.05 bostonfred - Dwayne Bowe, WR19, KC 6 (SSL1:WR20 4.04 | SSL2:WR21 4.8 | SSL3:WR19 4.02) - within range
5.12 bostonfred - Chris Chambers, WR28, SD 9 (SSL1:WR24 4.12 | SSL2:WR27 5.5 | SSL3:WR25 5.03) - 1-3 ranks low, near range for pick

The biggest outlier is Garrard, and at this range of QBs it's not really a steal.

Yeah what Switz said!!!

A ton? I don't see a ton on either, although I like Fred's team better than MoP's

1.11 MOP - Reggie Bush, RB10, NO 9 - a little surprised he slipped that far. Good value for a 1st rounder
3.11 MOP - Drew Brees, QB4, NO 9 - solid
2.06 MOP - Andre Johnson, WR6, HOU 8 - solid
4.06 MOP - Lee Evans, WR20, BUF 6 - Evans had three great games last year - 3!! Same scheme, same QB, and a rook on the opposite side.
5.11 MOP - Donald Driver, WR27, GB 8 - Driver has turned into Derrick Mason. Nothing wrong with that, except it isn't Favre throwing the rock anymore.
6.06 MOP - Jeremy Shockey, TE10, NYG? 4? - which Shockey do you get: '05-'06 Shockey, or the guy who got 20% of his production in 1 game?

I don't see tremendous value here.

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6.05 bostonfred - David Garrard, QB15, JAX 7 - some upside here, good value at QB15
1.12 bostonfred - Marshawn Lynch, RB11, BUF 6 - not my fav in PPR format, but hey - I drafted him in WSL3 (at 1.15)
3.12 bostonfred - Laurence Maroney, RB19, NE 4 - I think there were better options left on the board at 3.12. I like Jacobs, Jones, James, and Fred Taylor better.
2.05 bostonfred - Larry Fitzgerald, WR5, ARI 7 - solid
4.05 bostonfred - Dwayne Bowe, WR19, KC 6 - very good value
5.12 bostonfred - Chris Chambers, WR28, SD 9 - maybe my favorite pick of the bunch. Had I not gone Heap, this was my guy in 5.

Overall a very good team as long as weeks 6 & 7 don't get any worse.

Maybe a "ton" was a bit of an exaggeration, however everyone of Fred's picks is below adp or at it. Summed together it's become a team loaded with value picks. A reach or two before him is all it takes for the last guy in a tier to slip. In this format with 16 teams ofter the worm turns the other way and you're on the outside looking in. He's got two RB1s in my opinion and hasn't sacrificed a WR at WR or QB.

Regarding MOP, I only had his recent picks in my head. Shockey really jumped out at me as a steal at TE10.

I think that's where we all differ with you and BF. In this league Maroney is great because you don't need to decide when to start him, but with him on you team it is essential you grab another upper tier RB to fill in the 8-10 weeks that Maroney puts up nothing.

Last season Maroney put up:
7
7
16
3
12
5
7
9
13
1
16
21
16
24
19
12

I guess that's better than I actually thought it was, but 7 games under 10 points is not a #1 RB. Definitely a solid #2. His concensus on FBG right now is RB17 - best #2 RB to have.

Lynch#10 + Maroney#17 versus LT#1 + Rudi#25? Almost even.

I obviously like my QB and TE far better.

Though I agree BF's WRs are to be envied. I think Bowe will finish the season as a clear #1 WR in a 16 team league.

We're just letting it come to us...nothing special about the picks. My team still needs a lot of work.

I did mention though that BF and I picking one right after the next might be interesting...I can't honestly say we have gotten in each other's way at all, but I feel like I knew about where he was going with each pick. I went back and forth between Lynch and Bush, I am betting BF was happy I took Bush.

Personally I like Maroney more than Lynch this year. You know NE's offense is going to be good and I don't think 15+ TD would be a reach at all for him. I recall Maroney had an injury last year that impacted those early season numbers. Those last 6 games equate to 288 fantasy points over the course of a year.

I'd have been happy with either.

Bowe was the most difficult pick of my first five rounds, but I am glad I took him. Interested to see if anyone thinks it was a bad pick, and who they would have taken, in the same position.

I took Bowe in the 4th round as my WR3. Pick was from a long list I left and I'm not real excited about it. Sophmore jinx and KC QBs have me concerned. In your situation (not looking at byes) I would have selected Lee Evans. He's performed in the past and there may finally be enough weapons to take some of the pressure off him.

Considered him but didn't want to pair him with Lynch. Not the only other player I considered before settling on Bowe. I think I was right after a substantial dropoff at that pick, which is why I think it's such an interesting decision, because there were several similarly ranked players from the next tier down.

I have Bowe in my dynasty league so I'm pretty high on him. He played well last season with a bad QB, and I don't believe in the sophomore jinx, so.

Wraith must be expecting to put up HUGE points in week 8 to cover for missing his #1 RB and #1 WR in week 9.

I guess he's counting on Walker being a STUD despite only getting 1,000 yards twice in 7 years, totally sucking up the joint last year, and now being on a team without a QB.

And he must also expect Ernest Graham to be a good RB, despite taking 5 years to get a shot at starting, only averaging 4.0 YPC in that shot, and now holding out for more money. LOL.

Why are you talking about me instead of to me? Just a carryover from the real world or what?

I expect my squad to put up HUGE points every week - anyone who doesn't think the same about their team is doing it wrong.

I expect Walker to outperform his draft position. I think there will be consistency at QB in Oakland, which will make a big difference in and of itself. I think they have a very capable running game, which should open up some passing lanes if the D can keep games within reach (I do). I think if Walker is healed, he will perform as he has in the seasons he's been healthy. Which means 1000 yards isn't at all outside the realm of possibility.

I expect Graham to be an outstanding RB this season. It took him 4 (not 5) years to really produce, but he was behind Cadilac and Pittman during those years. Surely you're aware of guys who took some time in the NFL to produce. Graham is not the first. And as far as him holding out for more money despite a spotty track record, you should really follow this link.

Agreed - just razzin

They just won't put up as many points as mine

I had planned on taking a QB at this pick, and I feel strongly that Garcia would have been gone at my next pick, so I'm happy to have him.

Honest question for you: Do you think Brady/Manning and your TE will outscore Garrard/Garcia and my TE by more than Lynch/Maroney outscores Edge/Jacobs, and my receivers will outscore yours? I'm not being critical; I'm really curious.

For me, I wanted to get a second QB who was a full season starter. There aren't many left, and of the ones remaining, I really like Garcia. I've got two QBs each week and should get 200 yards and 2 TDs or so at a pop. That's not too bad considering the later picks I spent on them. I've got 3 WRs who are the #1 on their own team, 2 RBs who should do the same, and should be able to get the starting TE from at least one team, so I'm happy about that. Not too many teams that can say that much so far.

I took the as fear because he still needs a third QB, and Garcia was his target. Garrard/Garcia is a really nice pairing for you. If I hadn't tagged Romo early, I would have followed a similar strategy of getting to closely ranked mid tier QBs, and hope their bigger games alternated.



I think this is the right way to look at teams at this point, it's about matchups. Where you are stronger than me (WR) - is it enough to compensate for where I am stronger than you (QB, RB, TE)?

I honestly think week in and out I will have a top-3 QB, a top-2 running game in totals, a top-2 TE, and a mid level WR corps. It should be enough to move me up at least one level next season, if not 2 levels.

It's not about scoring the most boys...it's about not scoring the least.

words of wisdom


hence - how I've been drafting

6.03 Steel Dillo - Phillip Rivers, QB14, SD 9
8.03 Steel Dillo - Jon Kitna, QB23, DET 4
1.14 Steel Dillo - Maurice Jones-Drew, RB13, JAX 7
4.03 Steel Dillo - Thomas Jones, RB24, NYJ 5
2.03 Steel Dillo - Terrell Owens, WR3, DAL 10
3.14 Steel Dillo - Roy Williams, WR17, DET 4
5.14 Steel Dillo - Owen Daniels, TE8, HOU 8
7.14 Steel Dillo - Heath Miller, TE12, 6

Pretty medicore so far, but mediocre should keep me in the running for quite a while.

I am just waiting for the kicker run to start.....

Post taken under consideration. Response will come when the full draft is finished.

However. I have Brian Griese on my Dynasty roster for a reason.

I like this team except for Miller at 7.14. WR3 would have offer better value than TE2.

I almost went with a WR, but I just couldn't make myself pull the trigger. All I saw was a whole lot of blah.

IMO better to have blah and blah to cobble together a WR3 then blah leave points on the bench every week. I really like your Daniels pick so I don't think Miller adds much to your team.

4.02 commuterman - Carson Palmer, QB5, CIN 8
1.15 commuterman - Willis McGahee, RB14, BAL 10
3.15 commuterman - Darren McFadden, RB21, OAK 5
6.02 commuterman - LenDale White, RB28, TEN 6
2.02 commuterman - Reggie Wayne, WR2, IND 4
5.15 commuterman - Kevin Curtis, WR29, PHI 7
7.15 commuterman - Bernard Berrian, WR40, MIN 8
8.02 commuterman - Issac Bruce, WR43, SF 9

Half way point and I like my team. The bye-week issues are not a problem here with every position clearly covered each week (except for QB but that will be resolved in the second half of my draft).

QB - solid should put up good numbers everyweek as poor defense means high scoring games and lots of passing in the second half. Passed on a number of backups to gain depth in other areas

RB - 3 starters (don't know many teams in SSL4 that can say that). None of them are top tier but all should get the bulk of the carries as long as they remain healthy.

WR - Arguably 4 #1 WRs for their respective teams and should be complentary in a best ball game play

Definitely some interesting teams/strategies in this draft, it will be interesting to see it play out.

Noticed a few teams are going to have some serious BYE week issues, outside of the obvious bad start by TRR.

I like this team. You may already have enough strength at RB to run three deep and beef up somewhere else.

Yes, very solid.

Some commentary on my Squadron:

1.01 Stephen Jackson, RB Rams

I'm either the Survivor Hero or Survivor Goat for passing on Tomlinson, but outside of No Mercy, this is the only Free League I play in, so why not? I mean, this is SSL IV...it's not like I can fall any lower...plus, of all the Top RB's I really like Jackson's situation more than any other. As of right now he's healthy, the OLine is healthy, he's got an excellent stable of complementary players around him, and Al Saunders is running the Offense unimpeded by Gibbs, has a chip on his shoulder, and they play Seattle, SF and Arizona 6 Times. Jackson will produce solid #'s weekly, and has a shot to go lights out at least 8 out of 16 Games.

2.16 Wes Welker, WR Patriots
3.01 Chris Cooley, TE Redskins

This is also the only League I play in with more than 12 Teams that isn't either a Dynasty or has an Auction Draft, and one of the few I play outside of the Nationals, where RB, WR and TE get PPR starting with their first Reception. Welker and Cooley fall into my upper tier of PPR Players at their respective positions, and were the best Players available on my Board at these Picks. I'm going to have to see it to believe that Brady to Welker is anything that can be defended effectively, and the Redskins Draft additions are only going to give Cooley more space to work in. WCO TE = $$$. Long wait til 4.16/5.01, though...

4.16 Hines Ward, WR Steelers
5.01 Julius Jones, RB Seahawks

I was THRILLED that Ward lasted til the end of the 4th. Like the Redskins, the Steelers have added Offensive weaponry, but like Cooley, I think that only helps a savvy veteran WR like Ward. While he might see a reduction in Yards and TD's, I don't think he sees any reduction in Receptions. I sweated him making it back to me, and once again was pleasantly surprised to take the Top WR on my Board at the Draft Position. The Jones pick was a toughie, but I started this Draft by taking a Big Chance, and after nailing the last 3 picks, I felt that risk was minimized, so again, I went with a guy who I just had a good gut feeling about. Jeez, what's going on in Seattle anyway? Branch, injured. Engram, Contract Stalemate. Hackett, gone. Julius has opportunity screaming him in the face, and has is another guy who should be playing with a chip on his shoulder in '08. He's an solid receiver, and works for me as a solid fit in the Holmgren WCO, and is another Player from the Fantasy Gold Mine NFC West, who, unlike the other Teams, is also playing with a quality Defense in his back pocket, which may lead to shorter fields and increased scoring opps. Unfortunately, I selected Jones over a QB, and gambled that the run that took place over the next 30 Selections wouldn't be quite so severe. I talked myself out of any # of QB's, most notably Bulger, and may have paid the fiddler by waiting on QB in a League that values QB TD's at 6pts each.

6.16: Matt Leinart, QB Cardinals
7.01: DJ Hackett, WR Panthers

Ugh, what a QB run. Didn't take enough of a look at the residual effect Manning and Brady on the same Team could have, in terms of forcing an economy at the position with the remaining Teams. Didn't like any of the remaining Starters or Situations, so I looked the remaining dregs with an eye towards Total Passing Offense, and felt Arizona had the most upside, and that Warner would fall to me later in the Draft, and give me an insurance shot at claiming the other half of all the Boldin/Fitz etc production. That same thinking turned me on to Hackett, in terms of crafting a #3 WR out of those remaining. Despite the Delhomme situation, I'm high on the Carolina Football Team Offense, and felt strongly that Muhammed would make it into the later Rounds. The question was, how early I'd have to Draft Warner and Muhammed to complete the sets I was banking on...

8.16 Kurt Warner, QB Cardinals
9.01 Muhsin Muhammed, WR Panthers

Well, the next 30 Players selected answered THAT question, and while I feel these picks may have been somewhat reaches, Strategy wound up taking precedence here. Almost every player I figured would go between my last 2 picks and these went off the board, and almost in the order I'd predicted - few, if any, slips in this bunch. It started with the 1st Pick - I'm either Survivor Hero or Goat, and my final Standing will largely be based on how this Strategy plays itself out over the course of the Season.

I strongly feel that once you decide upon a Strategy, you have to stick to it, and ride it out to it's full conclusion. I may still have some work to do, but I'm not sweating nearly as much as I was at the 6/7 turn. I've got some remaining hunches to play, and I'm eager to see how these two Rounds play out.

Solid Group of Drafters here. Kudos on the job well done so far, if not in the picks, but the Theories and reasoning behind them.

Not wild about Laurent Robinson as my WR4, but he's moved into the starting lineup and I expect his numbers to improve from last year. I also think there's some sneaky upside there since he could conceivably supplant White as the team's best receeiver.

lot of it depends on camp reports - petrino's guys loved him last year, but what's that say nothing

Well he started over Horn in the recent mini camp. That's why Horn is raising a big fuss and demanding a trade.

I think the ATL coaches know where their bread is buttered. White and Robinson will start. Jenkins will be a reserve flanker. Douglas will get some work out of the slot.