WCWarlords2008
Aug 19 2008, 07:16 AM
Interested in getting some thoughts from the shark pool on the relative merits of these 2nd-3rd rd CB's taken in this years draft.
Chevis Jackson, Terrence Wheatley, Brandon Carr and Terrell Thomas.
Jackson seems the most likely to get early playing time at this point (at least based on the reports I've read) but it sounds like Carr is a fave of Edwards in KC already. Thomas appears to be in a very crowded situation and I have no idea at all what is going on with the Pats DB's these days.
The Jacket
Aug 19 2008, 11:02 AM
Carr is the nickel already in KC and, as you say, is loved by Herm Edwards. I don't know how deep of a dynasty you'd have to be in to consider him, but do so at some point. He's big and fast, and in terms of value there's good upside there.
Jene Bramel
Aug 19 2008, 11:25 AM
QUOTE (WCWarlords2008 @ Aug 19 2008, 09:16 AM)

Interested in getting some thoughts from the shark pool on the relative merits of these 2nd-3rd rd CB's taken in this years draft.
Chevis Jackson, Terrence Wheatley, Brandon Carr and Terrell Thomas.
Jackson seems the most likely to get early playing time at this point (at least based on the reports I've read) but it sounds like Carr is a fave of Edwards in KC already. Thomas appears to be in a very crowded situation and I have no idea at all what is going on with the Pats DB's these days.
All are going to get snaps at some point, and probably soon. None definitely fit the mold of a long-term value, though. Maybe a CB2-3 with some noise around their big weeks, but I don't think any is more likely than the other to be a consistent weekly option. You've got the right group picked out to watch, though. I'm also interested in these guys, especially Carr and Wheatley.
MAC_32
Aug 19 2008, 11:28 AM
Good group of prospects listed, I'm a big Chevis fan. Another to keep an eye on, Antwaun Molden.
Rovers
Aug 19 2008, 12:53 PM
Dwight Lowery.... pushing both Miller and Barret hard to start opposite Revis. Could be in the safety rotation as well. He doesn't have clock speed, but he has football quicks and a nose for the ball, something Mangini loves to see.
Rovers
Aug 19 2008, 07:26 PM
The NY Daily news reported that Lowery was working with the 1's at Jets camp today... I project him and Revis to be the week 1 starters at CB.
Rozelle
Aug 19 2008, 08:32 PM
QUOTE (MAC_32 @ Aug 19 2008, 01:28 PM)

Good group of prospects listed, I'm a big Chevis fan. Another to keep an eye on, Antwaun Molden.
I like Molden also. If memory serves, Reeves didn't play very well last week. Haven't heard anything lately on Robinson. He'll start the year on the PUP for sure. He may be ready after the bye (8), I have my doubts. That sure was a nasty injury, tore knee up and I think he tore hamstring off the bone... ouch.
Anthony Borbely
Aug 20 2008, 04:48 AM
I like Carr and Lowery the most for this year. It appears both could start and they will be targeted by QBs.
Bizkiteer
Aug 20 2008, 07:12 AM
Not a true ROOKIE, but Brandon McDonald should get similar numbers as a rookie CB. Many are always looking for the Rookie CB because they get thrown at often, which leads to higher numbers. He's starting and playing opposite of Eric Wright in CLE. CLE CB's have been putting up some very consistant #'s over the past few years.
Bizkiteer
Aug 20 2008, 07:16 AM
QUOTE (Anthony Borbely @ Aug 20 2008, 06:48 AM)

I like Carr and Lowery the most for this year. It appears both could start and they will be targeted by QBs.
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The Star Ledger reports New York Jets CB Justin Miller seems to have won the right cornerback job over CB David Barrett, who is playing mainly in nickel and dime packages. Rookie CB Dwight Lowery continues to impress.
This sounds more inline. Although Lowery has perfomed well, I doubt they throw him into the fire right away. He most likely will eventually become the #3 CB during the season. Maybe he's the #2 next season.
bcr8f
Aug 20 2008, 09:48 AM
Is Charles Godfrey a FS now?
The Man With No Name
Aug 20 2008, 09:51 AM
QUOTE (bcr8f @ Aug 20 2008, 11:48 AM)

Is Charles Godfrey a FS now?
Jene Bramel
Aug 20 2008, 01:15 PM
QUOTE (bcr8f @ Aug 20 2008, 11:48 AM)

Is Charles Godfrey a FS now?
Yep. He was drafted specifically to fill that role in April and has been the starter in Carolina since minicamp.
Rovers
Aug 20 2008, 10:38 PM
QUOTE (Bizkiteer @ Aug 20 2008, 08:16 AM)

QUOTE (Anthony Borbely @ Aug 20 2008, 06:48 AM)

I like Carr and Lowery the most for this year. It appears both could start and they will be targeted by QBs.
QUOTE
The Star Ledger reports New York Jets CB Justin Miller seems to have won the right cornerback job over CB David Barrett, who is playing mainly in nickel and dime packages. Rookie CB Dwight Lowery continues to impress.
This sounds more inline. Although Lowery has perfomed well, I doubt they throw him into the fire right away. He most likely will eventually become the #3 CB during the season. Maybe he's the #2 next season.
Trust me on this one.... seriously... trust me... Miller is ahead of Barrett, but Lowery is moving ahead of Miller. Miller is NOT the sharpest knife in the drawer, although he has all the physical tools. Lowery covers and comes up for tackles the way Mangini wants from a CB, while Miller still free lances too much and still doesn't get the coverage scheme responsibilities he has in the scheme. Add the fact that Lowery not only had a college history for having a nose for the ball, he has continued that trait into the next level, the NFL, albeit preseason, and Mangini LOOOOVES that.
KellysHeroes
Aug 21 2008, 12:18 PM
QUOTE (Rovers @ Aug 20 2008, 10:38 PM)

QUOTE (Bizkiteer @ Aug 20 2008, 08:16 AM)

QUOTE (Anthony Borbely @ Aug 20 2008, 06:48 AM)

I like Carr and Lowery the most for this year. It appears both could start and they will be targeted by QBs.
QUOTE
The Star Ledger reports New York Jets CB Justin Miller seems to have won the right cornerback job over CB David Barrett, who is playing mainly in nickel and dime packages. Rookie CB Dwight Lowery continues to impress.
This sounds more inline. Although Lowery has perfomed well, I doubt they throw him into the fire right away. He most likely will eventually become the #3 CB during the season. Maybe he's the #2 next season.
Trust me on this one.... seriously... trust me... Miller is ahead of Barrett, but Lowery is moving ahead of Miller. Miller is NOT the sharpest knife in the drawer, although he has all the physical tools. Lowery covers and comes up for tackles the way Mangini wants from a CB, while Miller still free lances too much and still doesn't get the coverage scheme responsibilities he has in the scheme. Add the fact that Lowery not only had a college history for having a nose for the ball, he has continued that trait into the next level, the NFL, albeit preseason, and Mangini LOOOOVES that.
Lowery will be ahead of Miller or will be spliting the snaps... Miller is a good Nickle CB, were Lowery is going to develop into a good starter next to Revis. Toss in farva putting up points and forcing other teams to score... this is going to be a good yr for Jet DBs.
KellysHeroes
Aug 23 2008, 05:22 PM
Watching The NYJ vs NYG game... Miller seem to start, but Lowery has come in the next series..
The Jacket
Aug 24 2008, 12:41 PM
Brandon Carr played well. Wouldn't know the tackle numbers without looking them up but he covered well and had a pick.
saintfool
Aug 25 2008, 12:35 AM
QUOTE (The Jacket @ Aug 24 2008, 01:41 PM)

Brandon Carr played well. Wouldn't know the tackle numbers without looking them up but he covered well and had a pick.
isn't flowers starting though?
The Jacket
Aug 25 2008, 06:23 AM
QUOTE (saintfool @ Aug 25 2008, 06:35 AM)

QUOTE (The Jacket @ Aug 24 2008, 01:41 PM)

Brandon Carr played well. Wouldn't know the tackle numbers without looking them up but he covered well and had a pick.
isn't flowers starting though?
Yes, but Carr is already the third corner, and there's a lot of talk that he is going to be hard to keep out of the starting lineup, especially with Surtain's age.
Based on the ugly LB situation, I like the value of all KC's DBs. Carr should get himself in on a lot plays along with Flowers. Both have been very active in run support so far this preseason, especially Flowers, who had four solos in about a half of action Saturday.
KellysHeroes
Aug 25 2008, 08:31 AM
My drafts are over... and I only got this guy in one. But 1st yr starter Chris Houston from Atl will be tested this yr.
JEB
Aug 25 2008, 08:45 AM
ebcpastor2004
Aug 27 2008, 01:28 PM
Good topic.
What will happen with Leodis McKelvin this year? Starting CB? Return yards?
TIA
Rovers
Sep 7 2008, 01:39 PM
Reaper
Sep 8 2008, 07:49 AM
QUOTE (Rovers @ Sep 7 2008, 03:39 PM)

There's a Lowery Thread - Hitch your wagon over there buddy
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