Amused to Death
Footballguy
It would also help if Trump would say something - anything - critical about Putin and praise the work the US IC has done.
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The Russia Investigation: Trump Pardons Flynn (5 Viewers)
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Dickies
Footballguy
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Meh.
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cosjobs
Footballguy
dkp993
Footballguy
Probably very true. Even if he does have direct evidence on Trump his supporters will still brush it off and excuse it away. Quagmire is accurate description. But where this likely is heading is even worse. Chances are no matter what he ends up finding on Trump Mueller will in all likely-hood not indict. Almost anyone with knowledge of the man feels like he will present his evidence and leave it to Congress to decide. This is where the quagmire really gets deep.....
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jonessed
Footballguy
Yeah. I did.
I dont expect Mueller to be done any time soon nor do I think it’s completion will give any kind of closure to the issue. It’s been dragged out and leaking...
“It”, as in, “the issue”. The issue of Trump and the Russian investigation. It’s been dragged out with bits of evidence and information leaking out of blogs, the media, Twitter, the FBI, the administration, etc. with few verified sources.
I already explained what I meant though. I don’t see the big deal.
Where's your evidence pal? I still don't see any evidence. This is just a witch hunt, by 12 Angry Democrats. Its a shame you are too blind to see what a farce this whole Mueller "investigation" has become, and how Mueller is trying to tear down all the institutions that make America Great!
Why do you hate America?
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Its all they have to hope for now that the "no Russian contact" narrative has been blown out of the water. Goalposts - gotta keep moving them.This continued narrow vision of just Trump is pretty entertaining. I think it's my favorite shtick out of all of them, especially when they reply with it to posts that are showing what the commission of the investigation was fully about
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Help me understand this aspect - I am not out searching for this stuff, so maybe its out there, but from where I sit, this has been the most tight-lipped investigation that I can recall. I don't hear anything from the Special Counsel's office unless/until its in a legal filing.
I wonder if what you are hearing is coming from the Congressional hearings, and not coming from Mueller.
HellToupee
Footballguy
No American citizens in the indictments and no allegations of vote change/fraud
Hence a Friday news dump
it is pretty interesting that the Russians were checking to see what they were googling ,
as corrupt and inept the FBI might be they did warn the DNC to get their act together
Hence a Friday news dump
it is pretty interesting that the Russians were checking to see what they were googling ,
as corrupt and inept the FBI might be they did warn the DNC to get their act together
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Skoo
Footballguy
The Indestructible
Footballguy
Julia Davis @JuliaDavisNews
From what I'm hearing on Russian state TV, I can surmise that Putin will blame not only Obama, but also Hillary Clinton for the deterioration of U.S.-Russia relations, #Crimea, etc. to create a real bonding experience with Trump. Trump will eat it up. The writing is on the wall.
From what I'm hearing on Russian state TV, I can surmise that Putin will blame not only Obama, but also Hillary Clinton for the deterioration of U.S.-Russia relations, #Crimea, etc. to create a real bonding experience with Trump. Trump will eat it up. The writing is on the wall.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
1. 33: Gates, Manafort, Flynn, Papadoupoulas, Pinedo, and the 28 Russians all fit that bill I believe. VDZ & Kilimnik do not.
2. 4.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Dickies
Footballguy
So you are more concerned with Obama "allowing" it to happen, but not concerned with Trump asking for it to happen?
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
Not even necessary imo.
Trump will sell us out for Trump Moscow in a heartbeat.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Trump is counterintuitive, the indictments will likely drive him closer to Putin.
Well, all of today was 2016 election. Papajohns and Flynn are certainly related to Trump or his campaign.
And, there is no indication that Mueller is close to wrapping this up anytime soon. Lots of evidence still to sift through. I would guess there is lots of evidence that we don't even know about yet.
So, if you want to hang your hat on: "Hey the Russians hacked the DNC, and released information in an effort to help elect Donald Trump (and at least one congressional candidate asked for, and received stolen information), I don't see whats wrong with any of that!"
Then, that is your prerogative. But, it looks to me like we, as in America, got bent over pretty hard. And one party in particular seems to think that its acceptable, and we just need to put it all behind us and move on and be friends with the rapist. Thats a pretty weird position to take.
I am not going to sit here and lie.
I am looking forward to the photoshoot of Trump and Putin bare-chested and riding bareback on a Russian bear hunt.
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
WAIT!
Are we supposed to throw out this part of the Russia investigation because of that whole "fruit from the taint tree" thing? I think Rudy says yes, but I think he also just tweeted no.
So confusing.
Are we supposed to throw out this part of the Russia investigation because of that whole "fruit from the taint tree" thing? I think Rudy says yes, but I think he also just tweeted no.
So confusing.
HellToupee
Footballguy
Alright let’s all set aside our poms poms and be real. You genuinely believe Trump asked for it to happen?
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
hmm. What now?
The Indestructible
Footballguy
I had never given much credence to the theories about the "Russia if you're listening" speech, but I have to now.
As a lawyer, I've never done criminal work or worked for the government, but I've drafted complaints. You choose every word carefully and intentionally.
HellToupee
Footballguy
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
You realize Rudy actually also lied in that tweet, right? There was at least one american involved.(though he / she is yet to be indicted).
time to end the investigation
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The Indestructible
Footballguy
I am still struggling with this one - on what level was today's indictment "good news for all Americans"?
At even a superficial level, it shows Americans were "attacked" by a foreign government - hard to say that is good news.
If you dig a little deeper, you have a good 30-40% of Americans who have steadfastly argued that the Russians did not do anything, but that this was all hoax perpetrated by the DNC, Deep State, and a 400 pound hacker in New Jersey. This can't possibly be good news for those people.
So, how is this "good news for all Americans?"
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Does it really matter that much? He asked for it, and they did it. At a minimum he was incredibly reckless in encouraging a foreign adversary to commit a crime against American citizens- encouragement they seem to have taken to heart regardless of how serious he may have been.
If people wanted Clinton to be imprisoned or disqualified from public service for being "extremely careless" in her management of emails that contained a small amount of classified information, the punishment you should want for Donald Trump being, at a minimum, "extremely careless" in inviting a foreign adversary to commit crimes against Americans that would obviously allow them to obtain that classified information AND successfully getting them to do so should be orders of magnitude worse.
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JamieMurphy
Footballguy
"Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing."
So...yeah
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
cosjobs
Footballguy
adonis
Footballguy
Trump: Russia, if you're listening...
And it appears hours later, they set out to do exactly what he asked for.
There's not much left to the imagination here between his appeal and Russian reaction, as we now have new information from today's indictments.
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Bromigo
so the information in that thing has probably already been put to use to flip witnesses etc right i mean if you are mueller you get that all set before you file this baby right you dont leave those people any time to start cooking books deleting things etc by this point you have them flipped or you have what you need against them right please give me your thoughts take that to the bank brochachos
HellToupee
Footballguy
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Footballguy
HellToupee
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JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
Skoo
Footballguy
....and that's how you know you've been wasting your time responding to a troll.
HellToupee
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