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FairWarning
Footballguy
And they are $125 mil under the cap, so they have the most to spend.
Price is probably 3 1sts for Fields too.
Yeah is Fields or Young more expensive? Same maybe. Good problem for the Bears to have.
I'd think Bears would prefer to keep the guy who they already have, who knows and had success in the system. Other teams would prefer the guy with 2 extra rookie contract seasons.
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
I think they need Carter. They can only trade down far enough that they are still getting him.
Jayded
Footballguy
They can have Lovie and Caserio too. Just helping bolster the awfulness.
Mills/Cooks/#2 pick, Browns 1st, Texans 2nd is probably what I'd want to move from 1 to 2.
ETA: Then probably look to trade down from #2 if someone wants Levis or Stroud.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
I would trade to 3 and, hopefully, get Anderson. They have so many holes that you might as well take best available.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
They should stay put and take an elite player.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
Trade with Indy. #1 for #5, 2024 1st, 2023 2nd and Michael Pittman Jr?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
They’re gonna get a fortune from someone who moves up - probably the Colts.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
They could absolutely molest the Colts and still get an elite player at 6.
I'd be surprised if that was considered a serious knock on Young.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Young has shown he’s better than Murray, IMO. He can make all the throws and his poise under pressure is legendary. He’s gonna be a fine pro.
He and Stroud are clearly the QB1-2 in whichever order. Stroud’s performance on NYE against that tough defense answered any questions about his game IMO.
The interesting thing is Caleb Williams in 2024, is probably an Andrew Luck/Peyton Manning level prospect. Some teams could decide to wait until 2024 for their QB.
I think Levis>Stroud. Its Herbert/Tua all over again.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I have huge concerns about Levi’s decision making. His brain isn’t anywhere near as good as his arm, and that can be difficult to coach up.
Stroud is a much better decision maker - sometimes having a huge arm gets guys in trouble.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Maybe but to give up multiple 1sts and take basically the smallest QB in the modern era at 1.01 is a risky move. He is probably 5'10 180 pounds.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
We say this almost every year and it just as almost never happens.
History of Trading The First Overall Pick In The NFL Draft
Since 1970, there have been just nine times where two teams agreed on a trade knowing that it was for the first overall draft pick. Will a trade up for Jameis Winston make number ten? Let’s go in reverse chronological order and look at every instance since the AFL-NFL merger when the first...
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As far as I can tell, the only one missing is the one for Goff.
Tennessee Titans received:
- Picks No. 15, 43, 45, 76 in the 2016 draft
- Picks No. 5, 100 in the 2017 draft
Los Angeles Rams received:
- Picks No. 1, 113 in the 2017 draft
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
I'd love that even knowing Pittman is due a contract soon.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
True, but there are a couple of very good quarterbacks coming out this year. And there are several very quarterback me the teams at the top of the draft.We say this almost every year and it just as almost never happens.
History of Trading The First Overall Pick In The NFL Draft
Since 1970, there have been just nine times where two teams agreed on a trade knowing that it was for the first overall draft pick. Will a trade up for Jameis Winston make number ten? Let’s go in reverse chronological order and look at every instance since the AFL-NFL merger when the first...
As far as I can tell, the only one missing is the one for Goff.
Tennessee Titans received:
- Picks No. 15, 43, 45, 76 in the 2016 draft
- Picks No. 5, 100 in the 2017 draft
Los Angeles Rams received:
- Picks No. 1, 113 in the 2017 draft
Stroud is probably better if your concern is week 1 of 2023. I just don't think Stroud's upside is even close to Levis. I mean, Mayfield was better than Allen or Lamar as a rookie.
Levis also has had an awful OL, and mostly poor WR talent. Stroud has 1st rounders all around him, including likely 4 1st round WRs (Wilson, Olave, JSN, Harrison Jr.) Levis had Wan' Dale Robinson.
FairWarning
Footballguy
If you scout right, you can find elite players. When they traded up to get Trubisky, they were so impressed with the interview, they didn’t talk to Mahomes.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Uh huh. And since there are a couple of doesn't make it imperative to get the first guy. The Bears could very well find a buyer but it's not likely to be the "kings ransom" that everyone always thinks the #1 will fetch.True, but there are a couple of very good quarterbacks coming out this year. And there are several very quarterback me the teams at the top of the draft.We say this almost every year and it just as almost never happens.
History of Trading The First Overall Pick In The NFL Draft
Since 1970, there have been just nine times where two teams agreed on a trade knowing that it was for the first overall draft pick. Will a trade up for Jameis Winston make number ten? Let’s go in reverse chronological order and look at every instance since the AFL-NFL merger when the first...
As far as I can tell, the only one missing is the one for Goff.
Tennessee Titans received:
- Picks No. 15, 43, 45, 76 in the 2016 draft
- Picks No. 5, 100 in the 2017 draft
Los Angeles Rams received:
- Picks No. 1, 113 in the 2017 draft
And I agree with @Ilov80s - Young is too small to give up the farm for.
massraider
Footballguy
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Sure, you could roll the dice that Mythical Player X is better than the guy you know you could get at #1 (in this case, say, Anderson or Carter).
FairWarning
Footballguy
It’s going to be a very interesting offseason for qb shopping.
You could get those guys at 3 or 4 though and get compensation
FairWarning
Footballguy
Anderson or Carter doesn’t make them that much better when you have holes everywhere. Too many years of trading draft picks for names have really set them back. They need quantity as much as quality.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Seattle or Arizona are going to trade to #1. I highly doubt it.
FairWarning
Footballguy
Hou or Indy may.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
They make them better at the holes they fill. Much better.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Randomly driving by, I can visualize Bryce Young being an awesome pick for the Texans.
Full disclosure: I don't know what thread I'm in.
Thought the colts moved up to 4 my bad. Teams picking 2, 3, 5, maybe 6, 7, 8 and 9 all could be interested in moving up for a qb
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Indy may. But now you're at #5.
Houston you'd have to convince that sometime is going to leapfrog them. Actually that might not be that hard.
Anyone know how to quote just the last reply in a string?
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
There aren't though. There are decent QB's. None of these guys even should be 1.1 really. They might because the current NFL is so QB crazy. None of these guys are even close to a Lawrence or Burrow level prospect.True, but there are a couple of very good quarterbacks coming out this year. And there are several very quarterback me the teams at the top of the draft.We say this almost every year and it just as almost never happens.
History of Trading The First Overall Pick In The NFL Draft
Since 1970, there have been just nine times where two teams agreed on a trade knowing that it was for the first overall draft pick. Will a trade up for Jameis Winston make number ten? Let’s go in reverse chronological order and look at every instance since the AFL-NFL merger when the first...
As far as I can tell, the only one missing is the one for Goff.
Tennessee Titans received:
- Picks No. 15, 43, 45, 76 in the 2016 draft
- Picks No. 5, 100 in the 2017 draft
Los Angeles Rams received:
- Picks No. 1, 113 in the 2017 draft
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Of course it's possible. But IMO it's not a slam dunk and it isn't the automatically guaranteed haul everyone seems to assume.
Jayded
Footballguy
They need a franchise QB. I’m on record as feeling that is Young or nothing in this draft (don’t believe in the others).
Now since the Texans foolishly made their bed, they better not trade up. They did this so they need to stay there. If Bryce falls, I expect them to take him. If Indy/Seattle go get Bryce, I want Anderson and weapons the rest of the draft.
Texans blew this so bad I want them to tank for Williams in 2024 now and trash next season.
Bears have all the cap space in the world, but they are likely looking at 10+ new starters next year, and that isn't counting guys taking over jobs like Khalil Herbert.
I think staying at #1 would be the worst decision they could make. Unless they decided to deal Fields, which seems incredibly unlikely, as he's probably the best QB they've had in 30+ years.
Currently the picks of teams I could see trading for #1:
Texans(2), Seattle(3), Detroit(6), Vegas(7), Falcons(8), Panthers(9), Titans(11)
Panthers seem like a team that is drafting a QB for sure. I could see Seattle and Detroit staying put, but I think they both know their QBs are just ok, and not elite. Both guys are looking at 30+ million as well.
I'm getting the impression I'm a lot higher on Bryce Young than others. I see a cross between Wilson/Brees.
I think staying at #1 would be the worst decision they could make. Unless they decided to deal Fields, which seems incredibly unlikely, as he's probably the best QB they've had in 30+ years.
Currently the picks of teams I could see trading for #1:
Texans(2), Seattle(3), Detroit(6), Vegas(7), Falcons(8), Panthers(9), Titans(11)
Panthers seem like a team that is drafting a QB for sure. I could see Seattle and Detroit staying put, but I think they both know their QBs are just ok, and not elite. Both guys are looking at 30+ million as well.
I'm getting the impression I'm a lot higher on Bryce Young than others. I see a cross between Wilson/Brees.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I think Stroud is pretty close to Burrow.There aren't though. There are decent QB's. None of these guys even should be 1.1 really. They might because the current NFL is so QB crazy. None of these guys are even close to a Lawrence or Burrow level prospect.True, but there are a couple of very good quarterbacks coming out this year. And there are several very quarterback me the teams at the top of the draft.We say this almost every year and it just as almost never happens.
History of Trading The First Overall Pick In The NFL Draft
Since 1970, there have been just nine times where two teams agreed on a trade knowing that it was for the first overall draft pick. Will a trade up for Jameis Winston make number ten? Let’s go in reverse chronological order and look at every instance since the AFL-NFL merger when the first...
As far as I can tell, the only one missing is the one for Goff.
Tennessee Titans received:
- Picks No. 15, 43, 45, 76 in the 2016 draft
- Picks No. 5, 100 in the 2017 draft
Los Angeles Rams received:
- Picks No. 1, 113 in the 2017 draft
I also think Young is a better version of Kyler Murray.
I believe both of these quarterbacks will be excellent pros. But that’s just like, my opinion, maaaaan.
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