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David Yudkin
Here is the LINK to the Anrachy League 1 Draft Web Site.
The default password for all teams is: anarchy.
The draft has been turned on.
The clock is currently off.
People can make picks at any time.
Please predraft whenever possible.
Once everyone is informed the draft has started and makes a pick, I will turn the timer on.
If someone misses a pick, they will get a placeholder pick (BPA) selected by the MFL system. AN OWNER CAN PM ME A REPLACEMENT PICK FOR THAT PLAYER and if that player is still available at the time I get the PM, I will swap that pick. I am generally around and on-line, so usually I can get to swap picks within 2-3 hours worst case.

Here is the randomly generated draft order . . .

1 jurb26
2 Jason Wood
3 Unlucky
4 Twilight
5 Bueno
6 Carlton Gray
7 Bostonfred
8 Gatorman
9 Dickey Moe
10 PurpleHaze67
11 BassNBrew
12 David Yudkin
13 LHUCKS
14 Aaron Rudnicki
15 Hear-The-Footsteps
16 SLBD

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Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll
QUOTE (David Yudkin @ Aug 6 2008, 04:27 AM) *
16 SLBD

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bueno
QUOTE (Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll @ Aug 6 2008, 07:14 AM) *
QUOTE (David Yudkin @ Aug 6 2008, 04:27 AM) *
16 SLBD

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Cheer up Buddy. Anything to make me competitive! wink1.gif
Unlucky
Is the scoring system on the MFL site our scoring system?

If not, what is the scoring system?
Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll
QUOTE (bueno @ Aug 6 2008, 08:17 AM) *
QUOTE (Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll @ Aug 6 2008, 07:14 AM) *
QUOTE (David Yudkin @ Aug 6 2008, 04:27 AM) *
16 SLBD

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Cheer up Buddy. Anything to make me competitive! wink1.gif

I really wasn't going to play this year. I have no time. But after that draw, I also have no choice -- never woulda heard the end of it.

Sneaky of Yudkin to enter me...yes.gif


Oh well. football.gif

David Yudkin
QUOTE (Unlucky @ Aug 6 2008, 05:20 PM) *
Is the scoring system on the MFL site our scoring system?

If not, what is the scoring system?

I carried over the league set up from one year to the next each year . . . so if the league scoring set up on the web site is WRONG, let me know. But as far as I know it is correct (unless someone points me to an error somewhere).
David Yudkin
QUOTE (Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll @ Aug 6 2008, 06:41 PM) *
QUOTE (bueno @ Aug 6 2008, 08:17 AM) *
QUOTE (Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll @ Aug 6 2008, 07:14 AM) *
QUOTE (David Yudkin @ Aug 6 2008, 04:27 AM) *
16 SLBD

popcorn.gif

shocking.gif

Cheer up Buddy. Anything to make me competitive! wink1.gif

I really wasn't going to play this year. I have no time. But after that draw, I also have no choice -- never woulda heard the end of it.

Sneaky of Yudkin to enter me...yes.gif

Oh well. football.gif

You can duck out if you want . . . last I heard you were a "maybe." I'm sure I can fill your slot if you want to bail (chicken).
Biabreakable
QUOTE (David Yudkin @ Aug 6 2008, 01:45 PM) *
QUOTE (Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll @ Aug 6 2008, 06:41 PM) *
QUOTE (bueno @ Aug 6 2008, 08:17 AM) *
QUOTE (Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll @ Aug 6 2008, 07:14 AM) *
QUOTE (David Yudkin @ Aug 6 2008, 04:27 AM) *
16 SLBD

popcorn.gif

shocking.gif

Cheer up Buddy. Anything to make me competitive! wink1.gif

I really wasn't going to play this year. I have no time. But after that draw, I also have no choice -- never woulda heard the end of it.

Sneaky of Yudkin to enter me...yes.gif

Oh well. football.gif

You can duck out if you want . . . last I heard you were a "maybe." I'm sure I can fill your slot if you want to bail (chicken).


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I was thinking something more like Punky Brewster. Or maybe we should just call him Strux boy.
Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll
Whatever...


So are we waiting on Jason Woods again?
David Yudkin
QUOTE (Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll @ Aug 6 2008, 08:24 PM) *
Whatever...


So are we waiting on Jason Woods again?

No . . . he already picked. Twilight is up and bueno is on deck. Carlton was a good egg and predrafted right after that.
Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll
Thought I'd rile up the JV squad... smile.gif
Unlucky
Well, I had NE QB and LT as the top 2 in my book for sure. I was hoping Peterson would sneak in and I'd land one of them.

I'm still very high on Randy Moss this year, and it's nearly automatic that NE will play at least 2 playoff games, so I grabbed him at #3.
LHUCKS
Exactly where I want to be...right between Rudnicki and Yudkin.
Biabreakable
QUOTE (LHUCKS @ Aug 6 2008, 10:11 PM) *
Exactly where I want to be...right between Rudnicki and Yudkin.


Gaydar off the charts on this one. yucky.gif
Jiggyonthehut
Off and running lol.gif

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Twilight
QUOTE (Biabreakable @ Aug 6 2008, 09:16 PM) *
QUOTE (LHUCKS @ Aug 6 2008, 10:11 PM) *
Exactly where I want to be...right between Rudnicki and Yudkin.


Gaydar off the charts on this one. yucky.gif

pigskinp.gif Just Wrong...
Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll
Hey David, we're doubling playoff points this year, right? We should finally do that, for fun. Why not? We could use a little suspense at the end finally. And the playoffs to boot! DO IT.
David Yudkin
QUOTE (Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll @ Aug 7 2008, 10:57 AM) *
Hey David, we're doubling playoff points this year, right? We should finally do that, for fun. Why not? We could use a little suspense at the end finally. And the playoffs to boot! DO IT.

No.

A couple of the other leagues saw the guys at the top change a lot over the playoffs last year. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll
QUOTE (David Yudkin @ Aug 7 2008, 03:09 AM) *
QUOTE (Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll @ Aug 7 2008, 10:57 AM) *
Hey David, we're doubling playoff points this year, right? We should finally do that, for fun. Why not? We could use a little suspense at the end finally. And the playoffs to boot! DO IT.

No.

A couple of the other leagues saw the guys at the top change a lot over the playoffs last year. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

PERFECT!

That's the point, it IS broke. You've included playoffs to do what? Extend are FF season and make drafting more interesting by adding a spin. So let that happen!

I like the idea. But as it stands, the playoff influence and interest is minimal. So fix it. What's cool about the league is the different format.

And the argument that nobody really knows who's going to the playoffs is silly. That's the fun in it -- we're all Nostradamus want-to-be's to begin with. Reward the ones that hit it.

It's not like we're playing for money. Hell, at least up to 150% of the regular season...


Anyway, my .02. Now who's on the clock? Lemme guess, bostonfred?!?!
BassNBrew
Thanks for the pm sonny...would have totally forgotten about this. I pm'd david.
Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll
QUOTE (BassNBrew @ Aug 7 2008, 05:23 PM) *
Thanks for the pm sonny...would have totally forgotten about this. I pm'd david.

No worries.

If you all could simply p-mail whoever is after you, it will make this SO much better for everybody involved. thumbup1.gif This much, we've learned.

Also, pre-drafting is EVERYBODY'S friend. yes.gif bow2.gif

Thanks...
BassNBrew
That's for the 1st round gift folks.
LHUCKS
I roadtripped to Colorado last night for a wedding here in Durango so apologies for the delay...predrafted my next pick.


As for Steven Jackson sliding to me...you sure you guys don't wanna do-over??
Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll
Gimme some Goregonzo beans.
David Yudkin
QUOTE (Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll @ Aug 8 2008, 09:03 PM) *
Gimme some Goregonzo beans.

Sadly, I have no problems with either or your picks. I was hoping you'd really muck things up and be out of it after two picks. The draft is still early, though . . .
Unlucky
QUOTE (LHUCKS @ Aug 8 2008, 08:55 AM) *
I roadtripped to Colorado last night for a wedding here in Durango so apologies for the delay...predrafted my next pick.


As for Steven Jackson sliding to me...you sure you guys don't wanna do-over??


I almost took him at #3. I can't believe he fell that far. Marion Barber over him? Gimme a break. Reggie Wayne?
CalBear
QUOTE (Unlucky @ Aug 8 2008, 02:07 PM) *
QUOTE (LHUCKS @ Aug 8 2008, 08:55 AM) *
I roadtripped to Colorado last night for a wedding here in Durango so apologies for the delay...predrafted my next pick.


As for Steven Jackson sliding to me...you sure you guys don't wanna do-over??


I almost took him at #3. I can't believe he fell that far. Marion Barber over him? Gimme a break. Reggie Wayne?


Reggie Wayne outscored all RBs last year in this format. He outscored the #3 RB by 90 points.
Unlucky
I am not stoked on LHUCKS having SJax and LJ. Could be some major value there.

I am stoked on having Moss and Chad, the #1 and #3 WRs on my board. I am a bit higher on Chad than most this year. In this format, I don't care about Chad having huge variation in his weekly scores, so long as he scores a lot.

Definitely some reaches early on, like Jones-Drew and Reggie Bush. I'm not a big fan of either due to load sharing duties.
Jiggyonthehut
QUOTE (Unlucky @ Aug 10 2008, 01:26 AM) *
I am not stoked on LHUCKS having SJax and LJ. Could be some major value there.


I'd be more frightened by the pink polo.
BassNBrew
QUOTE (Unlucky @ Aug 8 2008, 05:07 PM) *
QUOTE (LHUCKS @ Aug 8 2008, 08:55 AM) *
I roadtripped to Colorado last night for a wedding here in Durango so apologies for the delay...predrafted my next pick.


As for Steven Jackson sliding to me...you sure you guys don't wanna do-over??


I almost took him at #3. I can't believe he fell that far. Marion Barber over him? Gimme a break. Reggie Wayne?


FBG has them projected the same. Who do you think is more likely to get to the playoffs? Barber is a slam dunk over Sjax.
BassNBrew
QUOTE (LHUCKS @ Aug 8 2008, 10:55 AM) *
I roadtripped to Colorado last night for a wedding here in Durango so apologies for the delay...predrafted my next pick.


As for Steven Jackson sliding to me...you sure you guys don't wanna do-over??


Not really, I had that pick as the biggest reach of the draft.
BassNBrew
QUOTE (Unlucky @ Aug 10 2008, 02:26 AM) *
I am not stoked on LHUCKS having SJax and LJ. Could be some major value there.

I am stoked on having Moss and Chad, the #1 and #3 WRs on my board. I am a bit higher on Chad than most this year. In this format, I don't care about Chad having huge variation in his weekly scores, so long as he scores a lot.

Definitely some reaches early on, like Jones-Drew and Reggie Bush. I'm not a big fan of either due to load sharing duties.


Didn't Moss outscore Sjax and LJ combined output last year?
LHUCKS
QUOTE (BassNBrew @ Aug 10 2008, 06:08 PM) *
QUOTE (LHUCKS @ Aug 8 2008, 10:55 AM) *
I roadtripped to Colorado last night for a wedding here in Durango so apologies for the delay...predrafted my next pick.


As for Steven Jackson sliding to me...you sure you guys don't wanna do-over??


Not really, I had that pick as the biggest reach of the draft.


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LHUCKS
QUOTE (BassNBrew @ Aug 10 2008, 06:10 PM) *
QUOTE (Unlucky @ Aug 10 2008, 02:26 AM) *
I am not stoked on LHUCKS having SJax and LJ. Could be some major value there.

I am stoked on having Moss and Chad, the #1 and #3 WRs on my board. I am a bit higher on Chad than most this year. In this format, I don't care about Chad having huge variation in his weekly scores, so long as he scores a lot.

Definitely some reaches early on, like Jones-Drew and Reggie Bush. I'm not a big fan of either due to load sharing duties.


Didn't Moss outscore Sjax and LJ combined output last year?



I think everybody should draft players based on what they scored last year.
Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll
Waiting on bostonfred like always. Unreal.
Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll
So I go to hold bostonfred's hand in a p-mail, show him our draft he signed up for and stuff...when I see he's already been around this morning. Yep, started a thread in the baseball forum seeking help with Jerry Dickburnhurst or something.

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BassNBrew
QUOTE (LHUCKS @ Aug 11 2008, 12:00 AM) *
QUOTE (BassNBrew @ Aug 10 2008, 06:10 PM) *
QUOTE (Unlucky @ Aug 10 2008, 02:26 AM) *
I am not stoked on LHUCKS having SJax and LJ. Could be some major value there.

I am stoked on having Moss and Chad, the #1 and #3 WRs on my board. I am a bit higher on Chad than most this year. In this format, I don't care about Chad having huge variation in his weekly scores, so long as he scores a lot.

Definitely some reaches early on, like Jones-Drew and Reggie Bush. I'm not a big fan of either due to load sharing duties.


Didn't Moss outscore Sjax and LJ combined output last year?



I think everybody should draft players based on what they scored last year.


Might be an improvement over your finish the last couple of years.
BassNBrew
QUOTE (LHUCKS @ Aug 10 2008, 11:59 PM) *
QUOTE (BassNBrew @ Aug 10 2008, 06:08 PM) *
QUOTE (LHUCKS @ Aug 8 2008, 10:55 AM) *
I roadtripped to Colorado last night for a wedding here in Durango so apologies for the delay...predrafted my next pick.


As for Steven Jackson sliding to me...you sure you guys don't wanna do-over??


Not really, I had that pick as the biggest reach of the draft.


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I guess I was oVVned about SJax being the biggest reach of the draft. How could I forget that you still had 3rd and 4th round draft picks to make.
Twilight
QUOTE (Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll @ Aug 11 2008, 01:30 PM) *
Waiting on bostonfred like always. Unreal.

Considering he's only made his 1st round pick, I'd say it's time to change his team name to COMPUTER, since he's apparently quit. thumbdown.gif
Aaron Rudnicki
clock has expired on bostonfred for 3 straight picks.

wtf
Unlucky
QUOTE (BassNBrew @ Aug 10 2008, 07:05 PM) *
QUOTE (Unlucky @ Aug 8 2008, 05:07 PM) *
QUOTE (LHUCKS @ Aug 8 2008, 08:55 AM) *
I roadtripped to Colorado last night for a wedding here in Durango so apologies for the delay...predrafted my next pick.


As for Steven Jackson sliding to me...you sure you guys don't wanna do-over??


I almost took him at #3. I can't believe he fell that far. Marion Barber over him? Gimme a break. Reggie Wayne?


FBG has them projected the same. Who do you think is more likely to get to the playoffs? Barber is a slam dunk over Sjax.


Well, I don't have SJax and Barber projected the same. I have SJax as the #2 RB on my board, well ahead of Barber. Everyone had SJax in their top 3 last year, and now that he's healthy again, in a contract year, and has Al Saunders running the offense, why not expect monster numbers?
David Yudkin
QUOTE (Aaron Rudnicki @ Aug 11 2008, 11:33 PM) *
clock has expired on bostonfred for 3 straight picks.

wtf

The original league rules called for beheading owners that missed three consecutive picks. Wish I had kept those in place now . . .
BassNBrew
QUOTE (David Yudkin @ Aug 11 2008, 10:39 PM) *
QUOTE (Aaron Rudnicki @ Aug 11 2008, 11:33 PM) *
clock has expired on bostonfred for 3 straight picks.

wtf

The original league rules called for beheading owners that missed three consecutive picks. Wish I had kept those in place now . . .


Just give him Curtis Martin....same difference.
Biabreakable
QUOTE (BassNBrew @ Aug 11 2008, 05:48 PM) *
QUOTE (LHUCKS @ Aug 10 2008, 11:59 PM) *
QUOTE (BassNBrew @ Aug 10 2008, 06:08 PM) *
QUOTE (LHUCKS @ Aug 8 2008, 10:55 AM) *
I roadtripped to Colorado last night for a wedding here in Durango so apologies for the delay...predrafted my next pick.


As for Steven Jackson sliding to me...you sure you guys don't wanna do-over??


Not really, I had that pick as the biggest reach of the draft.


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I guess I was oVVned about SJax being the biggest reach of the draft. How could I forget that you still had 3rd and 4th round draft picks to make.


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BassNBrew
QB: Saints
RB: McGahee, Fatdale
WR: CJ2
TE: Witten

Pretty satisfied with this start. Witten was a no brainer in the first and I had him rated higher than several of the guys drafted before him. I've always waited to draft a team QB and usually finish in the upper half of this league but never in contention. I've bled too many points to the top teams on a yearly basis. I expect the Saints to be playoff bound and Bress could put up huge points this year. While I would make the same pick, the fact that QB picks have been sparse in this league have reduced the value of this pick. McGahee and White should put up respectable numbers for me at the RB position. Both were last in their tier when i selected them. Honestly not sure why I draft CJ over some others except that I've never had him on a team. It was pretty much a coin flip at the time and none of the WRs I was looking at were a threat to do much in the post season. The part I like about this draft the best is that I'm balanced at this stage and can draft for value at any position for the next few rounds.
BassNBrew
David, care to explain the Miller pick to me? As a flexible pick, I think you left some serious points on the board by not going WR or RB at that spot.
David Yudkin
QUOTE (BassNBrew @ Aug 12 2008, 02:13 PM) *
David, care to explain the Miller pick to me? As a flexible pick, I think you left some serious points on the board by not going WR or RB at that spot.

Miller should again clock in at 200-225 points and I can use him as a flex. Teams that will end up not using a TE at a flex will most likely not come close to that out of the flex spot.

A RB5 or WR 6 will probably only score 50 points. IMO, I am more confident in getting some decent WR in the next few rounds vs letting more TE go off the board.

In essence, I see only a few TE left in as decent scoring options. I still see a couple dozzen decent WR options. IMO, I will lose out a a few points at WR but will make up a bigger chunk in the FLEX spot.

IMO, we are almost at a point where RBs are not worth much unless you hit on the right ones.
BassNBrew
QUOTE (David Yudkin @ Aug 12 2008, 11:01 AM) *
QUOTE (BassNBrew @ Aug 12 2008, 02:13 PM) *
David, care to explain the Miller pick to me? As a flexible pick, I think you left some serious points on the board by not going WR or RB at that spot.

Miller should again clock in at 200-225 points and I can use him as a flex. Teams that will end up not using a TE at a flex will most likely not come close to that out of the flex spot.

A RB5 or WR 6 will probably only score 50 points. IMO, I am more confident in getting some decent WR in the next few rounds vs letting more TE go off the board.

In essence, I see only a few TE left in as decent scoring options. I still see a couple dozzen decent WR options. IMO, I will lose out a a few points at WR but will make up a bigger chunk in the FLEX spot.

IMO, we are almost at a point where RBs are not worth much unless you hit on the right ones.


Once you've filled your starting requirement it comes down to a raw point issue so looking at what will be available later in the draft is a non-issue. For Miller to be the right pick there he had to be projected higher than every other WR on your board. Of course that excludes the delta expected from leaving everyone else one less TE.
David Yudkin
QUOTE (BassNBrew @ Aug 12 2008, 04:58 PM) *
QUOTE (David Yudkin @ Aug 12 2008, 11:01 AM) *
QUOTE (BassNBrew @ Aug 12 2008, 02:13 PM) *
David, care to explain the Miller pick to me? As a flexible pick, I think you left some serious points on the board by not going WR or RB at that spot.

Miller should again clock in at 200-225 points and I can use him as a flex. Teams that will end up not using a TE at a flex will most likely not come close to that out of the flex spot.

A RB5 or WR 6 will probably only score 50 points. IMO, I am more confident in getting some decent WR in the next few rounds vs letting more TE go off the board.

In essence, I see only a few TE left in as decent scoring options. I still see a couple dozzen decent WR options. IMO, I will lose out a a few points at WR but will make up a bigger chunk in the FLEX spot.

IMO, we are almost at a point where RBs are not worth much unless you hit on the right ones.


Once you've filled your starting requirement it comes down to a raw point issue so looking at what will be available later in the draft is a non-issue. For Miller to be the right pick there he had to be projected higher than every other WR on your board. Of course that excludes the delta expected from leaving everyone else one less TE.

I understand what you are saying . . . that whether you are filling a last spot as a FLEX or as a WR you still are having a spot to fill from a diluted talent pool.

I liked Miller's chances better than some of the WRs available at that point. I also think the talent pool at WR is pretty deep, so there will be some decent options later on. I also understand that later on there will be some hard to digest options for all of us.

I have Miller pegged for a similar scoring total as last year with maybe a few more receptions. I have the other guys that were left doing slightly worse than they did last year, so in my book Miller will score slightly more.

I don't think there's a dramatic scoring difference one way or the other here.
Biabreakable
QUOTE (BassNBrew @ Aug 12 2008, 12:58 PM) *
QUOTE (David Yudkin @ Aug 12 2008, 11:01 AM) *
QUOTE (BassNBrew @ Aug 12 2008, 02:13 PM) *
David, care to explain the Miller pick to me? As a flexible pick, I think you left some serious points on the board by not going WR or RB at that spot.

Miller should again clock in at 200-225 points and I can use him as a flex. Teams that will end up not using a TE at a flex will most likely not come close to that out of the flex spot.

A RB5 or WR 6 will probably only score 50 points. IMO, I am more confident in getting some decent WR in the next few rounds vs letting more TE go off the board.

In essence, I see only a few TE left in as decent scoring options. I still see a couple dozzen decent WR options. IMO, I will lose out a a few points at WR but will make up a bigger chunk in the FLEX spot.

IMO, we are almost at a point where RBs are not worth much unless you hit on the right ones.


Once you've filled your starting requirement it comes down to a raw point issue so looking at what will be available later in the draft is a non-issue. For Miller to be the right pick there he had to be projected higher than every other WR on your board. Of course that excludes the delta expected from leaving everyone else one less TE.


I am going to have to disagree with Anarchy's assessment and reasoning for taking Health Miller 4.05 as his flex player being a wise decision when there were many other starters available.

I do not see taking Miller as the 10th TE off the board hedging the other owners out from being able to re-coup value from the position. TE's drafted after this such as Scheffler, Vernon Davis ect. are not losing much ground if any to Miller imho.

I also do not see how locking up your flex position so early will give you a benifit in total points. You seem to be saying that by scoring X points from the flex position it will give you an advantage over every other team because you drafted the flex so highly. That is debatable although the logic suggests you are comparing a player you drafted in the 4th round to players other owners will draft in round 18. You SHOULD ouscore those players from the flex position but I fail to see how that gives you any strategic advantage.

When you drafted Miller only 18 WR were off the board. You could have drafted Megatron, Marshall, Driver, Cotch ect. you did come back and get Driver in round 5.. imagine if you had gotten Cotch and Driver.. you would be in a lot better shape imo.. 3 WR and only 2 more needed to fill..

Or you could have drafted RB Edge, Grahm, McFadden, Turner, FWP, Tom Jones.. these guys are starters and I am certain the ones who do not get injured will outscore Miller in total points while your opponents get a weaker flex..maybe.. you have ZERO RB and need 4.

The only way I see this working in Anarchy's favor is if he pulls some comatose bargain starters at RB/WR in rounds 17 to compete with what he has lost at those starting positions.
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