January 6th - what will happen? (3 Viewers)

[KarmaPolice]

Intersting.  I see numerous tweets quoted that would warrant a ban for similar reason that aren't.

By who? 

 

[Sinn Fein]

They were very naïve then.

More than naive, imo.

I don't think we have heard the last of the Capitol Police's role in today's events.

 

[2Squirrels1Nut]

They were very naïve then.

If you look at what Trump has been saying since 2015, I agree.  I guess I'm just hoping it wasn't something nefarious.

 

[the rover]

You think Trump's got a couple Kevin Durant-style Twitter burners?

Hundreds.  They just hand him a key to a bot.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

But I think there’s an interesting question. What if some key positions (cabinet-level or otherwise) just decided to cut Trump out?  Like what if the SecDef, the NSA, and the Joint Chiefs all agreed to just go to Pence and ignore Trump. 
 

This would, of course, be a bona fide coup,  But maybe one everyone would turn a blind eye to for two weeks. 

 

[Death Bytes]

But he also needs to have a majority of the Cabinet or such body as Congress has designated by law agree. Pence can’t do it alone. 

True. But if Pence is willing, a majority of the Cabinet is likely willing as well. The calls for it being invoked are flooding my social media feed, even by some people I know supported Trump. 

 

[Sinn Fein]

But I think there’s an interesting question. What if some key positions (cabinet-level or otherwise) just decided to cut Trump out?  Like what if the SecDef, the NSA, and the Joint Chiefs all agreed to just go to Pence and ignore Trump. 
 

This would, of course, be a bona fide coup,  But maybe one everyone would turn a blind eye to for two weeks. 

I don't think the military would skirt the rules like that.

"We follow orders, son. We follow orders or people die. It's that simple. Are we clear?"

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

17 GOP Senators required.

Not to invoke. To remove if Trump challenges the invocation. 

 

[culdeus]

Fox trying to say the violence came from antifa.  Never change guys.

 

[JAA]

Can someone dig out Trump's July 27th tweet where he stated anyone vandalizing or damaging any Federal building in any city or state would face a minimum ten years in prison?  Seems relevant.

this

 

[BassNBrew]

Intersting.  I see numerous tweets quoted that would warrant a ban for similar reason that aren't.

By who? 

Not worth the time.

I'm going to step out of this thread.  Final comment is that I would prefer to see Trump removed or impeached tonight rather than his twitter account banned (based on the tweets I saw).  IMO there is more justification for the former than the latter.

 

[hagmania]

This was not an "inside job" - what? C'mon.

Seemed like a protest where there was zero organization of the group. There were splinters of craziness - being those that breached the actual threshold of the Capitol, but as for everyone outside of it, just seemed like a normal group mentality thing going on.

 

[bigbottom]

Today's violent assault on our Capitol, an effort to subjugate American democracy by mob rule, was fomented by Mr. Trump.

His use of the Presidency to destroy trust in our election and to poison our respect for fellow citizens has been enabled by pseudo political leaders whose names will live in infamy as profiles in cowardice.

~ General James Mattis (ret)

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Does law enforcement usually wear a cap with an American Flag with an AR-15 on it?  Or a flag patch with the Punisher logo?

On another topic, now that there are a lot of videos of the law nightsticking and pepper spraying protestors , what are your thoughts on your earlier posts that implied these people were just being left to do their thing compared to the protestors from last summer/fall?

 

[BladeRunner]

Fox trying to say the violence came from antifa.  Never change guys.

 Antifa/BLM sure lit the path and set the standard.  But, sure, not responsible for today.

 

[Mile High]

Fox trying to say the violence came from antifa.  Never change guys.

All these peaceful protesters were there to celebrate the overthrowing of the 2020 presidential election. 

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

I don't think the military would skirt the rules like that.

"We follow orders, son. We follow orders or people die. It's that simple. Are we clear?"

Orders are to only obey lawful orders and to defend the Constitution. 
 

it’s just curious, because just as Pence lacked the authority to discard certifications unilaterally, he also lacks the authority to deploy the DC National Guard. But he did so. 

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Today's violent assault on our Capitol, an effort to subjugate American democracy by mob rule, was fomented by Mr. Trump.

His use of the Presidency to destroy trust in our election and to poison our respect for fellow citizens has been enabled by pseudo political leaders whose names will live in infamy as profiles in cowardice.

~ General James Mattis (ret)

Irony is dead. 

 

[the rover]

Fox trying to say the violence came from antifa.  Never change guys.

They've been saying that all day.   It's now the mantra for Trump supporters on twitter.   They were set up.  Just having a picnic, listening to speeches.   

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Know. White nationalists were live-streaming from Pelosi’s office, for Christ’s sake. 

 

[Sinn Fein]

Orders are to only obey lawful orders and to defend the Constitution. 
 

it’s just curious, because just as Pence lacked the authority to discard certifications unilaterally, he also lacks the authority to deploy the DC National Guard. But he did so. 

That is why people are questioning if they should call Pence, Mr. President.

But, as a more serious response to the military question - I don't see those guys abandoning what they see as the chain of command here, its just not their nature.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

That’s great. But that’s not what you said in the post I quoted and commented on

If there is something that you didn't understand, or wanted me to elucidate on further, you can simply ask. Happy to engage earnestly if there is an earnest attempt at dialogue.

Instead you just went to accusing me of being wrong, and averred that I am missing something.

I'd like to think that civil discourse is still a thing. I am honestly not really sure it is.

 

[zoonation]

McConnell bringing the heat again. 

 

[bigbottom]

That is why people are questioning if they should call Pence, Mr. President.

But, as a more serious response to the military question - I don't see those guys abandoning what they see as the chain of command here, its just not their nature.

Interestingly, when Chuck Schumer began his speech earlier today, he addressed Pence as “Mr. President.”

EDIT: And he just did it again!

EDIT #2: I’m an idiot. 

 

[zoonation]

Interestingly, when Chuck Schumer began his speech earlier today, he addressed Pence as “Mr. President.”

He is the “president” of the senate, no?

 

[SWC]

hes the president of the senate take that to the bank bromigo 

 

[tri-man 47]

True. But if Pence is willing, a majority of the Cabinet is likely willing as well. The calls for it being invoked are flooding my social media feed, even by some people I know supported Trump. 

Taking the action would be a real power move by Pence, which he might view as helpful to his political future.   And Cabinet members would feel pressure for their future careers ...would they want to be remembered for a final act of allowing this to happen without repercussions?  If Pence succeeds, he's the one hanging around at the inauguration and goes out on a professional high note.  If his effort fails, then he can always say that he was the righteous public servant who bravely stood up for democracy, even when those around him would not.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Interestingly, when Chuck Schumer began his speech earlier today, he addressed Pence as “Mr. President.”

EDIT: And he just did it again!

Interesting.

Not watching now, but heard it earlier.  I think Klobuchar might have done the same thing. 

 

[Ilov80s]

I'm not Republican

Never said you were 

 

[belljr]

I don't care where you fall on the political spectrum but going into the Senate chambers is absolute lunacy. And it's not just something you can do. They have posted guarda by the rooms also.  I hope nothing was damaged in the original Senate chambers 

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Interesting.

Not watching now, but heard it earlier.  I think Klobuchar might have done the same thing. 

He”s the President of the Senate. That’s the correct form of address. 

 

[Ilov80s]

Interesting.

Not watching now, but heard it earlier.  I think Klobuchar might have done the same thing. 

President of the Senate 

 

[bigbottom]

He is the “president” of the senate, no?

Well, he corrected himself earlier today and said Mr. Vice President after first saying Mr. President. Didn’t do that tonight though.

 

[Sinn Fein]

He”s the President of the Senate. That’s the correct form of address. 

President of the Senate 

The old "Hiding in plain sight" routine...

 

[Westerberg]

Interestingly, when Chuck Schumer began his speech earlier today, he addressed Pence as “Mr. President.”

EDIT: And he just did it again!

He's President of the Senate.

eta: little late.

 

[bigbottom]

He”s the President of the Senate. That’s the correct form of address. 

Not sure why he corrected himself earlier then. 

 

[Cowboysfan8]

If there is something that you didn't understand, or wanted me to elucidate on further, you can simply ask. Happy to engage earnestly if there is an earnest attempt at dialogue.

Instead you just went to accusing me of being wrong, and averred that I am missing something.

I'd like to think that civil discourse is still a thing. I am honestly not really sure it is.

I’m wrong often. I try to admit it everytime. Hell I just did a page or two ago

Is saying “you’re wrong” and pointing out why not civil now?

 

[culdeus]

So that girl died, more or less to speed the process up by two days and get Trump removed a couple weeks early?  Fox seems to want to make her a martyr.  Carlson went so far to say more or less she "doesn't look like a BLM protestor" while praising her.

 

[gianmarco]

In case nobody knew, he's the president of the Senate.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Getting back to more pressing matters, Josh Hawley’s ridiculously undersized suits bother me as much as Trump’s ridiculously baggy ones. 
 

Americans demand a sensible, centrist fit. 

 

[bigbottom]

Not sure why he corrected himself earlier then. 

https://youtu.be/cHoHXM9DI1w

 

[the rover]

Getting back to more pressing matters, Josh Hawley’s ridiculously undersized suits bother me as much as Trump’s ridiculously baggy ones. 
 

Americans demand a sensible, centrist fit. 

At least he wears a jacket.  I'm looking at you, Jim Jordan.

 

[the rover]

https://youtu.be/cHoHXM9DI1w

I saw that today and I wondered why he corrected himself.   

 

[Sinn Fein]

At least he wears a jacket.  I'm looking at you, Jim Jordan.

Are you in a shower, by any chance?

 

[zoonation]

Not sure why he corrected himself earlier then. 

I think it is more a case of wearing two hats and people forget. 

 

[belljr]

So that girl died, more or less to speed the process up by two days and get Trump removed a couple weeks early?  Fox seems to want to make her a martyr.  Carlson went so far to say more or less she "doesn't look like a BLM protestor" while praising her.

They still interviewing the guy that is asking why they didn't investigate the election?

 

[SWC]

maybe he is also the president of a sizzler franchise because hell I would recognize that all day long take that to the bank bromigos  

 

[Franknbeans]

What a skid mark of a legacy

 

[the rover]

Did Cruz speak yet?  I expect him to withdraw his objections.

 

[The General]

Ted Cruz's speech going to be extra special.