Jayrod
Footballguy
I'm enjoying some of the new up and comers in the playoffs and Orlando is one of those. Should be a good 4/5 series.
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2023-24 NBA (Playoffs!) Thread: Mavs - Boston it is (11 Viewers)
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Kev4029
Footballguy
I hate their list after the top 15-20. Some that I think are hugely misplaced:
- Sabonis #24. Hard for me to like an all offense no defense center that lead his team to 13th in offensive rating. I would probably have him 10-15 spots down (in Porzingis/Young/Siakam land).
- KAT #27. Hard for me to like an all offense no defense center that lead his team to 16th in offensive rating. Salary excluded, is there anybody that would take him above guys like OG Anunoby, Mikal Bridges, Jrue Holiday, or Desmond Bane? Maybe if you needed some offense as the Hornets or Pistons or something.
- Gobert #34. Obviously, I'm the minority, but I just don't understand why people don't consider him for All-NBA. He kind of sucks offensively (and holy **** have his hands regressed), but he knows his role at least, and he is by far the best defensive player on a team that won 56 games because they are by far the best defense in the NBA. I would have him late teens/low 20s.
- Harden #38. Since the AS break, his counting stats have been fine, but the Clippers have been -3.9/100 with him on the court and his TS% is at .554. And his defense isn't getting any better.
- Brandon Ingram #29. I just hate his style of basketball. No defense and ball stopping offense that trades threes for ****ty long twos. The epitome of good stats bad team kinda guy.
- Wemby #16. He may be that next year and obviously has the skillset to be much better than #16, but he's more late 20s until he can be efficient offensively.
- Morant #31. He deserves a knock for not being available but he's ****ing electric.
- Banchero #33. I like Paolo and expect him to get some All-NBA love eventually, but he's terribly inefficient and a poor rebounder for his position.
- White #42. He is a great fourth best player but I have a hard time seeing him as being a passable #2.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I'll be surprised (and disappointed) if this is a competitive series. I'll also be surprised (and delighted) if Cavs v Celtics is a competitive series.I'm enjoying some of the new up and comers in the playoffs and Orlando is one of those. Should be a good 4/5 series.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Greatest post ever.
Capella
Footballguy
Why? Do you think the Cavs are good?I'll be surprised (and disappointed) if this is a competitive series. I'll also be surprised (and delighted) if Cavs v Celtics is a competitive series.I'm enjoying some of the new up and comers in the playoffs and Orlando is one of those. Should be a good 4/5 series.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Competitive game so far.I'll be surprised (and disappointed) if this is a competitive series. I'll also be surprised (and delighted) if Cavs v Celtics is a competitive series.I'm enjoying some of the new up and comers in the playoffs and Orlando is one of those. Should be a good 4/5 series.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Man start of the third was a fire-y run but uh after that...........
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Knicks scored 73 in a game against the Sixers. Not sure if it was the lowest.
Edit: it does appear to be lowest. Second was 74…by the Magic…against the Knicks. Third was 2 games of 79, both by the Sixers…both against the Knicks (which is how I knew that 73 point game).
Instinctive
Footballguy
Wolves Suns already looks like it oughta be super fun
MAC_32
Footballguy
Experience, I don't think Orlando matches up well with this Cavs D, and it appears Mitchell's healthy again. I thought we'd see an over-correction from the Cavs bigs after being physically dominated last year and that's what played out - controlled the glass and outscored the Magic in the paint. Team was 38-20 when Mitchell initially went down and he didn't look the same again until the final 2 home games - more of the same today. Team turned the ball over 17 times, went ice cold from 3 for 2 1/2 quarters, and still won going away. This will be a good experience for Banchero, but he can't do it all himself and that's what's being asked of him on O, which is probably why he turned it over 9 times today. Someone(s) from the rotation will probably lead to at least one dub in Orlando, but unless Wagner miraculously finds his shot it's probably on Suggs in conjunction with a cold Cavs shooting night to steal a game in Cleveland.Why? Do you think the Cavs are good?I'll be surprised (and disappointed) if this is a competitive series. I'll also be surprised (and delighted) if Cavs v Celtics is a competitive series.I'm enjoying some of the new up and comers in the playoffs and Orlando is one of those. Should be a good 4/5 series.
I'm expecting Cavs in 5
Capella
Footballguy
Experience, I don't think Orlando matches up well with this Cavs D, and it appears Mitchell's healthy again. I thought we'd see an over-correction from the Cavs bigs after being physically dominated last year and that's what played out - controlled the glass and outscored the Magic in the paint. Team was 38-20 when Mitchell initially went down and he didn't look the same again until the final 2 home games - more of the same today. Team turned the ball over 17 times, went ice cold from 3 for 2 1/2 quarters, and still won going away. This will be a good experience for Banchero, but he can't do it all himself and that's what's being asked of him on O, which is probably why he turned it over 9 times today. Someone(s) from the rotation will probably lead to at least one dub in Orlando, but unless Wagner miraculously finds his shot it's probably on Suggs in conjunction with a cold Cavs shooting night to steal a game in Cleveland.Why? Do you think the Cavs are good?I'll be surprised (and disappointed) if this is a competitive series. I'll also be surprised (and delighted) if Cavs v Celtics is a competitive series.I'm enjoying some of the new up and comers in the playoffs and Orlando is one of those. Should be a good 4/5 series.
I'm expecting Cavs in 5
Makes sense to me. I bet Cavs in 7. I doubt it goes that far now.
Capella
Footballguy
Boston over Miami in 5
Cavs over Orlando in 7
Philly over Knicks in 6
Milwaukee over Indiana in 7
Boston over Cavs in 4
Milwaukee over Philly in 7
Boston over Milwaukee in 6
OKC over Pelicans in 7
Mavs over Clips in 6
Denver over Lakers in 5
Suns over Wolves in 6
Mavs over OKC in 6
Denver over Suns in 5
Denver over Mavs in 7
Denver over Boston in 7
Cavs over Orlando in 7
Philly over Knicks in 6
Milwaukee over Indiana in 7
Boston over Cavs in 4
Milwaukee over Philly in 7
Boston over Milwaukee in 6
OKC over Pelicans in 7
Mavs over Clips in 6
Denver over Lakers in 5
Suns over Wolves in 6
Mavs over OKC in 6
Denver over Suns in 5
Denver over Mavs in 7
Denver over Boston in 7
Kev4029
Footballguy
Of those games...
Knicks with 73, had an 86.0 ORtg
Magic with 74, had an 87.8 ORtg
Sixers games, had ORtgs of 93.0 and 91.7
This afternoon, the Magic had an ORtg of 86.5. After the first quarter, it was an 80.3.
Kev4029
Footballguy
Extrapolating what I quickly put together in the Playoff pool thing we are doing (hopefully I mathed that all right)...
Boston over Miami in 5
Cavs over Orlando in 7
Philly over Knicks in 6
Indiana over Milwaukee in 7
Boston over Cavs in 5
Philly over Indy in 5
Boston over Philly in 6
OKC over Pelicans in 5
Mavs over Clips in 7
Denver over Lakers in 5
Suns over Wolves in 7
Mavs over OKC in 7
Denver over Suns in 5
Denver over Mavs in 5
Denver over Boston in 6
Me and Cappy were remarkably close in the West. He's wrong all over the place in the east, but that's ok.
Boston over Miami in 5
Cavs over Orlando in 7
Philly over Knicks in 6
Indiana over Milwaukee in 7
Boston over Cavs in 5
Philly over Indy in 5
Boston over Philly in 6
OKC over Pelicans in 5
Mavs over Clips in 7
Denver over Lakers in 5
Suns over Wolves in 7
Mavs over OKC in 7
Denver over Suns in 5
Denver over Mavs in 5
Denver over Boston in 6
Me and Cappy were remarkably close in the West. He's wrong all over the place in the east, but that's ok.
Kev4029
Footballguy
It's amazing to me that a team that starts what should be one of the best three point shooting groups 1-4 in the history of the NBA, and a team that does exclusively rely on jump shooting for success has not figured out the math game. In a game where they have attempted more free throws, have fewer turnovers, and are only being outshot from the field by 5%, they somehow managing to lose by nearly 20 points. That is a remarkable accomplishment.
the moops
Footballguy
I would take KAT over all those guys you listed.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
The Twolves should win this series in 5 or 6.
Major
Footballguy
The Suns have no heart. Seems to be a trend with KD led teams.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
KD led teams or Booker led teams? Seemed to me like KD was the only one that showed up today. Booker seems to always get a pass for the shortcomings of his teams performances.
Instinctive
Footballguy
I am in the middle. If you told me theyre all healthy always I would take all but Holiday, who i would take depending on team context.
If health mattered like real life, I probably don't auto take Anunoby. He becomes team context too.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Booker is a frontrunning loser. Stay off my corner. I own this take. I can't believe the national media still has never hammered it. Total baby who folds whenever it gets tough and shines only when it doesn't matter.
Major
Footballguy
Both of them I just look at KD as the guy who should be leading his teams to greatness but he'd rather sit back and defer to others.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Well Embiid just killed himself
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Looked awesome but wasn't necessary.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
I must have watched a different game than you. I thought KD easily looked like the best and most dominant player on the Suns today. Don’t get me wrong—I get how KD can be a guy that is easy to hate—but I think that if the Suns don’t perform to their max this season—Booker needs to be the dude that starts taking blame. The guy sat there and let Ayton be a scapegoat for the teams shortcomings—when the guy was putting up 16pts, 10 rebounds on nearly 60% from the field as the third or fourth option. If the Suns are Bookers team—he needs to own the lion share of the responsibility. I just haven’t gotten the vibe that he understands that yet. He’s certainly young and is immensely talented—so perhaps this will change.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Well he is back
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
It’s weird that when I saw him hurt his knee and leave the game—I was hoping that he’d be okay. Now that he’s back—I’m both happy and worried. If the dude basically feels what seemingly looked like a catastrophic injury after a single dunk (albeit a really cool one)—I’m not sure how good or confident i feel about him playing. I hope it was just a scare and that he stays healthy. I feel like this series, and the entire Eastern conference is more interesting with a healthy embiid.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
welcome to the last 10 years of hell as a Sixers fan.
Jayrod
Footballguy
They were talking about how he is struggling with it mentally. Seems like maybe any time he feels any sharp pain he assumes it is reinjured.
Major
Footballguy
I wasn't just referring to this game more the overall performance and make up of that team. No heart. I mean look at the Knicks and what a scrappy bunch of players with will can do. PHX needs some of that.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Tobias really earning that contract
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Knicks are clutch from 3 in the 4th Q
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Why didn't Philly foul? Dumb.
Insein
Footballguy
IDK but it was over anyway
massraider
Footballguy
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I am not sure Jokic.would be able to dunk if he wasn't 7 feet tall, and that is awesome.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
Good start!! Lakers have to feel defeated as Bron and Ad threw all they had at them and the supporting cast let them down again.
Capella
Footballguy
Yea Bron and AD were awesome and the Lakers still have no chance. Supporting cast sucks.
I really hope Bron spends his last few years on a legit contender. I don’t know the cap situations but going to a place like the Knicks would be awesome. I assume he just wants to stay in LA.
I really hope Bron spends his last few years on a legit contender. I don’t know the cap situations but going to a place like the Knicks would be awesome. I assume he just wants to stay in LA.
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