timdraft #4: Movie Category Draft (3 Viewers)

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

It's hard to get too serious here. I put a lot of time and effort into the England category and since then it has been very slow progress overall, so I've taken it slow with the Sex/Adultery category. If other judges had posted their scores quicker I would definitely have got off my backside and watched the remaining movies as a matter of priority.

As it is I'm watching when I can and I'm 80% through. If people didn't pick 3 hour snore fests like Dr Zhivago, then my task would have been easier.

For fight category, I'll turn that one over much quicker, but before I put in the effort I'd like a few more categories judged.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

We're watching the historical people movies as fast as we can. Some are great, and some are not so hot. Since we came late to this game, it takes time.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

I'm down to just sunshine in multiples. Anyone seen it?

 

[Time Kibitzer]

I'm down to just sunshine in multiples. Anyone seen it?

Not one starring Ralph Fiennes.

 

[Aerial Assault]

It's hard to get too serious here. I put a lot of time and effort into the England category and since then it has been very slow progress overall, so I've taken it slow with the Sex/Adultery category. If other judges had posted their scores quicker I would definitely have got off my backside and watched the remaining movies as a matter of priority.

As it is I'm watching when I can and I'm 80% through. If people didn't pick 3 hour snore fests like Dr Zhivago, then my task would have been easier.

For fight category, I'll turn that one over much quicker, but before I put in the effort I'd like a few more categories judged.

Um, the draft is going to finish even if I have to judge all remaining cats. I'm just that way. The Rannouses are pitching in. So let's not worry about the other categories being judged. You've had over three months.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

It's hard to get too serious here. I put a lot of time and effort into the England category and since then it has been very slow progress overall, so I've taken it slow with the Sex/Adultery category. If other judges had posted their scores quicker I would definitely have got off my backside and watched the remaining movies as a matter of priority.

As it is I'm watching when I can and I'm 80% through. If people didn't pick 3 hour snore fests like Dr Zhivago, then my task would have been easier.

For fight category, I'll turn that one over much quicker, but before I put in the effort I'd like a few more categories judged.

Um, the draft is going to finish even if I have to judge all remaining cats. I'm just that way. The Rannouses are pitching in. So let's not worry about the other categories being judged. You've had over three months.

I'm doing my 2 and given the pace of the other judging I'm not going to bust a gut devoting every spare moment to doing so.

I'll get er done soon enough

 

[ScottNorwood]

Everyone just relax

 

[BobbyLayne]

Everyone just relax

OK,that's probably a little too relaxed.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I'm down to just sunshine in multiples. Anyone seen it?

Not one starring Ralph Fiennes.

Yeah, I've only seen the one that some consider to be amongst the worst outerspace movies of all time.

It was so bad - it actually lost 50% of its points a few days after the judging was completed.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

timdraft #5: Coming to You in 2016 2018...

fixed

 

[joffer]

Everyone just relax

OK,that's probably a little too relaxed.

lol

 

[Aerial Assault]

timdraft #5: Coming to You in 2016 2018...

fixed

Not sure the judging will be completed by then given the judging zugzwang we've got going.

 

[timschochet]

OK, I've had enough of this ####.

You remaining judges have until Friday to post the exact date your results will be posted, and it needs to be within 2 weeks from now. Starting this weekend I'm going to start judging whatever's left over. I'll just start at the top of the list and work my way down. If either I don't get a post from you OR you fail to keep your promise within the two week period, your category is on the list.

My rankings may be crappy but they're better than no rankings. I intend to finish this draft and move on to the next one. No matter what, this draft WILL be done by mid August.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

OK, I've had enough of this ####.

You remaining judges have until Friday to post the exact date your results will be posted, and it needs to be within 2 weeks from now. Starting this weekend I'm going to start judging whatever's left over. I'll just start at the top of the list and work my way down. If either I don't get a post from you OR you fail to keep your promise within the two week period, your category is on the list.

My rankings may be crappy but they're better than no rankings. I intend to finish this draft and move on to the next one. No matter what, this draft WILL be done by mid August.

Multiples will be up within 2 weeks from now, sooner if anyone has seen Sunshine and can help me out.

 

[charvik]

Some, but not all, judges have spoken for their categories in the last two weeks:

- JML for Adultery/Sex Movies (60% done on Friday 6/21) and for Fight Scenes

- Aerial Assault for Dream Sequences (finished) and Courtroom Scenes

- Nick Vermeil for Multiple Performances (looking for help judging an unseen film)

- Tremendous Upside for Spies (90% finished on Saturday 6/29)

- Tiananmen Tank for Monologues (only write-ups pending as of Monday 6/24)

- Kumerica for Dramatic Actors in Comedic Roles (write-ups 60% done on Friday 6/21)

- Bobby Layne dropped Portrayal of a Real/Historical Person this past Monday. Val & Mrs. Rannous considering taking it on..

- Val Rannous picked up Gambling Scene from Scott Norwood

...

Finally, Tim declared the following categories still up for grabs:

- Rock and Roll Movie

- No Idea What This Movie is About

- "Shooting a Movie" Scene

- Portrayal of a Real/Historical Person (if the Rannouses aren't taking it)

I'm guessing this is the latest update?

I can take gambling scene (if Val doesn't have time), spies (if TUp can send me the 90% done, or from scratch if he's MIA), and portrayal of a real/historical character.

I won't promise lengthy writeups, but I have seen all the movies, and can whip together rankings semi-quickly.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Some, but not all, judges have spoken for their categories in the last two weeks:

- JML for Adultery/Sex Movies (60% done on Friday 6/21) and for Fight Scenes

- Aerial Assault for Dream Sequences (finished) and Courtroom Scenes

- Nick Vermeil for Multiple Performances (looking for help judging an unseen film)

- Tremendous Upside for Spies (90% finished on Saturday 6/29)

- Tiananmen Tank for Monologues (only write-ups pending as of Monday 6/24)

- Kumerica for Dramatic Actors in Comedic Roles (write-ups 60% done on Friday 6/21)

- Bobby Layne dropped Portrayal of a Real/Historical Person this past Monday. Val & Mrs. Rannous considering taking it on..

- Val Rannous picked up Gambling Scene from Scott Norwood

...

Finally, Tim declared the following categories still up for grabs:

- Rock and Roll Movie

- No Idea What This Movie is About

- "Shooting a Movie" Scene

- Portrayal of a Real/Historical Person (if the Rannouses aren't taking it)

I'm guessing this is the latest update?

I can take gambling scene (if Val doesn't have time), spies (if TUp can send me the 90% done, or from scratch if he's MIA), and portrayal of a real/historical character.

I won't promise lengthy writeups, but I have seen all the movies, and can whip together rankings semi-quickly.

I'm going to take Rock N' Roll Movies. I've seen about 80% of them and will watch the rest. I'll try and finish in the two week time frame.



Jzilla showed back up after a lengthy absence and said he could do his two cats but it may take some time. Not sure that he's been back since. I'll start putting something together, at the risk that he may show back up and still want the category. If he does I'll gladly step aside and let him have it.



I can’t promise lengthy write ups or anything fancy but will try and give my reasons and offer some semblance of objectivity.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Just a note. If this draft had been done after it released, I would have taken Man of Steel for superhero movie.

Damn I loved that show.

 

[timschochet]

OK, I've had enough of this ####.

You remaining judges have until Friday to post the exact date your results will be posted, and it needs to be within 2 weeks from now. Starting this weekend I'm going to start judging whatever's left over. I'll just start at the top of the list and work my way down. If either I don't get a post from you OR you fail to keep your promise within the two week period, your category is on the list.

My rankings may be crappy but they're better than no rankings. I intend to finish this draft and move on to the next one. No matter what, this draft WILL be done by mid August.

Multiples will be up within 2 weeks from now, sooner if anyone has seen Sunshine and can help me out.

I have. It's an OK movie. Follows a Jewish family in Budapest from about 1890-1960s. There was always some secret treasure involved, if I recall correctly. Fiennes plays the male from each of 3 generations- I know he is a champion fencer at one point, subjected to anti-Semitism. (The scenes right before World War II in which the family, knowing they are doomed but still dressed to the nines for dinner, are especially powerful.) Later he plays a Communist working for the Russians. He's always great, but the movie, while having an epic feel, lacks empathy.

Don't know it that helps...

 

[timschochet]

Some, but not all, judges have spoken for their categories in the last two weeks:

- JML for Adultery/Sex Movies (60% done on Friday 6/21) and for Fight Scenes

- Aerial Assault for Dream Sequences (finished) and Courtroom Scenes

- Nick Vermeil for Multiple Performances (looking for help judging an unseen film)

- Tremendous Upside for Spies (90% finished on Saturday 6/29)

- Tiananmen Tank for Monologues (only write-ups pending as of Monday 6/24)

- Kumerica for Dramatic Actors in Comedic Roles (write-ups 60% done on Friday 6/21)

- Bobby Layne dropped Portrayal of a Real/Historical Person this past Monday. Val & Mrs. Rannous considering taking it on..

- Val Rannous picked up Gambling Scene from Scott Norwood

...

Finally, Tim declared the following categories still up for grabs:

- Rock and Roll Movie

- No Idea What This Movie is About

- "Shooting a Movie" Scene

- Portrayal of a Real/Historical Person (if the Rannouses aren't taking it)

I'm guessing this is the latest update?

I can take gambling scene (if Val doesn't have time), spies (if TUp can send me the 90% done, or from scratch if he's MIA), and portrayal of a real/historical character.

I won't promise lengthy writeups, but I have seen all the movies, and can whip together rankings semi-quickly.

I'm going to take Rock N' Roll Movies. I've seen about 80% of them and will watch the rest. I'll try and finish in the two week time frame.



Jzilla showed back up after a lengthy absence and said he could do his two cats but it may take some time. Not sure that he's been back since. I'll start putting something together, at the risk that he may show back up and still want the category. If he does I'll gladly step aside and let him have it.



I can’t promise lengthy write ups or anything fancy but will try and give my reasons and offer some semblance of objectivity.

Thanks, guys. So long as it's posted within the next two weeks, that would be great.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

OK, I've had enough of this ####.

You remaining judges have until Friday to post the exact date your results will be posted, and it needs to be within 2 weeks from now. Starting this weekend I'm going to start judging whatever's left over. I'll just start at the top of the list and work my way down. If either I don't get a post from you OR you fail to keep your promise within the two week period, your category is on the list.

My rankings may be crappy but they're better than no rankings. I intend to finish this draft and move on to the next one. No matter what, this draft WILL be done by mid August.

Multiples will be up within 2 weeks from now, sooner if anyone has seen Sunshine and can help me out.

I have. It's an OK movie. Follows a Jewish family in Budapest from about 1890-1960s. There was always some secret treasure involved, if I recall correctly. Fiennes plays the male from each of 3 generations- I know he is a champion fencer at one point, subjected to anti-Semitism. (The scenes right before World War II in which the family, knowing they are doomed but still dressed to the nines for dinner, are especially powerful.) Later he plays a Communist working for the Russians. He's always great, but the movie, while having an epic feel, lacks empathy.

Don't know it that helps...

Tried to send PM. Your box is full.

 

[Aerial Assault]

Courtroom scenes will be done within two weeks from today.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

OK, I've had enough of this ####.

You remaining judges have until Friday to post the exact date your results will be posted, and it needs to be within 2 weeks from now. Starting this weekend I'm going to start judging whatever's left over. I'll just start at the top of the list and work my way down. If either I don't get a post from you OR you fail to keep your promise within the two week period, your category is on the list.

My rankings may be crappy but they're better than no rankings. I intend to finish this draft and move on to the next one. No matter what, this draft WILL be done by mid August.

Dear Mr Bossy Boots,

I intend to have started posting my rankings by just before the 2 weeks from the date of your post for both Fight Scene and Sex/Adultery.

I will alternate the topics ie 1 point for Fight, then 1 point for Sex/Adultery, then 2 points for Fight Scene, then 2 points for Sex/Adultery

I will then strangle a chicken.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

OK, I've had enough of this ####.

You remaining judges have until Friday to post the exact date your results will be posted, and it needs to be within 2 weeks from now. Starting this weekend I'm going to start judging whatever's left over. I'll just start at the top of the list and work my way down. If either I don't get a post from you OR you fail to keep your promise within the two week period, your category is on the list.

My rankings may be crappy but they're better than no rankings. I intend to finish this draft and move on to the next one. No matter what, this draft WILL be done by mid August.

Multiples will be up within 2 weeks from now, sooner if anyone has seen Sunshine and can help me out.

I have. It's an OK movie. Follows a Jewish family in Budapest from about 1890-1960s. There was always some secret treasure involved, if I recall correctly. Fiennes plays the male from each of 3 generations- I know he is a champion fencer at one point, subjected to anti-Semitism. (The scenes right before World War II in which the family, knowing they are doomed but still dressed to the nines for dinner, are especially powerful.) Later he plays a Communist working for the Russians. He's always great, but the movie, while having an epic feel, lacks empathy.

Don't know it that helps...

Tried to send PM. Your box is full.

Ooooeeerrr

(I've been watching too many sex films)

 

[Nick Vermeil]

OK, I've had enough of this ####.

You remaining judges have until Friday to post the exact date your results will be posted, and it needs to be within 2 weeks from now. Starting this weekend I'm going to start judging whatever's left over. I'll just start at the top of the list and work my way down. If either I don't get a post from you OR you fail to keep your promise within the two week period, your category is on the list.

My rankings may be crappy but they're better than no rankings. I intend to finish this draft and move on to the next one. No matter what, this draft WILL be done by mid August.

Multiples will be up within 2 weeks from now, sooner if anyone has seen Sunshine and can help me out.

I have. It's an OK movie. Follows a Jewish family in Budapest from about 1890-1960s. There was always some secret treasure involved, if I recall correctly. Fiennes plays the male from each of 3 generations- I know he is a champion fencer at one point, subjected to anti-Semitism. (The scenes right before World War II in which the family, knowing they are doomed but still dressed to the nines for dinner, are especially powerful.) Later he plays a Communist working for the Russians. He's always great, but the movie, while having an epic feel, lacks empathy.Don't know it that helps...

Tried to send PM. Your box is full.

Ooooeeerrr(I've been watching too many sex films)

It's cool. Tim emptied his box for me. If you know what I'm saying.

Multiples will post Friday.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

OK, I've had enough of this ####.

You remaining judges have until Friday to post the exact date your results will be posted, and it needs to be within 2 weeks from now. Starting this weekend I'm going to start judging whatever's left over. I'll just start at the top of the list and work my way down. If either I don't get a post from you OR you fail to keep your promise within the two week period, your category is on the list.

My rankings may be crappy but they're better than no rankings. I intend to finish this draft and move on to the next one. No matter what, this draft WILL be done by mid August.

Multiples will be up within 2 weeks from now, sooner if anyone has seen Sunshine and can help me out.

I have. It's an OK movie. Follows a Jewish family in Budapest from about 1890-1960s. There was always some secret treasure involved, if I recall correctly. Fiennes plays the male from each of 3 generations- I know he is a champion fencer at one point, subjected to anti-Semitism. (The scenes right before World War II in which the family, knowing they are doomed but still dressed to the nines for dinner, are especially powerful.) Later he plays a Communist working for the Russians. He's always great, but the movie, while having an epic feel, lacks empathy.Don't know it that helps...

Tried to send PM. Your box is full.

Ooooeeerrr(I've been watching too many sex films)

It's cool. Tim emptied his box for me. If you know what I'm saying.

...Must...resist....temptation...

 

[charvik]

Some, but not all, judges have spoken for their categories in the last two weeks:

- JML for Adultery/Sex Movies (60% done on Friday 6/21) and for Fight Scenes

- Aerial Assault for Dream Sequences (finished) and Courtroom Scenes

- Nick Vermeil for Multiple Performances (looking for help judging an unseen film)

- Tremendous Upside for Spies (90% finished on Saturday 6/29)

- Tiananmen Tank for Monologues (only write-ups pending as of Monday 6/24)

- Kumerica for Dramatic Actors in Comedic Roles (write-ups 60% done on Friday 6/21)

- Bobby Layne dropped Portrayal of a Real/Historical Person this past Monday. Val & Mrs. Rannous considering taking it on..

- Val Rannous picked up Gambling Scene from Scott Norwood

...

Finally, Tim declared the following categories still up for grabs:

- Rock and Roll Movie

- No Idea What This Movie is About

- "Shooting a Movie" Scene

- Portrayal of a Real/Historical Person (if the Rannouses aren't taking it)

I'm guessing this is the latest update?

I can take gambling scene (if Val doesn't have time), spies (if TUp can send me the 90% done, or from scratch if he's MIA), and portrayal of a real/historical character.

I won't promise lengthy writeups, but I have seen all the movies, and can whip together rankings semi-quickly.

Val?

 

[charvik]

For the 3 categories I took on, these are the selections on the first page of the thread (the messed up posts):

AcerFC
Spies - North by Northwest
gambling scene - Deer Hunter Russian Roulette Scene
best portrayal of a real/historical person - Denzel Washington as Malcolm X

Aerial Assault
Spies - La Femme Nikita
gambling scene - Run Lola Run
best portrayal of a real/historical person - Val Kilmer as Doc Holiday

Andy Dufresne
Spies - Where Eagles Dare
gambling scene - Croupier
best portrayal of a real/historical person - Reese Witherspoon as June Carter Cash

BobbyLayne
Spies - Confessions of a Dangerous Mind
gambling scene - Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
best portrayal of a real/historical person - Hillary Swank as Brandon Teena

Doug B
Spies - The Manchurian Candidate
gambling scene - final scene from The Cincinnati Kid
best portrayal of a real/historical person - Ben Kingsley as Gandhi

Dr. Octopus
Spies - Munich
gambling scene - Casino
best portrayal of a real/historical person - Will Smith as Muhammad Ali

higgins
Spies - The Fourth Protocol
gambling scene - Let It Ride
best portrayal of a real/historical person - Daniel Day Lewis as Lincoln

hooter311
Spies - 39 Steps
gambling scene - The Gambler
best portrayal of a real/historical person - Philip Seymour Hoffman as Capote

Joffer
Spies - 3 Days of the Condor
gambling scene - Rounders
best portrayal of a real/historical person - David Straithairn as Edward R. Murrow

John Madden's Lunchbox
Spies - Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
gambling scene - A Day at the Races
best portrayal of a real/historical person - Eric Bana as Mark "Chopper"

jwb
Spies - XXX
gambling scene - Owning Mahowny
best portrayal of a real/historical person - Val Kilmer as Jim Morrison

Karma Police
Spies - True Lies
gambling scene - Swingers
best portrayal of a real/historical person - Daniel Day Lewis as Christy Brown

krista4
Spies - Charade
gambling scene - The Hustler
best portrayal of a real/historical person - Robert DeNiro as Jake LaMotta

Kumerica
Spies - Spy Game
gambling scene - Casino Royale
best portrayal of a real/historical person - Helen Mirren as The Queen

Mister CIA
Spies - The Day of the Jackal
gambling scene - House of Games
best portrayal of a real/historical person - Paul Giamatti as Harvey Pekar

Mrs. Rannous
Spies - 5 Fingers
gambling scene - Rain Man
best portrayal of a real/historical person - Leonardo DiCaprio as Howard Hughes

Nick Vermeil
Spies - The Conversation
gambling scene - Cool Hand Luke
best portrayal of a real/historical person - Julia Roberts as Erin Brockovich

rikishiboy
Spies - The Spy Who Came In From the Cold
gambling scene - Flash Gordon
best portrayal of a real/historical person - Jamie Foxx as Ray Charles

Tiannamen Tank
Spies - Flame & Citron
gambling scene - The Cooler
best portrayal of a real/historical person - Forest Whitaker as Idi Amin

Time Kibitzer
Spies - The Lives of Others
gambling scene - Craps scene in Hard Eight
best portrayal of a real/historical person - John Hurt as Joseph Merrick

timschochet
Spies - Eye of the Needle
gambling scene - Poker scene from The Sting
best portrayal of a real/historical person - Paul Scofield in A Man For All Seasons

Tish155
Spies - Cloak and Dagger
gambling scene - White Men Can't Jump
best portrayal of a real/historical person - Madonna as Eva Peron

Tremendous Upside
Spies - The Ipcress File
gambling scene - California Split
best portrayal of a real/historical person - Peter O' Toole as Lawrence of Arabia

Usual21
Spies - Spies Like Us
gambling scene - Indecent Proposal
best portrayal of a real/historical person - Charlize Theron as Aileen Wuornos

Val Rannous
Spies - No Way Out
gambling scene - Ben Hur
best portrayal of a real/historical person - Charleton Heston as Moses

Let me know if any of these are inaccurate. I plan on going through the thread for selection motivation and scenes selected, so if you haven't already described what you wanted, now would be a good time.

 

[higgins]

charvik, I would have PMed you but I'm getting the error where it says you can't receive messages. Any, following was my message...

I couldn't find the scene I wanted from 'Let it Ride' on youtube -- it's the final scene when he wins big. I know that that one scene doesn't necessarily have him making the bet (at least from memory) but the result of the bet is what I'd say is the definition of "having a good day". I hope you at least have seen the movie, and I apologize for not being able to find the scene on youtube (or anywhere else) -- thanks for judging.

 

[charvik]

charvik, I would have PMed you but I'm getting the error where it says you can't receive messages. Any, following was my message...

I couldn't find the scene I wanted from 'Let it Ride' on youtube -- it's the final scene when he wins big. I know that that one scene doesn't necessarily have him making the bet (at least from memory) but the result of the bet is what I'd say is the definition of "having a good day". I hope you at least have seen the movie, and I apologize for not being able to find the scene on youtube (or anywhere else) -- thanks for judging.

Thanks, I cleared out PMs now... I guess the board upgrade messed that up as I had 50+ conversation marked as deleted (but not removed).I'm very familiar with the scene, and own the movie as well, so no problems.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

For the 3 categories I took on, these are the selections on the first page of the thread (the messed up posts):

AcerFC

Spies - North by Northwest

gambling scene - Deer Hunter Russian Roulette Scene

best portrayal of a real/historical person - Denzel Washington as Malcolm X

Aerial Assault

Spies - La Femme Nikita

gambling scene - Run Lola Run

best portrayal of a real/historical person - Val Kilmer as Doc Holiday

Andy Dufresne

Spies - Where Eagles Dare

gambling scene - Croupier

best portrayal of a real/historical person - Reese Witherspoon as June Carter Cash

BobbyLayne

Spies - Confessions of a Dangerous Mind

gambling scene - Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels

best portrayal of a real/historical person - Hillary Swank as Brandon Teena

Doug B

Spies - The Manchurian Candidate

gambling scene - final scene from The Cincinnati Kid

best portrayal of a real/historical person - Ben Kingsley as Gandhi

Dr. Octopus

Spies - Munich

gambling scene - Casino

best portrayal of a real/historical person - Will Smith as Muhammad Ali

higgins

Spies - The Fourth Protocol

gambling scene - Let It Ride

best portrayal of a real/historical person - Daniel Day Lewis as Lincoln

hooter311

Spies - 39 Steps

gambling scene - The Gambler

best portrayal of a real/historical person - Philip Seymour Hoffman as Capote

Joffer

Spies - 3 Days of the Condor

gambling scene - Rounders

best portrayal of a real/historical person - David Straithairn as Edward R. Murrow

John Madden's Lunchbox

Spies - Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy

gambling scene - A Day at the Races

best portrayal of a real/historical person - Eric Bana as Mark "Chopper"

jwb

Spies - XXX

gambling scene - Owning Mahowny

best portrayal of a real/historical person - Val Kilmer as Jim Morrison

Karma Police

Spies - True Lies

gambling scene - Swingers

best portrayal of a real/historical person - Daniel Day Lewis as Christy Brown

krista4

Spies - Charade

gambling scene - The Hustler

best portrayal of a real/historical person - Robert DeNiro as Jake LaMotta

Kumerica

Spies - Spy Game

gambling scene - Casino Royale

best portrayal of a real/historical person - Helen Mirren as The Queen

Mister CIA

Spies - The Day of the Jackal

gambling scene - House of Games

best portrayal of a real/historical person - Paul Giamatti as Harvey Pekar

Mrs. Rannous

Spies - 5 Fingers

gambling scene - Rain Man

best portrayal of a real/historical person - Leonardo DiCaprio as Howard Hughes

Nick Vermeil

Spies - The Conversation

gambling scene - Cool Hand Luke

best portrayal of a real/historical person - Julia Roberts as Erin Brockovich

rikishiboy

Spies - The Spy Who Came In From the Cold

gambling scene - Flash Gordon

best portrayal of a real/historical person - Jamie Foxx as Ray Charles

Tiannamen Tank

Spies - Flame & Citron

gambling scene - The Cooler

best portrayal of a real/historical person - Forest Whitaker as Idi Amin

Time Kibitzer

Spies - The Lives of Others

gambling scene - Craps scene in Hard Eight

best portrayal of a real/historical person - John Hurt as Joseph Merrick

timschochet

Spies - Eye of the Needle

gambling scene - Poker scene from The Sting

best portrayal of a real/historical person - Paul Scofield in A Man For All Seasons

Tish155

Spies - Cloak and Dagger

gambling scene - White Men Can't Jump

best portrayal of a real/historical person - Madonna as Eva Peron

Tremendous Upside

Spies - The Ipcress File

gambling scene - California Split

best portrayal of a real/historical person - Peter O' Toole as Lawrence of Arabia

Usual21

Spies - Spies Like Us

gambling scene - Indecent Proposal

best portrayal of a real/historical person - Charlize Theron as Aileen Wuornos

Val Rannous

Spies - No Way Out

gambling scene - Ben Hur

best portrayal of a real/historical person - Charleton Heston as Moses

Let me know if any of these are inaccurate. I plan on going through the thread for selection motivation and scenes selected, so if you haven't already described what you wanted, now would be a good time.

I'm pretty sure the Rannous' have stated that they have already started viewing the movies they haven't seen in "real/historical person".

I don't care who ends up judging it - but just giving you a head's up before you put too much work into it.

 

[charvik]

Thanks, appreciate it!

Tup said he was 90% done with spies as well, so starting with gambling scene unless I hear from Val that he still wants it.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

Ok. Here we go on Multiple Performances. There were quite a few I hadn't seen and Tim on Dr. Octopus helped me out with two of them. Here is the criteria.

[SIZE=10.5pt]The selections in category covered a wide range of genres and time periods as well as number of characters so I had to apply science to the rankings. I ranked each movie from 1-10 in 4 categories and weighted the categories as follows:[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt] [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Number of characters played: 10%[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Movie quality (an average of my personal feelings and Rotten Tomatoes score): 25%[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Quality of performances: 40%[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Relevance of multiple characters to plot: 25%[/SIZE]

Away we go.....

 

[Nick Vermeil]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Michael J. Fox, Back to the Future Part 2[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Look, I like this movie ok and I love Michael J. Fox but no one would ever confuse him for a character actor. When you cast him in a role, you do it because playing Michael J. Fox is enough. Putting a funny jacket on a guy and having him talk in a high voice is no way to create a character. Playing his own daughter is laughable. It was completely unnecessary for him to play these additional characters.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]3 Characters, 6.7 movie rating, 1 on performance, 4 on relevance to plot [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total score 3.38[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]1 point[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Hillary Duff, The Lizzie McGuire Movie[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I had to fast forward. Not a good movie and the acting is woof. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]2 Characters, 4.5 movie rating, 4 on performance, 7 for relevance to plot[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total score 4.68[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]2 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Richard Pryor, Which Way is Up[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Before I watched this I thought it might score higher since I love Pryor. This movie is not good. There could have been something here but it’s just kind of a mess.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]3 Characters, 3 movie rating, 5 on performance, 7 on relevance[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total score 4.8[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]3 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Tom Hanks, Polar Express[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]One of my most hated animated movies ever. The motion capture is creepy as all get out. The performances here are meh and suffer from being just voice work (Yes, I realize he did the motion capture. Doesn’t help).[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]6 characters, 4.8 movie rating, 5 on performances, 6 on relevance to plot.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total score 5.3[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]4 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Mike Meyers, So I Married an Axe Murder. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]My pick and kind of a punt. Love this movie and the performance. It suffers in the category for the number of characters played and the relevance to plot.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]2 Characters, 6 movie rating, 8 performance, 4 relevance to plot.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total score 5.9[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]5 points[/SIZE]

 

[Nick Vermeil]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Jack Lemmon, The Great Race[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Not two of Jack’s better roles. He only plays the two characters and it isn’t really necessary to do so. The movie is entertaining enough and Natalie Wood is smoking here. Still it a low scorer against the remaining selections.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]2 Characters, 7.35 movie rating, 7 on performance and 6 on relevance.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total score 6.34[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]6 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Buster Keaton, Playhouse[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I wasn’t familiar with this Keaton but he is great as usual. However it’s kind of two movies in one short with all of the multiple characters showing up in an opening dream. The technical aspect for the era is more impressive than the actual performance and when the film moves past the multiples, Keaton is better.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]14 Characters (could have been more, but I grouped them where appropriate), 6 movie rating, 7 performance, 3 relevance. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total score 6.45[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]7 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Eddie Murphy, The Nutty Professor[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Good performances in a bad movie and a handful of unnecessary characters at the family dinner table. The only two characters that are necessary are really two sides of the same person. Still, Murphy is great but this is the lower of his two selections.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]7 Characters, 5.75 movie rating, 8 performance, 5 relevance.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total score: 6.59[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]8 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Armie Hammer, The Social Network[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Hammer does an okay job with important but rarely seen characters in a pretty good movie. But can anyone honestly tell me which brother is which? Is that the point? These roles could have been played by anybody, or any actual twins. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]2 Characters, 8.3 movie rating, 6 on Performance, 8 relevance [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total score: 6.68[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]9 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Halle Berry, Cloud Atlas[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Special guest judging. I haven’t seen it though I have read the book. I can’t imagine it making a good movie.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]7 Characters, 6.4 movie rating, 6 performance, 8 relevance[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total score 6.7[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]10 points[/SIZE]

 

[Nick Vermeil]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Kenneth Branagh, Dead Again[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I’ve never been a fan of this movie. I’ve always felt it was an over the top (which is saying something) rip off of a Brian DePalma film. Branagh overacts here in my opinion brings it down. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]2 Characters, 7.1 movie rating, 6 performance, 10 relevance. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total score 6.88[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]11 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Ed Norton, Leaves of Grass[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Once again a good performance in a pretty forgettable movie. On the quality of Norton’s performance, the selection ranks the highest of the middling picks in the category. The films and performances above it are just so much better.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]2 characters, 5.55 movie ranking, 7 performance, 10 relevance.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total score 6.89[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]12 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Mel Brooks, History of the World Part 1[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]So many good lines and scenes in a classic comedy. Mel may not be the most gifted character creator on the list but he is consistently hilarious. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]5 Characters, 7.1 movie rating, 7 performance, 8 relevance[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total Score 7.08[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]13 Points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Tony Randal, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]This was on TV again last night. It’s a very strange but entertaining film. Randal is great creating a wide range of wild characters, even if it is borderline racist. I like it. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]8 Characters, 8.5 movie rating, 7 performance, 6 relevance[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total Score 7.23[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]14 points [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Eddie Murphy, Coming to America[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Some of the funniest performances out of Murphy in my opinion. I will watch this movie anytime it is on. It suffers from the relevance of his characters but is boosted by his character creation. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]4 characters, 7.9 movie rating, 9 performance, 5 relevance[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total Score 7.23 (tie with Tony Randal, break goes to my preferred film)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]15 points[/SIZE]

 

[Nick Vermeil]

Top ten in a bit.

 

[krista4]

Well done so far. Had not realized what your criteria were--I like them!

 

[Andy Dufresne]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Eddie Murphy[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Some of the funniest performances out of Murphy in my opinion. I will watch this movie anytime it is on. It suffers from the relevance of his characters but is boosted by his character creation. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]4 characters, 7.9 movie rating, 9 performance, 5 relevance[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total Score 7.23 (tie with Tony Randal, break goes to my preferred film)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]15 points[/SIZE]

This is my Coming To America pick?

 

[Nick Vermeil]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Eddie Murphy[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Some of the funniest performances out of Murphy in my opinion. I will watch this movie anytime it is on. It suffers from the relevance of his characters but is boosted by his character creation. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]4 characters, 7.9 movie rating, 9 performance, 5 relevance[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total Score 7.23 (tie with Tony Randal, break goes to my preferred film)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]15 points[/SIZE]

This is my Coming To America pick?

Yes, sorry about that. Updated now.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Hillary Duff, The Lizzie McGuire Movie[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I had to fast forward. Not a good movie and the acting is woof. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]2 Characters, 4.5 movie rating, 4 on performance, 7 for relevance to plot[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total score 4.68[/SIZE]

2 points

One more point than I was anticipating.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Ralph Fiennes, Sunshine[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Another guest ranking, I was unable to see this one.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]3 Characters, 6.7 movie ranking, 8 performance and 10 relevance. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total score 7.68 [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]16 Points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]From here on out I think all of the picks and rankings are obvious except for 1... which was a pleasant surprise. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Jeremy Irons, Dead Ringers[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Irons is terrific as usual in this creepy flick. I don’t particular care for the movie but the Rotten Tomatoes average gives it a boost. Hard to deny the quality of the performance.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]2 Characters, 7.15 movie rating, 8 performance, 10 relevance [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total Score: 7.69[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]17 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Mike Meyers, Austin Powers[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Meyers best film and characters. Not much more to say.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]2 characters, 7.5 movie rating, 8 performance, 10 relevance[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total score 7.78[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]18 Points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Peter Sellers, The Mouse that Roared[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]The lesser known Sellers multiple. I didn’t think I had seen it until I [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]started watching it and it all came back to me. It’s a great premise and I enjoyed it the second time around. Sellers does not slip into these characters as easily as his other selection in the category. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]3 Characters, 8.95 Movie ranking, 7 performance, 10 relevance[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total score 7.84[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]19 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Alec Guinness, Kind Hearts and Coronets[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Obi Wan creates several characters pretty flawlessly in this one. He plays different genders (way better than Michael J fox) and several different generations. His makeup, posture and voice work all help you forget it’s the same actor. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]8 Characters, 9 movie rating, 7 performance, 9 relevance[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total score 8.10[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]20 points[/SIZE]

 

[Nick Vermeil]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Lee Marvin, Cat Ballou[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]A classic western comedy and Marvin is great. Just two characters but they are pretty unforgettable. He won an academy award and it was well deserved. The Man who Shot Liberty Valence is probably the only film of his I like better. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]2 Characters, 9 movie rating, 8 performance, 10 relevance[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total score 8.15[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]21 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]John Cleese, Monty Python and the Holy Grail[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I figured this pick for number 2 until I did the math. I gave Cleese a slight nick on relevance because some of the characters are fringe. But there are few comedic actors like Cleese and the Holy Grail is my favorite of the Python films. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]6 Characters, 9.75 movie rating, 9 performance, 8 relevance[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total score 8.64[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]22 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Sam Rockwell, Moon[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]This was by far the best film in the category that I hadn’t seen. Great movie and Rockwell knocks it out of the park. Playing versions of the same character, he perfectly defines each at differing stages of their mission. He also receives bonus performance points for playing flawlessly against himself through most of the film. Technically I could have counted more characters for him, but 2 I think is the appropriate accurate number. Great pick. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]2 Characters, 9 movie rating, 10 performance, 10 relevance.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total score 8.95[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]23 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Nicholas Cage, Adaptation[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Cage develops two very different and compelling characters and plays well off of himself. This is my favorite Kaufman movie and it’s all because of Cage.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]2 Characters, 9.05 movie rating, 10 performance, 10 relevance[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total score 8.96[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]24 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Peter Sellers, Dr. Strangelove: or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Clearly the best multiple performance film of all time. There are so many great lines and scenes. Sellers is great, the film is an all time great and the characters are some of the best ever in film. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]3 Characters, 10 movie ranking, 10 performance, 10 relevance.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Total score 9.3[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]25 points[/SIZE]

 

[Nick Vermeil]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Time Kibitzer, Peter Sellers, Dr. Strangelove - 25 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Tiannamen Tank, Nicholas Cage, Adaptation - 24 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Kumerica, Sam Rockwell, Moon – 23 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]jwb, John Cleese, Monty Python and the Holy Grail – 22 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]higgins, Lee Marvin, Cat Ballou – 21 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Mrs. Rannous, Alec Guinness, Kind Hearts and Coronets – 20 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Joffer, Peter Sellers, The mouse that Roared – 19 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Aerial Assault, Mike Meyers, Austin Powers - 18 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]timschochet, Jeremy Irons, Dead Ringers - 17 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]krista4, Ralph Fiennes, Sunshine – 16 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Andy Dufresne, Eddie Murphy, Coming to America – 15 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Val Rannous, Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao -14 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Mister CIA Mel Brooks, History of the World Part 1 -13 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]AcerFC, Ed Norton, Leaves of Grass – 12 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Tremendous Upside, Kenneth Branagh, Dead Again – 11 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Doug B, Halle Berry, Cloud Atlas – 10 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Karma Police, Armie Hammer, The Social Network – 9 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]John Maddens Lunchbox, Eddie Murphy, The Nutty Professor – 8 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Bobby Layne, Buster Keaton, Playhouse – 7 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]rikishiboy Jack Lemmon, The Great Race – 6 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Nick Vermeil, Mike Meyers, So I married an Axe murder 5[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Usual 21, Tom Hanks, The Polar Express – 4 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]hooter311, Richard Pryor, Which Way is Up? – 3 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Dr. Octopus, Hillary Duff, The Lizzie McGuire Movie – 2 points[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]tish155, Michael J. Fox, Back to the Future 2 – 1 point[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]This one will knock me out of the lead, at least for a little while.[/SIZE]

 

[charvik]

hooter311

gambling scene - The Gambler

I don't know which scene was selected, and when browsing through the thread yesterday, this one didn't stand out enough for me to register. Could you please provide a clip?ETA: never mind, found the post:

The Gambler - Blackjack Scene

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-jeWvB6xXo

(Starts at 4:43)

Underrated James Caan performance here

I am guessing this was assigned to him, as he was MIA at the end of the draft.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Thanks, appreciate it!

Tup said he was 90% done with spies as well, so starting with gambling scene unless I hear from Val that he still wants it.

Val is most of the way through the gambling scenes. We are planning on finishing with historical persons this weekend.

FIngers crossed.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Nice rankings. Thanks.

 

[charvik]

Thanks, appreciate it!

Tup said he was 90% done with spies as well, so starting with gambling scene unless I hear from Val that he still wants it.

Val is most of the way through the gambling scenes. We are planning on finishing with historical persons this weekend.FIngers crossed.

OK. I can post gambling tonight, as I am done with the rankings already, but since Val wants to keep it, I'll just discard. I'll skip doing historical persons too.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Thanks, appreciate it!

Tup said he was 90% done with spies as well, so starting with gambling scene unless I hear from Val that he still wants it.

Val is most of the way through the gambling scenes. We are planning on finishing with historical persons this weekend.FIngers crossed.

OK. I can post gambling tonight, as I am done with the rankings already, but since Val wants to keep it, I'll just discard. I'll skip doing historical persons too.

If you are ready to go on the gambling scenes, please go ahead. We'll concentrate on the historical stuff.

 

[charvik]

Thanks, appreciate it!

Tup said he was 90% done with spies as well, so starting with gambling scene unless I hear from Val that he still wants it.

Val is most of the way through the gambling scenes. We are planning on finishing with historical persons this weekend.FIngers crossed.

OK. I can post gambling tonight, as I am done with the rankings already, but since Val wants to keep it, I'll just discard. I'll skip doing historical persons too.

If you are ready to go on the gambling scenes, please go ahead. We'll concentrate on the historical stuff.

Cool, will post my rankings within 15 minutes, I just need to get back to my desk.

 

[charvik]

Gambling scene:

Gambling Scene

- Needs to fit in with the movie and not be superfluous

- Needs to make sense (A bad gambling scene that doesn't make sense can ruin a movie

if you're a REAL gambler). If a movie isn't meant to make sense as a whole, then I

might give it a pass - as per the first criteria, context is important.

- Intensity and high sense of risk/reward is a plus

I have attempted to follow the original criteria, and also didn't view who picked what before judging.