cheese
Footballguy
Agree with those listed here. I would add Burleson and maybe Lee Evans from the mid-priced WRs. Manningham will be WR2 for lots of teams. I'm surprised more teams aren't listing Olsen.
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Donsmith753
Footballguy
Ryan Williams $15 0.3% :(
David Gettis $ 5 0.1% :(
Tony Moeaki $ 9 1.1% :(
John Carlson $ 2 1.4% :(
Peyton Manning $26 0.2%
David Gettis $ 5 0.1% :(
Tony Moeaki $ 9 1.1% :(
John Carlson $ 2 1.4% :(
Peyton Manning $26 0.2%
Donsmith753
Footballguy
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
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Matthew Stafford $18 0.00 bye
Sam Bradford $17 0.00 bye
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Mark Ingram $26 0.00 bye
Felix Jones $23 0.00 bye
Chris Wells $16 0.00 bye
Jason Snelling $6 0.00 bye
Ben Tate $3 0.00 bye
Marion Barber $3 0.00 bye
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Larry Fitzgerald $28 0.00 bye
Dez Bryant $21 0.00 bye
Mike Sims-Walker $11 0.00 bye
Nate Burleson $8 0.00 bye
Jordan Shipley $4 0.00 bye
Harry Douglas $4 0.00 bye
Antonio Brown $3 0.00 bye
Denarius Moore $3 0.00 bye
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Jermichael Finley $22 0.00 bye
Aaron Hernandez $10 0.00 bye
Lance Kendricks $6 0.00 bye
Evan Moore $2 0.00 bye
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Shaun Suisham $3 0.00 bye
Olindo Mare $2 0.00 bye
Jay Feely $2 0.00 bye
Phil Dawson $2 0.00 bye
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Arizona Cardinals $3 0.00 bye
Buffalo Bills $2 0.00 bye
Jacksonville Jaguars $2 0.00 bye
I really don't like my team. I liked my first version better.
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Matthew Stafford $18 0.00 bye
Sam Bradford $17 0.00 bye
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Mark Ingram $26 0.00 bye
Felix Jones $23 0.00 bye
Chris Wells $16 0.00 bye
Jason Snelling $6 0.00 bye
Ben Tate $3 0.00 bye
Marion Barber $3 0.00 bye
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Larry Fitzgerald $28 0.00 bye
Dez Bryant $21 0.00 bye
Mike Sims-Walker $11 0.00 bye
Nate Burleson $8 0.00 bye
Jordan Shipley $4 0.00 bye
Harry Douglas $4 0.00 bye
Antonio Brown $3 0.00 bye
Denarius Moore $3 0.00 bye
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Jermichael Finley $22 0.00 bye
Aaron Hernandez $10 0.00 bye
Lance Kendricks $6 0.00 bye
Evan Moore $2 0.00 bye
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Shaun Suisham $3 0.00 bye
Olindo Mare $2 0.00 bye
Jay Feely $2 0.00 bye
Phil Dawson $2 0.00 bye
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Arizona Cardinals $3 0.00 bye
Buffalo Bills $2 0.00 bye
Jacksonville Jaguars $2 0.00 bye
I really don't like my team. I liked my first version better.
apalmer
Footballguy
I wish more people would use this format to post their teams. A list of players alone is boring and doesn't have much value. That same list with a few short lines showing the strategy and thought process behind the selections is gold.
FF Maestro
Footballguy
Matthew Stafford
Colt McCoy
Rex Grossman
Peyton Hillis
Knowshon Moreno
Chris Wells
Danny Woodhead
Deji Karim
Ben Tate
Marion Barber
Isaac Redman
LaRod Stephens-Howling
Brandon Lloyd
Mario Manningham
Santana Moss
Lance Moore
Nate Burleson
Earl Bennett
Bernard Berrian
Antonio Brown
Denarius Moore
Owen Daniels
Lance Kendricks
Evan Moore
Josh Brown
Shaun Suisham
Jay Feely
Houston Texans
St. Louis Rams
Denver Broncos
Colt McCoy
Rex Grossman
Peyton Hillis
Knowshon Moreno
Chris Wells
Danny Woodhead
Deji Karim
Ben Tate
Marion Barber
Isaac Redman
LaRod Stephens-Howling
Brandon Lloyd
Mario Manningham
Santana Moss
Lance Moore
Nate Burleson
Earl Bennett
Bernard Berrian
Antonio Brown
Denarius Moore
Owen Daniels
Lance Kendricks
Evan Moore
Josh Brown
Shaun Suisham
Jay Feely
Houston Texans
St. Louis Rams
Denver Broncos
comfortably numb
Footballguy
WHO HOO!!Ryan Williams $15 0.3% :(
David Gettis $ 5 0.1% :(
Tony Moeaki $ 9 1.1% :(
John Carlson $ 2 1.4% :(
Peyton Manning $26 0.2%
comfortably numb
Footballguy
Number of entries by roster size
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18 3568
19 1393
20 1059
21 836
22 766
23 641
24 547
25 396
26 415
27 296
28 269
29 214
30 376
Is 18 always this high?
Could have sworn the last few years early 20's was the highest?
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18 3568
19 1393
20 1059
21 836
22 766
23 641
24 547
25 396
26 415
27 296
28 269
29 214
30 376
Is 18 always this high?
Could have sworn the last few years early 20's was the highest?
Cantonese32
Footballguy
No sense posting my team as it obviously represents the total consensus of all rostered players this season!
I'm Cantonese32, the most uninteresting team in the contest..."Stay Vanilla my Friends."
I'm Cantonese32, the most uninteresting team in the contest..."Stay Vanilla my Friends."
BroadwayG
Footballguy
Me too, but I've got Titus Young. Luckily 1500/19 is his floor.
BroadwayG
Footballguy
Seems eerily similar to last years #s.
rzrback77
Footballguy
My contest roster
QB - Tom Brady (7) $27 9.8%
QB - Colt McCoy (5) $10 22.2%
RB - Hillis (5) $27 8.8%
RB - Wells (6) $16 29.1%
RB - Hightower (5) $14 37.4%
RB - P. Thomas (11) $7 15.7%
RB - Hardesty (5) $4 11.9%
RB - Ben Tate (11) $3 37.8%
RB - M. Barber (8) $3 13.8%
WR - V. Jackson (6) $25 30.3%
WR - M. Wallace (11) $23 18.7%
WR - M. Williams TB (8) $21 10.9%
WR - Amendola (5) $8 23.9%
WR - E. Royal (6) $7 2.7%
WR - Shipley (7) $4 4.6%
WR - Massaquoi (5) $4 $5.1%
WR - D. Moore (8) $3 26.5%
WR - McCluster (6) $2 14.9%
WR - Parrish (7) $2 3.2%
TE - Daniels (11) $12 25.0%
TE - Z. Miller (6) $9 3.9%
TE - Kendricks (5) $6 38.1%
PK - Feely $2 (6) 23.9%
PK - Mare $2 (9) 6.5%
PK - Nugent $2 (7) 3.4%
DST - Rams (5) $3 13.0%
DST - Broncos (6) $2 14.0%
DST - Bills (7) $2 12.1%
QB - Tom Brady (7) $27 9.8%
QB - Colt McCoy (5) $10 22.2%
RB - Hillis (5) $27 8.8%
RB - Wells (6) $16 29.1%
RB - Hightower (5) $14 37.4%
RB - P. Thomas (11) $7 15.7%
RB - Hardesty (5) $4 11.9%
RB - Ben Tate (11) $3 37.8%
RB - M. Barber (8) $3 13.8%
WR - V. Jackson (6) $25 30.3%
WR - M. Wallace (11) $23 18.7%
WR - M. Williams TB (8) $21 10.9%
WR - Amendola (5) $8 23.9%
WR - E. Royal (6) $7 2.7%
WR - Shipley (7) $4 4.6%
WR - Massaquoi (5) $4 $5.1%
WR - D. Moore (8) $3 26.5%
WR - McCluster (6) $2 14.9%
WR - Parrish (7) $2 3.2%
TE - Daniels (11) $12 25.0%
TE - Z. Miller (6) $9 3.9%
TE - Kendricks (5) $6 38.1%
PK - Feely $2 (6) 23.9%
PK - Mare $2 (9) 6.5%
PK - Nugent $2 (7) 3.4%
DST - Rams (5) $3 13.0%
DST - Broncos (6) $2 14.0%
DST - Bills (7) $2 12.1%
apalmer
Footballguy
Team High Octane:
QB:
T. Brady $27
M. Stafford $18
Want to get at least 25-30 ppg from the QB slot, so I need a stud and a high-scoring backup. A 3rd QB would be nice but was a luxury I couldn't afford. Besides, I'm not buying into the Colt McCoy hype--I think if you're reduced to using him you wn't win the contest anyhow.
RB:
D. McFadden $28
C. Wells $16
R. Bush $15
T. Hightower $14
D. Karim $3
L. Stephens-Howling $2
I. Redman $2
Looking for at least another 25-30 ppg from the RB slot. Thought McFadden was the best value among the top ten guys and Wells, Bush and Hightower were likely to be high value 2nd tier guys. Although Bush & Hightower share a bye week, it's early enough that I'm hoping to survive (I also think most teams are going to have a tough Week 5, so scores should be low that week). I had Barber for a long time, but switched out to Karim mostly because he seems more likely to have the guy in front of him go down. Karim, LSH and Redman are all cheap guys who will get some playing time and may break off a TD run and who could put up very good numbers if they become the starter because of an injury. Karim also provides insurance for injury-prone Beanie.
WR:
D. Bryant $21
S. Johnson $19
L. Moore $10
N. Burleson $8
M. FLoyd $8
A. Brown $3
R. Cobb $3
D. Moore $3
Quantity is definitely the way to go at WR. Hopefully, the multitudes provide at least 45-50 ppw. Bryant adds to my Week 5 bye woes, but seemed like a great points per dollar choice. Flipped a coin between Johnson and Manningham (thought about both, but the fact that they both share Brady's bye week stopped that). Had Lee Evans and Andre Roberts until Wed. morning when I decided I didn't want Evans's week 5 bye, too. When I dropped Evans for Floyd, it created a week 6 bye issue, so Roberts turned into Cobb, D. Moore (one of theose guys you "have to have" because everyone else will and you can't afford to let them be right and not have him) and part of Evan Moore. I think Antonio Brown could be the steal of the year at $3. Ben seems to love him and he may have some huge weeks. Unfortunately, over the last week or two, too many people have noticed the same thing. Cobb won't be consistent, but in that offense he may have 1 or 2 big days, which is the goal with the quantity approach.
TE:
O. Daniels $12
A. Hernandez $10
L. Kendricks $6
E. Moore $2
Looking for 15-20 ppw from the TE spot and another 15 from either TE or WR in the flex spot most weeks. Last year I went with Witten/Davis in the double stud approach, but this year the price difference between the top guys and the 2nd tier seemed too large. Getting these 4 guys for not much more than one of the Big 4 seemed like the way to go.
K:
J. Hanson $4
S. Suisham $3
M. Nugent $2
Hey, it's 3 kickers who will score points and have their bye weeks spread out. No rocket science here. Just trying to ensure 15-20 ppw from the combination of K & D.
D:
Dallas $4
Oakland $4
Arizona $3
See Kicker discussion.
Ended up with 27 guys, which is 2 more than I had last year, mostly because of my changed TE strategy. Last year was a success (17th overall, even with Aaron Rogers missing 2 weeks of the finals), so I'm hoping to get lucky again this year. Biggest risks are week 5 and potential injury risks Wells and Bush (and potential Skeletor victim Hightower) not being available when I need them to cover for McFadden in week 8. Very little in "unique" players but as I said in an earlier post, that's overrated.
QB:
T. Brady $27
M. Stafford $18
Want to get at least 25-30 ppg from the QB slot, so I need a stud and a high-scoring backup. A 3rd QB would be nice but was a luxury I couldn't afford. Besides, I'm not buying into the Colt McCoy hype--I think if you're reduced to using him you wn't win the contest anyhow.
RB:
D. McFadden $28
C. Wells $16
R. Bush $15
T. Hightower $14
D. Karim $3
L. Stephens-Howling $2
I. Redman $2
Looking for at least another 25-30 ppg from the RB slot. Thought McFadden was the best value among the top ten guys and Wells, Bush and Hightower were likely to be high value 2nd tier guys. Although Bush & Hightower share a bye week, it's early enough that I'm hoping to survive (I also think most teams are going to have a tough Week 5, so scores should be low that week). I had Barber for a long time, but switched out to Karim mostly because he seems more likely to have the guy in front of him go down. Karim, LSH and Redman are all cheap guys who will get some playing time and may break off a TD run and who could put up very good numbers if they become the starter because of an injury. Karim also provides insurance for injury-prone Beanie.
WR:
D. Bryant $21
S. Johnson $19
L. Moore $10
N. Burleson $8
M. FLoyd $8
A. Brown $3
R. Cobb $3
D. Moore $3
Quantity is definitely the way to go at WR. Hopefully, the multitudes provide at least 45-50 ppw. Bryant adds to my Week 5 bye woes, but seemed like a great points per dollar choice. Flipped a coin between Johnson and Manningham (thought about both, but the fact that they both share Brady's bye week stopped that). Had Lee Evans and Andre Roberts until Wed. morning when I decided I didn't want Evans's week 5 bye, too. When I dropped Evans for Floyd, it created a week 6 bye issue, so Roberts turned into Cobb, D. Moore (one of theose guys you "have to have" because everyone else will and you can't afford to let them be right and not have him) and part of Evan Moore. I think Antonio Brown could be the steal of the year at $3. Ben seems to love him and he may have some huge weeks. Unfortunately, over the last week or two, too many people have noticed the same thing. Cobb won't be consistent, but in that offense he may have 1 or 2 big days, which is the goal with the quantity approach.
TE:
O. Daniels $12
A. Hernandez $10
L. Kendricks $6
E. Moore $2
Looking for 15-20 ppw from the TE spot and another 15 from either TE or WR in the flex spot most weeks. Last year I went with Witten/Davis in the double stud approach, but this year the price difference between the top guys and the 2nd tier seemed too large. Getting these 4 guys for not much more than one of the Big 4 seemed like the way to go.
K:
J. Hanson $4
S. Suisham $3
M. Nugent $2
Hey, it's 3 kickers who will score points and have their bye weeks spread out. No rocket science here. Just trying to ensure 15-20 ppw from the combination of K & D.
D:
Dallas $4
Oakland $4
Arizona $3
See Kicker discussion.
Ended up with 27 guys, which is 2 more than I had last year, mostly because of my changed TE strategy. Last year was a success (17th overall, even with Aaron Rogers missing 2 weeks of the finals), so I'm hoping to get lucky again this year. Biggest risks are week 5 and potential injury risks Wells and Bush (and potential Skeletor victim Hightower) not being available when I need them to cover for McFadden in week 8. Very little in "unique" players but as I said in an earlier post, that's overrated.
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Doug Drinen
Moderator
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention one exciting* development.
* - only to people in this thread.
This year, just for fun, I recorded all your entries. The "winner" is KingPrawn, who submitted 886 legal entries before the deadline. Next highest was something like 450. Actually, I only started counting a couple days after it went live, so that doesn't count any changes made in the first few days.
Because I don't want to be charged with cruel and unusual punishment, I will NOT be telling you how many of your unsubmitted entries would have won the whole thing had you stuck with them. Or maybe I will. The Turk has to have some fun after his week 3 elimination.
* - only to people in this thread.
This year, just for fun, I recorded all your entries. The "winner" is KingPrawn, who submitted 886 legal entries before the deadline. Next highest was something like 450. Actually, I only started counting a couple days after it went live, so that doesn't count any changes made in the first few days.
Because I don't want to be charged with cruel and unusual punishment, I will NOT be telling you how many of your unsubmitted entries would have won the whole thing had you stuck with them. Or maybe I will. The Turk has to have some fun after his week 3 elimination.
Saint
Footballguy
QB - Tom Brady - NE/7 - $27
QB - Colt McCoy - CLE/5 - $10
Based on previous years, I have always found the Top 5 QBs always provide consistency in scoring for the most part in this format. McCoy at $10 seemed highway robbery with upside this year. So sorry apalmer, gotta disagree here. I think the Winner has McCoy on his roster this year. I debated the Rivers/McCoy combo, but with the early bye week for Brady, it really limited RB/WR selections, so I ended up going with Brady to push his bye into week 7.
RB - Steven Jackson - STL/5 - $25
RB - Chris Wells - ARI/6 - $16
RB - Reggie Bush - MIA/5 - $15
RB - Bernard Scott - CIN/7 - $9
RB - Marion Barber - CHI/8 - $3
I can't even begin to talk the changes here. For the RB Squad, I wanted the main guys to get receptions. Once Ryan Williams went down, Beanie Wells became a no brainer for his cost and the amount of touches he will get. SJax on an improved STL offense should stabilize the RB squad and Bush has tremendous upside if he is the main guy. As for Bernard Scott, I expect that by mid-season he should be the starter in Cincinnati, which would be low cost return. Barber is money at $3 for GL vulturing.
WR - Calvin Johnson - DET/9 - $31
WR - Vincent Jackson - SD/6 - $25
WR - Santana Moss - WAS/5 - $16
WR - Mike Sims-Walker - STL/5 - $11
WR - Plaxico Burress - NYJ/8 - $10
WR - Earl Bennett - CHI/8 - $8
WR - Denarius Moore - OAK/8 - $3
WR - Dexter McCluster - KC/6 - $2
WR scoring is the most variable scoring. I wanted to put some serious money here to get some serious consistency. Hard to do better than CJ and VJAX. Moss is Mr. Consistency in scoring for this style of play with PPR. MSW/Burress should be solid flex play from week to week. I like Bennett's upside and think he could be WR 1 in the Martz offense which could be gold. Moore, yeah I bought the hype. McCluster intrigues me. They've used him a lot in preseason. If he continues to get 5-6 receptions per game, plus some rushes he could be value for being only $2 and may become a flex play at times.
TE - Owen Daniels - HOU/11 - $12
TE - Kevin Boss - OAK/8 - $7
TE - Lance Kendricks - STL/5 - $6
Let's face it. Daniels/Kendricks will probably be on everyone's roster. Boss is a guy I liked at NY, but with OAK's leading receiver being a TE the last several years, hard to see Boss not producing in that offense. I think he has good potential and at $7 bucks a steal.
PK - Olindo Mare - CAR/9 - $2
PK - Jay Feely - ARI/6 - $2
PK - Phil Dawson - CLE/5 - $2
TD - Houston Texans - HOU/11 - $3
TD - Arizona Cardinals - ARI/6 - $3
TD - Buffalo Bills - BUF/7 - $2
The rest I just plugged in around bye weeks. Cheapo's work here due to 3-starters and can usually max production.
QB - Colt McCoy - CLE/5 - $10
Based on previous years, I have always found the Top 5 QBs always provide consistency in scoring for the most part in this format. McCoy at $10 seemed highway robbery with upside this year. So sorry apalmer, gotta disagree here. I think the Winner has McCoy on his roster this year. I debated the Rivers/McCoy combo, but with the early bye week for Brady, it really limited RB/WR selections, so I ended up going with Brady to push his bye into week 7.
RB - Steven Jackson - STL/5 - $25
RB - Chris Wells - ARI/6 - $16
RB - Reggie Bush - MIA/5 - $15
RB - Bernard Scott - CIN/7 - $9
RB - Marion Barber - CHI/8 - $3
I can't even begin to talk the changes here. For the RB Squad, I wanted the main guys to get receptions. Once Ryan Williams went down, Beanie Wells became a no brainer for his cost and the amount of touches he will get. SJax on an improved STL offense should stabilize the RB squad and Bush has tremendous upside if he is the main guy. As for Bernard Scott, I expect that by mid-season he should be the starter in Cincinnati, which would be low cost return. Barber is money at $3 for GL vulturing.
WR - Calvin Johnson - DET/9 - $31
WR - Vincent Jackson - SD/6 - $25
WR - Santana Moss - WAS/5 - $16
WR - Mike Sims-Walker - STL/5 - $11
WR - Plaxico Burress - NYJ/8 - $10
WR - Earl Bennett - CHI/8 - $8
WR - Denarius Moore - OAK/8 - $3
WR - Dexter McCluster - KC/6 - $2
WR scoring is the most variable scoring. I wanted to put some serious money here to get some serious consistency. Hard to do better than CJ and VJAX. Moss is Mr. Consistency in scoring for this style of play with PPR. MSW/Burress should be solid flex play from week to week. I like Bennett's upside and think he could be WR 1 in the Martz offense which could be gold. Moore, yeah I bought the hype. McCluster intrigues me. They've used him a lot in preseason. If he continues to get 5-6 receptions per game, plus some rushes he could be value for being only $2 and may become a flex play at times.
TE - Owen Daniels - HOU/11 - $12
TE - Kevin Boss - OAK/8 - $7
TE - Lance Kendricks - STL/5 - $6
Let's face it. Daniels/Kendricks will probably be on everyone's roster. Boss is a guy I liked at NY, but with OAK's leading receiver being a TE the last several years, hard to see Boss not producing in that offense. I think he has good potential and at $7 bucks a steal.
PK - Olindo Mare - CAR/9 - $2
PK - Jay Feely - ARI/6 - $2
PK - Phil Dawson - CLE/5 - $2
TD - Houston Texans - HOU/11 - $3
TD - Arizona Cardinals - ARI/6 - $3
TD - Buffalo Bills - BUF/7 - $2
The rest I just plugged in around bye weeks. Cheapo's work here due to 3-starters and can usually max production.
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Matthew Stafford $18
Sam Bradford $17
Colt McCoy $10
Rashard Mendenhall $31
Frank Gore $29
Reggie Bush $15
Tim Hightower $14
Pierre Thomas $7
Kendall Hunter $6
Mike Sims-Walker $11
Plaxico Burress $10
Lee Evans $10
Nate Burleson $8
Earl Bennett $8
Eric Decker $6
Antonio Brown $3
Randall Cobb $3
Denarius Moore $3
Owen Daniels $12
Lance Kendricks $6
Evan Moore $2
Matt Prater $3
Josh Brown $3
Shaun Suisham $3
Jay Feely $2
Tennessee Titans $4
Houston Texans $3
St. Louis Rams $3
Sam Bradford $17
Colt McCoy $10
Rashard Mendenhall $31
Frank Gore $29
Reggie Bush $15
Tim Hightower $14
Pierre Thomas $7
Kendall Hunter $6
Mike Sims-Walker $11
Plaxico Burress $10
Lee Evans $10
Nate Burleson $8
Earl Bennett $8
Eric Decker $6
Antonio Brown $3
Randall Cobb $3
Denarius Moore $3
Owen Daniels $12
Lance Kendricks $6
Evan Moore $2
Matt Prater $3
Josh Brown $3
Shaun Suisham $3
Jay Feely $2
Tennessee Titans $4
Houston Texans $3
St. Louis Rams $3
Organized Chaos
Footballguy
Matthew Stafford $18
Colt McCoy $10
Andy Dalton $8
Really wanted Stafford here (looks like everyone else had this idea also), Since Its probably that Stafford could get hurt, I grabbed McCoy for value and Dalton as a gamble.
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Jamaal Charles $34
Jahvid Best $25
Reggie Bush $15
Jerome Harrison $5
Ben Tate $3
Derrick Ward $3
Not a lot of people grabbed Best or Charles, so I am happy about that. In best ball, I am really happy with my top three here, then I backed up best and got in on the Houston Sweepstakes.
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Larry Fitzgerald $28
Steve Johnson $19
Nate Burleson $8
Danny Amendola $8
Earl Bennett $8
Jabar Gaffney $7
Denarius Moore $3
Dexter McCluster $2
I went around and around with this one, people that had the opportunity to have inconsistent but potentially large games were on my radar and I wanted to grab a bunch of them and keep the byes to a minimum.
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Aaron Hernandez $10
Greg Olsen $9
Lance Kendricks $6
Looks like a lot of people grabbed some combo of these TE's. I wanted to have at least 3 TE's and these were the best value I could put together with bye's
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Jason Hanson $4
Nick Folk $3
Lawrence Tynes $3
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New Orleans Saints $5
Carolina Panthers $3
Arizona Cardinals $3
Colt McCoy $10
Andy Dalton $8
Really wanted Stafford here (looks like everyone else had this idea also), Since Its probably that Stafford could get hurt, I grabbed McCoy for value and Dalton as a gamble.
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Jamaal Charles $34
Jahvid Best $25
Reggie Bush $15
Jerome Harrison $5
Ben Tate $3
Derrick Ward $3
Not a lot of people grabbed Best or Charles, so I am happy about that. In best ball, I am really happy with my top three here, then I backed up best and got in on the Houston Sweepstakes.
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Larry Fitzgerald $28
Steve Johnson $19
Nate Burleson $8
Danny Amendola $8
Earl Bennett $8
Jabar Gaffney $7
Denarius Moore $3
Dexter McCluster $2
I went around and around with this one, people that had the opportunity to have inconsistent but potentially large games were on my radar and I wanted to grab a bunch of them and keep the byes to a minimum.
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Aaron Hernandez $10
Greg Olsen $9
Lance Kendricks $6
Looks like a lot of people grabbed some combo of these TE's. I wanted to have at least 3 TE's and these were the best value I could put together with bye's
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Jason Hanson $4
Nick Folk $3
Lawrence Tynes $3
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New Orleans Saints $5
Carolina Panthers $3
Arizona Cardinals $3
BroadwayG
Footballguy
Code:
Philip Rivers $24 25.8% owned
Joe Flacco $17 3.0% owned
I teetered with Flacco/Stafford/Freeman to pick behind Rivers. Early bye = good. Uniqueness is added bonus.
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Darren McFadden $28 13.2% owned
Chris Wells $16 29.1% owned
Reggie Bush $15 16.6% owned
Bernard Scott $9 5.4% owned
Justin Forsett $6 0.8% owned
Montario Hardesty $4 11.9% owned
Deji Karim $3 12.7% owned
Chalk. Ugh. Surprised Scott is so little owned even with the $9 price tag given Benson has already spent time behind bars this year.
That boy ain't right. Thankfully I have Forsett to really cheer for here. 11th hour upgrade from Blount to McFadden did nothing as
far as uniqueness.
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Vincent Jackson $25 30.3% owned
Steve Johnson $19 12.8% owned
Nate Burleson $8 30.3% owned
Danny Amendola $8 23.9% owned
Devin Hester $7 3.6% owned
Titus Young $4 0.8% owned
Mohamed Massaquoi $4 5.1% owned
Darrius Heyward-Bey $3 3.6% owned
Denarius Moore $3 26.5% owned
Roscoe Parrish $2 3.2% owned
More Chalk at the top. Shocked Earl Bennett and Hester are both low, was flip flopping them a lot to account for that omni-present
one dollar adjustment. I think I put Massaquai in there just because I always have him on this team. He never does anything.
Heyward-Bey/Moore Oakland double dip for $6 seemed like a no brainer. Same with Burleson/Titus. Apparently you had to have
no brain to do it.
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Aaron Hernandez $10 23.6% owned
Ben Watson $7 2.4% owned
Lance Kendricks $6 38.1% owned
Evan Moore $2 13.4% owned
I feel like I just had to stay after school to clean the erasers. Watson/Moore are the only two players on every single submission
I made. Go nuts week 5 Hernandez! Had Winslow (2.6%) checked until I decided to get McFadden. I am a sheep.
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Josh Brown $3 21.9% owned
Shaun Suisham $3 20.3% owned
Connor Barth $3 3.5% owned
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Houston Texans $3 18.7% owned
St. Louis Rams $3 13.0% owned
Arizona Cardinals $3 14.5% owned
Buffalo Bills $2 12.1% owned
I will be getting little to no push from K/ST play. Went with only 3 K to get an extra WR. Seemed like last year I was always wishing
I had more of those. Go Connor!
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I spent way too much time fiddling with this, and I'm glad the deadline has passed. I believe in the large, balanced lineup. I wanted to spread out the $$$ and roster spots as much as I could. I figured with 30 spots, I would use 3 for each starter (with an extra RB, WR, and TE for the flex). I didn't think there was a cheap 3rd QB, so I used that spot for another $2 kicker.
QB 2/37
RB 7/76
WR 10/93
TE 4/30
K 4/8
D 3/6
QB - Tom Brady (7) $27 9.8%
QB - Colt McCoy (5) $10 22.2%
I switched this at the last minute. I was going to go with the popular Rivers/Stafford combo. I have a good feeling about McCoy this year and this freed up some money. Also looked at Rodgers instead of Brady, but I liked using the extra $ elsewhere.
RB - F. Jones (5) $23 26.8%
RB - Wells (6) $16 29.1%
RB - R. Bush (5) $15 16.6%
RB - Hightower (5) $14 37.4%
RB - D. Karim (9) $4 12.7%
RB - Ben Tate (11) $3 37.8%
RB - Redman (11) $2 10.7%
Lots of the popular choices here. I felt like I was spending a little too much $$$ on the RB spot and went back and forth on switching either Bush or Hightower out for P. Thomas, but I decided to keep all of the cheaper starters.
WR - Fitzgerald (6) $28 14.6%
WR - Manningham (7) $19 19.7%
WR - S. Moss (5) $16 11.5%
WR - Burleson (9) $8 30.3%
WR - Amendola (5) $8 23.9%
WR - Shipley (7) $4 4.6%
WR - A. Brown (11) $3 30.8%
WR - D. Moore (8) $3 26.5%
WR - McCluster (6) $2 14.9%
WR - Parrish (7) $2 3.2%
Switched in Fitzgerald for V. Jackson when I had a few extra dollars from the QB switch. Went with volume of low $ WRs.
TE - Daniels (11) $12 25.0%
TE - Hernandez (7) $10 23.6%
TE - Kendricks (5) $6 38.1%
TE - Evan Moore (5) $2 13.4%
4 of the 5 most popular here.
PK - Feely $2 (6) 23.9%
PK - Mare $2 (9) 6.5%
PK - Nugent $2 (7) 3.4%
PK - Dawson $2 (5) 10.2%
DST - Jaguars (9) $2 6.5%
DST - Broncos (6) $2 14.0%
DST - Bills (7) $2 12.1%
Just went with a volume of cheap options.
QB 2/37
RB 7/76
WR 10/93
TE 4/30
K 4/8
D 3/6
QB - Tom Brady (7) $27 9.8%
QB - Colt McCoy (5) $10 22.2%
I switched this at the last minute. I was going to go with the popular Rivers/Stafford combo. I have a good feeling about McCoy this year and this freed up some money. Also looked at Rodgers instead of Brady, but I liked using the extra $ elsewhere.
RB - F. Jones (5) $23 26.8%
RB - Wells (6) $16 29.1%
RB - R. Bush (5) $15 16.6%
RB - Hightower (5) $14 37.4%
RB - D. Karim (9) $4 12.7%
RB - Ben Tate (11) $3 37.8%
RB - Redman (11) $2 10.7%
Lots of the popular choices here. I felt like I was spending a little too much $$$ on the RB spot and went back and forth on switching either Bush or Hightower out for P. Thomas, but I decided to keep all of the cheaper starters.
WR - Fitzgerald (6) $28 14.6%
WR - Manningham (7) $19 19.7%
WR - S. Moss (5) $16 11.5%
WR - Burleson (9) $8 30.3%
WR - Amendola (5) $8 23.9%
WR - Shipley (7) $4 4.6%
WR - A. Brown (11) $3 30.8%
WR - D. Moore (8) $3 26.5%
WR - McCluster (6) $2 14.9%
WR - Parrish (7) $2 3.2%
Switched in Fitzgerald for V. Jackson when I had a few extra dollars from the QB switch. Went with volume of low $ WRs.
TE - Daniels (11) $12 25.0%
TE - Hernandez (7) $10 23.6%
TE - Kendricks (5) $6 38.1%
TE - Evan Moore (5) $2 13.4%
4 of the 5 most popular here.
PK - Feely $2 (6) 23.9%
PK - Mare $2 (9) 6.5%
PK - Nugent $2 (7) 3.4%
PK - Dawson $2 (5) 10.2%
DST - Jaguars (9) $2 6.5%
DST - Broncos (6) $2 14.0%
DST - Bills (7) $2 12.1%
Just went with a volume of cheap options.
Didn't put as much time into this as I normally do, and I'm not really sure I like how it came out:
QB - Philip Rivers - SD/6 - $24
QB - Sam Bradford - STL/5 - $17
QB - Chad Henne - MIA/5 - $8
RB - Rashard Mendenhall - PIT/11 - $31
RB - Mike Tolbert - SD/6 - $15
RB - Tim Hightower - WAS/5 - $14
RB - Willis McGahee - DEN/6 - $11
RB - Pierre Thomas - NO/11 - $7
RB - Ben Tate - HOU/11 - $3
RB - Mike Goodson - CAR/9 - $3
WR - Roddy White - ATL/8 - $30
WR - Plaxico Burress - NYJ/8 - $10
WR - Lance Moore - NO/11 - $10
WR - Nate Burleson - DET/9 - $8
WR - Earl Bennett - CHI/8 - $8
WR - Antonio Brown - PIT/11 - $3
WR - Denarius Moore - OAK/8 - $3
TE - Aaron Hernandez - NE/7 - $10
TE - Lance Kendricks - STL/5 - $6
TE - Travis Beckum - NYG/7 - $5
PK - Matt Bryant - ATL/8 - $4
PK - Josh Brown - STL/5 - $3
PK - Ryan Succop - KC/6 - $3
TD - Detroit Lions - DET/9 - $6
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/8 - $5
TD - Houston Texans - HOU/11 - $3
QB - Philip Rivers - SD/6 - $24
QB - Sam Bradford - STL/5 - $17
QB - Chad Henne - MIA/5 - $8
RB - Rashard Mendenhall - PIT/11 - $31
RB - Mike Tolbert - SD/6 - $15
RB - Tim Hightower - WAS/5 - $14
RB - Willis McGahee - DEN/6 - $11
RB - Pierre Thomas - NO/11 - $7
RB - Ben Tate - HOU/11 - $3
RB - Mike Goodson - CAR/9 - $3
WR - Roddy White - ATL/8 - $30
WR - Plaxico Burress - NYJ/8 - $10
WR - Lance Moore - NO/11 - $10
WR - Nate Burleson - DET/9 - $8
WR - Earl Bennett - CHI/8 - $8
WR - Antonio Brown - PIT/11 - $3
WR - Denarius Moore - OAK/8 - $3
TE - Aaron Hernandez - NE/7 - $10
TE - Lance Kendricks - STL/5 - $6
TE - Travis Beckum - NYG/7 - $5
PK - Matt Bryant - ATL/8 - $4
PK - Josh Brown - STL/5 - $3
PK - Ryan Succop - KC/6 - $3
TD - Detroit Lions - DET/9 - $6
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/8 - $5
TD - Houston Texans - HOU/11 - $3
at everyone obsessing on their entries. At best, you've got a 1/2000 chance.Wow, really close to my team. I switched out Bush for McGahee last minute and have some different WRs and Bradford instead of Brady:Matthew Stafford $18 Sam Bradford $17 Darren McFadden $28 Chris Wells $16 Tim Hightower $14 Willis McGahee $11 Montario Hardesty $4 Deji Karim $3 Ben Tate $3 Larry Fitzgerald $28 Dez Bryant $21 Mike Sims-Walker $11 Braylon Edward $9 Danny Amendola $8 Antonio Brown $3 Denarius Moore $3 Owen Daniels $12 Aaron Hernandez $10 Greg Olsen $9 Lance Kendricks $6 Nick Folk $3 Rian Lindell $2 Olindo Mare $2 Dallas Cowboys $4 Houston Texans $3 Buffalo Bills $2Team High Octane:QB:T. Brady $27M. Stafford $18Want to get at least 25-30 ppg from the QB slot, so I need a stud and a high-scoring backup. A 3rd QB would be nice but was a luxury I couldn't afford. Besides, I'm not buying into the Colt McCoy hype--I think if you're reduced to using him you wn't win the contest anyhow.RB. McFadden $28C. Wells $16R. Bush $15T. Hightower $14D. Karim $3L. Stephens-Howling $2I. Redman $2Looking for at least another 25-30 ppg from the RB slot. Thought McFadden was the best value among the top ten guys and Wells, Bush and Hightower were likely to be high value 2nd tier guys. Although Bush & Hightower share a bye week, it's early enough that I'm hoping to survive (I also think most teams are going to have a tough Week 5, so scores should be low that week). I had Barber for a long time, but switched out to Karim mostly because he seems more likely to have the guy in front of him go down. Karim, LSH and Redman are all cheap guys who will get some playing time and may break off a TD run and who could put up very good numbers if they become the starter because of an injury. Karim also provides insurance for injury-prone Beanie.WR
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Ignoratio Elenchi
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, will end up #1 IMO.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Philip Rivers ($24)
Matthew Stafford ($18)
Darren McFadden ($28)
Felix Jones ($23)
Chris Wells ($16)
Tim Hightower ($14)
Willis McGahee ($11)
Jerome Harrison ($5)
Ben Tate ($3)
Dez Bryant ($21)
Lance Moore ($10)
Nate Burleson ($8)
Danny Amendola ($8)
Malcom Floyd ($8)
Jordy Nelson ($7)
Harry Douglas ($4)
Antonio Brown ($3)
Denarius Moore ($3)
Greg Olsen ($9)
Lance Kendricks ($6)
Tony Scheffler ($3)
Evan Moore ($2)
Josh Brown ($3)
Shaun Suisham ($3)
Jay Feely ($2)
Arizona ($3)
Washington ($3)
Buffalo ($2)
Matthew Stafford ($18)
Darren McFadden ($28)
Felix Jones ($23)
Chris Wells ($16)
Tim Hightower ($14)
Willis McGahee ($11)
Jerome Harrison ($5)
Ben Tate ($3)
Dez Bryant ($21)
Lance Moore ($10)
Nate Burleson ($8)
Danny Amendola ($8)
Malcom Floyd ($8)
Jordy Nelson ($7)
Harry Douglas ($4)
Antonio Brown ($3)
Denarius Moore ($3)
Greg Olsen ($9)
Lance Kendricks ($6)
Tony Scheffler ($3)
Evan Moore ($2)
Josh Brown ($3)
Shaun Suisham ($3)
Jay Feely ($2)
Arizona ($3)
Washington ($3)
Buffalo ($2)
3nOut
Footballguy
Matt Ryan $21
Kevin Kolb $15
Andy Dalton $8
Mark Ingram $26
Jahvid Best $25
BenJarvus Green-Ellis $19
Tim Hightower $14
Willis McGahee $11
Pierre Thomas $7
Dez Bryant $21
Austin Collie $19
Nate Burleson $8
Cecil Shorts $3
Antonio Brown $3
Randall Cobb $3
Denarius Moore $3
Dexter McCluster $2
Todd Heap $8
Brent Celek $7
Lance Kendricks $6
Matt Bryant $4
Jason Hanson $4
New York Jets $7
Chicago Bears $6
Kevin Kolb $15
Andy Dalton $8
Mark Ingram $26
Jahvid Best $25
BenJarvus Green-Ellis $19
Tim Hightower $14
Willis McGahee $11
Pierre Thomas $7
Dez Bryant $21
Austin Collie $19
Nate Burleson $8
Cecil Shorts $3
Antonio Brown $3
Randall Cobb $3
Denarius Moore $3
Dexter McCluster $2
Todd Heap $8
Brent Celek $7
Lance Kendricks $6
Matt Bryant $4
Jason Hanson $4
New York Jets $7
Chicago Bears $6
Here's the team the computer built. I just submitted it as-is despite there being players I'd rather not have, but according to my algorithm this is supposedly "the best team available". Several players I thought would definitely be on the final team got dropped after the last round of projections. I starred the players that remained that I've seen pop up on most teams generated this year:
Code:
POS - Player (TEA) - W1 - W2 - W3 - W4 - W5 - W6 - W7 - W8 - W9 - W10 - W11 - W12 - W13 - W14 - W15 - W16 - TotalWR - Larry Fitzgerald (Ari) - 14.2 - 17.1 - 19.2 - 16.3 - 16.0 - 0.0 - 15.0 - 17.3 - 17.8 - 15.5 - 17.6 - 17.8 - 19.0 - 17.6 - 16.9 - 17.4 - 254.60 - 28 WR - Vincent Jackson (SD ) - 15.7 - 17.7 - 17.6 - 15.3 - 16.1 - 0.0 - 15.0 - 17.6 - 14.5 - 14.1 - 15.8 - 16.1 - 18.4 - 14.9 - 16.9 - 16.3 - 242.00 - 25 *WR - Lance Moore (NO ) - 9.9 - 10.7 - 12.6 - 12.5 - 9.5 - 11.2 - 9.8 - 11.8 - 11.2 - 12.3 - 0.0 - 10.9 - 11.1 - 12.2 - 10.6 - 12.3 - 168.30 - 10 *WR - Malcom Floyd (SD ) - 10.1 - 11.4 - 11.3 - 9.9 - 10.4 - 0.0 - 9.7 - 11.3 - 9.4 - 9.1 - 10.2 - 10.4 - 11.8 - 9.6 - 10.9 - 10.5 - 155.70 - 8 *WR - Nate Burleson (Det) - 10.7 - 11.4 - 10.2 - 12.2 - 10.3 - 11.2 - 11.7 - 10.5 - 0.0 - 10.3 - 9.1 - 9.5 - 10.1 - 10.2 - 9.2 - 9.3 - 155.80 - 8 *WR - Danny Amendola (StL) - 9.0 - 9.5 - 10.0 - 9.9 - 0.0 - 8.6 - 11.1 - 9.2 - 10.8 - 9.8 - 11.2 - 10.8 - 10.2 - 11.2 - 10.1 - 8.7 - 150.00 - 8 WR - Mohamed Massaquoi (Cle) - 8.0 - 6.7 - 7.2 - 8.4 - 0.0 - 6.6 - 8.8 - 8.1 - 8.7 - 8.2 - 8.6 - 8.0 - 7.9 - 6.9 - 8.5 - 7.9 - 118.70 - 4 WR - Denarius Moore (Oak) - 8.4 - 7.7 - 7.8 - 9.2 - 9.6 - 8.6 - 9.1 - 0.0 - 8.4 - 7.4 - 8.1 - 8.2 - 8.0 - 7.5 - 8.5 - 9.1 - 125.60 - 3 *TE - Owen Daniels (Hou) - 10.6 - 15.8 - 12.8 - 11.6 - 12.2 - 12.0 - 14.2 - 15.0 - 15.4 - 13.0 - 0.0 - 15.0 - 14.6 - 12.4 - 15.6 - 10.6 - 200.60 - 12 *TE - Aaron Hernandez (NE ) - 14.1 - 14.8 - 14.6 - 10.9 - 12.4 - 10.2 - 0.0 - 10.4 - 11.8 - 12.4 - 10.1 - 15.0 - 9.5 - 9.7 - 13.2 - 14.1 - 183.40 - 10 *TE - Tony Gonzalez (Atl) - 11.2 - 13.8 - 10.7 - 11.1 - 11.9 - 12.9 - 11.6 - 0.0 - 8.8 - 10.6 - 11.7 - 13.2 - 13.4 - 12.9 - 12.4 - 10.6 - 176.70 - 10 *RB - Chris Wells (Ari) - 15.1 - 12.7 - 14.5 - 10.1 - 9.6 - 0.0 - 8.3 - 8.8 - 14.0 - 12.2 - 10.4 - 14.0 - 11.4 - 10.4 - 14.3 - 11.9 - 177.70 - 16 RB - Reggie Bush (Mia) - 10.2 - 13.0 - 13.7 - 9.5 - 0.0 - 8.2 - 15.0 - 9.7 - 13.2 - 12.2 - 15.5 - 11.0 - 15.2 - 11.7 - 15.5 - 10.2 - 183.70 - 15 *RB - Tim Hightower (Was) - 9.3 - 14.1 - 10.5 - 12.9 - 0.0 - 11.2 - 13.8 - 14.8 - 9.5 - 8.6 - 10.5 - 13.4 - 7.8 - 9.8 - 9.3 - 8.8 - 164.10 - 14 RB - Pierre Thomas (NO ) - 5.3 - 6.8 - 7.9 - 7.7 - 8.8 - 8.6 - 7.3 - 8.2 - 8.6 - 6.5 - 0.0 - 5.9 - 9.5 - 6.4 - 5.6 - 6.5 - 109.60 - 7 RB - Marion Barber (Chi) - 4.9 - 5.7 - 4.0 - 6.6 - 7.2 - 4.2 - 6.5 - 0.0 - 5.4 - 7.2 - 4.3 - 7.0 - 6.0 - 6.8 - 6.4 - 4.0 - 86.10 - 3 *QB - Philip Rivers (SD ) - 24.0 - 26.3 - 25.6 - 24.9 - 26.0 - 0.0 - 23.3 - 25.6 - 22.4 - 23.8 - 22.7 - 26.0 - 26.9 - 23.0 - 23.5 - 26.7 - 371.00 - 24 QB - Matthew Stafford (Det) - 21.9 - 22.9 - 21.4 - 24.3 - 20.3 - 22.4 - 23.0 - 23.3 - 0.0 - 20.3 - 19.8 - 20.1 - 21.2 - 21.4 - 21.3 - 20.2 - 323.90 - 18 PK - Mason Crosby (GB ) - 10.2 - 10.7 - 9.0 - 11.7 - 8.0 - 11.2 - 8.9 - 0.0 - 8.3 - 8.9 - 8.6 - 9.5 - 8.2 - 9.7 - 9.8 - 9.0 - 141.60 - 6 PK - Alex Henery (Phi) - 10.1 - 7.2 - 7.4 - 9.9 - 10.5 - 9.4 - 0.0 - 9.8 - 8.1 - 10.7 - 7.4 - 7.1 - 9.3 - 10.4 - 7.7 - 9.8 - 134.90 - 5 PK - Shaun Suisham (Pit) - 7.8 - 8.6 - 9.3 - 7.7 - 9.5 - 8.3 - 9.9 - 6.5 - 7.8 - 8.4 - 0.0 - 8.2 - 8.4 - 8.8 - 9.1 - 9.4 - 127.70 - 3 *DEF - Green Bay (GB ) - 5.3 - 11.5 - 10.1 - 8.0 - 5.0 - 11.4 - 9.7 - 0.0 - 6.7 - 9.7 - 7.7 - 8.9 - 6.5 - 10.8 - 8.7 - 10.1 - 130.10 - 8 DEF - New Orleans (NO ) - 5.5 - 9.7 - 5.3 - 9.1 - 11.1 - 7.4 - 4.6 - 10.9 - 7.4 - 4.8 - 0.0 - 6.2 - 8.6 - 8.1 - 9.3 - 4.8 - 112.90 - 5
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I saw someone else mention the Browns...at one point I had one Cleveland player at every position (McCoy, Hardesty, Cribbs, Moore, Dawson, CleD) and I really didn't see alot of risk (besides the tough schedule at the end of the year), or cost, in doing that. Ended up tweaking the roster somewhat though.....now I'm more Rams heavy, so I'm hoping to get past their tough early schedule.
Philip Rivers $24
Sam Bradford $17
Early on for a while, I had Rodgers and McCoy for $41. I lowered that to $34 with Rivers and McCoy. I'm not sure what happened yesterday, but I decided in the TE section to go from Finley to Graham saving me $7, which ultimately changed my QB pairing to this. I had thoughts about changing around my RB core (I could have gotten upwards of Rice) but for some reason odd reason decided Bradford was my best upgrade using that money. In the end, it looks like my ceiling on QB dollars was $41. There was never much debate this season on 2 vs 3 QBs for me.
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Matt Forte $29
Steven Jackson $25
Chris Wells $16
Ronnie Brown $8
Javon Ringer $3
Ben Tate $3
Cadillac Williams $3
Marion Barber $3
This is where the contest may be won or lost. So many different combinations were possible to build good cores while sprinkling in the upside/low dollar guys. I'm still unsure if I really like this group I ended up with, but I feel it gives me a chance to compete. I don't think I spent dummy money on anyone. I may regret not turning my $7 saved at TE into a Rice or McCoy or Mendenhall instead of Bradford...but those are the tough decisions that come with the contest. I could easily have spent more here at the expense of WR/TE, but I build the team to generally flex around my WR/TE's since I think they are more predictable. I feel I'm still covered cheaply with Caddy and Barber if one of my horses gets dinged...have depth with Wells and Brown...and upside with Ringer and Tate (I have a feeling one of them will prove to be well worth the $3). Had Derrick Ward and Howling in a few iterations, but decided to spend those few dollars elsewhere (and Chester signed with Arz).
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Vincent Jackson $25
Dez Bryant $21
Plaxico Burress $10
Nate Burleson $8
Danny Amendola $8
Denarius Moore $3
Dexter McCluster $2
Josh Cribbs $2
Felt solid at WR through most of the iterations. Early on I had Dez as my #1, but worked the roster around to include VJax with very little expense elsewhere. I love Burleson for $8 and even Amendola...but there were other guys in that area that were interesting also. Driver, James Jones, Lance Moore (injury concerns faded me) and a few more I can't recall. Plaxico is a slight gamble, but I'm hoping he gets alot of red zone looks, and with my $8 guys I decided to go for it. Moore, McCluster, and Cribbs have too much upside for me to pass up in this format...although there were two or three other cheap WRs I liked also. I feel like there is enough depth and quality here to be just fine.
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Jimmy Graham $15
Lance Kendricks $6
Randy McMichael $2
Evan Moore $2
Moore was on from the very beginning. From the point where I took Rivers I felt it neccessary to have McMichael for $2. Really was not spending alot of money here at the start, with Olsen as my top dollar guy, but quickly felt the need to spend more here to ensure solid TE points weekly and possible flex plays. So then one of Gates and Finley were on the team most of the time, but as mentioned above moved from Finley to Graham yesterday to bolster RB or QB (which ended up being QB). I'm high on Graham so I won't regret this move either way...but I may regret what I did with that money.
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Sebastian Janikowski $4
Jay Feely $2
Phil Dawson $2
I don't think there is a need in the contest to spend more than this on kicker. I've had success in the past with three kickers and I probably could have gotten away with three $2 kickers, but decided to roll with Sebastian as I didn't feel like that $2 was getting far anywhere else.
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Tampa Bay Buccaneers $4
Cleveland Browns $3
Feel like this is a good pairing. I'm not one to spend alot on defense and while I may have rostered three a couple times in the past, I didn't see the need this year.
Philip Rivers $24 26%
Sam Bradford $17 19%
Matt Forte $29 5%
Steven Jackson $25 14%
Chris Wells $16 29%
Ronnie Brown $8 2%
Javon Ringer $3 9%
Ben Tate $3 38%
Cadillac Williams $3 2%
Marion Barber $3 14%
Vincent Jackson $25 30%
Dez Bryant $21 21%
Plaxico Burress $10 14%
Nate Burleson $8 30%
Danny Amendola $8 24%
Denarius Moore $3 27%
Dexter McCluster $2 15%
Josh Cribbs $2 7%
Jimmy Graham $15 13%
Lance Kendricks $6 38%
Randy McMichael $2 2%
Evan Moore $2 13%
Sebastian Janikowski $4 11%
Jay Feely $2 24%
Phil Dawson $2 10%
Tampa Bay Buccaneers $4 7%
Cleveland Browns $3 6%
Philip Rivers $24
Sam Bradford $17
Early on for a while, I had Rodgers and McCoy for $41. I lowered that to $34 with Rivers and McCoy. I'm not sure what happened yesterday, but I decided in the TE section to go from Finley to Graham saving me $7, which ultimately changed my QB pairing to this. I had thoughts about changing around my RB core (I could have gotten upwards of Rice) but for some reason odd reason decided Bradford was my best upgrade using that money. In the end, it looks like my ceiling on QB dollars was $41. There was never much debate this season on 2 vs 3 QBs for me.
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Matt Forte $29
Steven Jackson $25
Chris Wells $16
Ronnie Brown $8
Javon Ringer $3
Ben Tate $3
Cadillac Williams $3
Marion Barber $3
This is where the contest may be won or lost. So many different combinations were possible to build good cores while sprinkling in the upside/low dollar guys. I'm still unsure if I really like this group I ended up with, but I feel it gives me a chance to compete. I don't think I spent dummy money on anyone. I may regret not turning my $7 saved at TE into a Rice or McCoy or Mendenhall instead of Bradford...but those are the tough decisions that come with the contest. I could easily have spent more here at the expense of WR/TE, but I build the team to generally flex around my WR/TE's since I think they are more predictable. I feel I'm still covered cheaply with Caddy and Barber if one of my horses gets dinged...have depth with Wells and Brown...and upside with Ringer and Tate (I have a feeling one of them will prove to be well worth the $3). Had Derrick Ward and Howling in a few iterations, but decided to spend those few dollars elsewhere (and Chester signed with Arz).
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Vincent Jackson $25
Dez Bryant $21
Plaxico Burress $10
Nate Burleson $8
Danny Amendola $8
Denarius Moore $3
Dexter McCluster $2
Josh Cribbs $2
Felt solid at WR through most of the iterations. Early on I had Dez as my #1, but worked the roster around to include VJax with very little expense elsewhere. I love Burleson for $8 and even Amendola...but there were other guys in that area that were interesting also. Driver, James Jones, Lance Moore (injury concerns faded me) and a few more I can't recall. Plaxico is a slight gamble, but I'm hoping he gets alot of red zone looks, and with my $8 guys I decided to go for it. Moore, McCluster, and Cribbs have too much upside for me to pass up in this format...although there were two or three other cheap WRs I liked also. I feel like there is enough depth and quality here to be just fine.
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Jimmy Graham $15
Lance Kendricks $6
Randy McMichael $2
Evan Moore $2
Moore was on from the very beginning. From the point where I took Rivers I felt it neccessary to have McMichael for $2. Really was not spending alot of money here at the start, with Olsen as my top dollar guy, but quickly felt the need to spend more here to ensure solid TE points weekly and possible flex plays. So then one of Gates and Finley were on the team most of the time, but as mentioned above moved from Finley to Graham yesterday to bolster RB or QB (which ended up being QB). I'm high on Graham so I won't regret this move either way...but I may regret what I did with that money.
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Sebastian Janikowski $4
Jay Feely $2
Phil Dawson $2
I don't think there is a need in the contest to spend more than this on kicker. I've had success in the past with three kickers and I probably could have gotten away with three $2 kickers, but decided to roll with Sebastian as I didn't feel like that $2 was getting far anywhere else.
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Tampa Bay Buccaneers $4
Cleveland Browns $3
Feel like this is a good pairing. I'm not one to spend alot on defense and while I may have rostered three a couple times in the past, I didn't see the need this year.
Philip Rivers $24 26%
Sam Bradford $17 19%
Matt Forte $29 5%
Steven Jackson $25 14%
Chris Wells $16 29%
Ronnie Brown $8 2%
Javon Ringer $3 9%
Ben Tate $3 38%
Cadillac Williams $3 2%
Marion Barber $3 14%
Vincent Jackson $25 30%
Dez Bryant $21 21%
Plaxico Burress $10 14%
Nate Burleson $8 30%
Danny Amendola $8 24%
Denarius Moore $3 27%
Dexter McCluster $2 15%
Josh Cribbs $2 7%
Jimmy Graham $15 13%
Lance Kendricks $6 38%
Randy McMichael $2 2%
Evan Moore $2 13%
Sebastian Janikowski $4 11%
Jay Feely $2 24%
Phil Dawson $2 10%
Tampa Bay Buccaneers $4 7%
Cleveland Browns $3 6%
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5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Ben Roethlisberger
Kevin Kolb
Two-fold rationale behind these two gentlemen: 1. I love Ben's prospects this year and assumed his late bye would scare off a lot of folks, and 2. Kolb has some pretty nice looking matchups in games I deemed difficult for the Steelers' passing game(as well as Ben's bye).
Matt Forte
Mike Tolbert
Tim Hightower
Willis McGahee
Deji Karim
Ben Tate
Marion Barber
Isaac Redman
I swapped this group around what felt like a million times. Finally settled on Forte as my lead dog given a)how his bye worked with other members of the team, b) the fact that he's heavily involved in the passing game, and c)how cheaply I could acquire his handcuff. I figured Hightower would be heavily owned, but the price was too good to pass up. I expect Tolbert is good for at least 150-180 total touches and is the likely GL back for the Chargers. Not optimum as a 3rd option, but I'll take it. McGahee is a veteran runner in a John Fox run offense that plays in the AFC West, figured it was worth taking a shot on the likes of him over, say, the Danny Woodheads of the league. The rest of the guys are lottery tickets with Redman having the best odds to "pay off." He's slated to actually see a decent amount of work even if Mendenhall remains healthy all year.
Larry Fitzgerald
Dez Bryant
Lance Moore
Emmanuel Sanders
Danny Amendola
Bernard Berrian
Harry Douglas
Antonio Brown
Denarius Moore
Wanted at least one bona fide stud and Fitzgerald took care of that, but think I may have landed a second one with Bryant. I envision Bryant being the guy who may not be a true WR1(top 12-15) for the whole year, but he'll have several weeks where he is the WR1 overall. Moore's groin is a bit of a concern and I contemplated removing him last minute, but decided to keep him on the off chance that a ton of teams dropped him because of it. Amendola should get me steady, boring points as the slot guy in St. Louis, but in that McDaniel's offense maybe he has a bit more oomph. Rest of the wideouts I took were total fliers types that will maybe have one or two big weeks all year. Didn't figure Berrian would be very highly owned, but it's not like the Vikings have a ton of targets so I thought he was worth a shot. I don't really expect either of the Steelers guys to truly "break out", but I can totally see that Steelers WR3 position as a whole "breaking out" this year, so I grabbed both.
Aaron Hernandez
Greg Olsen
Lance Kendricks
Evan Moore
Fully expected the highest owned TEs to be Daniels and Kendricks, given the costs of each. Originally had both rostered as well, but moved shells around and swapped out Daniels for Olsen/Hernandez. Moore was a lottery ticket against him having a few weeks where he winds up getting featured in the RZ.
Mike Nugent
Jay Feely
Phil Dawson
Went cheap.
San Francisco 49ers
Houston Texans
Denver Broncos
Again, went cheap-ish. I think the San Fran D will likely score pretty well in this format(they get to play the rest of the NFC West 8 games, for chrissakes) and I took shots on Houtson/Denver in hopes that their sacks/turnovers increase because of the new schemes they'll be running.
Kevin Kolb
Two-fold rationale behind these two gentlemen: 1. I love Ben's prospects this year and assumed his late bye would scare off a lot of folks, and 2. Kolb has some pretty nice looking matchups in games I deemed difficult for the Steelers' passing game(as well as Ben's bye).
Matt Forte
Mike Tolbert
Tim Hightower
Willis McGahee
Deji Karim
Ben Tate
Marion Barber
Isaac Redman
I swapped this group around what felt like a million times. Finally settled on Forte as my lead dog given a)how his bye worked with other members of the team, b) the fact that he's heavily involved in the passing game, and c)how cheaply I could acquire his handcuff. I figured Hightower would be heavily owned, but the price was too good to pass up. I expect Tolbert is good for at least 150-180 total touches and is the likely GL back for the Chargers. Not optimum as a 3rd option, but I'll take it. McGahee is a veteran runner in a John Fox run offense that plays in the AFC West, figured it was worth taking a shot on the likes of him over, say, the Danny Woodheads of the league. The rest of the guys are lottery tickets with Redman having the best odds to "pay off." He's slated to actually see a decent amount of work even if Mendenhall remains healthy all year.
Larry Fitzgerald
Dez Bryant
Lance Moore
Emmanuel Sanders
Danny Amendola
Bernard Berrian
Harry Douglas
Antonio Brown
Denarius Moore
Wanted at least one bona fide stud and Fitzgerald took care of that, but think I may have landed a second one with Bryant. I envision Bryant being the guy who may not be a true WR1(top 12-15) for the whole year, but he'll have several weeks where he is the WR1 overall. Moore's groin is a bit of a concern and I contemplated removing him last minute, but decided to keep him on the off chance that a ton of teams dropped him because of it. Amendola should get me steady, boring points as the slot guy in St. Louis, but in that McDaniel's offense maybe he has a bit more oomph. Rest of the wideouts I took were total fliers types that will maybe have one or two big weeks all year. Didn't figure Berrian would be very highly owned, but it's not like the Vikings have a ton of targets so I thought he was worth a shot. I don't really expect either of the Steelers guys to truly "break out", but I can totally see that Steelers WR3 position as a whole "breaking out" this year, so I grabbed both.
Aaron Hernandez
Greg Olsen
Lance Kendricks
Evan Moore
Fully expected the highest owned TEs to be Daniels and Kendricks, given the costs of each. Originally had both rostered as well, but moved shells around and swapped out Daniels for Olsen/Hernandez. Moore was a lottery ticket against him having a few weeks where he winds up getting featured in the RZ.
Mike Nugent
Jay Feely
Phil Dawson
Went cheap.
San Francisco 49ers
Houston Texans
Denver Broncos
Again, went cheap-ish. I think the San Fran D will likely score pretty well in this format(they get to play the rest of the NFC West 8 games, for chrissakes) and I took shots on Houtson/Denver in hopes that their sacks/turnovers increase because of the new schemes they'll be running.
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Mustang Man
Footballguy
Philip Rivers $24 0.00 bye
Donovan McNabb $11 0.00 bye
Christian Ponder $4 0.00 bye
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Matt Forte $29 0.00 bye
Felix Jones $23 0.00 bye
Chris Wells $16 0.00 bye
Tim Hightower $14 0.00 bye
Pierre Thomas $7 0.00 bye
Marion Barber $3 0.00 bye
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Vincent Jackson $25 0.00 bye
Dez Bryant $21 0.00 bye
Mario Manningham $19 0.00 bye
Plaxico Burress $10 0.00 bye
Jordy Nelson $7 0.00 bye
Cecil Shorts $3 0.00 bye
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Greg Olsen $9 0.00 bye
Lance Kendricks $6 0.00 bye
Evan Moore $2 0.00 bye
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Alex Henery $5 0.00 bye
Nick Folk $3 0.00 bye
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Baltimore Ravens $6 0.00 bye
Arizona Cardinals $3 0.00 bye
Donovan McNabb $11 0.00 bye
Christian Ponder $4 0.00 bye
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Matt Forte $29 0.00 bye
Felix Jones $23 0.00 bye
Chris Wells $16 0.00 bye
Tim Hightower $14 0.00 bye
Pierre Thomas $7 0.00 bye
Marion Barber $3 0.00 bye
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Vincent Jackson $25 0.00 bye
Dez Bryant $21 0.00 bye
Mario Manningham $19 0.00 bye
Plaxico Burress $10 0.00 bye
Jordy Nelson $7 0.00 bye
Cecil Shorts $3 0.00 bye
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Greg Olsen $9 0.00 bye
Lance Kendricks $6 0.00 bye
Evan Moore $2 0.00 bye
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Alex Henery $5 0.00 bye
Nick Folk $3 0.00 bye
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Baltimore Ravens $6 0.00 bye
Arizona Cardinals $3 0.00 bye
apalmer
Footballguy
apalmer
Footballguy
Bret Maverick: "My Daddy once told me never ride a Colt when everyone else in the race is on a stallion."
KingPrawn
Footballguy
Possible. And for all that, this is what you getunpossible
hilip Rivers $24 Colt McCoy $10Wanted a stud QB and a cheap backup. Rivers was the cheapest option of the top QBs and for $10 McCoy was too good of value to pass up. Also liked the early byes. Liked Roethlisberger for $1 cheaper but hated the week 11 bye.Matt Forte $29 Steven Jackson $25 Chris Wells $16 Cadillac Williams $3 Marion Barber $3 LaRod Stephens-Howling $2Really played around with different combinations here and for the most part had Felix Jones and McFadden here. Taking Forte and Jackson instead allowed me to take their handcuffs as well with very little money spent on them. Liked Reggie Bush and Hightower instead of Wells but their byes clashed with Jackson's. Happy to see Forte with a small % of ownership. Vincent Jackson $25 Dez Bryant $21 Mario Manningham $19 Lee Evans $10 Nate Burleson $8 Bernard Berrian $5 Steve Smith $5 Antonio Brown $3 Dexter McCluster $2 Wanted 3 studs that would score consistently and Jackson was the cheapest of the top WRs that could end up in the top 5. Not really sold on Bryant but didn't like the other receivers in that dollar range that worked with the byes. Had D. Moore in here for pretty much the whole time but swapped in McCluster to give a little variance from every other roster. Took a gamble on Steve Smith (PHI) as I figure he has big upside in that offense and he'd be ignored by most. Owen Daniels $12 Aaron Hernandez $10 Lance Kendricks $6 Evan Moore $2TEs seemed to be pretty much chalk with everybody else. Daniels if healthy is a real bargain at this price. Switched between Olsen and Hernandez a bunch of times. Moore's potential was too good to pass up at $2. Rian Lindell $2 Olindo Mare $2 Jay Feely $2 Buffalo Bills $2 Denver Broncos $2 Would have liked more money to spend on DEF but couldn't find anywhere to give up and still be happy with other positions. Could have swapped D. Moore in for Steve Smith and added another $2 DEF but I liked the variance that Smith gave me.A large % of my money was spent on early bye weeks ($150) with 7 players on bye in week 5 & week 6.
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
QB'S
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Philip Rivers $24 Ryan Fitzpatrick $13
RB'S
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Ray Rice $35 Matt Forte $29 Kendall Hunter $6 Jerome Harrison $5 Ben Tate $3
WR'S
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Larry Fitzgerald $28 Chad Ochocinco $19 Santana Moss $16 Nate Burleson $8 Bernard Berrian $5
TE'S
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Jimmy Graham $15 Owen Daniels $12 Aaron Hernandez $10
K'S
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Neil Rackers $5 Rob Bironas $3 Josh Brown $3
DEF
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New Orleans Saints $5 Houston Texans $3 St. Louis Rams $3
Last year I went with the less is more theory, switching it up this year. I think my lack of WR's could be my down fall.
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Philip Rivers $24 Ryan Fitzpatrick $13
RB'S
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Ray Rice $35 Matt Forte $29 Kendall Hunter $6 Jerome Harrison $5 Ben Tate $3
WR'S
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Larry Fitzgerald $28 Chad Ochocinco $19 Santana Moss $16 Nate Burleson $8 Bernard Berrian $5
TE'S
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Jimmy Graham $15 Owen Daniels $12 Aaron Hernandez $10
K'S
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Neil Rackers $5 Rob Bironas $3 Josh Brown $3
DEF
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New Orleans Saints $5 Houston Texans $3 St. Louis Rams $3
Last year I went with the less is more theory, switching it up this year. I think my lack of WR's could be my down fall.
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LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Nate Burleson will be highly owned too.
Jed
Footballguy
Philip Rivers $24 25.8%
Ryan Fitzpatrick $13 5.9%
Darren McFadden $28 13.2%
Reggie Bush $15 16.6%
Tim Hightower $14 37.4%
Pierre Thomas $7 15.7%
Montario Hardesty $4 11.9%
Marion Barber $3 13.8%
Isaac Redman $2 10.7%
Larry Fitzgerald $28 14.6%
Kenny Britt $21 3.5%
Nate Burleson $8 30.3%
Danny Amendola $8 23.9%
Jordy Nelson $7 8.5%
Harry Douglas $4 9.2%
Mohamed Massaquoi $4 5.1%
Denarius Moore $3 26.5%
Jimmy Graham $15 12.9%
Owen Daniels $12 25.0%
Aaron Hernandez $10 23.6%
Sebastian Janikowski $4 10.9%
Josh Brown $3 21.9%
Phil Dawson $2 10.2%
Houston Texans $3 18.7%
St. Louis Rams $3 13.0%
Washington Redskins $3 4.8%
Buffalo Bills $2 12.1%
The only shockers % wise to me were Fitzpatrick at 5.9%, Massaquoi at 5.1% and Britt at 3.5%. Those are the guys to root for I guess?
Ryan Fitzpatrick $13 5.9%
Darren McFadden $28 13.2%
Reggie Bush $15 16.6%
Tim Hightower $14 37.4%
Pierre Thomas $7 15.7%
Montario Hardesty $4 11.9%
Marion Barber $3 13.8%
Isaac Redman $2 10.7%
Larry Fitzgerald $28 14.6%
Kenny Britt $21 3.5%
Nate Burleson $8 30.3%
Danny Amendola $8 23.9%
Jordy Nelson $7 8.5%
Harry Douglas $4 9.2%
Mohamed Massaquoi $4 5.1%
Denarius Moore $3 26.5%
Jimmy Graham $15 12.9%
Owen Daniels $12 25.0%
Aaron Hernandez $10 23.6%
Sebastian Janikowski $4 10.9%
Josh Brown $3 21.9%
Phil Dawson $2 10.2%
Houston Texans $3 18.7%
St. Louis Rams $3 13.0%
Washington Redskins $3 4.8%
Buffalo Bills $2 12.1%
The only shockers % wise to me were Fitzpatrick at 5.9%, Massaquoi at 5.1% and Britt at 3.5%. Those are the guys to root for I guess?
WisWolvrns
Footballguy
With injuries, 'Revis Island' type WR weeks, and previous history of large rosters vs small rosters, my goal was to get to 30 players.
Matt Ryan $21
Colt McCoy $10
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$31 total for QBs. Didn't want to spend too much more since then I could have a choice of picking a top 3 cost QB. So if I was spending $40+, I might as well take one of the top guys. I like the offensive weapons in Atlanta this year and am hoping Matt Ryan takes his next step to stud QB land. McCoy seemed the board favorite at cost and upside, so figured he would work for my 2nd QB. Originally had Dalton in there, but 2nd year guy vs rookie and Palmer resurfacing the last week had me move to McCoy.
Felix Jones $23
Tim Hightower $14
Pierre Thomas $7
Thomas Jones $7
Jerome Harrison $5
Ben Tate $3
Derrick Ward $3
Isaac Redman $2
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RBs were aggressively priced this year. Tough to get two solid ones for less than $55+, which was hampering the ability to get to 30 players. So took the cheapest starters for my top 2 and then took 6 secondary guys to hopefully make some points on different weeks so one of them can cover for a bad week/bye week of the top 2. Also banking on more RBBC in New Orleans, KC and Detroit. Houston's OL is top notch, and Foster has already had two hamstring tweaks this summer, so for $6 I figured I could double gamble with both his backups in lieu of picking one and choosing wrong. This did cause me to drop out D.Moore WR Oak who seemed another board favorite, but I figure this could give me some uniqueness. If Moore lives up to the hype, then I'll probably be in trouble. If Foster does go in and out of the lineup all year, then I feel I should get atleast a #2 RB points out of my Houston backup pair. Redman was just a lottery ticket. On a good team, which likes one RB running the rock, and has shown some pre-season talents... so for $2, sign me up. With the high costs for most of the RB's I built my team figuring a WR or TE will end up being my flex scorer.
Vincent Jackson $25
Mario Manningham $19
Davone Bess $13
Lee Evans $10
Braylon Edwards $9
Earl Bennett $8
Early Doucet $5
Harry Douglas $4
Antonio Brown $3
Michael Jenkins $2
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Had to get 8+ WRs. Too much fluctuation in scoring week to week to depend on less than that, especially once the bye weeks start hitting. Around the $8-$10 range, there were a bunch of choices. Had Lance Moore in there for a bit, but the groin troubles had me drop him. Too much risk going into the season hurting. Evan's ankle had me concerned too, but he is a perfect high score one week, low another type player, so I took the risk. Plax was in there for a bit, but figure the Jets would run more than pass and Plax already had a hurt ankle too in training camp. I didn't want to load up on guys already partially dinged. Next I had to get a couple solid guys and VJax was the cheapest I saw and I am drinking the koolaid on Manningham. Bess usually is a solid 5+ catch/week guy to fill in a 3rd WR spot. Edwards has skills and with Crabtree hurting, I figure he could grab a bunch of targets in SF. He is probably a high/low guy depending on the weeks, but that works for the contest. (so long as all your guys don't peg low all the same week!) Bennett seemed the only safe WR in Chicago, I'm hoping for a Flurrey type season in Martz offense, or atleast 3-4+ catches a game. Doucet and Douglas were both on good offenses and cheaper than the primary guys, so could score some weeks I figure and for the price seemed great value. Brown was one of the board favorites, picked him over D.Moore due to the better offense/team. Jenkins was a Minnesota WR gamble. Figure someone has to catch the ball there and he has the height to maybe be a redzone target for some weeks.
Jimmy Graham $15
Brandon Pettigrew $11
Aaron Hernandez $10
Lance Kendricks $6
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TE's can dominate scoring in this contest. 1.5/catch is huge. Having solid points each week from the TE is required to survive late in the contest. The top guys had some questions and were costly, so I figured I'd swing with 4 to help with byes and any injuries. Cook was in there a bit, but he really hasn't had a fully productive season yet and a new QB and HC and Tenn... too many risks. Graham/Hernandez/Kendricks were all
board favorites, so I figured they would be on a lot of teams. So if I grabbed them all I wouldn't lose ground on bunches of teams when they do go off on particular weeks. Since my flex is from here or WR's, if two go off I'm safe too since I'm not expecting my RB's to contribute in the flex in most weeks. Pettigrew seemed a good value to add in a 4th wheel to the board favorites and give me some uniqueness.
Neil Rackers $5
Jay Feely $2
Phil Dawson $2
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Went with one strong legged kicker on a decent/domed offense. Then filled in with cheap guys any PK can score some points in any given week.
Buffalo Bills $2
Denver Broncos $2
Jacksonville Jaguars $2
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I was trying to save some $ with my D and also figured almost everyone will have one or more of the $2 defenses. So if I picked all three $2 defenses I wouldn't fall behind anyone else who had a $2 defense which had a big week.
Matt Ryan $21
Colt McCoy $10
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$31 total for QBs. Didn't want to spend too much more since then I could have a choice of picking a top 3 cost QB. So if I was spending $40+, I might as well take one of the top guys. I like the offensive weapons in Atlanta this year and am hoping Matt Ryan takes his next step to stud QB land. McCoy seemed the board favorite at cost and upside, so figured he would work for my 2nd QB. Originally had Dalton in there, but 2nd year guy vs rookie and Palmer resurfacing the last week had me move to McCoy.
Felix Jones $23
Tim Hightower $14
Pierre Thomas $7
Thomas Jones $7
Jerome Harrison $5
Ben Tate $3
Derrick Ward $3
Isaac Redman $2
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RBs were aggressively priced this year. Tough to get two solid ones for less than $55+, which was hampering the ability to get to 30 players. So took the cheapest starters for my top 2 and then took 6 secondary guys to hopefully make some points on different weeks so one of them can cover for a bad week/bye week of the top 2. Also banking on more RBBC in New Orleans, KC and Detroit. Houston's OL is top notch, and Foster has already had two hamstring tweaks this summer, so for $6 I figured I could double gamble with both his backups in lieu of picking one and choosing wrong. This did cause me to drop out D.Moore WR Oak who seemed another board favorite, but I figure this could give me some uniqueness. If Moore lives up to the hype, then I'll probably be in trouble. If Foster does go in and out of the lineup all year, then I feel I should get atleast a #2 RB points out of my Houston backup pair. Redman was just a lottery ticket. On a good team, which likes one RB running the rock, and has shown some pre-season talents... so for $2, sign me up. With the high costs for most of the RB's I built my team figuring a WR or TE will end up being my flex scorer.
Vincent Jackson $25
Mario Manningham $19
Davone Bess $13
Lee Evans $10
Braylon Edwards $9
Earl Bennett $8
Early Doucet $5
Harry Douglas $4
Antonio Brown $3
Michael Jenkins $2
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Had to get 8+ WRs. Too much fluctuation in scoring week to week to depend on less than that, especially once the bye weeks start hitting. Around the $8-$10 range, there were a bunch of choices. Had Lance Moore in there for a bit, but the groin troubles had me drop him. Too much risk going into the season hurting. Evan's ankle had me concerned too, but he is a perfect high score one week, low another type player, so I took the risk. Plax was in there for a bit, but figure the Jets would run more than pass and Plax already had a hurt ankle too in training camp. I didn't want to load up on guys already partially dinged. Next I had to get a couple solid guys and VJax was the cheapest I saw and I am drinking the koolaid on Manningham. Bess usually is a solid 5+ catch/week guy to fill in a 3rd WR spot. Edwards has skills and with Crabtree hurting, I figure he could grab a bunch of targets in SF. He is probably a high/low guy depending on the weeks, but that works for the contest. (so long as all your guys don't peg low all the same week!) Bennett seemed the only safe WR in Chicago, I'm hoping for a Flurrey type season in Martz offense, or atleast 3-4+ catches a game. Doucet and Douglas were both on good offenses and cheaper than the primary guys, so could score some weeks I figure and for the price seemed great value. Brown was one of the board favorites, picked him over D.Moore due to the better offense/team. Jenkins was a Minnesota WR gamble. Figure someone has to catch the ball there and he has the height to maybe be a redzone target for some weeks.
Jimmy Graham $15
Brandon Pettigrew $11
Aaron Hernandez $10
Lance Kendricks $6
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TE's can dominate scoring in this contest. 1.5/catch is huge. Having solid points each week from the TE is required to survive late in the contest. The top guys had some questions and were costly, so I figured I'd swing with 4 to help with byes and any injuries. Cook was in there a bit, but he really hasn't had a fully productive season yet and a new QB and HC and Tenn... too many risks. Graham/Hernandez/Kendricks were all
board favorites, so I figured they would be on a lot of teams. So if I grabbed them all I wouldn't lose ground on bunches of teams when they do go off on particular weeks. Since my flex is from here or WR's, if two go off I'm safe too since I'm not expecting my RB's to contribute in the flex in most weeks. Pettigrew seemed a good value to add in a 4th wheel to the board favorites and give me some uniqueness.
Neil Rackers $5
Jay Feely $2
Phil Dawson $2
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Went with one strong legged kicker on a decent/domed offense. Then filled in with cheap guys any PK can score some points in any given week.
Buffalo Bills $2
Denver Broncos $2
Jacksonville Jaguars $2
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I was trying to save some $ with my D and also figured almost everyone will have one or more of the $2 defenses. So if I picked all three $2 defenses I wouldn't fall behind anyone else who had a $2 defense which had a big week.
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Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
DB contsrutcion underway. 
As I mentioned earlier, I guessed my entry was likely to be one of the least unique. I haven't had a chance to look at any of the ownership stats yet but just from skimming the last page or two of this thread, I'm pretty sure my hunch was correct. I relied heavily on FBG projections and Shark Pool opinions this year, so I knew I'd have all the same players as everyone else. We'll see whether or not that's a bad thing.
QB: I believe strongly in having one stud QB and one capable backup. The studs at this position are worth the money, they consistently put up big point totals and have high floors. You need a backup for the bye week (obviously) and also hopefully to mitigate the risk of a down week for your stud. In the 2 vs. 3 QB debate, I fall squarely on the 2 side. I chose Philip Rivers because (1) I think he has the potential to be an every week stud, (2) he was the least expensive of the top tier of QBs imo, and (3) he has a relatively early bye week (I believe in getting key bye weeks out of the way as early as possible, of course without leaving yourself too shorthanded at any point).
RB: I couldn't justify spending big bucks on a "stud" here. It just felt too restrictive, and you really need them to perform every week if you invest that money, something no RB is guaranteed to do. For a long time I had Cedric Benson, thinking he was a lock for tons of carries, but at the last minute decided his upside was limitied and perhaps I was underestimating his downside, so I took that $17 and spent it elsewhere. I'm counting on some of the "value" mid tier guys like Beanie Wells, Reggie Bush, and Tim Hightower to produce, and hoping for the occasional big week (or maybe late-season emergence) of one or more cheap guys.
WR: Again, I couldn't justify spending money on the elite studs here, but since you start 3-4 of these every week, I didn't feel comfortable rolling with just a bunch of cheaper "upside" type guys. So I think I've got a solid 1-2-3 core with Dez, Tampa Mike, and Manningham, and backed them up with a nice complement of Lance Moore, Burleson, Amendola, and Floyd, all of whom I expect to make it into my starting lineup several times throughout the season. For $6 I couldn't pass up the big-play potential of Brown and D. Moore.
TE: I think it's important to get good production out of this position, but I didn't want to pin my hopes on one big-money guy. For a total of $29 I got Daniels, Pettigrew, and Kendricks, and between the three of them I'm hoping they can replicate stud TE production at this position, and occasionally fill the flex spot as well with their 1.5 PPR.
K: Whatever.
D: See kicker.
Bye week analysis: I have 8 players off week 5. That's my worst week by far but I'm hoping it's early enough that I'll still make the cut. Then it's 5 players off in week 6, 3 players off in week 7, 4 players off in week 8, 3 players off in week 9, and 5 players off in week 11. The week 8, 9 and 11 byes are almost all "backup" players so if I make it past week 7 I'll be at almost full strength with my starters the rest of the way.
My rooster:
As I mentioned earlier, I guessed my entry was likely to be one of the least unique. I haven't had a chance to look at any of the ownership stats yet but just from skimming the last page or two of this thread, I'm pretty sure my hunch was correct. I relied heavily on FBG projections and Shark Pool opinions this year, so I knew I'd have all the same players as everyone else. We'll see whether or not that's a bad thing.
QB: I believe strongly in having one stud QB and one capable backup. The studs at this position are worth the money, they consistently put up big point totals and have high floors. You need a backup for the bye week (obviously) and also hopefully to mitigate the risk of a down week for your stud. In the 2 vs. 3 QB debate, I fall squarely on the 2 side. I chose Philip Rivers because (1) I think he has the potential to be an every week stud, (2) he was the least expensive of the top tier of QBs imo, and (3) he has a relatively early bye week (I believe in getting key bye weeks out of the way as early as possible, of course without leaving yourself too shorthanded at any point).
RB: I couldn't justify spending big bucks on a "stud" here. It just felt too restrictive, and you really need them to perform every week if you invest that money, something no RB is guaranteed to do. For a long time I had Cedric Benson, thinking he was a lock for tons of carries, but at the last minute decided his upside was limitied and perhaps I was underestimating his downside, so I took that $17 and spent it elsewhere. I'm counting on some of the "value" mid tier guys like Beanie Wells, Reggie Bush, and Tim Hightower to produce, and hoping for the occasional big week (or maybe late-season emergence) of one or more cheap guys.
WR: Again, I couldn't justify spending money on the elite studs here, but since you start 3-4 of these every week, I didn't feel comfortable rolling with just a bunch of cheaper "upside" type guys. So I think I've got a solid 1-2-3 core with Dez, Tampa Mike, and Manningham, and backed them up with a nice complement of Lance Moore, Burleson, Amendola, and Floyd, all of whom I expect to make it into my starting lineup several times throughout the season. For $6 I couldn't pass up the big-play potential of Brown and D. Moore.
TE: I think it's important to get good production out of this position, but I didn't want to pin my hopes on one big-money guy. For a total of $29 I got Daniels, Pettigrew, and Kendricks, and between the three of them I'm hoping they can replicate stud TE production at this position, and occasionally fill the flex spot as well with their 1.5 PPR.
K: Whatever.
D: See kicker.
Bye week analysis: I have 8 players off week 5. That's my worst week by far but I'm hoping it's early enough that I'll still make the cut. Then it's 5 players off in week 6, 3 players off in week 7, 4 players off in week 8, 3 players off in week 9, and 5 players off in week 11. The week 8, 9 and 11 byes are almost all "backup" players so if I make it past week 7 I'll be at almost full strength with my starters the rest of the way.
My rooster:
Code:
Count Pos Player Team Bye Price1 QB P Rivers SD 6 $242 QB C McCoy CLE 5 $103 RB C Wells ARI 6 $164 RB R Bush MIA 5 $155 RB T Hightower WAS 5 $146 RB B Scott CIN 7 $97 RB P Thomas NO 11 $78 RB D Karim JAX 9 $39 RB B Powell NYJ 8 $310 RB B Tate HOU 11 $311 RB M Barber CHI 8 $312 WR D Bryant DAL 5 $2113 WR M Williams TB 8 $2114 WR M Manningham NYG 7 $1915 WR L Moore NO 11 $1016 WR N Burleson DET 9 $817 WR D Amendola STL 5 $818 WR M Floyd SD 6 $819 WR A Brown PIT 11 $320 WR D Moore OAK 8 $321 TE O Daniels HOU 11 $1222 TE B Pettigrew DET 9 $1123 TE L Kendricks STL 5 $624 PK J Brown STL 5 $325 PK M Nugent CIN 7 $226 PK J Feely ARI 6 $227 TD Rams STL 5 $328 TD Cardinals ARI 6 $3
DAMAC3
Footballguy
Team DAMAC3
This is my first year playing this type of format. Keeping moderate expectations. Thinking I should've only kept 2 defenses and cut my WR depth to use the extra money for stronger top players. Interested in getting some opinions.
Ben Roethlisberger $23
Matthew Stafford $18
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Rashard Mendenhall $31
Joseph Addai $20
James Starks $16
Isaac Redman $2
Taiwan Jones $2
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Brandon Lloyd $22
Dez Bryant $21
Jacoby Ford $14
Mike Sims-Walker $11
Emmanuel Sanders $8
Eric Decker $6
Harry Douglas $4
Dexter McCluster $2
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Jimmy Graham $15
Aaron Hernandez $10
Evan Moore $2
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Jason Hanson $4
Josh Brown $3
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New York Giants $6
New Orleans Saints $5
San Diego Chargers $5
This is my first year playing this type of format. Keeping moderate expectations. Thinking I should've only kept 2 defenses and cut my WR depth to use the extra money for stronger top players. Interested in getting some opinions.
Ben Roethlisberger $23
Matthew Stafford $18
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Rashard Mendenhall $31
Joseph Addai $20
James Starks $16
Isaac Redman $2
Taiwan Jones $2
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Brandon Lloyd $22
Dez Bryant $21
Jacoby Ford $14
Mike Sims-Walker $11
Emmanuel Sanders $8
Eric Decker $6
Harry Douglas $4
Dexter McCluster $2
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Jimmy Graham $15
Aaron Hernandez $10
Evan Moore $2
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Jason Hanson $4
Josh Brown $3
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New York Giants $6
New Orleans Saints $5
San Diego Chargers $5
Marauder
Footballguy
QB - Philip Rivers - SD/6 - $24
QB - Matt Schaub - HOU/11 - $20
I wanted two good, consistent QB's. think it's a big mistake to go cheap with your #2 if you go with only 2 QB's. I had Stafford as my #2 for a long time but switched to Schaub yesterday, partly for a little more uniqueness and also because I think he is a little safer.
RB - Felix Jones - DAL/5 - $23
RB - Chris Wells - ARI/6 - $16
RB - Brandon Jacobs - NYG/7 - $16
RB - Mike Tolbert - SD/6 - $15
RB - Tim Hightower - WAS/5 - $14
RB - Jerome Harrison - DET/9 - $5
Most of my RB's are commonly owned as expected. Happy to see Jacobs is not very commonly owned. This could give me a slight edge if he performs as I expect.
WR - Mario Manningham - NYG/7 - $19
WR - Plaxico Burress - NYJ/8 - $10
WR - Lee Evans - BAL/5 - $10
WR - Nate Burleson - DET/9 - $8
WR - Danny Amendola - STL/5 - $8
WR - Malcom Floyd - SD/6 - $8
WR - Bernard Berrian - MIN/9 - $5
WR - Steve Smith - PHI/7 - $5
WR - Denarius Moore - OAK/8 - $3
Also a lot of commonly owned WR's as I expected. Not much to say here.
TE - Kellen Winslow - TB/8 - $13
TE - Owen Daniels - HOU/11 - $12
TE - Tony Scheffler - DET/9 - $3
TE is where I hope to get some differentiation. At 1.5ppr you want guys who catch a lot of passes and Winslow and Daniels fit that bill. I wanted Hernandez for his upside but just couldn't make it work. I went with Sheffler instead of Moore as my cheap flyer. I had both of them on my team for a long time but had to use that $2 somewhere else and I think Sheffler has more upside than Moore (I know I'm in the minority on that).
PK - Josh Brown - STL/5 - $3
PK - Olindo Mare - CAR/9 - $2
PK - Jay Feely - ARI/6 - $2
TD - Houston Texans - HOU/11 - $3
TD - Arizona Cardinals - ARI/6 - $3
Overall I think my team is fairly common with just enough uniqueness to give me a chance to win. I went with the strategy of spreading out my bye weeks rather than bunching them in the early weeks. We'll see how that works out.
QB - Matt Schaub - HOU/11 - $20
I wanted two good, consistent QB's. think it's a big mistake to go cheap with your #2 if you go with only 2 QB's. I had Stafford as my #2 for a long time but switched to Schaub yesterday, partly for a little more uniqueness and also because I think he is a little safer.
RB - Felix Jones - DAL/5 - $23
RB - Chris Wells - ARI/6 - $16
RB - Brandon Jacobs - NYG/7 - $16
RB - Mike Tolbert - SD/6 - $15
RB - Tim Hightower - WAS/5 - $14
RB - Jerome Harrison - DET/9 - $5
Most of my RB's are commonly owned as expected. Happy to see Jacobs is not very commonly owned. This could give me a slight edge if he performs as I expect.
WR - Mario Manningham - NYG/7 - $19
WR - Plaxico Burress - NYJ/8 - $10
WR - Lee Evans - BAL/5 - $10
WR - Nate Burleson - DET/9 - $8
WR - Danny Amendola - STL/5 - $8
WR - Malcom Floyd - SD/6 - $8
WR - Bernard Berrian - MIN/9 - $5
WR - Steve Smith - PHI/7 - $5
WR - Denarius Moore - OAK/8 - $3
Also a lot of commonly owned WR's as I expected. Not much to say here.
TE - Kellen Winslow - TB/8 - $13
TE - Owen Daniels - HOU/11 - $12
TE - Tony Scheffler - DET/9 - $3
TE is where I hope to get some differentiation. At 1.5ppr you want guys who catch a lot of passes and Winslow and Daniels fit that bill. I wanted Hernandez for his upside but just couldn't make it work. I went with Sheffler instead of Moore as my cheap flyer. I had both of them on my team for a long time but had to use that $2 somewhere else and I think Sheffler has more upside than Moore (I know I'm in the minority on that).
PK - Josh Brown - STL/5 - $3
PK - Olindo Mare - CAR/9 - $2
PK - Jay Feely - ARI/6 - $2
TD - Houston Texans - HOU/11 - $3
TD - Arizona Cardinals - ARI/6 - $3
Overall I think my team is fairly common with just enough uniqueness to give me a chance to win. I went with the strategy of spreading out my bye weeks rather than bunching them in the early weeks. We'll see how that works out.
Robbie Cooper
Footballguy
Has the FBG Subscriber Contest Querier app been updated yet to link to the new database of teams?
Jayrod
Footballguy
I think the spike at 26 is odd....which happens to be my roster size.
apalmer
Footballguy
My biggest concern would be that your #1 QB, RB & TE, as well as another RB & WR ($79 of you cap) have Week 11 byes. The cuts get pretty deep that late in the contest and you'll be severely crippled at just the wrong tme.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
I'm surprised he isn't owned more. Every year there are a lot of entries that are put in once and never adjusted, so I figured a lot would have been entered before his injury story fully developed.I'm also surprised that Stafford is the most-owned QB at 37%. I thought injury histroy would scare people away.Peyton Manning $26 0.2%
WisWolvrns
Footballguy
Only 10,776 total too... lower than last year by almost 3,000?
Guess congrats to almost everyone making it to week 3 already! (except for 776 probably garbage entries)
Guess congrats to almost everyone making it to week 3 already! (except for 776 probably garbage entries)
Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
Ben Roethlisberger $23
Mark Sanchez $14
Had Rivers here for a long time but changed to Ben due to bye weeks at other positions. Figured late bye might scare people off. Sanchez has decent matchup on Ben's bye (@DEN) and his late schedule isn't bad. Also considered McNabb, Campbell, and McCoy.
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LeSean McCoy $34
Steven Jackson $25
Mike Tolbert $15
Ronnie Brown $8
Isaac Redman $2
LaRod Stephens-Howling $2
Locked in on McCoy after watching him catch about 10 dumpoffs vs Cleveland due to pressure on Vick. Like Brown not only as insurance but I believe he will get a fair amount of action even with a healthy McCoy. Got scared off Felix due to OL issues and changed to SJax. Considered Beanie, Bush, and Hightower but like Tolbert's steadiness and bye week.
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Larry Fitzgerald $28
Mario Manningham $19
Jacoby Ford $14
Lee Evans $10
Nate Burleson $8
Mohamed Massaquoi $4
Antonio Brown $3
Dexter McCluster $2
Wanted 1 uber stud and decided on Fitz or Roddy. Went back and forth between Manningham and Harvin but decided they were close and I would save the $. Really like Ford and Evans big play ability in this format and I am high on Burleson. Had Lance Moore but injury scared me off. I expect MoMass to have a solid season.
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Owen Daniels $12
Lance Kendricks $6
Evan Moore $2
Same thoughts as pretty much everyone else here. Would have liked Olsen over Moore but couldn't find the $$.
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Josh Brown $3
Nick Folk $3
Shaun Suisham $3
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Minnesota Vikings $4
Miami Dolphins $4
Denver Broncos $2
3 and 3.
I prediect a 457th place finish. GL to all.
Mark Sanchez $14
Had Rivers here for a long time but changed to Ben due to bye weeks at other positions. Figured late bye might scare people off. Sanchez has decent matchup on Ben's bye (@DEN) and his late schedule isn't bad. Also considered McNabb, Campbell, and McCoy.
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LeSean McCoy $34
Steven Jackson $25
Mike Tolbert $15
Ronnie Brown $8
Isaac Redman $2
LaRod Stephens-Howling $2
Locked in on McCoy after watching him catch about 10 dumpoffs vs Cleveland due to pressure on Vick. Like Brown not only as insurance but I believe he will get a fair amount of action even with a healthy McCoy. Got scared off Felix due to OL issues and changed to SJax. Considered Beanie, Bush, and Hightower but like Tolbert's steadiness and bye week.
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Larry Fitzgerald $28
Mario Manningham $19
Jacoby Ford $14
Lee Evans $10
Nate Burleson $8
Mohamed Massaquoi $4
Antonio Brown $3
Dexter McCluster $2
Wanted 1 uber stud and decided on Fitz or Roddy. Went back and forth between Manningham and Harvin but decided they were close and I would save the $. Really like Ford and Evans big play ability in this format and I am high on Burleson. Had Lance Moore but injury scared me off. I expect MoMass to have a solid season.
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Owen Daniels $12
Lance Kendricks $6
Evan Moore $2
Same thoughts as pretty much everyone else here. Would have liked Olsen over Moore but couldn't find the $$.
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Josh Brown $3
Nick Folk $3
Shaun Suisham $3
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Minnesota Vikings $4
Miami Dolphins $4
Denver Broncos $2
3 and 3.
I prediect a 457th place finish. GL to all.
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