EVILGRIN'S BOLD & ZESTY 1ST ROUND MOCK ! (1 Viewer)

[Bob Sacamano]

Thanks to all for the kind words - especially you, Sacamano.

Who loves ya, baby?

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

For the record, this 1st round mock reflects what I think the teams WILL do, not what I think they SHOULD do.

26 – Jacksonville – Calais Campbell, DE, Miami

“Now don’t you forget this. Why I should stick my neck out for you is far beyond my capacity.” – C-3PO

This pick would be a calculated risk. Campbell had a lousy season for an underachieving Miami team, and many have questioned his strength and his technique. However, this is a point in the round where a team like Jacksonville can afford to take a big swing, as Campbell clearly has upside. He has rare size, versatility, and ability to disrupt in the backfield. If there’s a spot in the NFL where he can be brought along, it will be in Jacksonville, where DelRio will have him on the weights immediately, and the players showing him the ropes are among the best in the business.

EG,I think you hit it spot on with your analysis here. I can see this playing out just like this (although I'm hoping for a different scenerio).

 

[Evilgrin 72]

For the record, this 1st round mock reflects what I think the teams WILL do, not what I think they SHOULD do.

26 – Jacksonville – Calais Campbell, DE, Miami

“Now don’t you forget this. Why I should stick my neck out for you is far beyond my capacity.” – C-3PO

This pick would be a calculated risk. Campbell had a lousy season for an underachieving Miami team, and many have questioned his strength and his technique. However, this is a point in the round where a team like Jacksonville can afford to take a big swing, as Campbell clearly has upside. He has rare size, versatility, and ability to disrupt in the backfield. If there’s a spot in the NFL where he can be brought along, it will be in Jacksonville, where DelRio will have him on the weights immediately, and the players showing him the ropes are among the best in the business.

EG,I think you hit it spot on with your analysis here. I can see this playing out just like this (although I'm hoping for a different scenerio).

Who would you like to see in the teal and black? God, that sounds bad. Teal and football should never go together.

 

[PatrickT]

Excellent. I love the Falcon picks, trades AND quotes.

 

[Wu-banger]

EG, loved the Star Wars tie in stuff. Nice humor! I absolutely hate the Cowboy picks. If Dallas takes Felix and Desean in round 1, I'll be furious with Jerry. 1) Dallas has consistently said that Barber fits the mold of backs they want. A guy who can run inside, outside, catch, and BLOCK. Romo is the most important guy on that offense. They don't want to put a 205 lb scat back who will get run over by a blitzing LB in the backfield. IF they take a RB in round 1, it will be Stewart or Mendenhall. THose are the guys with the diverse skills that they want. Further, those are the guys that carry the load if Barber gets hurt. 2) There are a lot of guys similar to Felix that can be had later. Why burn a 1st rounder on a guy when generally equal talent can be had in the 2nd or 3rd?3) Desean Jackson. Yes, he has elite speed and quicks. So does Roscoe Parrish. Both those guys are the same size and weight. Roscoe is an ok slot guy. But he cant go over the middle, and has tons of trouble getting off jams. WHy would you spend a 1st on very similar player?4) Dallas has consistently stated they won't take a 1st roudn receiver. They are in the win-now mode. Can Jackson do anything to help them this season other than return punts?5) Even with a Pac trade, you'd have Newman, Henry, and then guys who were on a practice squad last year. Newman and Henry are both over 30. Henry hasnt made it through a season healthy since in Dallas. Pac is one bad temptation to 1 of Dallas' 1,456,205 strip clubs away from a lifetime ban. You want a super bowl contender to have that as the first 3 CBs? Almost guaranteeing a practice squad guy will see prime time action. Does that make sense to you?6) Think there will be a material drop off in CB talent between 28 and 61? I sure as heck do. IF Dallas leaves roudn 1 without a CB, I'll be shocked. Its the position that cost them the most games last year. They have no depth, even with Pac. And 2 of the 3 top guys are highly questionable to make it through the season. 2 of the 3 top guys will be at least 30. Dallas goes CB in round 1. Probably at 28 because the 1st roudn graded CBs are off the board. But they get a 2nd round graded guy there. Wait to 61, and you're into the 3rd round graded guys. At 22, they take someone they have rated with a 1st grade. Might be a safety, or a RB, or OLine. Dunno. But doubt its a CB, and I doubt its Felix.

This sums up exactly what I was thinking.... I could live with the Jackson pick , but taking Felix at 22 when Stewart is on board is a mistake.Dallas is a team that could ease Stewart into the line-up while he recovers fully from the toe injury....or at least take the BPA , and I highly doubt that it would be Felix Jones @22

 

[Evilgrin 72]

EG, loved the Star Wars tie in stuff. Nice humor!

I absolutely hate the Cowboy picks. If Dallas takes Felix and Desean in round 1, I'll be furious with Jerry.

1) Dallas has consistently said that Barber fits the mold of backs they want. A guy who can run inside, outside, catch, and BLOCK. Romo is the most important guy on that offense. They don't want to put a 205 lb scat back who will get run over by a blitzing LB in the backfield. IF they take a RB in round 1, it will be Stewart or Mendenhall. THose are the guys with the diverse skills that they want. Further, those are the guys that carry the load if Barber gets hurt.

2) There are a lot of guys similar to Felix that can be had later. Why burn a 1st rounder on a guy when generally equal talent can be had in the 2nd or 3rd?

3) Desean Jackson. Yes, he has elite speed and quicks. So does Roscoe Parrish. Both those guys are the same size and weight. Roscoe is an ok slot guy. But he cant go over the middle, and has tons of trouble getting off jams. WHy would you spend a 1st on very similar player?

4) Dallas has consistently stated they won't take a 1st roudn receiver. They are in the win-now mode. Can Jackson do anything to help them this season other than return punts?

5) Even with a Pac trade, you'd have Newman, Henry, and then guys who were on a practice squad last year. Newman and Henry are both over 30. Henry hasnt made it through a season healthy since in Dallas. Pac is one bad temptation to 1 of Dallas' 1,456,205 strip clubs away from a lifetime ban. You want a super bowl contender to have that as the first 3 CBs? Almost guaranteeing a practice squad guy will see prime time action. Does that make sense to you?

6) Think there will be a material drop off in CB talent between 28 and 61? I sure as heck do.

IF Dallas leaves roudn 1 without a CB, I'll be shocked. Its the position that cost them the most games last year. They have no depth, even with Pac. And 2 of the 3 top guys are highly questionable to make it through the season. 2 of the 3 top guys will be at least 30.

Dallas goes CB in round 1. Probably at 28 because the 1st roudn graded CBs are off the board. But they get a 2nd round graded guy there. Wait to 61, and you're into the 3rd round graded guys. At 22, they take someone they have rated with a 1st grade. Might be a safety, or a RB, or OLine. Dunno. But doubt its a CB, and I doubt its Felix.

This sums up exactly what I was thinking.... I could live with the Jackson pick , but taking Felix at 22 when Stewart is on board is a mistake.

Dallas is a team that could ease Stewart into the line-up while he recovers fully from the toe injury....

or at least take the BPA , and I highly doubt that it would be Felix Jones @22

From what I've heard, Jones is the #2 RB behind McFadden on more than one team's board (I've heard repeated rumors that he could go in the top 15.) I don't necessarily subscribe to that, but just letting you know that many NFL honchos are very high on him.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Great stuff here.I agree with you 100% that OL and Dl are the bigger needs. When I did the mock, I tried to predict what the team would do rather than what I thought they would do - as a disclaimer. When I looked at the Skins, I assumed that Snyder is going to be playing a more integral role in personnel decisions. I think he took a backseat the last few years in deference to a HOF coach, but now that he has his boy in Zorn at the controls, I imagine he'll be a lot more vocal. They strike me as a team that's going to want to grab an impact player, and with the questions surrounding Cherilus' ability to play LT and Balmer's being a one-year wonder, I thought they might choose to address those positions in round 2 (Collins, Nicks, Greco, Laws, Moore, Jones, etc..) and get a big WR here. Both Sweed and Hardy are likely to be gone before the Skins' next pick, and while a guy like Doucet (strong, but not big) might do, I think Snyder will be looking to add a bonafide #1 receiver. He's been trying to do so for years, with no success, and I think this could be the year they decide to hell with it, and take a WR in round 1. No idea if it will shake out this way, but that was my thought process in making this selection.

Thanks EG. I appreciate the insight on your decision.Pre-Gibbs, or even early-Gibbs, I may have agreed with you on how much Dannyboy gets his fingers in the mix. But he's been on record ever since Gibbs left about how much he's learned from Gibbs, how much he's learned from past mistakes and how much he thinks he's matured as an owner (take that however you want).So far, I believe him. One, because of what I feel I know about Gibbs, and two, because of how the 'Skins have handled free agency this year. 5 years ago Snyder would have almost certainly made some kind of move to bring in a big name, impact WR already. Either doing whatever it took to trade for Chad Johnson (although the CJ trade talks still aren't dead), or to entice Moss away from the Pats, or to sign another FA like Javon Walker or Stallworth with gobs of SB money. But they've done noting of the sort, so I'm inclined to believe that Cerrato, Zorn, Blache, et al have a greater influence on the final say of player acquisition than coaches and FO staff did pre-Gibbs.But, with so much being different this off season, really only time will tell how that pick plays out. As a fan, I'd much rather see them bolster the OL or DL. But if it ends up being WR, I'll fume for a bit, and then get on with hoping that Zorn can turn Campbell/rookie WR into the next all-time great QB/WR combo.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

For the record, this 1st round mock reflects what I think the teams WILL do, not what I think they SHOULD do.

26 – Jacksonville – Calais Campbell, DE, Miami

“Now don’t you forget this. Why I should stick my neck out for you is far beyond my capacity.” – C-3PO

This pick would be a calculated risk. Campbell had a lousy season for an underachieving Miami team, and many have questioned his strength and his technique. However, this is a point in the round where a team like Jacksonville can afford to take a big swing, as Campbell clearly has upside. He has rare size, versatility, and ability to disrupt in the backfield. If there’s a spot in the NFL where he can be brought along, it will be in Jacksonville, where DelRio will have him on the weights immediately, and the players showing him the ropes are among the best in the business.

EG,I think you hit it spot on with your analysis here. I can see this playing out just like this (although I'm hoping for a different scenerio).

Who would you like to see in the teal and black? God, that sounds bad. Teal and football should never go together.

I think that if they are targeting a DE (which is the general thought), I like Groves at 26 or move back and then take Campbell.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

For the record, this 1st round mock reflects what I think the teams WILL do, not what I think they SHOULD do.

26 – Jacksonville – Calais Campbell, DE, Miami

“Now don’t you forget this. Why I should stick my neck out for you is far beyond my capacity.” – C-3PO

This pick would be a calculated risk. Campbell had a lousy season for an underachieving Miami team, and many have questioned his strength and his technique. However, this is a point in the round where a team like Jacksonville can afford to take a big swing, as Campbell clearly has upside. He has rare size, versatility, and ability to disrupt in the backfield. If there’s a spot in the NFL where he can be brought along, it will be in Jacksonville, where DelRio will have him on the weights immediately, and the players showing him the ropes are among the best in the business.

EG,I think you hit it spot on with your analysis here. I can see this playing out just like this (although I'm hoping for a different scenerio).

Who would you like to see in the teal and black? God, that sounds bad. Teal and football should never go together.

I think that if they are targeting a DE (which is the general thought), I like Groves at 26 or move back and then take Campbell.

I prefer Groves to Campbell, but didn't project him here because IIRC, Jacksonville tends to play bigger ends (6'4-6'5, 275-300) whereas Groves, IMO, is a better fit at 3-4 OLB where he can play around 250-260.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

For the record, this 1st round mock reflects what I think the teams WILL do, not what I think they SHOULD do.

26 – Jacksonville – Calais Campbell, DE, Miami

“Now don’t you forget this. Why I should stick my neck out for you is far beyond my capacity.” – C-3PO

This pick would be a calculated risk. Campbell had a lousy season for an underachieving Miami team, and many have questioned his strength and his technique. However, this is a point in the round where a team like Jacksonville can afford to take a big swing, as Campbell clearly has upside. He has rare size, versatility, and ability to disrupt in the backfield. If there’s a spot in the NFL where he can be brought along, it will be in Jacksonville, where DelRio will have him on the weights immediately, and the players showing him the ropes are among the best in the business.

EG,I think you hit it spot on with your analysis here. I can see this playing out just like this (although I'm hoping for a different scenerio).

Who would you like to see in the teal and black? God, that sounds bad. Teal and football should never go together.

I think that if they are targeting a DE (which is the general thought), I like Groves at 26 or move back and then take Campbell.

I prefer Groves to Campbell, but didn't project him here because IIRC, Jacksonville tends to play bigger ends (6'4-6'5, 275-300) whereas Groves, IMO, is a better fit at 3-4 OLB where he can play around 250-260.

For the most part I agree, but the Jags have drafted "smaller" pass rushing specialists in recent drafts- although these are in later rounds.

 

[Abraham]

24 – Tennessee – Kentwan Balmer, DT, North Carolina“One thing’s for sure.. we’re all gonna be a lot thinner” – Han SoloTennessee’s defensive line is the heart and soul of this team, and they took several offseason personnel hits, making Balmer a terrific pick here. Many are projecting a wideout, but with Vince Young’s one-time battery mate off the board here, I think Balmer becomes an easy choice. He should start from day 1 alongside Haynesworth and the value at WR in this draft resides in round 2 anyway, so the Titans can look there to add a threat on the flank.

I'm coming around to this line of thinking. Kearse / Vanden Bosch / Haynesworth / Balmer would be a VERY effective DLine, which keys everything else for the team.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

EG, loved the Star Wars tie in stuff. Nice humor!

I absolutely hate the Cowboy picks. If Dallas takes Felix and Desean in round 1, I'll be furious with Jerry.

1) Dallas has consistently said that Barber fits the mold of backs they want. A guy who can run inside, outside, catch, and BLOCK. Romo is the most important guy on that offense. They don't want to put a 205 lb scat back who will get run over by a blitzing LB in the backfield. IF they take a RB in round 1, it will be Stewart or Mendenhall. THose are the guys with the diverse skills that they want. Further, those are the guys that carry the load if Barber gets hurt.

2) There are a lot of guys similar to Felix that can be had later. Why burn a 1st rounder on a guy when generally equal talent can be had in the 2nd or 3rd?

At 22, they take someone they have rated with a 1st grade. Might be a safety, or a RB, or OLine. Dunno. But doubt its a CB, and I doubt its Felix.

This sums up exactly what I was thinking.... I could live with the Jackson pick , but taking Felix at 22 when Stewart is on board is a mistake.

Dallas is a team that could ease Stewart into the line-up while he recovers fully from the toe injury....

or at least take the BPA , and I highly doubt that it would be Felix Jones @22

FWIW (and some think not much), here's Kiper from his chat going on right now...Jordan (Fayetteville, AR): Mel, whats the current status on Felix Jones? i'm hearing anything between 14th pick and 28th.

Mel Kiper: I think 16-22 is where he goes. I can see Arizona at 16 or Dallas at 22 taking him. I think he would be a great compliment to Marion Barber in Dallas.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

24 – Tennessee – Kentwan Balmer, DT, North Carolina“One thing’s for sure.. we’re all gonna be a lot thinner” – Han SoloTennessee’s defensive line is the heart and soul of this team, and they took several offseason personnel hits, making Balmer a terrific pick here. Many are projecting a wideout, but with Vince Young’s one-time battery mate off the board here, I think Balmer becomes an easy choice. He should start from day 1 alongside Haynesworth and the value at WR in this draft resides in round 2 anyway, so the Titans can look there to add a threat on the flank.

I'm coming around to this line of thinking. Kearse / Vanden Bosch / Haynesworth / Balmer would be a VERY effective DLine, which keys everything else for the team.

That was actually one of the easier picks to make for me. I've been on D-line for Tennessee since free agency started - Balmer would be a great choice for them if the Steelers don't take him a pick before (which could happen if Cherilus, Albert, Otah, Clady, and Williams are all gone.)

 

[Evilgrin 72]

For the record, this 1st round mock reflects what I think the teams WILL do, not what I think they SHOULD do.

26 – Jacksonville – Calais Campbell, DE, Miami

“Now don’t you forget this. Why I should stick my neck out for you is far beyond my capacity.” – C-3PO

This pick would be a calculated risk. Campbell had a lousy season for an underachieving Miami team, and many have questioned his strength and his technique. However, this is a point in the round where a team like Jacksonville can afford to take a big swing, as Campbell clearly has upside. He has rare size, versatility, and ability to disrupt in the backfield. If there’s a spot in the NFL where he can be brought along, it will be in Jacksonville, where DelRio will have him on the weights immediately, and the players showing him the ropes are among the best in the business.

EG,I think you hit it spot on with your analysis here. I can see this playing out just like this (although I'm hoping for a different scenerio).

Who would you like to see in the teal and black? God, that sounds bad. Teal and football should never go together.

I think that if they are targeting a DE (which is the general thought), I like Groves at 26 or move back and then take Campbell.

I prefer Groves to Campbell, but didn't project him here because IIRC, Jacksonville tends to play bigger ends (6'4-6'5, 275-300) whereas Groves, IMO, is a better fit at 3-4 OLB where he can play around 250-260.

For the most part I agree, but the Jags have drafted "smaller" pass rushing specialists in recent drafts- although these are in later rounds.

Too funny, here's the very next question after the Felix Jones question in Kiper's chat :Greg (Iowa): Love your work Mel! Do you think the 49ers would be reaching if they took Groves with their late 1st round pick? Thanks!

Mel Kiper: A little bit. He is more of a mid to late second round guy. Another guy who could be interesting for them is LB Cliff Avril from Purdue, who has really risen in the last few weeks.

 

[Knight who says Ni]

Matt Ryan's was the best:

“Good against remotes is one thing. Good against the living? That’s something else.”

Loved it all

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Matt Ryan's was the best: “Good against remotes is one thing. Good against the living? That’s something else.” Loved it all

Thanks, man.

 

[Bob Magaw]

bravo to the chef, EG...

i'll have whatever goes good with a gulden drak beverage...

if MIA takes j. long, rams will have tough decision between c. long & dorsey... dorsey may be the more special player & impactful at next level...

it will also be interesting to see what ATL does if j. long & dorsey are off the board already by 1.3 (if they aren't sold on matt ryan... take mcfadden & have a thunder & lightning & thunder & lightning backfield... just kidding... )...

i'm getting more primed for the draft than the upcoming underground unrated video of jabba the hut & pincess leia...

* i'm seeing mcfadden or gholston going to OAK so much it is starting to make me think it won't happen... both picks coulf fit there... with brandon albert surging all the way to possibly KC at 1.5 being his ceiling, his versatility to play every position but center on the OL might make him not a huge reach one pick higher? they have already upgraded the D, & a stud OL could help get more out of the new pieces to the puzzle on offense (russell, fargas as starter & javon walker)?

IF OAK takes gholston & jets take ryan, mcfadden could tumble a bit... if ellis was off the board, it would be interesting if CIN would stop his fall, with rudi looking a bit shopworn of late...

DAL is another team with jones going to them nearly unanimously (again, it does fit an obvious need), which probably means it doesn't happen... CC has championed stewart pick there (but doesn't think he will be there)... i think if they want jones he might be there with second 1st rounder... if a WR like devin thomas or CB like DRC or jenkins were to drop there, they might go in that direction first...

 

[Evilgrin 72]

bravo to the chef, EG...

i'll have whatever goes good with a gulden drak beverage...

if MIA takes j. long, rams will have tough decision between c. long & dorsey... dorsey may be the more special player & impactful at next level...

it will also be interesting to see what ATL does if j. long & dorsey are off the board already by 1.3 (if they aren't sold on matt ryan... take mcfadden & have a thunder & lightning & thunder & lightning backfield... just kidding... )...

i'm getting more primed for the draft than the upcoming underground unrated video of jabba the hut & pincess leia...

I think it would be Ryan or Chris Long if Dorsey and J. Long are both gone. at bolded portion.

Damn it, Bob - why'd you have to mention Gulden Draak? Every time you do that, I end up at the beer store that day and leave $40-50 poorer.

 

[Bob Magaw]

reposted from edit above...

i'm seeing mcfadden or gholston going to OAK so much it is starting to make me think it won't happen... both picks coulf fit there... with brandon albert surging all the way to possibly KC at 1.5 being his ceiling, his versatility to play every position but center on the OL might make him not a huge reach one pick higher? they have already upgraded the D, & a stud OL could help get more out of the new pieces to the puzzle on offense (russell, fargas as starter & javon walker)?

IF OAK takes gholston & jets take ryan, mcfadden could tumble a bit... if ellis was off the board, it would be interesting if CIN CIN would stop his fall, with rudi looking a bit shopworn of late...

DAL is another team with jones going to them nearly unanimously (again, it does fit an obvious need), which probably means it doesn't happen... CC has championed stewart pick there (but doesn't think he will be there)... i think if they want jones he might be there with second 1st rounder... if a WR like devin thomas or CB like DRC or jenkins were to drop there, they might go in that direction first...

* an amount of gulden drak smaller than bill cowher's chin could stun a donkey...

 

[Evilgrin 72]

reposted from edit above...

i'm seeing mcfadden or gholston going to OAK so much it is starting to make me think it won't happen... both picks coulf fit there... with brandon albert surging all the way to possibly KC at 1.5 being his ceiling, his versatility to play every position but center on the OL might make him not a huge reach one pick higher? they have already upgraded the D, & a stud OL could help get more out of the new pieces to the puzzle on offense (russell, fargas as starter & javon walker)?

IF OAK takes gholston & jets take ryan, mcfadden could tumble a bit... if ellis was off the board, it would be interesting if CIN CIN would stop his fall, with rudi looking a bit shopworn of late...

DAL is another team with jones going to them nearly unanimously (again, it does fit an obvious need), which probably means it doesn't happen... CC has championed stewart pick there (but doesn't think he will be there)... i think if they want jones he might be there with second 1st rounder... if a WR like devin thomas or CB like DRC or jenkins were to drop there, they might go in that direction first...

* an amount of gulden drak smaller than bill cowher's chin could stun a donkey...

I think Albert's value has been inflated by the fact that teams now think he can convert to a LT, but he's a guard, and will probably be best at that spot. He'll be a terrific pulling guard, which means he'd be an ideal fit in Pittsburgh - which looked likely a while ago, now... not so much.I think Gholston goes to the Raiders, who never saw a freakish athlete they didn't like. I don't think they'll take McFadden - I think they're happy with Fargas/Bush as their duo back there. I think if McFadden fell to #9 and Ellis was gone, Cincy would break the land-speed record getting the McFadden pick to the podium. They might go so fast, they'd reverse the rotation of the Earth.

I think Jerry Jones would push Felix Jones over Stewart, and not only because of the Arkansas thing. I know CC likes Stewart better (and so do I) but I think Dallas wants a shifty guy who can catch out of the backfield and make plays to complement Barber, and that's Jones. I think if Devin Thomas and maybe Sweed were there at #22, they'd go there first and hope San Diego didn't take Jones at #26 to backup LT. If Cromartie or Jenkins were there at #22 in my mock, Dallas probably would have gone that way - possibly Talib as well.

 

[nerangers]

My Mock had the Broncos and the Patriots as trading partners as well...I think someone will move up to get Ellis if he is there at the 7th pick...The Saints also could, but I had heard they cancelled their visit with him.

Not so sure the Ravens move up for Ryan though...

I could see someone moving back into the first round trading with the Chargers...I think that is the pick Brian Brohm will go at...and to Atlanta!

 

[Evilgrin 72]

My Mock had the Broncos and the Patriots as trading partners as well...I think someone will move up to get Ellis if he is there at the 7th pick...The Saints also could, but I had heard they cancelled their visit with him.Not so sure the Ravens move up for Ryan though...I could see someone moving back into the first round trading with the Chargers...I think that is the pick Brian Brohm will go at...and to Atlanta!

I can very easily see the Chargers trading down with Atlanta - I had Atlanta trading to #30 because the teams in the 23-29 range have no QB needs, but if the Falcons want to ensure they get Brohm, they made trade up higher to avoid someone else swooping in and taking him. I can see Pittsburgh at #23 as a possible trading partner, along with Jacksonville and San Diego.I'm glad someone else had a DEN/NE swap, because I hadn't seen that trade before, but it makes an awful lot of sense to me.