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daddymag
If you need to ask for a technicality if it was a no-hitter, it wasn't a no-hitter. IMO.

KingPrawn
Very, very poor call by the official scorer. Unfortunate for CC and the Brewers. But you can't go back and change it. Pitching in the 8th or 9th inning with one hit (albeit a questionable one) is much less pressure than pitching knowing you have no-no on the line.
Giantseasonticketholder
99.9% of the time when a play like that happens, it's ruled a hit. I don't see any reason to change it here.
Flash
QUOTE (Giantseasonticketholder @ Sep 1 2008, 11:23 AM) *
99.9% of the time when a play like that happens, it's ruled a hit. I don't see any reason to change it here.

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If you're talking little league yes.

This is the big leagues son, and that was a clear error. Anyone who saw it and said it wasn't, well they just really have no clue about baseball.

An absolutely horrible call.
the moops
QUOTE (Flash @ Sep 1 2008, 11:28 AM) *
QUOTE (Giantseasonticketholder @ Sep 1 2008, 11:23 AM) *
99.9% of the time when a play like that happens, it's ruled a hit. I don't see any reason to change it here.

X

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If you're talking little league yes.

This is the big leagues son, and that was a clear error. Anyone who saw it and said it wasn't, well they just really have no clue about baseball.

An absolutely horrible call.

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I can see that play being called a hit some days, and an error other days. Wasn't clear either way.
Capella
Definitely a hit.
Doctor Detroit
I thought it could have gone either way but I probably would have given a hit there too. shrug2.gif
Giantseasonticketholder
QUOTE (Flash @ Sep 1 2008, 12:28 PM) *
QUOTE (Giantseasonticketholder @ Sep 1 2008, 11:23 AM) *
99.9% of the time when a play like that happens, it's ruled a hit. I don't see any reason to change it here.

X

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If you're talking little league yes.

This is the big leagues son, and that was a clear error. Anyone who saw it and said it wasn't, well they just really have no clue about baseball.

An absolutely horrible call.


I understand you are slightly biased, but more often than not, that is ruled a hit. I believe my knowledge of baseball to be slightly higher than yours as well.
Ghost Rider
QUOTE (the moops @ Sep 1 2008, 01:21 PM) *
QUOTE (Flash @ Sep 1 2008, 11:28 AM) *
QUOTE (Giantseasonticketholder @ Sep 1 2008, 11:23 AM) *
99.9% of the time when a play like that happens, it's ruled a hit. I don't see any reason to change it here.

X

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If you're talking little league yes.

This is the big leagues son, and that was a clear error. Anyone who saw it and said it wasn't, well they just really have no clue about baseball.

An absolutely horrible call.

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I can see that play being called a hit some days, and an error other days. Wasn't clear either way.


Exactly. Flash, like it or not, I have seen plays similar to that be called hits before IN THE BIG LEAGUES, Mr. Condescending.
Eviloutsider
In all honesty, I think it should have been ruled an error at first then gone back and changed to a hit when the next hit was given up. You can't give the first hit of a game to something like that because of this very reason.

Gun to my head, I would call it an error but I can see it both ways.
crewmember
QUOTE (Flash @ Sep 1 2008, 10:28 AM) *
QUOTE (Giantseasonticketholder @ Sep 1 2008, 11:23 AM) *
99.9% of the time when a play like that happens, it's ruled a hit. I don't see any reason to change it here.

X

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If you're talking little league yes.

This is the big leagues son, and that was a clear error. Anyone who saw it and said it wasn't, well they just really have no clue about baseball.

An absolutely horrible call.


I think I heard on espn that 10 official score keepers were polled and 8 out of 10 said they thought it was a hit. It was a bang bang play and most people thought it was a hit. And most times it is ruled a hit, this is only being scrutnized because of the unusual circumstances.


I'm not gonna shed any tears for CC, if he made an error he doesn't really deserve a no hitter anyway(IMO)
This is one of those things that people that hate baseball must think fans of the sport are so stupid. We want a guy who made an error to be credited with a no-hitter because he made an error. I fail to come up with an analogy using another sport of something similar(prob because it doesn't exist)
Oh Yes!
who cares?

maybe he tried to commit an error to preserve his NH? who knows.

it was a hit.
crewmember
QUOTE (Oh Yes! @ Sep 1 2008, 10:13 PM) *
who cares?

maybe he tried to commit an error to preserve his NH? who knows.

it was a hit.


That was a suspicious drop after picking it up with those big hands.

From the same guy that snagged that line drive with his bare hands in an unbelivable play.
Flash
QUOTE (Capella @ Sep 1 2008, 03:28 PM) *
Definitely a hit.

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Flash
QUOTE (Giantseasonticketholder @ Sep 1 2008, 06:57 PM) *
QUOTE (Flash @ Sep 1 2008, 12:28 PM) *
QUOTE (Giantseasonticketholder @ Sep 1 2008, 11:23 AM) *
99.9% of the time when a play like that happens, it's ruled a hit. I don't see any reason to change it here.

X

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If you're talking little league yes.

This is the big leagues son, and that was a clear error. Anyone who saw it and said it wasn't, well they just really have no clue about baseball.

An absolutely horrible call.


I understand you are slightly biased, but more often than not, that is ruled a hit. I believe my knowledge of baseball to be slightly higher than yours as well.

I doubt that. I really doubt that.

Bias or no bias, it was an error. CC had to go 3 steps off the mound. Easy, routine play.
Now if he had to run to the baseline and pick it up, that's a different story.
Capella
Sorry mr pack, but it was a hit. Take the homer glasses off, "son".
Flash
QUOTE (Capella @ Sep 2 2008, 08:34 AM) *
Sorry mr pack, but it was a hit. Take the homer glasses off, "son".

I don't really care about the no-no now anyway, it would be tarnished now.

Not a homer call here at all. It would have been an error by any pitcher. He clearly would have had him out if he fielded it properly. The runner was only halfway to first when he touched it.
Have you even seen it? I doubt it......lol

Like I said, if he had to run more than 3 steps, then I would have been ok with the call.

If this had been your Rays you would be crying a river.

Capella
No, I wouldn't care at all, actually. No-hitters mean almost nothing to me.

I've seen the play plenty of times and each time I think it's a hit. So do plenty of other people. Let it go.
Clifton
Capella, lets bury the hatchet. Whaddya say?
Capella
QUOTE (Clifton @ Sep 2 2008, 11:30 AM) *
Capella, lets bury the hatchet. Whaddya say?


I was unaware of any hatchet.
Please See Mine
Are Melvin and Yost out of their minds? I've never heard anyone care so much about a no-hitter in my life. Sabathia doesn't even care (or at least has not expressed an iota of caring publicly).

Brewers' GM wants to change scoring system
Flash
QUOTE (Please See Mine @ Sep 2 2008, 12:41 PM) *
Are Melvin and Yost out of their minds? I've never heard anyone care so much about a no-hitter in my life. Sabathia doesn't even care (or at least has not expressed an iota of caring publicly).

Brewers' GM wants to change scoring system

Yea, this is a bit overbaord.

It was an error, and an error in scoring.

From Jim Leyland:

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Yost’s opinion was backed up by Detroit manager Jim Leyland on Monday.

“Error. Definitely an error,” Leyland said. “The guy wasn’t halfway to first
Sweetcan
QUOTE (Please See Mine @ Sep 2 2008, 12:41 PM) *
Are Melvin and Yost out of their minds? I've never heard anyone care so much about a no-hitter in my life. Sabathia doesn't even care (or at least has not expressed an iota of caring publicly).

Brewers' GM wants to change scoring system



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Totally some cry-baby #### goin on with Yost when he should be talking about the win in general. This just gives his players more stupid #### to talk about instead of keeping their minds on the playoff hunt.
wilked
Officially ruled a hit


As it should be
Wrigley
QUOTE (wilked @ Sep 3 2008, 05:32 PM) *
Officially ruled a hit


As it should be


Wasn't it "officially" ruled a hit at the game?

####### crybaby's.
Flash
QUOTE (Wrigley @ Sep 3 2008, 07:36 PM) *
QUOTE (wilked @ Sep 3 2008, 05:32 PM) *
Officially ruled a hit


As it should be


Wasn't it "officially" ruled a hit at the game?

####### crybaby's.

About the response I'd expect from a classless cub fan.

Wrigley
QUOTE (Flash @ Sep 9 2008, 07:32 PM) *
QUOTE (Wrigley @ Sep 3 2008, 07:36 PM) *
QUOTE (wilked @ Sep 3 2008, 05:32 PM) *
Officially ruled a hit


As it should be


Wasn't it "officially" ruled a hit at the game?

####### crybaby's.

About the response I'd expect from a classless cub fan.


Classless is complaining about a personal accomplishment, in a team sport.



Now it's been ruled a hit, twice.
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