I drafted June but noticed 2 guys on the WW that may be better.

Pisa Tinoisamoa (STL) and Daryl Smith (JAX)

Cato June has bye week of 10, and that's when I'll need the most help, as both my RBs have byes. Are either of the above guys an upgrade given these circumstances?

Redraft league with scoring TKL = 1, AST = 0.5, SACK = 5, INT = 4, FUM = 3, PD = 1

All these guys are about the same. Who else is on the WW?

20 team league, ill comb the WW later but i think they'd all be about the same.

I wouldn't trust Tino until he proves he can stay healthy for longer than a couple of games. June is out of the nickel packages -- for now -- which makes Smith a better play. However, with that scoring system, it might be worth looking for a big play option on the weeks you'll need to start whomever you're picking up. Matchup plays like Lamarr Woodley or Calvin Pace, etc, who you wouldn't otherwise feel comfortable rostering might be great one week risks in this system.

yeah, both woodley and pace are taken. i sorted yahoo by projected season totals and the top 10 guys are (not all LB, but can fill the same roster spot).

Ty Warren NE
Daryl Smith JAX
Alex Brown CHI
Leonard Little STL
Ahmad Brooks SF
Shaun Ellis NYJ
Adam Cariker STL
Paul Spicer JAX
Richard Seymour NE
Mike Patterson PHI

Are any of them worth dropping June for? or for that matter Charles Grant whom is on my team because i read he has good upside.

I'd bring Little in for Grant. Daryl Smith is a better immediate option than June, but he might lose nickel snaps to Justin Durant by midseason.

i was just offered vinatieri for june. i think i might take him up on it, if daryl smith is just as good right now.

I would do that too, one of the rare times I would accept a kicker for a LB. There are other LB options that are just as good.

whats the reasoning for little > grant? everywhere i look grant is higher in projections? is it the manslaughter charges...

Where are you looking?

Norton's 2008 full season projections have Little well ahead of Grant (FBG scoring, but Little would have a bigger edge in your sack heavy system).
Rudnicki's 2008 full season projections are much closer, but still have Little ahead of Grant in FBG scoring, again higher in your system.
Five of five staffers with rankings in the last seven days have Little ahead of Grant with Little the 15th overall and Grant the 25th overall consensus DL.

My impression was that you were looking for a season-long option, not a Week 1 starter, but in case I was mistaken:

Norton's early IDP Week 1 projections have Little ahead of Grant in FBG standard scoring and again a still larger difference in your system.

My opinion mirrors the consensus opinion above.

Little struggled through a severe toe injury last season, and had a long history of 40 solo - 10 sack seasons prior to that. In 2006, he was 56-12. All reports have him healthy and at his old level of explosiveness in camp. There's definitely risk involved with Little, but Grant hasn't been nearly as productive when healthy in recent seasons (similar tackle numbers but only 12 sacks over the past three seasons) and has struggled with injury himself at times.

I like Grant, too, and he does have reasonable upside. However, I think Grant's days of 50 solos and 10+ sacks are likely over and much less likely to return than Little's.

thanks a lot, you have a lot more resources than i. i will look to little for now, and yes i was looking for a year long option.

im in a new predicament now as the trade for vinatieri wont process before sunday. im favored right now to win without the kicker, but we know how fickle predictions are.

do i ...
1. try to pick up longwell off waivers (i say try b/c i have 18/20 priority) and drop an idp?
2. pick up a different kicker amongst Mare, seabass, nedney, carney, kris brown, prater and drop an idp?
3. roll the dice and go without a kicker and wait for the trade to go through?
4. pick up a kicker/drop an idp this week and wait for the trade to go through and pick up an idp to fill in for the one i lost?

and of my idps who would you drop (sharper, rashean mathis, dawkins)

If you're not starting him, I think I'd drop Mathis for a kicker, then replace the bench spot when you get Vinatieri. I'd probably do the same even if you are starting him. I think the a kicker may be more likely to get 10 points than Mathis.

i talked with another guy and he says drop brodie croyle, my backup to pennington. the thing is, this is a 20 team league and QB are slim pickins. and drop mathis even though hes starting against VY?

Yeah, that's the rub. If you think Mathis is a lock for a big play tonight, then you keep him in the lineup. If you think he's a significant risk of minimal numbers, you have to consider taking a kicker if there's one you think will have a good week. Mathis had two solos and a pick and five solos with a PD in his two games against Tennessee in 2007. It's not a clear call, so go with your gut there. If it's really not looking like a close matchup with your opponent this week, one way or the other, I'd wouldn't make any moves.

I'd have a very hard time feeling comfortable dropping Croyle if that likely leaves you with Pennington as your only QB for the rest of the season.

i just realized i said pennington, i actually have rodgers...but the same applies

lol so much for little. i reupped on grant again, and dropped croyle for collins.