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  1. Steelers4Life

    QB Justin Fields, PIT

    It's only funny if you haven't spent a lot of time watching Pickett play. Fields at least showed off great physical tools and flashed occasionally, accounted for 54 TDs (40 passing) in 40 games and showed improvement despite having nothing around him. I mean, they traded for Claypool to improve...
  2. Steelers4Life

    QB Justin Fields, PIT

    In the last 5 years: 2019 - Ben got hurt and the Steelers had to rely on Rudolph and Hodges 2020 - Ben came back somewhat diminished but still managed 33 TDs and 10 INTs with 3,800 yards passing. Ben couldn't move much and his deep ball suffered. 2021 - In Canada's 1st year and Ben's last...
  3. Steelers4Life

    2024 Philadelphia Eagles - In an effort to make up for last year’s collapse, Howie orchestrates an all-time pandering to the fans draft.

    No, it's not about him being the shiny new toy. New isn't always better, but the bar is so low with Pickett that in this case, it's a LOT better. It's about the fact that Fields has been a much better player in a much worse situation and has shown a lot more ability as both a passer and a runner...
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    2024 Philadelphia Eagles - In an effort to make up for last year’s collapse, Howie orchestrates an all-time pandering to the fans draft.

    It's a huge step in the right direction whether it works out or not. With Pickett, there's no upside. There's zero chance he's an NFL starting QB. With Fields, he's shown the arm and leg talent to be one, but he needs to develop in a better environment than Chicago. The biggest issue is that the...
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    2024 Philadelphia Eagles - In an effort to make up for last year’s collapse, Howie orchestrates an all-time pandering to the fans draft.

    Yes. I believe that, most of Pittsburgh believes that, and a very stable Pittsburgh front office believes that too. So does damn near everyone you can listen to in the media, anywhere. You don't have to agree. Wilson is a better short term player than Pickett. Fields has shown a TON more talent...
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    2024 Philadelphia Eagles - In an effort to make up for last year’s collapse, Howie orchestrates an all-time pandering to the fans draft.

    It's very simple. Even at this stage of his career, Russell Wilson is a more talented QB than Kenny Pickett is and probably ever will be. In an awful year, Wilson threw 26 TDs and 8 INTs in less than a full season. Pickett has thrown 13 TDs in his entire career so far. Wilson doesn't have to be...
  7. Steelers4Life

    2024 Philadelphia Eagles - In an effort to make up for last year’s collapse, Howie orchestrates an all-time pandering to the fans draft.

    It doesn't sound like you've watched nearly enough games to have an informed opinion. Lots of people complained about Matt Canada and for good reason. But the noise about Pickett was just as loud - he just had a following from his days at Pitt who really, REALLY wanted him to be something he's...
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    2024 Philadelphia Eagles - In an effort to make up for last year’s collapse, Howie orchestrates an all-time pandering to the fans draft.

    I understand 100% why Eagles fans want to be optimistic about Pickett. But if you haven't spent the last 2 to 3 years watching him, it's easy to blame Matt Canada. Fact is, Pickett himself was as much to blame as Canada was and it downright painful to watch. He's the exact opposite of someone Id...
  9. Steelers4Life

    QB Kenny Pickett, PHI

    I wouldn't say that at all. I think Mariota is more talented AND he's not a backup QB who thinks he's a starter.
  10. Steelers4Life

    2024 Philadelphia Eagles - In an effort to make up for last year’s collapse, Howie orchestrates an all-time pandering to the fans draft.

    The film shows that he locked onto his primary receiver like he did in his 1 good college year, only he wasn't throwing to a wide open Addison most of the time like he did at Pitt. It also shows that he often made incorrect reads and missed open receivers. He didn't use his legs when he could...
  11. Steelers4Life

    *** 2024 Pittsburgh Steelers: looking for CB and D-line depth in Day 3

    If you're a highly thought of offensive coordinator, do you choose to come to Pittsburgh if your initial success is tied to Kenny Pickett's arm?
  12. Steelers4Life

    Mike Tomlin...is it time to go?

    I'm repeating this from earlier in the thread. Ask yourself if Tomlin would be mentioned along with great coaches if he hadn't won so much in his first 4 years after taking over the team Cowher left behind. Would his track record over the past 13 years earn him a lot of anything? And before I...
  13. Steelers4Life

    *** 2024 Pittsburgh Steelers: looking for CB and D-line depth in Day 3

    Agree with most of this for sure. I just disagree with the idea that the standard hasn't been lowered. Maybe some fans still have those expectations, but a majority of the national media worships the ground Tomlin walks on and if the organization as a whole still had higher expectations, Tomlin...
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    *** 2024 Pittsburgh Steelers: looking for CB and D-line depth in Day 3

    That's to be expected. He's loose and a player's coach and he gives the players a lot of freedom. They love that. Also probably why his teams have had lots of drama, often lack discipline, and haven't had playoff success since the veteran core of talent that kep everyone in line started moving...
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    *** 2024 Pittsburgh Steelers: looking for CB and D-line depth in Day 3

    That 278 yard performance against the Bengals resulted in 16 points. Rudolph put up 34 against them a couple weeks later. He didn't just complete passes, he took shots downfield and stood in the pocket to allow things to develop more. If someone believes Pickett has a lot of room for...
  16. Steelers4Life

    *** 2024 Pittsburgh Steelers: looking for CB and D-line depth in Day 3

    I think that a good, imaginative OC who understands how to structure routes to get guys open and utilize speed would be able to get more out of him than the vanilla offense the Steelers ran all year.
  17. Steelers4Life

    Mike Tomlin...is it time to go?

    Why do people talk like he's been trying to win with backup quality QBs forever? For ****'s sake, he had Ben for 15 years, including from 2011 to 2018 BEFORE his elbow injury and in 2020 when he was still good enough to throw 33 TDs and 10 INTs. I personally don't think he was as bad in 2021 as...
  18. Steelers4Life

    Mike Tomlin...is it time to go?

    And why did they start Trubisky? Because Tomlin dismissed starting Rudolph after Trubisky laid an egg vs Arizona. Then he stuck with Trubisky as he lost to New England. And the cherry on top? He stuck with Mitch for the loss against Indianpolis too. The early wins were despite Pickett... the...
  19. Steelers4Life

    HC Mike McCarthy, DAL

    I'm not going to turn this (again) into a conversation about the Steelers and Tomlin. As has been said, there's a thread for that. Tomlin has lowered the bar for what success is in Pittsburgh over the last 13 seasons. McCarthy has 3 straight 12 win regular seasons but he's being talked about as...
  20. Steelers4Life

    HC Mike McCarthy, DAL

    They don't have to be top 3 or 4. But different organizations have different standards based on history and talent. If a franchise considers it a win to be solid or good in the regular season but never win in the postseason, certain coaches should stick to those franchises and not hold...
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