Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
All these kickers I dropped getting big contracts.
If I’d held them I coulda sold for draft picks. Stoopid roster size limits.
If I’d held them I coulda sold for draft picks. Stoopid roster size limits.
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2024 Free Agency Discussion (2 Viewers)
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I want that poking the thing with a stick meme for FA. “Do something”
GregR
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Aaaaand Erik Kendricks signed with the Cowboys, backing out of his deal with the 49ers.
Well
Well
GregR
Footballguy
The Philadelphia Eagles have denied impermissible contact between general manager Howie Roseman and running back Saquon Barkley during the negotiating window before the start of free agency.
Barkley, a Penn State alum and Pennsylvania native, agreed to terms with the Eagles on a three-year, $37.75 million contract that includes $26 million fully guaranteed at signing. His former coach at Penn State, James Franklin, suggested Roseman spoke to Barkley directly during the "legal tampering" period, which is not allowed.
Said Franklin: "For him now to come back and be able to play within the state, in Philadelphia, he said that was one of the first things that Howie said to him on the phone as part of his sales pitch to him was not only the Philadelphia Eagles and that but obviously the connection with Penn State and the fan base as well."
Teams are not allowed to talk directly to players during the negotiating window unless the player represents himself. An Eagles spokesperson said that all recruiting done by the team is facilitated through the agent.
Barkley, a Penn State alum and Pennsylvania native, agreed to terms with the Eagles on a three-year, $37.75 million contract that includes $26 million fully guaranteed at signing. His former coach at Penn State, James Franklin, suggested Roseman spoke to Barkley directly during the "legal tampering" period, which is not allowed.
Said Franklin: "For him now to come back and be able to play within the state, in Philadelphia, he said that was one of the first things that Howie said to him on the phone as part of his sales pitch to him was not only the Philadelphia Eagles and that but obviously the connection with Penn State and the fan base as well."
Teams are not allowed to talk directly to players during the negotiating window unless the player represents himself. An Eagles spokesperson said that all recruiting done by the team is facilitated through the agent.
GregR
Footballguy
So latest word is, the Texans and 49ers were near to trading Maliek Collins for DT Arik Armstead. But when Houston signed Danielle Hunter that changed things. Armstead would have still had a big salary for Houston (at least $17m, and possibly $23m or more, as OvertheCap and Spotrac have some different numbers so I can't tell for sure) if I'm reading right. So instead they traded the 7th round pick for Maliek.
There is word Houston is pursuing Armstead now he's been released and is a free agent. Other teams are pursuing him too. I see some media speculation that Houston might have done enough on the DL that there might not be enough need left for a signing of that size there, though.
There is word Houston is pursuing Armstead now he's been released and is a free agent. Other teams are pursuing him too. I see some media speculation that Houston might have done enough on the DL that there might not be enough need left for a signing of that size there, though.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
His career high was 76rec 1146yds.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I stand corrected. I was sure I’d read 1400 somewhere. Maybe he was “on pace for” before injury.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
He played 16 games that year.
Only season I can find where he was on pace for 1400 was this year, but that was after 3 games so whomever extrapolated that after 3 games was doing some serious reaching as there were probably 50 players "on pace" for 1400 yards at that point.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I still think he’s a very capable receiver when healthy. If a team can get him on a 1-year incentive-laden contract they’d potentially have a bargain if he stays healthy.
Big if, I realize. But he’s got the rare size & speed combo most teams are missing. Still think he’d be a great target for the chiefs.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Free agency "grades" after one day of free agency - are they more or less meaningful than draft grades the day after the draft?
GregR
Footballguy
The NFL is reviewing whether the Atlanta Falcons and Philadelphia Eagles violated tampering policies during the legal tampering window, a league spokesman said Thursday.
Teams are permitted to talk directly with agents during the 52-hour negotiating window, but can't speak to the player unless he has no agent and represents himself.
Penn State football coach James Franklin told a reporter that Eagles general manager Howie Roseman spoke to Barkley and pitched him on the connection between the Eagles and Nittany Lions fan bases.
In Atlanta's case, Cousins said Wednesday: "There's great people here. And it's not just the football team. I mean, I'm looking at the support staff. Meeting -- calling, yesterday, calling our head athletic trainer, talking to our head of PR I'm thinking, we got good people here. And that's exciting to be a part of."
Cousins wasn't permitted to speak to anyone before 4 p.m. EDT on Wednesday.
Teams are permitted to talk directly with agents during the 52-hour negotiating window, but can't speak to the player unless he has no agent and represents himself.
Penn State football coach James Franklin told a reporter that Eagles general manager Howie Roseman spoke to Barkley and pitched him on the connection between the Eagles and Nittany Lions fan bases.
In Atlanta's case, Cousins said Wednesday: "There's great people here. And it's not just the football team. I mean, I'm looking at the support staff. Meeting -- calling, yesterday, calling our head athletic trainer, talking to our head of PR I'm thinking, we got good people here. And that's exciting to be a part of."
Cousins wasn't permitted to speak to anyone before 4 p.m. EDT on Wednesday.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
With friends like James Franklin and Kirk Cousins, who needs enemies?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
They will investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing.
This happens seemingly every year. Accusations are levied, NFL is required to investigate, poof, nothing will happen.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
The only time I remember something happening was when Miami lost their 1st round pick for tampering with Brady.
GregR
Footballguy
I can't find a definitive list. But looks like the Cardinals got hit with it last year though it was over hiring coach Jonathan Gannon who was the Eagles DC. The two sides eventually agreed to a settlement in which the Eagles traded the No. 94 pick in the 2023 draft and a 2024 fifth-round selection for the No. 66 pick in 2023.
Chiefs in 2016 were docked 2 picks and Reid and the GM fined for tampering with Jerry Maclin.
Both of those only got mentioned because they were both situations the Eagles were involved in, mentioned in article about this year's situation.
McBokonon
Footballguy
Well at least they got him and won those Super Bowls so it was totally worth it.
Patriots went after the Texans and BOB & Easterby for trying to pry Caserio away in 2019 prior to asking permission. Patriots dropped the charges after the Texans stopped the pursuit of Caserio as GM that year. They then went without a GM for a year (what a great idea!) and hired Caserio anyway the following year.
I think the Patriots also went after the Jets for Darrelle Revis a few years prior to that but it was more innocuous where one of the Jets brass said something like "we would love to have him!" when asked by a reporter. He got fined 100K and now like every coach and exec just says "I can't comment on another teams players" or whatever when asked by reporters now.
Forston is now a Dolphin, hopefully lessening the confusion.But Fortson is the new Fortson.Irv Smith is the new Fortson.Didn’t they have another dude who’s coming back off of injury? My brain wants to say “Fortson”Noah Gray is still the TE to own if something happens to Kelce.All he needs is some opportunity.
Kelce goes down and
(And yes I’m being hyperbolic I know it’s a longshot don’t take me too seriously here)
ETA Jody Fortson. I was not in a fever dream.
This could get confusing.
Tyreek seemed happy about it.
Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
Sam Howell + picks 102 and 179 to Seattle for picks 78 and 152 from Sleeperbot.
Only thing that surprises me on Seattle doing that move is I had thought they might want to try and get Penix, just so much obvious sense. But it was an issue that he's probably not worth a first, and they don't have a second but this would seem to totally take him out on him.
They will be granting him his release. They still might want to resign him but I just mentioned him in the Steelers thread as someone who makes all kinds of sense for them.
Zow
Footballguy
In case any of you ever wanted to know what it feels like to have a client testify and/or speak to law enforcement this is a wonderful non-legal example of what it's like...
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Pretty stoked about this one.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
2nd best spot behind the Chiefs (where I was hoping he would go) but I think he will do very well there.
Zow
Footballguy
Wow, not sure on the price, but I think this is a great add by the Bills.
Zow
Footballguy
So am I and only $9 million is guaranteed.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Zow
Footballguy
Yep, not upset so far. Just tough watching Green Bay and Detroit, and to a lesser extent Chicago, appear to get better.
ETA: I'm also opposed to massively overpaying for a high first. So, we'll see what happens. I'd prefer to sit on 1.11 and grab McCarthy if he's there and, if not, shore up D-line then maybe take a run at Fields.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
I am probably just wearing purple glasses here but:
Diontae Johnson combine
KJ Osborn combine
Maybe it the hit piece of Dionte Johnson drop highlights have influenced my thoughts
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He could be a target monster in CAR.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
I just wondering why Diontae Johnson is worth trading for when KJ Osborn is a free agent. Johnson is rumoured to be a diva and KJ Osborn has absolutely no locker room concerns.He could be a target monster in CAR.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
Keenan Allen to the Bears for a 4th round pick
Chargers must be taking a WR round 1 now you think?
Chargers must be taking a WR round 1 now you think?
massraider
Footballguy
I assume they are making this deal, because they have a deal.
Also, Houston dropping 20 spots in the 2nd may not be much of a drop, and now they get another 2nd. Smart I think
Dropping from 23 to the 10th pick in the 2nd for a future 2nd plus a bump from 7th round to 6th is pretty nice. Not sure what a trade value chart would say though those are very subjective.
Terpman22
Footballguy
You would think so, but Harbaugh is definitely going to pound the rock. OT isn't out of the question.
